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welcome to the lower show we'll get the real headlines with none of the mercy rule out of washington d.c. now it's not we're going to talk about the case of troy davis whose last ditch try for clemency was denied today by the georgia board of pardons so tomorrow a man whose guilt is still in question a lot of them likely be executed then i don't blame a crisis in america has caused the underground economy to grow and what is the underground economy anyway sarah jaffe is going to explain it for us and it looks like the u.s. to shopping around for someone to build a massive new prison for the men up ghana's down and all this time i thought we're broke and we're going to have all of that morphy tonight including
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a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to me. well they have made three media continue to turn into entertainment tonight and yeah i know i called them out for doing the exact same thing last friday when they were reporting on countdown of the emmys and super commenters actually trying to defend them because they said it's friday apparently people want to know which movies that award shows they should watch over the weekend though i still think that if they want to know what to watch they should go to t.v. guide go to entertainment tonight watch access hollywood or any of the other names of the multitude of shows dedicated to entertainment news we still need someone else there to report on real news people come on so anyway today on this tuesday i guess of the mainstream media was pretending that it was friday. well ashton kutcher gets the role but charlie sheen gets the pay day in two and a half men the studio is finalizing a settlement deal that would pay sheen twenty five million dollars sheen was fired
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last march by warner brothers which produces the series that's what happens when people are. negative and it brings in a plea positive response i want to thank all the viewers that you never know i don't hate selling. yeah you know i really get enough of nancy grace in her real job her day job so please just spare me with this one will you i beg you anyway while the mainstream media's been spending endless hours having producers cut clips from last night's t.v. shows finding guests wasting air time talking about t.v. land let's remember something that's going on in our very real world right now that's occupy wall street the protests it's been taking place since saturday september seventeenth now originally they hope the twenty thousand people which show up to occupy the financial district in new york campout stay until bankers heard that people in america had had enough of their corrupt actions their greed is not going by a notice to all the power it keeps being a taking away from the many the many being those forty six million people living in
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poverty the fifteen million people that are unemployed the shrinking middle class hell just about all one percent of us but the one percent those are the few the hold the power and the hold the wealth in washington and around the world so on saturday an estimated two thousand people ended up coming out of the mainstream media they didn't they didn't know they didn't know reporting on it whatsoever yeah we're four days in there are about one hundred fifty to two hundred protesters who still remain there cantons a cottage park which they have the liberty plaza and at this point at least five people have been arrested some for having a piece of tarp which the police consider the tent another having a gold horn and some for wearing the guy fawkes masks using some antiquated law about no more than two masked people gathering except during a masquerade party or a similar entertainment and i bet you they don't use that one against the kiddies on holloway and all the protesters continue to say that they're going to be nonviolent some say the police are getting too rough here's a video of some of those arrests shaking place.
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i. wish i could. so despite all of that happening the mainstream media has continued to ignore the story no reporters on the ground there i guess they're all on a red carpet somewhere prepping for an awards show you know the only place i've ever even seen this mentioned so far was on the rachel maddow show last night when she had michael moore on as a guest but was because more broadly that himself not because rachel asked because he was also pinpointing the ridiculous nature of the media and what they choose to ignore from the tar sands protests and from the white house to the occupy wall street protest that's going on right now meanwhile c.n.n.
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just teamed up with the tea party to do a presidential debate and you remember how the mainstream media covered every single tea party protests the glitz the glamour was involved there you almost could have been fooled by mistaking it for some celebrity event and that's a huge part of the problem that's a huge reason why wall street is getting away with crimes is because the mainstream media doesn't pay any attention to them they don't call out our congress or this administration on a daily basis or one of the biggest crimes of the century so far when that's going on punished and since they're too lazy to do it well why would they bother covering a protest where someone else wants to see that's what they choose to miss. all the sign all hope may be lost for sure davis said to be executed by lethal injection at seven pm tomorrow night in the state of georgia davis was convicted of
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murdering an off duty police officer but many questions around the case including the lack of any physical evidence and recanted statements by seven of the nine original witnesses and a last ditch effort davis' legal team appealed to the georgia board of pardons and paroles yesterday seeking clemency but this morning a decision by the five member board was announced request for clemency tonight they've since cases one that finally got the mainstream media's attention in the last week or so as hundreds of activists have been protesting in georgia sending her to. shin's and u.s. lawmakers have been speaking out but it's going to it's been a doubt for years this is already davis' fourth execution date and over the past two decades as cases in the exceptional a number of appeals and hearings including a rare step by the supreme court in two thousand and ten which didn't review his case for granted another hearing the world leaders and government officials have also drawn attention this is well from the pope and president jimmy carter to former f.b.i. director william sessions but if this man is executed tomorrow whose guilt is still in doubt one of the history books and it's
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a joining me to discuss it is radley balko senior writer and investigative reporter for the huffington post thanks so much for joining us tonight and first i guess if you could clarify some things as to whether this really was the last hope for troy davis because i think a lot of people are confused out there some are asking why president obama doesn't grant him clemency or why it doesn't come from the governor of georgia himself but as far as i'm concerned those two people they can't step in here could the supreme court do something. i mean i can always step in i guess i think the problem is that most of the issues they could be litigated in davis' case have been he's made these challenges and he's lost so. it seems really really unlikely that the supreme court will intervene and yet president obama came into being because this is a state case and the governor of georgia can intervene because you actually has no power in georgia although. this clemency board which incidentally the five members the clemency board all have one exception for the five of law enforcement
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backgrounds the first was a former top on crime republican legislator so you know davis really didn't have a chance in order to really kind of stuck in a clumsy foreign films. solely with people that kind of background really having won the first place let's not forget a supreme court actually did state two executions in the state of texas recently and right we had a case of going back and just today there was one more for cleaver foster so i guess things are always possible but we're not sure here but you know another thing happened today which is two lawmakers from the state of georgia one senator and one representative they're now asking those who work in the prison to strike or to hold the sick out so basically they have nothing but just the bare bones minimum amount of employees there to morrow have we ever seen anything like that down the fore. not that i know it seems sort of unlikely i mean that they're going to get it even if you know a couple people decided to do that i doubt they could get enough to actually not be
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able to carry forward with the execution but i mean i think there is a you know a real kind of central point to be made here and. i mean. the people pushing for it is execution are right i mean he has exhausted all fields and he's been given a lot of it. but the fact that you know he is exhausted all of the checks and balances that our system affords somebody aleutian and there's still this much doubt about it and still you know twenty four hours to execution i think is a pretty good damning indictment of the system and i think we have a penalty that's. fine. now you make a really good point there too and especially you know if you think of the fact that this latest trial hearing the judges would say that there isn't there is so much doubt surrounding the fact that seven of the nine witnesses have decided to recant their statement so there's too much doubt surrounding it to prove this man's innocence but somehow there's there's not enough doubt to still continue to prove
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his guilt and to send him to the execution chamber and that just seems so that courts if you ask me. well i mean what happens is during your trial. where you know beyond a reasonable doubt what your. tables you know then turn and you have a very very high hurdle to hear to get a new case and back to basically have to prove that you found a new evidence that wasn't available at the time of your trial and if the jury had heard it they probably would have believed that you were innocent that's a really really high burden and it needs to be that way otherwise you know people constantly getting you know just it's just this is a new sort of thrown away problem is that a case like this i mean when there are inherent flaws in the system that allowed bad evidence to get in as it did in this case you know i would assess the money for centuries that there are here problems with eyewitness testimony and then it's. best to overstate it in personal trials so when you know that there are fundamental problems of how the evidence got into the trial the first place and i think you
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need to lower that standard you know and be more willing to entertain claims like this i mean you know to be in a testing that there are five thousand since them and those flaws exist even in cases where you know d.n.a. wasn't part of the case. and i need to assume that you know the problem is that i when this testimony a prosecutor was conduct all that are only you know present in d.n.a. cases the president and i think that d.n.a. testing should trouble can arise and make it more willing to you know to go back and look at some of these other cases with a doesn't really play a role. but do you think that americans are willing to go back i mean i'm just wondering if you think we're seeing some kind of a trend in terms of that changing when it comes to capital punishment or quite the opposite it's becoming more divisive because you have some states out there they're blocking the death penalty and at the same time now we have presidential candidates that are getting cheered by the crowds when there are incredibly high record
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executions record is mentioned yet what i mean i think some of our more thoughtful pundits and leaders i mean i think we can certainly sense a change in their opinions but i think it's coming much more skeptical unfortunately i think for most politicians and people general public and supporters is still strong and part of the reason i think is is. our law enforcement officials and politicians have really kind of taken me. the uncomfortable miss out of capital punishment you know heard a comedian once say once joke about the fact that they go to swab the in the condemns arm with alcohol before they get the lethal injection which sort of those make the sense right there that they are not afraid of infection obviously. but i think the point there is that we've turned you know exploded as a state killing into basically what looks like a medical procedure. and we've really been there all these rituals sort of involved with it and you know the last two women who were up for execution both of whom you
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know were almost certainly guilty were both been given clemency and i think because the governor's in those states embassy in virginia knew that it's sort of unseemly it's uncomfortable to hear of a woman being executed so i think one reason why support a state so strong is that the politicians are really taking a lot of pride in this thing out of capital punishment really sort of. the public. execution should be televised. if the government's going to do this in our name we should you know we should watch what's going on with what happens. well you know at the same time though and i think you know a good point there that we're so far removed from these executions these days but at the same time a lot of it really is emotionally charged not something that the parole board mentioned here they say we know this is very emotionally charged case because you see so many people protesting it's very emotional for the family of the officer that was killed they want some kind of justice too but how do you remove some of
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that emotion maybe maybe that is a better idea and make it more rational and tell people that you know this is costing so much money we can't afford it anymore. well i mean we're emotional because there are doubts about the guys you know i mean you know you know every every execution obviously is going to have some emotion around in a lot of passions but i mean this case in particular stirred a lot of people up because they don't like the idea that we're i mean you know bob barr the former congressman from georgia is very pro-gun you still pro-gun going to the state has been very passionate about that about trying to stop this execution because there's doubt here i mean and i think there's reason for passion emotion when there's about to kill someone when there's doubt about it we'll. of course we need to be rational in considering evidence but you know in this case again we have you know he's he was convicted on i when this testimony which you have lots of problems and you're overstating things and then seven of the nine i would this is a sense we can't and you know the judge the federal judge who reviewed the evidence
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and the hearing said you know that well if i understand some of these flaws this is even later that they have recanted so it's even less reliable but some of those were given so they were actually pressured by police the first time around and that's something that you know that's a very different sort of memory than memories with on for somebody right so there are. some of the evidence rationally but certainly. when the government's about to do something that you don't want are about they want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and unless something does happen here and the supreme court steps and trade davis will be executed tomorrow night thanks. so i mean. as still ahead tonight a glimmer of hope for the gay u.s. servicemen and women stationed around the world that's later on tonight as you know about the one trillion dollars underground economy here in the u.s. how many americans are trying to stay afloat during the economic crisis are you looking to that topic interested.
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into american military mechanisms to do the work to bring justice or accountability . i have to go. right to know what my government would want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else if you're see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't. charge welcomes a big picture say . those numbers given
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that we had an apartheid regime right here in the lead. i think iraq is evil and want to well. we never government says they're going to keep him safe get ready because you give them their freedom. for. fear. for.
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last week in first told you about an f.b.i. training handbook leaked by a whistleblower when they expose hateful and very islamophobia training materials being used to teach f.b.i. counterterrorism agents now wired's danger room wired danger room spencer ackerman published excerpts from a counterterrorism course that specifically called mohammad a cult leader and labeled all muslims even those considered mainstream a threat to america as word quickly spread about the program that the i moved into damage control mode declaring the elective counterterrorism class a one time affair which ended this april however turns out about claims to be false because danger room is now uncovered new video displaying the man who taught that course william god or giving a similar type of lecture in new york city and that event took place in june of
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this year months after the f.b.i. said the man it stopped raining f.b.i. agents now is a lecture sponsored by public private partnership for law enforcement officials and the f.b.i. has scrambled to remove gotham's entire lecture but there is one thirty minute segment that's been salvaged i read it on wired and there's been a few changes to gaza or of course for starters he states that he is lecturing as a private citizen and his power point presentation he uses his military e-mail address rather than the one from the f.b.i. it also appears as if rhetoric has also changed a bit since the course he taught in quantico back in april beginning of the lecture he specifically states that he's talking about islam as a government and as an ideology he specifically says under the first amendment that he won't be discussing as long as religion. the i am who. i am. the e.u.
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. the e.u. . the e.u. . now despite the disclaimer which he uses to cover his ass his general feelings towards muslims are still the same the author of explained that it's pointless to target just one group of radicals like hamas or all qaeda and said he suggested the best way to protect the country is to go after islam itself i was speaking of course from a religion it standpoint he's also got a loophole to continue his battle against islamics planing how holy books are let's not religion then government and offered a ratio where seventeen percent of the text is religious while eighty three percent . of islamic law so basically he's finding ways to encourage law enforcement to engage in racial profiling here in the us by declaring that they're really just fighting the system of government not infringing on people's first amendment rights and now just to make sure they hold his audience as attention check out this
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comparison and he makes the star wars. the end the only . the i am. now as you can imagine many other counterterrorism teachers are just outraged that gotham's lecture when even dubbed his ideology has mccarthyism on steroids and as we reported last time some members of congress like senator joe lieberman are now questioning the qualifications for counterterrorist trainers he's even sending a letter to john brennan now calling for stand. to be put in place for that kind of training so now the f.b.i. has been called out once again for using the teachings of a man which are widely discredited it is not only wrong of potentially illegal i wonder if they're going to stop lying actually prevent it from hosting another
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forum with law enforcement i certainly hope so. and we talk about the struggling economy in this country all the time and more than forty six million people that are now living below the poverty line the fischel nine point one percent unemployment and the real you six measure sixteen point two percent unemployment the fact that large corporations continue to sit on piles of cash had an offshore tax havens and take jobs elsewhere while their executives break in record profits altogether you could call this not only a bad economy but it's an employment crisis but there's one thing about it that never gets talked about and that's the underground economy that's rising because of the crisis that we're in not only where you think in terms of prostitution or selling drugs this includes things like babysitting braiding hair doing laundry just off the record and it's been estimated that this underground economy is worth somewhere around one trillion dollars or eight percent of g.d.p. that means lost revenue for the government but there misconceptions out there about whether people are forced into or choose to be in the shadows and as to whether
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this underground economy hurts or helps to join me to discuss it a surge an associate editor at alter net so i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and first of all tell me if there are some other examples here as i mentioned hair braiding doing laundry babysitting and what else counts as being part of the underground economy. sure there's. your typical. neighborhood. but anything because you don't work. is very. very important. but that's something that you could say has been going on forever right americans been having yard sales asking their neighbors to help them out what do we have to show us that it's really getting worse now post financial crash i mean hasn't. and it's really hard to say with any certainty that it has
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a new thing worse other than the new getting worse and more people are dropping out of it and so whatever you. are that's not counted by any government agency. so. and i do we have any idea in that case for the people who are studying and are saying it's only in credit increasingly growing how much revenue that means is being lost when it comes to taxes that would have been paid. i mean there's hundreds of billions of dollars probably. you know so how does. money see. this in tax revenue when you're. writing and you. should make a living with your kids. mr holmes. well you know you mentioned of
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course is the money to corporations keep an eye out for tax havens i know that's something you have to examine here too because we've got a lot of stories on this show where you see the government and the state governments going after people that might be trying to sell a type of milk but it's not f.d.a. approved at the same time you have companies like whole foods going after people that might want to just grow their own produce and have their own have their own garden in their backyard and do you think that some of the priorities are mixed up here that we should instead of going after people with these type of small operations they should be going more after corporations. sure absolutely i mean. i don't think there's any question. all right well let's go back to talking about underground economy then you know how much of that two factor is in the huge huge labor force about fifteen million people who are undocumented immigrants here in the u.s. . insists. it simply. i
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mean you have a lot of people who are coming in or working under the table who are slim because they can't so they have no recourse because underground were. people who are in legal residency almost as well if you don't have the actions of the apartment you're not. in your employment and you have no recourse. whatever they want to do you want to treat you again it's people when you know the situation has it and there is an action. so there how do you go about changing the dialogue because of course so many of the arguments or here if you talk about undocumented labor people say well they came here illegally and they chose to be in this situation because they don't want to go through the proper routes to get their paperwork or they might say that somebody else is well they're too lazy to apply
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for any real jobs and have to be responsible and how do you change that and get people to realize that you don't choose to be in this type of situation where you're not part of the formal economic structure that goes on i mean when i mean first of all it's a it's not. that it's all sorts of people and so you know i mean we can argue immigration policy for hours and hours and hours but what you really want to. think it's that people are doing this as there are do. you know. beginning is this is. what are you supposed to do what you cannot know and you're on. the backs of is. millions of people who. it's not about people with us. it's about the people who were and they're any sort of legal means that we're actually. in owns.
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people should be aware that it's a crisis. and secret to most people. yeah why i think it's it's not a secret to anyone in this country except for maybe i guess washington or some of the border wall street you know we saw lawmaker john fleming yesterday complaining about the fact that he only brings home four hundred thousand dollars every year and so that's where you see the real disconnect take place you know in the meantime as you wrote about here this underground economy is only starting to grow so i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight thanks. now show and tell us coming up next and then we're being told here in the u.s. that we need to cut budgets we need to slash social services so then why is the u.s. government looking to build a massive new prison at the air base in afghanistan back to the topic in just a few minutes.
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into that only we can make use of if you don't work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i think that. i would characterize obama as a charismatic. of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then a glimpse something else hears you some other part of it and realize that everything is just you don't i'm sorry pacific ocean.

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