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sparked the growth of an underground economy and more about that in just a few moments right here on our team. welcome to the lower show we'll get the real headlines with none of the mercy or can be live in washington d.c. now and i are going to talk about the case of troy davis whose last ditch try for clemency was denied today by the georgia board of paroles and pardons so tomorrow a man whose guilt is still in question will more than likely be executed then the unemployment crisis in america has caused the underground economy to grow and what is the underground economy anyway sarah jaffe is going to explain it for us and it looks like the u.s. to shopping around for someone to build a massive new prison for the not ganna stand and all this time i thought we're broke we're going to have all of that morphy tonight including a dose of happy hour but first take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss.
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well today the made stream media continue to turn into entertainment tonight and yeah i know i called him out for doing the exact same thing last friday when they were reporting on countdown to the emmys and silver commenters actually tried to defend them because they said it's friday apparently people want to know which movies that award shows they should watch over the weekend you know i still think that if they want to know what to watch they should go to t.v. guide go to entertainment tonight watch access hollywood or any of the other names in the multitude of shows dedicated to entertainment news we still need someone out there to report on real news people come on so anyway today on this tuesday i guess of the mainstream media was pretending that it was friday. well action creature gets the role but charlie sheen gets the pay day in two and a half men the studio is finalizing a settlement deal that would pay sheen twenty five million dollars sheen misfired last march by warner brothers which produces the series that's what happens when
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people are are negative and it brings in a really positive response i want to thank all the viewers that you never know i donate belin. yeah you know i really get enough of nancy grace in her real job her day job so please just spare me with this one will you i beg you now anyway while the mainstream media's been spending endless hours having producers cut clips from last night's t.v. shows finding guests wasting air time talking about t.v. land let's remember something that's going on in our very real world right now occupy wall street the protests have been taking place since saturday september seventeenth now originally they had hoped the twenty thousand people would show up to occupy the financial district in new york campout stay until bankers heard that people in america had had enough of their corrupt actions their greed is not going by a notice to all the power keeps being it taken away from the many the many being those forty six million people living in poverty the fifteen million people that are
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unemployed the shrinking middle class hell just about all but one percent of us but that one percent those are the few the hold the power and the hold the wealth in washington and around the world so on saturday an estimated two thousand people ended up coming out but the mainstream media they didn't they didn't know they didn't know reporting on it whatsoever now we're four days in there are about one hundred fifty to two hundred protesters who still remain there cantons a coffee park which they've dubbed liberty plaza and at this point at least five people have been arrested some for having a piece of tarp which the police consider the tent another having a bullhorn and some for wearing the guy fawkes masks using some antiquated law about no more than two masked people gathering except during a masquerade party or a similar entertainment and i bet you that they don't use that one against the cuties on holloway and now the protesters continue to say that they're going to be nonviolent some say the police are getting too rough here's a video of some of those arrests taking place.
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a. group. of guys putting. a. so despite all of that happening the mainstream media has continued to ignore the story no reporters on the ground there i guess they're all in a red carpet somewhere prepping for an awards show you know the only place i've ever even seen this mentioned so far was on the rachel maddow show last night when she had michael moore on as a guest but it was because more brought about himself not because rachel asked because he was also pinpointing the ridiculous nature of the media and what they choose to ignore from the tar sands protests and from the white house to the occupy wall street protest that's going on right now meanwhile c.n.n. just teamed up with the tea party to do a presidential debate and you remember how the mainstream media covered every
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single tea party protests the glitz and glam that was involved there you almost could have been fooled a mistaken for some celebrity event and that's a huge part of the problem that's a huge reason why wall street is getting away with its crimes is because the mainstream media doesn't pay any attention to them they don't call out our congress for this administration on a daily basis for one of the biggest crimes of the century so far one that's going on punished and since they're too lazy to do it well why would they bother covering a protest where someone else wants to see that's what they choose to miss. well looks like all hope may be lost for sure davis he said to be executed by lethal injection at seven pm tomorrow night in the state of georgia davis was convicted of murdering an off duty police officer but many questions around the case including the lack of any physical evidence and recanted statements by seven
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of the nine original witnesses and a last ditch effort davis' legal team appealed to the georgia board of pardons and paroles yesterday seeking clemency but this morning the decision by the five member board was announced request for clemency tonight they've this case is one that finally got the mainstream media's attention in the last week or so as hundreds of activists have been protesting in georgia setting for to. sins and u.s. lawmakers have been speaking out but it's one that's been in doubt for years this is already davis' fourth execution date and over the past two decades this case is seen an exceptional number of appeals and hearings including a rare step by the supreme court in two thousand and ten which didn't review this case granted another hearing to world leaders and government officials have also drawn attention to this as well from the pope and president jimmy carter to former f.b.i. director william sessions but if this man is executed tomorrow who's guilt is still in doubt one of the history books going to say joining me to discuss it is radley balko senior writer and investigative reporter for the huffington post riley thanks
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so much for joining us tonight and first i guess if you could clarify some things as to whether this really was the last hope for troy davis because i think a lot of people are confused out there some are asking why president obama doesn't grant him clemency or why it doesn't come from the governor of georgia himself but as far as i'm concerned those two people they can't step in here could the supreme court do something. i mean can always step in and i guess i think the problem is that most of the issues that could be litigated in davis' case have been made these challenges and these laws so. it seems really really unlikely that the supreme court will intervene and president obama came into being because this is a state case and the governor of georgia intervened you actually has no power in georgia all the power rests with this clemency board which incidentally the five members the clemency board all have one exception for the five law enforcement background it was
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a former top on crime republican legislator so you know davis really didn't have a chance on board and really got to stop the. people. solely with people that kind of background really. well it's not forget it's a dream court actually did state two executions in the state of texas recently a right we have a case of doing back in and just today. it was one more for a cleaner faster so i guess things are always possible but we're not sure here but you know another thing happened today which is two lawmakers from the state of georgia one senator and one representative they're now asking those who work in the prison to strike or to hold the sickout so basically they have nothing but just the bare bones minimum amount of employees there to morrow have never seen anything like that done before. not that i know i mean it seems sort of unlikely i mean i doubt that they're going to if they could get even if you know a couple people decided to do that i doubt they could get enough to actually not be able to carry forth with the execution but i mean i think there is a you know
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a real kind of central point to be made here and that is that. i mean it's the people pushing for davis is that you are right i mean he has exhausted all appeals and he's been given a lot of appeals but the fact that you know he has exhausted all of the checks and balances that our system affords somebody in its position and there's still this much doubt about it and you still you know closing in on twenty four hour states huge i think is a pretty good damning indictment of the system and particularly the penalty that's you know to be reversible and final. yeah you make a really good point there too and especially now if you think of the fact that this latest trial hearing of the judges would say that there isn't there is so much doubt surrounding the fact that seven of the nine witnesses have decided to recant their statements so there is too much doubt surrounding it to prove this man's innocence but somehow there is there's not enough doubt to still continue to prove his guilt and to send him to the execution chamber and not just at that same cell
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back courts if you ask me. well i mean what happens is during your trial they have to prove your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt once you're convicted. the tables you know then turn and you have a very very high hurdle to clear to get a new case in fact you basically have to prove that you found new evidence that wasn't available at the time of your trial and if the jury had heard it they probably would have believed that you were innocent that's a really really high burden and it needs to be that way at the was you know people constantly getting you know the just it's just a system to sort of throw in disarray problem is that a case like this i mean when there are inherent flaws in the system that allow bad evidence to get in as it did in this case you know i wouldn't know for centuries that there are clear problems with this testimony and that it's been vastly overstated in criminal trials so when you know that there are fundamental problems of how the evidence got into the trial in the first place and i think you need to lower that standard you know and be more willing to entertain claims like this i
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mean you know to be in a testing that there are four thousand system and those flaws exist even in cases where you know d.n.a. wasn't part of the case. and you do assume that you know the problem is that i was testimony of prosecutorial misconduct all that are only you know present in d.n.a. cases the president all and i think the d.n.a. testing should provoke in our eyes and make it more willing to you know to go back and look at some of these other cases what. doesn't really play a role. but do you think that americans are willing to go back there i mean i'm just wondering if you think that we're seeing some kind of a trend in terms of attitudes changing when it comes to capital punishment or quite the opposite it's becoming more divisive because you have some states out there that are botching the death penalty and at the same time now we have presidential candidates that are getting cheered by the crowds when there are incredibly high record execution record is mentioned. i mean i think some of our more thoughtful
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pundits and thought leaders i mean i think you can certainly sense a change in their opinions toward the punishment i think it's becoming much more skeptical unfortunately i think for most politicians and for the general public and its support is still strong and part of the reason i think is is. our law enforcement officials and politicians have really kind of taken me. the uncomfortable miss out of capital punishment you know heard a comedian once say once joked about the fact that they you know they swab the in the condemns arm with alcohol before they give the lethal injection which sort of those make the sense right there that they are not afraid of infection obviously but david but i think the point there is that we've turned you know it was a state killing into basically what looks like a medical procedure. and we've really been there all these ritual sort of involved with it and you know the last two women who were up for execution both of whom you
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know were almost certainly guilty were both given given clemency and i think because the governors of those states tennessee and virginia knew that it's sort of unseemly it's uncomfortable to see if you're a woman being executed so i think one reason why support a state so strong is that is that the politicians are really taking a lot by even the sting out of capital punishment is really sort of anesthetized the public so i actually think execution should be televised i think if the government's going to do this in our name we should you know we should watch what's going on we should be familiar with what happens. well you know at the same time though and i think you know a good point there that we're so far removed from these executions these days but at the same time a lot of it really is emotionally charged that something of the parole board mentioned here they said we know this is a very emotionally charged case because you see so many people protesting it's very emotional for the family of the officer that was killed they want some kind of justice too but how do you remove some of that emotion maybe maybe that is
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a better idea and make it more rational and tell people that you know this is costing so much money we can't afford it anymore. well i mean people are emotional because there are doubts about the guys you know i mean you know you know every every execution obviously is going to have some emotion around in a lot of actions but i mean this case in particular has stirred a lot of people up because they don't like the idea that we're i mean you know bob barr the former congressman from georgia who's very pro not that would you still produce i'm going to stay i've been very passionate about the about trying to stop this execution because there's doubt here i mean and i think there's reason for passion emotion when there's about to kill someone when they doubt about their guilt of course we need to be rational in considering evidence but you know in this case again we have you know he's he was convicted on i when this testimony which is proven to have lots of problems and be overstating things and then seven of the nine i would this is a since recanted and you know the judge the federal judge who reviewed the evidence
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and they have that hearing said you know that well if i want to test what is flawed this is even later that they have recanted so it's even less reliable but some of those are kids who said they were actually pressured by police the first time around and that's something that you know that's a very different sort of memory than memory of the contours of somebody's face right so there are again you know i think that we need to sort of the evidence rationally but certainly there's a motion when the government's about to do something that you find it more and i rather want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and unless something does happen here and the supreme court steps and it doesn't look like try davis will be executed tomorrow night thanks. so i mean. as still ahead tonight a glimmer of hope for gay u.s. servicemen and women stationed around the world that's later on tonight and now that the one trillion dollar underground economy here in the u.s. so many americans are trying to stay afloat during the economic crisis we're going like into that topic in just a moment. culture
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free. free. free. video for your media project free radio gondar t.v. dot com. last week we first told you about an f.b.i. training handbook leaked by whistleblower when they expose hateful and very islamophobia training materials being used to teach f.b.i. counterterrorism agents now wired's danger and wire danger room spencer ackerman published excerpts from a counterterrorism course that's pacifically called muhammad a cult leader and labeled all muslims even those considered mainstream a threat to america as word quickly spread about the program that the i moved into damage control mode declaring the elective counterterrorism class a one time affair which ended this april however turns out that claim seems to be
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false because danger room is now uncovered a new video displaying the man who taught that course william gahl for giving a similar type of lecture in new york city and that event took place in june of this year months after the f.b.i. said the man it's stock trading f.b.i. agents now is a lecture sponsored by a public private partnership for law enforcement officials and the f.b.i. has scrambled to remove gotham's entire lecture but there is a one thirty minute segment that's been salvaged and that on wired there's been a few changes to gaza or of course for starters he states that he is lecturing as a private citizen and his power point presentation he uses his military email address rather than the one from the f.b.i. it also appears as if god troops rhetoric has also changed a bit since the course he taught in quantico back in april at the beginning of the lecture he specifically states that he's talking about islam as a government and as an ideology he specifically says under the first amendment that he won't be discussing islam as a religion. the earlier the you who
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knew who did. the who you know ok. i know who i am the over. the the who. now despite the disclaimer which he uses to cover his ass his general feelings towards muslims are still the same author of explained that it's pointless to target just one group of radicals like hamas are all qaeda and said he suggested the best way to protect the country is to go after islam itself i was speaking of course from a non religion it standpoint he's also got a loophole to continue his battle against islamics planing how holy books are let's not religion then government and offered up a ratio where seventeen percent of the text is religious while eighty three percent compromises of islamic law so basically he's finding ways to encourage law
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enforcement to engage in racial profiling here in the us by declaring that they're really just fighting a system of government not infringing on people's first amendment rights and now just to make sure they hold his audience as attention check out this comparison that he makes to star wars. the show only in the ocean the o.-o. o.-o. o.-o. . who. who. now as you can imagine many other counterterrorism teachers are just outraged that gotham's lecture one even dubbed his ideology as mccarthyism on steroids and as we reported last time some members of congress like senator joe lieberman are now questioning the qualifications for counterterrorist trainers he's even sending a letter to john brennan now calling for a scanner. to be put in place for that kind of training so now the f.b.i.
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has been called out once again for using the teachings of a man which are widely discredited it is not only wrong or potentially illegal i wonder if they're going to stop lying and actually prevent it from hosting another forum with law enforcement i certainly hope so. and we talk about the struggling economy in this country all the time more than forty six million people that are now living below the poverty line the official nine point one percent unemployment and the real you six measured sixteen point two percent unemployment the fact that large corporations continue to sit on piles of cash in offshore tax havens and take jobs elsewhere while their executives break in record profits altogether you could call this not only a bad economy but it's an employment crisis but there's one thing about it that never gets talked about and that's the underground economy that's rising because of the crisis that we're in not only where you think in terms of prostitution or selling drugs this includes things like babysitting braiding hair doing laundry just off the record and it's been estimated that this underground economy is worth
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somewhere around one trillion dollars or eight percent of g.d.p. that means lost revenue for the government but there misconceptions out there about whether people are forced into or choose to be in the shadows and as to whether this underground economy hurts or helps to join me to discuss it a surge an associate editor at alter net so i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and first of all tell me if there are some other examples here as i mentioned hair braiding doing laundry babysitting and what else counts as being part of the underground economy. i mean there's a lot of things. your typical. things you don't know. your neighborhood. anything basically that you don't work were to the i.r.s. or isn't regulated. as the underground economy very informal. but that's something that you could say has been going on forever right americans been having yard sales
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asking their neighbors to help them out what do we have to show us that it's really getting worse now post financial crash and you know. and it's really hard to say with any certainty that it hasn't been worse other than the fact that the employer the numbers keep getting worse and more people are dropping out of it and so what are you you know you can't change. counted by any government agency but you can assume that people. so. are you and i do we have any idea in that case for you know the people who are studying it that are saying that it's only in credit are increasingly growing how much revenue that means is being lost when it comes to you know taxes that would have been paid. i mean there's hundreds of billions of dollars probably. you know it still probably doesn't compare to the money it's the health of corporations. i think
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in this in tax revenue. point is that people are unemployed and are finding any way to. make a living if you their kids to be. in their homes while they're. well you know you mentioned of course is the money that corporations keep an offshore tax havens and you know that's something you have to examine here too because we've done a lot of stories on this show where you see the government you know could be state governments going after people that might be trying to sell a type of milk but it's not f.d.a. approved at the same time you have companies like whole foods going after people that might want to just grow their own produce and have their own have their own garden in their backyard and do you think that some of the priorities are mixed up here that we should instead of going after people with these type of small operations they should be going more after corporations. absolutely i mean. i don't think there's any question. all right well let's go back to talking about
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underground economy then you know how much of that two factors in the huge huge labor force about fifteen million people that are undocumented immigrants here in the u.s. . it's definitely. and. it's simply. that i mean you have a lot of people who are coming in or working under the table who are being exploited because they can't so they have no legal recourse because underground were. people who are legal residents the answer is well you don't have protections of the live apartment you're not in the employer's outpouring your employment no recourse if you're basically stuck with whatever they want and you really want to treat you know again it's people lining up in these situations because if they are it's very little action. so then how do you go about
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changing the dialogue because of course so many of the arguments or here if you talk about undocumented labor people say well they came here illegally and they chose to be in this situation because they don't want to go through the proper routes to get their paperwork or you know they might say that somebody else is well they're too lazy to apply for any real jobs and have to be responsible and how do you change that and get people to realize that you don't choose to be in this type of situation where you're not part of the formal an economic structure that goes on i mean i think first of all it's important to point that it's not just in the words it's all sorts of people and so you know i mean we can argue immigration policy for hours and hours and hours but what you really want to highlight about this i think it's that people are doing this because there are horrible options. you know when unemployment you mentioned beginning is. what are you supposed to do if you count on the job and your employer the fits right now the maximum is ninety nine weeks we
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have millions of people who. it's not about people with us. it's people who can't find work and there are any sort of legal means it would be the enough action. people should be aware it's a great it's not i don't think. it's secret to most people. yeah i think it's it's not a secret to anyone in this country except for maybe i guess washington or some of the people on the walls a very you know we saw lawmaker john fleming yesterday complaining about the fact that he only brings home four hundred thousand dollars every year and that's where you see the real disconnect take place you know in the meantime as you wrote about here this underground economy is only starting to grow so i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight thanks. now showing tells coming up next and then we're being told here in the u.s. that we need to cut budgets we need to slash social services so then why is the
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the international monetary fund so that both europe and the u.s. are headed for a double dip recession unless they get their act together. and radically increase growth according to the i.m.f. countries around the world. a revamp of their economic policies or face in the last two decades the report came as italy was downgraded by standard and poor's causing more concern over the euro zone's economic outlook. by head of the palestinian push for full statehood at the un the israeli forces prepare for possible unrest but as our team finds out the trouble is homegrown some is a really set of settlers are protesting in the west bank near palestinian homes this is washington repeats a threat to veto any move to recognize palestine israeli forces are also reinforcing towards them before they leave laying landmines in some places. and speaking at the u.n. president obama backflip.
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