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old freeboard you are loading video for your media drug screen real guns are cheat on tom. welcome back you're watching r t here's a look at the top stories protel as seen in demonstrations ripple and spread across the world ahead of the bid for statehood as the u.n. even as barack obama personally vows to veal anywhere evolution recognizing a free palestinian state. scores of policemen and passers by are injured in powerful twin blasts near a regional police have quaters in the capital of russian republic of dagestan two devices went off with the moments of each other both were believed to have been planted underneath parked cars. death row pardon not granted to troy davis is executed in the u.s.
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state of georgia after his final appeal was rejected by the supreme court that's despite questionable evidence and widespread protests in his or. al-jazeera as director general resigns due to rumors he has lengths to the cia critics say that explains the switching u.s. attitude towards the qatar based news network and. we'll stay with our top story al good off and he's guest assess palestine's chances of becoming a new member of the u.n. that's a spotlight coming right out. if
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. oh yeah no walking through the interview fell on hard saying i'm now we're not and today our spotlight is on the middle east palestinian president mahmoud abbas has a hard time in a vicious diplomatic campaign seeking only fledged. israel with the u.s. support of course is resisting saying such a move will hamper peace talks with the palestinians all the other hand abbas insists his people do have a right to be fully represented in the u.n.
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itself just palestine really have the chops to become the one hundred ninety five member of the united nations and what's made it mean for the rest of the middle east we're asking professor he knows of a gas from the institute of oriental studies of the russian academy of science to. israel warns the current situation in the middle east will likely be upset if they do and recognizes palestine as a member state jerusalem here's our support granted some of what abbas and his people need very the peace process once and for all and spark more conflict in the region. are you recognition is vital for the protection of that territory from israeli expansion. although the jewish state is backed by the us palestine has a number of powerful allies two one of them is turkey which turned against israel after its military killed nine turks in the gaza flotilla last year.
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you know welcome to the show thank you thank you very much for being. with. cosima did the joint join the u.n. remember when. one thousand nine hundred eighty nine israel itself. that was joining the un its arguments was that the issues about the refugees the refugee problem and also the status of jerusalem will be will be solved easier if israel becomes a member of the united nations today these are exactly the are you concerned with i was thin so what what do israel the united states what are the arguments against. as for his for all its arguments against quite understandable i would say because from the point of view of the leadership i mean this greatest present leadership
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and while it will be much more difficult to resist the pressure on the part of muslim countries i mean the united nations members too and it would mean that israel would be regarded as a power work which occupies territory of an independent state you know right now in israel they call this the territorial dispute disputed territories then it would be territories of the recognized independent state and this is very important second. if recognized by the united nations the palestinian state will have a chance to join different international organizations and also through a course in the international court so again this is against israeli interests so it's quite understandable that israel is again as far as they notice this is
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concerned i believe that. mr obama is now in the rather awkward position because on the one hand if you remember it was the president who wanted to make relationship with the muslim world much better and he was really trying to improve and he promised reset yes and then only with moscow a lot of the going out of all the remember his peril speech which was live and catered to the relationship with the muslim world so it means that well from this point of view he has the support of the big of the palestinians but i'm afraid he cannot do it he simply cannot do it not only because he depends so much on his electorate in the united states and you know. that innocence is entering an election year but also because to spoil relations with israel so much would be very much counterproductive so that is why i say he would prefer to
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do everything possible to restart negotiations and to stop this big fought for independence well let's go back to the palestinian villages and. a few years ago the worst. had no problems in recognizing possible as an independent state though the whole world recognized kosovo was part of serbia and within the recognized borders palestine was never of the nice part of israel and for fifty years it has been promised independence so so so so so what are the arguments or is it just pure double standards that we are facing in and that world rests roughen and nobody's even denying the existence of is that double standards while on the one planet international politics is made of double standards and everybody nods but all the other hand the situation here is that backcross away really away i believe that
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world forced because if you remember this situation for one month for the last that. actually the division of of serbia and the creation of where muslim man play for europe was in the best interests of many western states here i would see such a very very intriguing interest come concerning palestine but again there are other players which are also very much important and right now lively but probably not so much western europe which is not has not yet decided some countries as you know from from the european union has not yet decided whether they will vote on not whether it's less is it i think what batteries i'm sorry is the position of the security council members u.k. germany and france also. have been made them made up their mind but. i don't
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i don't know about germany and i never i never read anything but as far as france is concerned probably not because for for france a relationship with the muslim world is of importance i can't begin taking into consideration it's the message but even france or world somebody else maybe germany will britain will be in favor of the palestinian membership what difference does it make if america can always use its veto power and said it will use its veto power well i believe that it will make a difference for those countries only who will decide to support the palestinian independence but if the palestinians want real recognition i believe they can only be recognized as portrayed by the journalist. so it's a good way out for them let's say cool but different angle we already talked about
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the possible influence of the middle east situation the united states image over now let's talk about the images. the worst in general in the arab world in the arab street because this is very important the the the psychic of the arab street as far as i understood from from what you wrote and people like experts wrote after the after the worst support it the anti conducting. movement in libya the reputation of the west has risen to a world record high on the arab streets may change today or tomorrow in case the west will not support palestinian bid to go down to hell it can go down because the sentence in the absence easily changed. and they're very emotional and when we are talking about the motions not rational then it means
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there are plenty unfavorable move on their part of the west can bring. image of the west that obstruct you. said about about his history election interest will certainly the votes of the of the israel community was left to our very important for the present maybe they are even more important than the future of the middle east but do we have a chance that the first couple of years of the second term is office and office these will be the years when a barrel may fulfill his his promises that in their very late four years ago if you. want the president has a second term he can use it much more forcefully as much as the first two years especially because after that nobody could learn from above the region we.
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gave more freehand to too many presidents who really cared for them either. so it is possible if someone is reelected he. will have a chance to move or not paying punch attention to the president will not be in this thing and all the other factors which probably right now preclude his free movement in the middle do you think you will. feel personal feeling about that his intention since personality is he is in favor of a fair settlement in the middle east or were his pro pro israeli. sentiment is stronger now i wouldn't call it either ploy or of what the israeli side let's pragmatism come from this point of view for the. very important. good relations with with the middle east with. iran and with muslim countries i
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believe it's a priority and that is why mr obama will have to take into consideration not so much probably the sentiments of the arab street but the sentiments of the arab rulers who are still in place i mean this year or last year he kind of the last year we witnessed. there. actually the replacement of of many western province and that is why mr obama will have to think twice what will you say reestablish good relations with israel and other countries are going to get but this is the big single year as well but the truth israel is pretty smart for many many years israel acts. like.
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a young. during the honeymoon she says it's not only your others it's either me or . all the other risks and it makes me watching them make make a choice isn't it. actually we're not discussing. the relationship between the united states and this film because it's a very very sensitive and a very complicated relationship but there comes. from the very beginning. and the jewish community in the not just the special feelings for israel and among them there was a very strong feeling for during the war you can be holocaust not just once again and make enough. to save european jews says professor remain as they get scanned from the institute of religious studies of the russian academy of science in the spotlight we'll be back shortly after a break so stay with us don't go. to. my
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welcome back to spotlight i'm algren org and just a reminder to my guest on the show today is even as i guess she's a professor from the institute of very ental studies of the russian academy of sciences arena we've been talking about the role of the united states in the current situation in the middle east well definitely the braca baron the administration today. is no longer seen as known as drucker on the situation maybe you'll have to wait as you mentioned. about his relapse and then the next two years maybe maybe this will go back but what in the meanwhile may be the nadya's room a full the nisha of being a medicare in the process a country or region or maybe an organization i believe all of the quarter.
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intensely you it's functions much more active because the united states and we'll just go this way. and that is why you need support first of all from those who were in one tea with me in the north who. has been pretty passive over the last years in the middle east well it was it was using all the separate while just to try to keep the status quo in the middle east do you think that. if if the attention of washing for womb drifting away from the release may become we're back to moscow only become more active if not becoming a mediator or at least becoming once again a major player in the game itself ransome well russia is again is a player in the game because russia is a member in the quarter it's personal that it was his palace and not feel for
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a second person has been doing something important for example russia really encourage this conciliation between us which i believe is very important if we are to bring about peace talks but at the same time i would not over exaggerate the chances of russia to become a single mediator or to become a most active maybe i will think it's realistic right. because we have a lot of all things to think about but everybody has a case against and still i believe will have a lot of problems. in in the near broad you have a lot of problems in our own country and while we still pay attention to what's going on in the middle east then it is also important for us still in that the middle east is a priority ok now still we you said middle east is not
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a priority back russia has been pretty obvious in supporting bush or us it in in syria and if the west's worsens and so he can have his worth. brought more prestige in diplomacy people are saying that they have the support of bashar assad in syria is doing hard for russia's prestige in the region is it true i'm not sure i'm not sure we're all first of all i will say the situation in syria is not complicated and the situation in libya is not so obvious it's absolutely obvious because in libya we have tribes and you know what sometimes i'm afraid that the leaders of this tribes can be brought to us for syria here we have interests of iran here we have direct interests of iraq we have controversies between shy. sweet so this.
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is rarely volcanoes and if there isn't an external support for this of that forces i'm afraid. there will be a careless which will involve other powers in the region so from the point of view of russia it's very important to preclude any in them from interference. in syrian affairs of though of course we have our own interests in syria not going to deny as a professional base. and also on we have a very productive relationship of the military industrial complex with syria everybody knows it but very very position is not thought to keep all those contracts because nobody knows whether they will be kept if new people will come to power but what is important to stop any thought of any aggression of any intervention in syria this is
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a. brush era so do you think how long do you think he will. see in power and may he use the. let's put this way may he use the situation that all started to say about this track the attention of the international community away from the problems of his can no. you can use it because he is the nest of problems that are very obvious to everyone. the problem with most of us and from my point of view is that he's always late he helped introduce reforms and he had to do something and it's a little bit strange because he's in more than ours. i'm afraid. i don't know how long he wants a life political. everything beyond this is a lot in the hands of our law but you know still. from my point of view right now he doesn't have many chances because he has to move more decisively.
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to oppose. us so the u.s. could as he put it an enormous pressure on the palestinian leadership to convince it to drop its bid for the u.n. membership but in vain so do you think that now proposing is really pushed by the israeli enviro the states whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa this is what i wanted to ask you is it possible while probably. leaders of israel first of all minister of foreign affairs minister didn't want their thinking of some punishment and he was talking about that quite well probably but just a little lieberman is a special feeling as for those people who are much more sober and who are much more pragmatic i don't think they would be thinking in these terms on the contrary for
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example simply leave me. as you have a member they are very very chair. of the country my party and who wouldn't mind to join coalition headed by nita only if one said to me years they will change their roles but you know she believes that probably this is a push to restart negotiations and she's expecting from the who is new york to do whatever he can to restart negotiations with it because only negotiations can save some heart as they believe from. the doric of nine's independence. israel is facing growing isolation in the middle east and the spotlight had three. turkey had been one of the israel's most reliable partners for decades positive relations started in one thousand nine hundred ninety one turkey became the first muslim country to recognize the state of
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israel just five years ago this friendly foreign ministry described drew ations with turkey as perfect things started to turn sour as turkey became more vocal and its criticism of israel school see who wants the palestinians relations became particularly strained for when the gaza food to raid in may of two thousand and ten for food caring humanitarian aid tried to break through these friendly sea blockade of the gaza street israel's navy raided the ships killing nine turkish citizens pay you one report published in september blamed both sides for the violence tell of the for a few still a call it jives for the deaths of turkish citizens and then carol recorded some bastard. the ousting of president mubarak in egypt has caused the shop deterioration in the israel's relationship with not a key partner in the region the situation heat
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a new low in northwest after israeli forces responding to a cross border militant attack mistakenly killed five egyptian police officers teachers this role saying it's not being flexible enough in responding to the changes going on in the middle east and north africa despite being more isolated still of this continues to act as if the only who would it was still in place is unwilling to compromise owning up its decision. some observers today say that the long term israel palestine is dead but on the other hand when the after the hour after the arab spring. the mood of the israeli society in these roadside has been changing people flocked to the streets with an sorry and right wing demonstration so does that mean that we've been literal itself the society is becoming less sharman mystic and more ready for
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a dialogue with the post or is that wishful thinking. you know the say the whole society in this or a list of interesting it's not that there is not a substantial and influential part of a society which believes that negotiations with a point with the palestinians is a must for israel first because israel wants to preserve its democratic character and occupation it's next to impossible so can the causes of what wants to preserve its jewish character with the palestinian population which is not an ecstatic event which live side by side with business and israelis it's also next to impossible so people out of pure pragmatism. insisting that the government should as human emotions with the palestinians should turn this page. and list but as you know the
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manifestations which she mentions mentioned they were mostly cause not. foreign relations affairs for israel or dynastic reasons because these were social upheavals and people were demanding of meaning nor prices for their flats. they couldn't buy now cannot buy now if less intelligent than another i think it's too expensive. especially young people and it was very well organized and i will say that they showed once again that in this little there is a very strong civil society thank you thank you very much for being willing. and just to remind that my guest on the show was a professor he knows and i guess grant from the institute for him to study the russian gathering of science news that's been out from all its hard life will be back with more calls than comment on the ones going on in the end topside russia until then stay on card see and take. this is just.
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