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world's eyes are on israel we spoke with a former head of the israeli secret services ami ayalon who thinks the solution to peace in the region does exist he shares his insights in the interview coming up. with me i have been on an israeli politician and the former head of the bit the israeli secret service thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. for several years now you've advocated a two state solution between israelis and palestinians do you see the palestinian bid at the united nations as a step in the star action i'm not sure i think that. what would be the scenario that we should see in the next future there is the scenario immediately of to occur you know for public admission. probably the international community will create such a pressure of the breed of these sides to negotiate on the streets probably it will
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be a step on the road to two to two state solution yossi beilin a form it depicts israeli foreign affairs minister has said that if as well did it at most to connote peace the country wouldn't find itself in the position it is today with the palestinians appealing to be united nations for statehood do you think israel has done enough to promote peace. look i hate to you know to blame ourselves for everything i see that if you ask me i prefer the betrayal for the stability of our responsibility it doesn't mean other players international community america or europe or palestinians. you know every. right i sing that yes we. could do much more
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what we know with the. reality of two states look if we go. not many years we built a fence the security fence the idea was to give security to the israeli people. in a way we succeeded. but with our roads any intention we created the reality of two states and i sings that when we see on the reality today on the route of the fence is not the root of our greed future borders. but this is something that we can use in order to create reality of two states we can pass within one week. the law of compensating exhaust settlers who are living on the eastern side of the fence and wish to return without creating any physical pressure on those on the also close who doesn't want to return unless in the future
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we shall live agreement with the palestinians so why doesn't israeli prime minister netanyahu do that is the answer as simple as the fact that he needs a coalition to stay in power look the mystic politics is always. some role in the solutions of every political leader in every democracy it is not new i want to add something more i think that especially for the international community and international audience i see that most people around the world does not understand . how difficult it is for the israelis. look i think that it is much more difficult in totally different from. any any peace agreement that we had with jordan or egypt or if in the future we should have. a political or
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a peace agreement with syria. we's jordan syria and egypt. it is peace between two states. with the palestinians it is a kind of existential conflict we in order to sign an agreement was a palestinians we have to touch xemu sensitive nerves of our existence you. you know we have after sixty seventy or one hundred years of zionism to ask ourselves or to deal with the issue of jerusalem. of settlements of refugees off right of return not only on security. it is very very difficult because it goes back into questions of who we are why we are sitting here and not
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in america in europe or somewhere in africa and i have to explain you some seeing you know that i see that people is a walled tend to forget that the whole idea of sameness is a beginning was a very simple concept when it came to a political terms the future borders of the state of israel will be where ever we can build a settlement. and defend ourselves why don't israelis embrace what some see as a real opportunity for peace when the palestinians declare a state most israelis to do does not feel secure. they look around us and they see instability and they see through it they see in security this is a where we translate we understand. what we see around us in the middle east
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whether it is what we see in iran or in syria or egypt or in the i don't know what will happen tomorrow in jordan or in saudi arabia is there anything of real substance for the palestinians in the u.n. appeal or is it more of their public relations effort it will change the perception of the international community probably feel beaten sleeted to sanctions economic at their music. diplomatic sanctions but it will change the perception of people is a region of the stimulants muslim arabs. in our neighboring countries. a seeing that we have practically to understand that the daily will be totally different and how will israel react a day later. i have no idea first of all. most israelis will see that.
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seems that. we shall have to see what will happen and. what will be the palestinian reaction the vote is seen by many not only as a vote of sympathy with the palestinians but also as a barometer of discontent with the israeli government in your opinion what should the israeli government do with the roughly half a million israelis that live in settlements kept and who does not know where you want to say that there is no wind on earth that would bring in them it is true not only of. so i think that we have to jump ahead. to try to describe the idea of two states. practically a seems that in order to create this reality of two states in the future we shall have to bring most of the surplus. to is that. we have to agree on sixty seven borders we swap equal swap based on
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parameters of demography security and contiguity. we have to draw a very very clear red line palestinian refugees shall return only to the future state of palestine and jews should return only to the to the state of israel. really comes of security. in the international community showgirl. safety independent whenever i see that. we have to create our strategy we have to announce that we. will be the parameters for the future political agreement why has the israeli international campaign against the un but failed especially when it was just a few months ago when israel seemed internationally to win the fight against
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stopping the second for to live attempt to break the blockade on gaza that most israelis do not understand. is a war that we are fighting with it seems that we are acting behaving as if we are fighting a conventional war with north of the sphere and that we are fighting a symmetry war which is totally different and what we are doing we are winning everybody and we are losing the war in light of what happened with egypt and in light of what's happened with turkey and now in light of what will happen at the united nations do israelis since the growing isolation that they have in the international community one of the huge mistakes. that we are doing. we do not see. not the original and not the international
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consequences or results of of the new reality or the new middle east. that was born during the last twelve months. for example we do not understand zuroff of turkey in this new middle east we do not understand that the collapse of egypt is a regional player. created a situation in which turkey is a regional player and probably is a corner store of the american strategy and diplomacy in the middle east create a situation in which it is a major interest of america. to empower turkey as the middle east becomes more unstable who benefits. from the extremist players in the middle east benefit from curious. whether it is elkader are
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how masts other a very extreme groups i think that pragmatic players are losing and this is why it is so important to try to create a pragmatic free more broad mattick axis of players what can bring peace to the region beasts will not come. with. no hope. if people will not believe that you do that shiva but. is there another cheat. so the question should be what should be do what should be do or what can we do in order to create top mistiming i don't thank you very much for joining us. thank you very much.
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with. the. very first verses of the bible to all human beings are created but sentimental came in god's
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image and it doesn't say just jews or non jews. sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a common soldier territories listen to us deter doing what we call making our presence felt to go out should somebody so they hear a knock on some doors from to the other corner and they don't know the. religion and nationalism not to students whom have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. plug the few one. thousand four hundred people in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect until feet you have to be either extremely naive for extremists to. hear a religious jew calling another jew and not the way they really know that.
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thousands of jubilant palestinians for on to the west bank streets in support of a bid for statehood at the u.n. government services and schools were closed so people could participate in the demonstrations. standoff over palestinian sovereignty brewing at the un general assembly support for palestine could clash with the veto wielding the us which is pushing for a relaunch of peace talks between israelis and palestinians. eurozone teeters under its rapidly piling debts with greece trying to speed up cuts before european commission inspectors to set the i.m.f. meanwhile warning global finances are now more vulnerable at any point since two thousand and eight more on these stories at the top of the hour first though unions up with the latest sports news.
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thanks for joining us this is sports today on the stories. on the hits just keep coming spartak moscow striker well he received further punishment for yet another game collision just weeks after this tackle on c.s. . goalkeeper can feel. rolling back the years michael bags a brace against leeds in the carling cup as month chester united extend their unbeaten start to the season. moments that matter we cast our eye over the key episodes from week twenty four in the russian premier league two to a contender for goal of the month. but let's start out the rugby world cup were just the sole game was done for consideration on whedon's they seeing off a spirited japanese are that true core their first win of the tournament. but their
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day one defeat to host signal well and truly behind them and no one go away but responded to each of two tries in the first half to me just five points between the sides the break the fitness all the tongans would tell in the end though comfortably securing a thirteen point three their first win of the campaign after three attempts. who won more games. i'm especially begins with teams like. which is number four in the womb but. i'm sure. it was going to take the moments weeks before the game we felt that we knew what tone they were going to do and we have. had all the tools to. carry. too many turnovers from ruck pressure so obviously we're disappointed. brings us to football. and has hit the headlines again the brazilian was suspended following
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a dangerous challenge in a russian premier league match some week spike and now the same thing has happened in the reserve game fixture the twice top goal scorer in russia received a three match ban for this moscow goalkeeper eagle rock and fate of last month got the same punishment for a high challenge on another shot stopper. alexey fyodorovitch. top tier suspension ends in a fortnight's time with the russian cup the only competition he can play and on till there. that brings us to be italian gamer gian piero guess perini has been sacked as manager of venter after only five games in charge that milan sides lost to new boyce nevada last night seemingly the last straw the former genoa boss losing four of those five games leaving enter a language and seventeenth place in the league jury also lost the italian super cup
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the city rivals milan last month the eating time serbia champions will not a surcharge a fourth manager since the departure of juice in marine you last month last year me being a replacement for leonardo who moved to p.s.g. . manchester united have continued on there are superb start to the new season the red devils latest success coming in the league cup against old fool with leeds united michael owen instrumental in what was his first appearance for the squad this season the thirty one year old striker schilling in the fifteenth minute his instincts for finding the net help and build his own united second was a beauty as well letting rip into the top one corner for two no right after the half hour mark another veteran ryan giggs didn't let his former liverpool rival steal the show altogether though in his side's third with a brilliant solo effort. how it ended up you know i did the work courtesy of their
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seventy eight. and all chelsea who were comprehensively beaten by united last weekend in the league take on folding tonight. but watch fielding younger line up for the carling cup clash but it's in the middle that's on his mind. and happy with . the result. because it's his. first. first you know. before of time plays an important part and you expect. your. hard work on more hard work in essence was the advice of maria sharapova during a tennis trick in taiwan today three time grand slam champion. is from rio
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also in asia chicken paid up the pump pacific open in tokyo this weekend it's not a process where you just go to sleep you wake up and all of a sudden you're a champion and it takes a lot of a lot of years and a great team around you you know from fundamentals to learning how to play you know developing your skills during matches to transitioning to playing against you know professional athletes oppression tennis players it's a step by step process and this is my passion and that's what i love to do and that's what i've been doing since i'm six years old but. so many things that you can do of course in got involved with charity when i really wanted to do something back home in my own country because. those sick kids never get help from anyone. that brings us to boxing where the continent continues to one of the most anticipated bites of the year miguel cotto margarito busy fitting in as much
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pre-match hype possible ahead of their december third clash champion kauto putting his super light middleweight crying on the line against the only man to ever defeat him margarito himself using the latest press conference to voice his thoughts on the new weight restrictions imposed on the fight the mexican stating that cotton was insistence on cutting the limit is something he finds very strange indeed. also i want to make it clear that i don't know why i called to wanted to make this specific which restriction he became w.b. a champion at a hundred and fifty pounds i should defend his time still within the same weight limits otherwise i could should go down too well to wait. until we return to football finally we're a week twenty four in the russian premier league so it's a neat simpy to move top of the table finally after months of trailing c.s.k. moscow that's key development just one of the highlights from the weekend that what's. i'm such
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president obama sets up a standoff at the un general assembly with sovereignty seeking palestinians set to clash with a veto holding us despite overwhelming international support plus. banging the drum for a new nation thousands of palestinians pour into the streets of the west bank supporting a bid for statehood at the u.n. . on having the palestinians no way these jube an end to any punishment on the street as people celebrate this historic occasion join me in a few moments and i'll bring you more. in the eurozone teeter is under the weight of its debts with greece trying to speed up cuts and the i.m.f. warning a new recession could be looming.

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