at the united nations looms closer the world's eyes are on israel r.t. spoke to the former head of the israeli secret services a lot who think solutions to peace in the region do exist he shares his insights in our interview next in our city. let me i have an israeli politician and the former head of the shin bit the israeli secret service thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. for several years now you've advocated a two state solution between israelis and palestinians do you see the palestinian bid at the united nations as a step in the star action i'm not sure i think that. what would be the scenario that we should see in the next future there is the scenario immediately of to occur you know for public admission. probably the international community will

create such a pressure of the breed of the sides to negotiate on peace. probably it would be a step on the road to two to two state solution yossi beilin a form it depletes israeli foreign affairs minister has said that if as well did it at most two comeau peace the country wouldn't find itself in the position it is today with the palestinians appealing to the united nations for statehood do you think israel has done enough to promote peace. look i hate to you know to blame ourselves for everything i see that if you ask me i prefer the betrayal for instability our responsibility doesn't mean other players international community america europe or palestinians. you know every. right i sing that yes we. could do much more

what we know with the. reality of two states look if we go. not many years we built a fence a security fence the idea was to give security to the israeli people. in a way we succeeded. but with out. any intention we created the reality of two states and i sings that when we see on the reality today on the route of the fence is not the root of our greed future borders. but this is something that we can use in order to create reality of two states we can pass within one week. the law of compensating zol surplus while leaving all of the eastern side of the fence and wish to return without creating any physical

pressure on those on the also who doesn't want to return and lists in the future we shall have agreement with the palestinians so why doesn't israeli prime minister netanyahu do that is the answer as simple as the fact that he needs a coalition to stay in power look domestic politics is always. some role in the stations of every political leader in every democracy it is not new but i want to add something more i think that especially for the international community and international audience i see that most people around the world does not understand. how difficult it is forces release. but look i think that it is much more difficult in totally different from. any any peace agreement that we had with jordan or egypt or

if in the future we should have. a political or a peace agreement with syria. resists jordan syria and egypt. it is peace between two states. with the palestinians it is a kind of existential conflict we in order to sign an agreement with the palestinians we have to touch as a most sensitive nerves of our existence in. you know we have after sixty seventy or one hundred years of saudis to ask ourselves or to deal with the issue of jerusalem. of settlements of refugees of right of return not only on security now it is very very difficult because it goes back into questions of who we are why we are sitting here and not

in america in europe or somewhere in africa and i have to explain you some seeing you know that i think that people is a walled tend to forget that the whole idea of sameness in the beginning was a very simple concept when it came to a political terms the future borders of the state of israel will be where ever we can build a settlement. and defend ourselves why don't israelis embrace what some see as a real opportunity for peace when the palestinians declare their state most israelis to do does not feel secure they look around us and they see instability and they see threat in the sea in security this is a way we translate we understand. what we see around us in the middle east whether

it is what we see in iran or in syria or egypt or in the i don't know what will happen tomorrow in jordan or in saudi arabia is there anything of real substance for the palestinians in the u.n. a kill or is it more other public relations effort it will change the perception of the international community probably will be translated to sanctions economic at their music. diplomatic sanctions but it will change the perception of people is a region of the stimulants of muslim arabs. in our neighboring countries. and i seeing that we have practically to understand that the daily will be totally different and how will israel react a day later. i have no idea first of all. most israelis will see.

i think that. we shall have to see what will happen and. what will be the palestinian reaction the vote is seen by many not only as a vote of sympathy with the palestinians but also as a barometer of discontent with the israeli government in your opinion what should the israeli government do with the roughly half a million israelis that live in settlements the captain who does not know where he wants to say there is no wind on earth that would bring him down it is true not only of. so i think that we have to jump ahead. to try to describe the idea of two states. practically async that in order to create this reality of two states in the future we shall have to bring most of the settlers. to israel. we have to agree on

sixty seven borders with is swap equal swap based on parameters of demography security and contiguity. we have to draw a very very clear red line palestinian refugees shall return only to the future state of palestine and jews should return only to the to the state of israel. comes of security polished are only really believe in the international community showgirl. safety independent whenever i see that. we have to create our strategy we have to announce that. we'll be the parameters for the future political agreement why has the israeli international campaign against the un but failed especially when it was just

a few months ago when israel seemed internationally to win the fight against stopping the second for to live attempt to break the blockade on gaza that most israelis do not understand. is a war that we are fighting with it seems that we are. behaving as if we are fighting a conventional war with north of the third and that we are fighting a symmetry war which is totally different and what we are doing we are winning everybody and we are losing the war in light of what happened with egypt and in light of what's happened with turkey and now in light of what will happen at the united nations do the israelis since the growing isolation that they have in the international community one of the huge mistakes. that we are doing. we do not see. not the original and not the international

consequences or results are of of the new reality or the new middle east. that was born during the last twelve months. for example we do not understand zor all of turkey in this new middle east we do not understand the collapse of egypt as a regional player. created a situation in which turkey is a regional player and probably is a corner store of the american strategy and diplomacy in the middle east create a situation in which it is a major interest of america. to empower turkey as the middle east becomes more unstable who benefits. from the extremists players in the middle east benefit from curious. whether it is. our

how masts are there are a very extreme groups i think that pragmatic players are losing and this is why it is so important to try to create a pragmatic free more broad mattick axis of players what can bring peace to the region beasts will not come with. no hope. if people would not believe that you do achieve a bit. so the question should be what should be do what should be do or what can we do in order to create top mistiming i don't thank you very much for joining us here. thank you very much.

very first verses of the bible to all human beings are created but sentimental came in god's image and it doesn't say just jews are not under. sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a combat soldier by territory was to do with deterrence doing what we call making our presence felt you go out should somebody so they hear a knock on some doors run to the other corner and they don't know how religion and nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. bloodshed if you want to bomb guys and. i thousand four hundred people in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect into a feat you have to be either extremely naive or extremely stupid. to hear of

your religious jew calling another joe and not believe they really didn't.

palestinians are taking to the streets of the west bank to show support for the early years bid to win u.n. recognition that's as russian tries to help them through despite u.s. opposition these are live pictures you're looking at. the u.s. is accused of encouraging the arab spring to achieve its own interest even though it sacrifies the position of its closest ally israel leaving it isolated. greece makes good progress in talks with debt inspectors as athens hopes to get another aid package to stave off the fall but the i.m.f. warns the global economy is in perilous state with the u.s. and e.u. close to falling back into recession. as we had lines here on our t.v. and sports next when the.

thanks marina you're watching the sport of data and here is what's coming up in the program down but not out russia south of the second defeating new zealand managed to register their first ever tries in a world cup game. manchester united's winning streak continues there are leads in the carling cup third round my fellow win with a double in this one. and also take a look back at the most crucial episodes of week twenty four in the russian premier league including this long range killer you want a game against league's most talked about side. and let's go straight to new zealand first where it was a case of ups and downs for russia's rugby team at the world cup on tuesday the bells running in the first ever tries at the tournaments but going down to the second straight defeat at the finals easily condemning the david jones to a thirty six point defeat in the us on style for the battles with the italians

producing four early tries and five more would follow but an exam very yellow skin touch down six minutes from the break russia's first ever world cup try and super the alphas in the second half would give the final scoreline a semblance of respectability same russia who lost to the u.s. on their opening clash take on island next and then australia but we can create a very very good first if we only get away when penalties and their two zero you know real pretty year to construct you know you could go without the yellow card but good to school for of tries in the first i think thirty minutes and to get the bonus point before the fourth time was a fantastic performance you don't go to the scrum we donated all the impact points recreated tries to explode name of fools played really well so it was a defeat for us in russia but plenty of positives to on the night our man in new zealand richard paul floated off as his thoughts on the clutch. italy may have run out easy wood isn't the end of a plenty of positives but russia can take what was only best second ever game of

the rugby world cup most notably the fact that they managed to run in for a very world work tries and never gave up against that's how inside it was vastly more experienced should give us a little more scope was closer to the final school and looks discouraging but not the game itself. couldn't score a force joy they were left without a bonus point but it was seen that the team managed to put it up to italy for large periods. coming into the match for tally is always going to be hot favorites has very glibly one of the world rugby is more established nations while they're ranked in the world's top ten one in contrasts the russians were not even in the world's top twenty and to make matters worse it seemed that most of nelson had turned out to cheer on the. russian coaching stars biggest concern coming into the encounter was a scrum and those fears proved to be well founded for a match to get a look at this grammys in elements which involves a lot of technique and teamwork is physical strength and i have to admit the detail you used it much better than us tonight we know who you put in the packers and we

always try to improve it but the russians were shell shocked for most of the first half as elementary mistakes cost them dearly as battalions run in trying off to try but with half time approaching alexander young was run over to become the first russian ever to score a try rugby world cup and they'd run into two further tries in the second half as they were awarded for their attacking enterprise. just coach we need to keep ball from kid born holmes he and i think. some positive things we did well russians can take a lot of credit from their performance especially their display in the second half but for some very silly mistakes have school on could have been a lot closer richard d'arcy nelson new zealand. on to english football now i must stay united continued their impressive run of the start of the new season the dalles latest success coming in the league cup against leeds michael owen

instrumental in what was his first appearance for the team this season the striker open skilfully with a smooth finish following a jason park boss in the fifteenth minutes. and despite his bench players status recently owen showed this loss again in a different style of putting man united to offer the boss from just inside the area in thirty second drive giggs added the said with a so after it's still in the opening health three zero how it ended up with alan drone sending invites us into the fourth stage. meanwhile chelsea who are thrashed by man united in sunday's league game take on full on late on wednesday manager abortion also planning to field a younger line up for the clash while complaining over the referee's job and that united defeat in the process was very very unhappy with a poor performance from from the referees.

in the result and i don't think it's very very likely. because it's. those two first goals and two first goals you know proper to new york. before of time plays an important part and you expect the linesman to do is as your. let's move now to boxing where miguel cottoned on tonya margarita continue preparing and promoting their upcoming bout puerto rican quarter looking for sweet revenge after losing to the same man a few years ago as the two go head to had for his w.b. super welterweight world title on december third however it's the certain weight restrictions driven by cartels that are drawing more attention form a champion in a lighter category margarito says he has no idea why his opponent insisted on cutting one pound off the standard one hundred fifty four pound upper limit for that super welterweight bout in just over two months time. i want to make it

clear that i don't know why i called to wanted to make this specific which restriction he became w.b. champion at one hundred fifty four pounds and should defend his title within the same weight limits otherwise it should go down to will to eat. now every balun is afoot in town it's rough on the dollar and the top players demanding that the back to sky deal in the has to change attention becoming clear during the recent davis cup semifinals now dull particularly vocal about having to play his cup tie for spain against brawls just days after losing in the us open final while world number one mobile joke of it was forced to withdraw from his serbian team clash against argentina's hamas in the cultural last weekend to injury and meeting with a.t.p. and i t f michel's over the issue will take place in shanghai next month. and to russian for both finally where week twenty four solzhenitsyn pittsburgh move top of the

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my fake tears from ramallah where palestinians are taking to the streets from across the west bank to show support for the euro leader's bid to win u.n. recognition. the u.s. is accused of encouraging the arab spring to achieve its own interests even though it sacrifies a position of its closest ally israel leaving it isolated. an international team of inspectors see as progress in talks with greece while the i.m.f. warns the global economy is in a perilous state. plus in business russia's two main forces are stuck closer to foreign allies in their multibillion dollar merger we have all the details and business in twenty minutes.