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given that we've been apart. i think i'll be the only one well. we never got the live shows here for safely get ready for freedom.
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and it's time for show and tell and i program last time we discussed the three here anniversary of lehman brothers collapsing event especially triggered the global financial crisis and despite the fact the government stepped in to save the wall street banks we don't really seem to be in much better shape now so that all that in mind do you think the government would let another big banks fail or are they just go for another bailout that a producer for treason assigned to find out what you have to say. the second quarter of two thousand and eleven at large at the highest quarterly profit by up the i.c. banks in the u.s. since two thousand so. seven and while the u.s.
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economy continues to sink and banks are rockin and higher profits no one wants to think about a repeat of two thousand and eight but the question of what do we do about a sinking financial institution big enough to take us all down with it is still unanswered by regulators so do we learn anything from lehman would we let another big bank fail or would the government just do it all again omak said with all the lobbying money big finance companies spend on politicians it is unlikely they will reject another bailout program michael told us government and wall street are so interconnected independent on each other that they will surely print as much money as needed to avoid another lehman style collapse milton added no meaningful regulation of the financial sector has occurred without such regulation the big banks will fail again and wall street will use the government to bail them out again the majority of you who responded saw the tight relationship between the government and the banks and that nothing has really changed that would prevent
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another big bank collapse or bail out in our future so why is it so hard for the government and the financial sector to learn from their mistakes maybe because they're both using other people's money. now as always thank you for your responses and here's our next question for you earlier in the show we discussed the case of troy davis death penalty in maiden scheduled to be executed in georgia tomorrow night despite serious doubts of his guilt so knowing that the justice system in the united states is far from perfect do you think that we should still use the death penalty you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and you know your response just might make it on the air. is. the mind will come down. some last you know choirs will be singing. well today we have a true glimmer of hope for those who fought for years just for the opportunity to serve. in the u.s. military as
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a twelve i want to am this morning don't ask don't tell was repealed. the security interference if. all the barriers there would prevent americans for ensuring their country information. that their chance and capabilities from that. he's really been. with their lawyers in the warning to defense of this country and that's what should matter and most. laws been in place for eighteen years back in one thousand nine hundred three the legislation was created to prevent anybody who was openly gay from retyping and serving this country during the life of the law over fourteen thousand armed service members were discharged based on their sexual orientation however all those who were forcibly discharged can now choose or can overturn if they choose to do so thanks to president obama's repeal of the legislation signed last december now this
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bill was certified by congress and gave the approval of defense secretary leon panetta as well as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff mike mullen. i cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are you know to be fair and their fellow citizens. this encourage me to further appeal by admiral mullen is a stark contrast to that of some of the military he says staff such as the marines chief of staff general james amos who expressed concern about the repeal this law but those in favor gateway now dan choi an iraq war veteran he was discharged after he came out on the rachel maddow show his father l g b t equality consistently even getting arrested after chaining himself to the white house fence now we're happy to report that choi is relisting in the army what a difference a few years makes so president obama released a statement today saying that as of today patriotic americans in uniform will no longer have to lie about who they are and in order to serve the country they have
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every american to be proud that we have taken another great step toward keeping the finest our millett toward keeping our military the finest in the world and toward fulfilling our nation's founding ideals obama was joined by several members of congress who plot this move as well as the activists across the country so this country comes together and celebrate the death of this law discriminating against service members who would like to take a pause and realize that the end of don't ask don't tell really is a glimmer of hope. well here's another example of the insane defense spending abroad that continues on this type of planned austerity measures here at home in the us as a lot of outcomes glenn greenwald pointed out posted on the website. of the army corps of engineers is soliciting names of construction firms to build a new detention facility and parwan bagram afghanistan and the facility is going to include detainee housing capability for approximately two thousand detainees as
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well as guard towers administrative facility and vehicle personnel access control gates security surveillance and restricted access systems as the main cost of this project are you know just twenty five to one hundred million dollars and the contract is to be awarded on or around december thirtieth of two thousand and eleven so for starters let's say about our war in afghanistan winding down then we just see the president use a trillion dollars in war savings in the accounting for his deficit reduction plan yesterday and who are going to be holding in this new facility here to discuss that with me is christopher swift of the center for national security law at the university of virginia school of law christopher thanks so much for being here tonight could be back ok so we already have a prison i'm confused why do we need another detention facility that can hold two thousand more people one of the things that we're sort of forgetting is that we're having a war in afghanistan and in war people are forgotten they're not all great and when people are captured you need a place to put them so the fact that we're building
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a new detention facility in either means we need the facility or we anticipate that we're going to need the facility it wouldn't surprise me if we have a backlog or if we have some concerns about whether the afghans are adequately providing security for their facilities but definitely says that the u.s. troop presence in afghanistan especially in southern afghanistan the question regions is going to continue on for quite some time ok so now that winding down exactly we were going to see troops start to leave you could say we're going to have seventy thousand troops only small a tiny number of law. after the fall of two thousand and twelve but now we're going to have more prisons but you know the problem here is you're saying there's a war going on there it needs to be a place to house certain prisoners but you know if you look at human rights organizations human rights watch and rights first they'll tell you that there is no such thing as due process here that these people don't have you know any kind of adequate representation no lawyers so who are we to just keep holding thousands of people well the there's a problem here and it's a legal problem when someone who's detained in iran u.s.
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territory the supreme court has ruled that if your in your is u.s. territory or in an area of effect of u.s. control like once you have a right to what's called it is corpus you can challenge the government's right to hold you or challenge the evidence against you that justifies your be held in the case of a war zone in the case of individuals who are picked up on the field of battle the law that applies is international law and the international law of armed conflict says you can hold those people indefinitely until conflict ceases so you have two different sets of legal standards and one of the arguments you're seeing from groups like human rights first and human rights watch which is a reasonable argument is that there should be at least some due process or some review for people who get picked up who are actually combatants and you know we've seen this in guantanamo we've seen it in barbara we see it in other places but that's the tension the legal tension here between wartime law governed by international law and us to process of law governed by a tradition of abs corpus that goes back well over a thousand years yeah those are a lot of really important question that you brought up and at the same time you
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know at some point we have to hand over control of the prisons to. the afghans the same way that we had iraq and seen how well that has worked out as they have still been reports of rampant torture and you know abuse of detainees going on at those prisons so when does that actually happen here when does the handover of control of the of the president is there any plan say it's hard to say because we haven't decided when we're leaving afghanistan we've decided that we're going to have a smaller footprint in afghanistan we've decided we're going to spend less money in afghanistan we've decided we're going to focus less. religion by village counterinsurgency operations in afghanistan and emphasize more targeted counterterrorism operations but it no point is anybody in the administration or congress or any of the relevant branches of government said this is the date by which there will be no more u.s. presence and that's supposedly ok so if we're going to you know we can say that u.s. officials military officials the nato officials afghan officials have said that maybe by two thousand and fourteen we should hand over control so that at least the
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afghan security forces can be in charge of security for the lead there at this facility which is just announced whether it is still it is something that would be ended over to the afghan national army or the afghan national police but whether it's something that would remain under u.s. or eyes have command my guess is given that it's at bagram again this is just pure speculation on my part is that this is probably a facility for high value person first foreign fighters people that are being detained moving across the border from pakistan or coming down from central asia or people who are part of the hakani network or other high value individuals the average taliban fighters by and large being held by the afghan national police and by the afghan justice ministry in afghan prisons and as we've seen in recent months those afghan prisons are very secure and doing a very good job of keeping people who have been captured captured. every cent jailbreak i forget how many how many months ago we were going to try to basically tunnel under the prison which is an amazing feat not only of engineering but also.
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well they've managed to do it under everybody's nose so why but i think you know that's the other thing about a lot of americans have to remember too is that there are more prisons it's not just bob graham there are many presidents right across afghanistan and maybe they don't know it or they don't realize it but it's kind of if they're not all you know they're all not not all u.s. presidents or a member of the afghan government has its own presence they have their own laws they have their own rules about what happens in their country because of the the people the insurgency there so when we're capturing and killing people on the battlefield the united states has one set of laws afghanistan has another set of laws that reflect their culture and reflect their religious. priorities but at the same time it's still our money and you know it's sad that's crazy as we live in such a world where twenty five hundred million dollars doesn't even sound like a lot anymore right it's become a drop in the bucket but at the same time we are being told here at home that we have to cut the taxes have to be raised and i think that you know that should be worrisome for the don't forget that part of the price tag twenty five million to one hundred million dollars is the cost of getting stuff into afghanistan which is relatively easy if you're talking about paragraph or space but it's also the cost of providing security for the facility for the people we're building so it would be
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at that time and that cost of providing security has gone up exponentially since i was last in afghanistan several years ago and from what i understand it's going to continue to go up as the taliban starts to reconstitute itself it needs to gain interior bases of operations to continue to take the battle against their adversaries in the northern part of the country as it gets more violent and now that we're finally reaching the ten year mark here this war and let's not forget of course that the former president of afghanistan was assassinated today so we're just seeing the bounce pick up christopher thanks so much for joining us today good to see you. now still ahead tonight income inequality if not a big deal and democrats to obsess over it those comments for a news anchor tonight still trying to work out in happy hour bill o'reilly says that he made it this taxes are raised last in a rap video about using food stamps as right wing land pretty pissed off that stick around for some time. into the only way we can
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make use of the kindle we're going to bring justice and accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i think. i would characterize obama as a charismatic. the american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly. think you understand it and then a glimpse something else hears you some of the part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't. chart the big picture. in the far right.
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i think. either one well. we have a global nuclear safety get ready for the air freedom. for .
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i did time for tides tool time award and how to go from break you over at fox news now brit was on bill o'reilly's show last night to discuss obama's deficit reduction plan and as you can imagine the g.o.p. and a mouthpiece for the g.o.p. aka fox news well they're not so happy about obama's plans to raise taxes on those who make over a million dollars a year and they really just hate it when democrats talk about paying your fair share just take a listen to great human below discussing a plan. take from people who have you cake it from there they believe that's moral that's right yeah they do they believe that that's the way to have a more just in a more local pub more just society more level playing field more equitable. circumstance is it ok if you know your limits over this including equality which to
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which to democrats and liberals is a big problem and sometimes it can appear that the democrats some democrats would rather have everybody equally poor that on the rich that's obviously an exaggeration on my part. well you know brit actually seems bothered that some democrats care about inequality here in the us i honestly struggle to understand how caring about income inequality in the united states could be anything but a good thing but maybe brit hume just doesn't understand how big of a deal the growing inequality really is so let's take a look and income inequality in the united states and how it compares to the rest of the world now this map shows the genny coefficient which is a century old formula that measures inequality issues on a scale from zero point zero up two point five zero with five point five zero being the most unequal so as you can see the u.s. is highlighted in purple keep in mind green or blue colors are good purple and the other colors those are bad so according the gini coefficient the u.s. ranks point four five zero which is nearly extreme end of the income inequality
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scale and to give you an idea of where the u.s. ranks on income inequality compared to the rest of the world let's show you mexico the other latin american nations in south america most of these countries are about the same or worse i keep in mind several of those countries have also just been involved in or just emerging from destabilizing conflicts now if we travel over the atlantic ocean to south africa we find several nations that are equal to or slightly worse than the u.s. when it comes to income inequality and those include cameroon that gas car rwanda uganda and ecuador so that's how bad the issue has become here in the u.s. over the last few decades we're now on par with several sub-saharan african nations but brooke you he doesn't have a problem with income inequality here in the u.s. . you do get that sense because of the obsession with this question of inequality equality is there very much higher level who cares who cares well i guess i kind of sums up how the g.o.p. in the rich feel about the fact that an increasing number of people united states
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are struggling while the rich are getting richer and you can't just throw around the word income inequality like you and bill o'reilly do as if it's just some weird strange concept of the democratic bogeyman are called have to it's real actually just last week the census released a report showing that forty six million americans are now living in poverty that's roughly one in six americans and report from feeding america show that seventeen million children suffer from food insecurity and one in four children go hungry so i'll grant you thinks the income inequality is no big deal just an obsession of the left millions of americans would like to differ and that's why brit hume is tonight's tools i went. ok guys time for happy hour enjoy need as the evening is r.t.
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producer jenny churchill and it's not any heard on the hill reporter for roll call thanks for joining me ladies ok so we just showed obviously a very human bill o'reilly being angry about this being who cares about income inequality but then bill to get even farther and and for him to quit if his taxes are raised take a look. by corporations a ploy scores of people they depend on me to do what i do so they can make a nice salary if iraq obama begins to actually mean more than fifty percent which is very possible i don't know how much longer i'm going to do this i like my job but there comes a point when taxes should be called oppression. ok first of all i don't know why he thinks that it's just so possible that pretty soon he's going to be paying fifty percent in taxes i mean please just give me one figure that actually shows that because even if you talk about the buffett rule that's still twenty percent if you want to talk about you know being in the same level as middle income families but you know if that's what it takes to get bill o'reilly to quit and obama do it.
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i don't know all i'm saying is almost like he's forgotten that there's a whole congress there that does not like raising taxes like both sides don't like now so the fact that he even brought it up as a possibility and did a whole thing on it is kind of amusing to me well he's clearly just pandering to people like oh my gosh they're going to raise them but i was with you at first sign on the whole like let's just get amount and i realize we've lost glenn beck you know we don't know we don't subscribe to it you know you do you know you bill goes we've got nothing i have what we have all the box in friends. where we wouldn't be anywhere without vibes and friends being really about just like you know a comedy sketch every single morning and sometimes are really thankful they exist but hopefully everyone else is in this comedy to. ok things this next story really doesn't help there's a whole leg ridge people being angry about having to pay more thing because this
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plays right into the whole idea that for people just like to go. it's a really really hilarious video check it out. just like mark. just said. sure. which. i mean it's pretty good can you get it i really must speak can i say i got yeah but i got the songs like in my head all day all day long right well one of the funny things is that my favorite line is when he asked how the drug dealer but he can't use it for well you know yeah it was my favorite line i really i mean i think i like when he says this is better today card that's really good and you know i have to say i'm a little concerned that this is going to be the hot new thing in the hip hop world like everybody's going to be flashing their e.v.t. and super excited about like the new spinners no no it was like an actor yeah i
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mean someone like a rocker is very good advice they don't have that they want to you know flash their first ladies benz and all the bling that they have they want to show how rich they are not being rich right now is not popular they have to go with what all right is very very high and it is very good and i don't want to see it's actually the story is really sad because as you know unemployment among black males is like a ridiculous high and this is the reality for them you have to go and make it i know you guys made it not fun i thought it was going to be a thing why don't you move the field over to being rich as popular as israel is. now as we're going to do yesterday and said that one in five americans think that you know in a decade will be millionaires everybody always is so odd to mistake the american one never goes out of style but then you have bill o'reilly that says that we'll get tax fifty percent if we are people like mark cuban coming out and saying you know tax us all or warren buffett you know the really really rich people so ready
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ok. this story. is a really good one see that's really really sad but might crack you ok take a look. according to charging documents the kindergarten teacher had asked children to bring pictures of their family for show and tell a crack pipe and several baggies of rocks which later tested positive for methamphetamine were what the six year old brought. i think that might be the worst show and tell story that i ever heard a good crack i actually had a crack in it too oh no he brought it back he was like three thousand dollars worth of crack grazie the imbalance. thousand dollars worth of crack lying around i mean and i could say i didn't really want to break he didn't realize it was all like half cracked half that i was really can i was you know i had to turn around and ask other people in the newsroom can this happen and then. started i thought also that this had to be the worst show and tell thing but i think
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a little research and now it turns out that just this year students have brought a gun i could write a gun a kid brought a hand grenade somebody brought marijuana and then back in two thousand to a child brought a preserved fetus of siamese twins from china. what. you can charge for. that that when. i think of a hand grenade i think hand grenade for a bowling alley to every one yeah. going to when he was one of the joint swings going to come to life and he hacked people already dead. sure which i think. ok well maybe there should be you know some kind of a pamphlet or something as to what you do to run it through the gate is what i see that's way more interesting the crack pipe then like what normally gets brought in for a farewell so i get points for now i'm always going to go to jail so you've got to be crying out over in the hospital oh gee that story just gets worse and worse you
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know the reason i brought up the handbook at the pamphlet is because there is hilarious handbook about nightclubs in new york and basically what they're telling to sound as to how do you terrorists or suspicious people and so we have a few of them picked out and some of the best ones for starters watch out for two or more people communicating and trying not to be observed. very very detailed. another one is individuals with obvious signs of extreme stress or nervousness such as bolding veins in the neck proof you sweating or shaking hands and individuals whose speech includes studying up mumbling or chanting torah has a tender and responsive. this is ridiculous you know well if you were raised in a club you know how many people are sweating and are mumbling because they're drunk and probably have the veins bulging as you began think all day you're over exerting yourself it just seems. that if you think you followed these clips any thirty
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second segment from the jersey shore could end up like worldwide charity why there was one wasn't there like someone who's trying to conceal. wires and i don't know i feel like that would be generally you wouldn't need to tell me the paper that if i could there's wires and tape hanging out of their clothing but i like also and gave you tips on how to identify someone who was plastered and i'm like oh it's a night club like what people are going there to read what i actually want you give us exactly my whole point with those what are you going to mumbling about who isn't getting out of a nightclub but anyway this is your counterterrorism measures you know hard work finding the right people all right guys thanks for joining me tonight i've got to wrap it up that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in to make sure we come back tomorrow and experience the young turks going back on the show now the meantime don't forget speaking with fan appeal on our show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of tonight's show or any other nights you can always catch dolly. slash the lower shelf and coming up next he's been.
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