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as palestine's bid for statehood at the united nations looms closer the world's eyes are on israel r.t. spoke to the former head of the israeli secret services. who things solutions to peace in the region do exist he shares his insights in our interview that's next. but we now have an israeli politician and the former head of the shin bit the israeli secret service thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. for several years now you've advocated a two state solution between israelis and palestinians do you see the palestinian bid at the united nations as a stick in the star action i'm not sure i think that. what would be the scenario that we should see in the next future there is the scenario immediately of to occur you know for public admission. probably the international community will
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create such a pressure of the breed of these sides to negotiate on peace. probably it would be a step on the road to two to two state solution yossi beilin a form it depicts israeli foreign affairs minister has said that if as well did it most to connote peace the country wouldn't find itself in the position it is today with the palestinians appealing to be united nations for statehood do you think israel has done enough to promote peace. look i hate to you know to blame ourselves for everything i see that if you ask me i prefer the betrayal for the stability of our responsibility it doesn't mean other players international community america or europe or palestinians. you know every. right i sing is that yes we. could do much more
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what we know with the. reality of two states look if we go. not many years we built a fence the security fence the idea was to give security to the israeli people. in a way we succeeded. but with our roads any intention we created the reality of two states and i sings that when we see on the reality today on the route of the fence is not the root of our greed future borders. but this is something that we can use in order to create reality of two states we can pass within one week. the law of compensating those surplus who are living on the eastern side of the fence and wish to return without creating any physical
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pressure on those on the also close who doesn't want to return and lists in the future we should live agreement with the palestinians so why doesn't israeli prime minister netanyahu do that is the answer as simple as the fact that he needs a coalition to stay in power look the mystic politics is always. some role in decisions of every political leader in every democracy it is not new i want to add something more i think that especially for the international community and international audience i see that most people around the world does not understand . how difficult it is for the israelis. look i think that it is much more difficult in totally different from. any any peace agreement that we had with jordan or egypt or if in the
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future we shall have. a political or a peace agreement with syria. we use jordan syria and egypt are. peace between two states. with the police to me and it is a kind of existential conflict are we in order to sign an agreement with the palestinians we have to touch zim all sensitive nerves of our existence or. you know we have after sixty seventy or one hundred years of zionism to ask ourselves or to deal with the issue of jerusalem. of settlements of refugees of right of return not only on security. it is very very difficult because it goes back
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into questions of who we are why we are sitting here and not in america in europe or somewhere in africa and i have to explain you some seeing you know that i see that people is a walled tend to forget that the whole idea of sameness is a beginning was a very simple concept when it came to a political terms that the future borders of the state of israel will be where ever we can build a settlement wards are learned and defend ourselves why don't israelis embrace what some see as a real opportunity for peace when the palestinians declare their state most israelis to do does not feel secure as they look around us and they see instability and they see. it. the see in security
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this is a where we translate we understand. what we see around us in the middle east whether it is what we see in iran or in syria or egypt or in your i don't know what will happen tomorrow in jordan or in saudi arabia is there anything of real substance for the palestinians in the u n a kill or is it more of their public relations effort it will change the perception of the international community probably it will be translated to sanctions economic diplomatic sanctions but it will change the perception of people in the region of the stimulants muslim arabs. in our neighboring countries. a seeing that we have practically to understand that the daily will be totally different and how will israel react a day later. i have no idea first of
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all. most israelis will see in your secret. we shall have to see what will happen and. what will be the palestinian reaction the vote is seen by many not only as a vote of sympathy with the palestinians but also as a barometer of discontent with the israeli government in your opinion what should the israeli government do with the roughly half a million israelis that live in settlements gifted with does not know where you want to say there is no wind on earth that would remove them it is true not only of . so i think that we have to jump ahead. to try to describe the idea of two states. practically a seeing that in order to create this reality of two states in the future we should have to bring most of the surplus. to israel. we have to
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agree on sixty seven borders we swap equal swap based on parameters of demography security and contiguity. we have to draw a very very clear red line but a steam era for jews shall return only to the future state of palestine and jews should return only to the to the state of israel. really comes of security. will be de-militarized in the international community showgirl. safety independent whatever i see that based on these promises we have to create our strategy we have to announce that we. will be the parameters for the future political agreement why has the israeli international campaign against the
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un but failed especially when it was just a few months ago when israel seemed internationally to win the fight against stopping the second for to live attempt to break the blockade on gaza that most israelis do not understand. is a war that we are fighting to assume that we are. behaving as if we are fighting a conventional war with north of the third and that we are fighting a symmetry war which is totally different and what we are doing we are winning everybody and we are losing the war in light of what happened with egypt and in light of what's happened with turkey and now in light of what will happen at the united nations do israelis since the growing isolation that they have in the international community one of the huge mistakes. that we are doing.
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we do not see. not the original and not the international consequences or results of of the new reality or the new middle east. that was born during the last twelve months. for example we do not understand zor all of turkey in this new middle east we do not understand that the collapse of egypt as a regional player. created a situation in which turkey is a regional player and probably is a cornerstone of the american strategy and diplomacy in the middle east create a situation in which it is a major interest of america. to empower turkey as the middle east becomes more unstable who benefits. from the extremists players
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in the middle east benefit from curious. whether it is. how mass other a very extreme groups i think that pragmatic players are losing and this is why it is so important to try to create a pragmatic free more broad matic axis of players what it can bring peace to the region peace we will not come. with. no hope. if people will not believe that it is achievable. is there another two bit. so the question should be what should be do what should be do or what can we do in order to create top mr i mean i don't thank you very much for joining us to. sink you very much.
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very first verses of the bible that all human beings are created but sentimental came in god's image and it doesn't say just jews or non jews. sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a combat soldier territories was to do with deterrence doing what we call making our presence felt to go out should some boat so they hear a knock on some doors run to the other corner invade another house religion and nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. bloodshed a few more bombed and killed. a thousand four hundred people in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect until
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urges the palestinian bid for statehood to be given for a time at the un that says washington threatens to use its veto power against a unilateral move just a year after president obama promised palestinians a seat at the a sample of. the u.s. is accused of encouraging the arab spring to achieve its own interest even though it sacrificed the position of its closest ally israel leaving it isolated. greece makes good progress in talks with the dead inspectors of absence hopes to get another aid package to stave off default by the i.m.f. warns the global economy's in a perilous state with the u.s. close to falling back into recession. those are the top stories here on our team and to tell you will now date isn't what's happening in the world of sports i'll be back at the top of the hour with more updates.
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thanks maureen they are watching the sport and here is what's coming up in the program down but not for this second defeat in new zealand bought managed to register the first ever tries in a rugby world cup. manchester united's winning streak continues the red devils leads in the carling cup third round michael owen with a double in this one. and also will take a look back at the most crucial episodes a week twenty four in the russian premier league including this long range. who are against the league's most talked about side. and let's go straight to new zealand first where it was a case of ups and downs for russians rugby team of the world cup on tuesday the battle is running in the first about tries that it's in the men's about going down to the second straight lots at the finals basically called them to take turns doing
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thirty six point defeats in. all the bells with producing four tries and five more would follow but it's an exam that. down six minutes from the break i should first of all welcome troy and the athletes in the second hall will give the final school and as long self-respect the bail out same russia will also to the u.s. in that opening clash take on ireland next and then australia so it would be very very very good first off we're going to get away when penalties and their crews are you know real pretty you can strive to do you know you could go without the ball never got a yellow card but go to school for of tries in the first i think thirty minutes and to get the bonus point before before of time was a fantastic performance you don't go to the scrum we're going to do all the impact points you created tries to explode name before was played really well so defeat for team russia but plenty of positives still on the night man in new zealand. offers his his thoughts on the clash. italy may have run out easy what isn't the
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end of a plenty of positives but russia can take out of what was only best second ever game of the rugby world cup most notably of a manager run in for a very well work tries and never gave up against the italian side but was vastly more experienced should give us a little score because of the final school and looks discouraging but not the game itself i think unfortunately we couldn't score a forced choice we were left without a bonus point but it was seen that the team managed to put it up to italy to large periods. or coming into the match for italians are always going to be hot favorites globally one of world rugby is more established nations while they're ranked in the world's top ten one in contrasts the russians were not even in the world's top twenty and to make matters worse it seemed that most of nelson had turned out to cheer on the. russian coaching stars biggest concern coming into the encounter was a scrum and those fears proved to be well founded for a while but much to get a look at this graeme is an elements which involves a lot of technique and teamwork not just physical strain of i have to admit the
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detail you used much better than us tonight but we know who you put in the packers and we always try to improve it but the russians were shell shocked for most of the first half as elementary mistakes cost and dearly as battalions run in try after troy but with half time approaching alexander young was run over to become the first russian ever to score a try rugby world cup and they'd run into further tries in the second half as they were awarded for their attacking enterprise. we just coached we need to keep the ball life and keep born hearts fans he's playing and. i think. some positive things we did or the russians can take a lot of credit from their performance especially their display in the second half but for some very silly mistakes house was call i could have been a lot closer richard d'arcy nelson new zealand. was for the night of continue their impressive run of the start of the new season the devil's latest
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success coming in the league cup against leeds michael owen instrumental in what was his first appearance for the team this season the striker open skilfully with a smooth finish following a jason park boss in the fifteen minutes. and despite his bench players status recently owen show dishcloths again in a different style putting money and i did two off with a loss from just inside the area in the second ryan giggs then out of the third would be so afeard still in the opening haul for three meals how it ended up at elland road sending man united into the fourth stage. in the meantime chelsea who has harassed by united in sunday's league game take on full on late on wednesday manager borsch also planning to fill the younger line up for the clash while complaining over the referee's job that united defeat in the process very very unhappy with the poor performance from from the referees.
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this is. the result i don't think it's very very likely. because it's. those two first goals and two first goals you know proper to new york. before of time plays an important part and you expect the linesman to do is as you're now a rebel in is a foot in tennis rafael nadal and tamara and other top players demanding the fact scandal. has to change the tension becoming clear during the recent davis cup semifinals adele particularly vocal about having to play his cup tie for spain against france just days after the u.s. open final. well world number one novel joke of it she was forced to withdraw from his survey in team clash against argentina's juan martin del potro last weekend to injury and meeting with eighty b.n. i.t. officials over the issue will take place in shanghai next month. and to russian
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fresh air it is the palestinian bid for statehood to be given for time at the un security council as washington threatens to use its veto power against the unilateral move. the u.s. is accused of encouraging the arab spring to achieve its own interest even though it sacrificed the position of its closest ally israel leaving it isolated. an international team of data inspect. sees progress in talks with greece while the i.m.f. warns the global economy is in a perilous state. plus in business russia markets kick off the trade in session makes reflected in the global sense and will have more on that in business in twenty minutes. eleven am on the.
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