it without the laughter moscow the headlines now just a patient in the west bank turns to anger as the upcoming palestinian bid for statehood at the u.n. looks like falling short of this with the us president of. the move summit speculation the american and palestinian leaders have already struck a watered down option. world markets fall following a gloomy assessment of america's economic prospects by the u.s. federal reserve fresh wave of austerity cuts mass protests and strikes in debt ridden greece. and an old not so subtle ideas plunging towards it with hundreds of

fragments expected to come crashing down but u.s. of scientists still have no idea where russian experts warn that could pose a serious danger to people's health. staying with our top story here on r.t. going off on his guest palestine's chance of becoming a new member of the u.n. spotlight is now. the welcome to the interview on tarts t.v. i'm now we're not in for they our spotlight is on the middle east palestinian president mahmoud abbas has a hard time in

a vicious diplomatic campaign seeking fully fledged. israel with the u.s. support of course is resisting saying such a move will hamper peace starts with the palestinians the other hand abbas insists his people do have a right to be fully represented in the u.n. itself just palestine really have a trucks to become the one hundred ninety five member part of the united nations and what's made it mean for the rest of the middle east we're asking professor eating those of a gas from the institute of oriental studies of the russian academy of science. in israel warns the current situation i mean least will likely be upset if they do add everything and isis palestine as a member state jerusalem here's a supporter granted what abbas and his people need bury the peace process once and for all and spark more conflict in the region the palestinians argue remission is

vital for the protection of their territory from israeli expansion. although the jewish state is backed by the us palestine has a number of powerful allies to one of them is turkey which turned against israel after its military killed nine turks in the gaza flotilla last year. you know welcome to the show thank you thank you very much for being with us. let's start with. the colosseum the did the joint join the u.n. remember that when. nineteen forty nine israel itself. was joining the un its arguments was that the issues the refugees the refugee problem and also the status of jerusalem will be will be solved easier if israel becomes a member of the united nations today these are exactly the occupants of that i was thin so what what do israel the united states what are the arguments against.

as for israel it's arguments against quite understandable i would think because from the point of view of the israeli leadership i mean this rightist present leadership it will be much more difficult to resist the pressure on the part of muslim countries i mean the united nations members too and it would mean that israel would be regarded as a power work which occupies territory of an independent state you know right now in israel they call this the territorial dispute territories then it would be territories of the recognized independent state and this is very important second. different cognized by the united nations the palestinian state will have a chance to join different international organizations and also to

put it cause in the international court so again this is against israeli interests so it's quite understandable that he's a little is again as far as the you know distances concerned what i believe that. mr garma is now in the rather awkward position because on the one hand if you remember he was the president who wanted to make relationship with the muslim world much better and he was really trying to improve and he promised reset if not the only way the mosque a lot of the you know of all remember his pharaoh speech which was dedicated to the relationship with the muslim world so it means that while from base point of view he has to support the bid of the palestinians but i'm afraid he cannot do it simply cannot do it not only because he depends so much on his electorate in the united

states and you know. that innocence is entering an election year but also because to spoil relations with israel so much would be very much counterproductive all that is why i say that he would prefer to. everything possible to restart negotiations and to stop this big fought for that well let's go back to the palestinian villages and. a few years ago the worst. problems in recognizing possible as an independent state though the whole world recognized kosovo was part of syria and within internationally recognized borders palestine was never a nice part of israel and for fifty years it has been promised independence so so so so so what are the arguments or is it just pure double standards that we're facing in and that well the best seraph and nobody's even denying the existence of

these devil standers while on the one can't international politics is made of them and everybody knows but all the other hand the situation here doesn't resemble course the way really a way i believe that's what forced because if you remember the situation in kosovo a month for the worst that. actually. the division of of serve there and the creation of where muslim enclave in europe was in the best interest of many western states here i would see such a very very intriguing interest concerning palestine but again there are other players which are also very much important and right now live lives that probably not so much western europe which is what has not yet

decided some countries as you know from from the european union has not yet decided whether they will vote on not what. i think would batteries i'm sorry is the position of the screws a council member is u.k. germany and france what's that. have been made them made up their mind well. i don't i don't know about germany and i never i never read anything but as far as france is concerned probably not because for france or relationship with the muslim world is of prime importance can again thinking into consideration it's the mystics but even from somebody else maybe germany will be britain will be in favor of of the palestinian membership what difference does it make if america can always use its veto power and said it will use its veto over what i believe that it will make a difference for those countries only who will decide to support the palestinian

independence but if the palestinians want recognition i believe they can all be recognised as portrayed by their genitals. so it's a good way out for them let's take a little bit different angle we've already talked about the possible influence so the middle east situation and the united states' image of a. the stock where the public image. the worst in general in the arab world in the arab street because this is very important the the the psychic of the arab street as far as i understood from from what you wrote and people like you say experts wrote after the after the worst supported the anti kadafi. movement in libya the reputation of the west has risen to a well to record high on the arab streets may change today or tomorrow in case

the west will not support palestinian bid big oil down to one it can go down because the sentence in there it's easily changed. and they're very emotional. we are talking about the motions not rational then it means that any unfavorable move on the part of the west can bring. image of the west the arab street you. said about about his his pre-election interest will certainly the votes of the the israeli community was left are very important for the president's maybe they are even more important than the future of the middle east what do you have a chance that the first couple of years of the second term is office in office these will be the years when a barrier may fulfill his his promises that in that very minute four years ago.

when the president has a second term he can use it much more forcefully especially the first two years especially because after that nobody put him from above the region. the second term gave more freehand due to too many presidents who really cared for them either. so it is possible if i won my is reelected he. will have a chance to move not playing by ship then some through the process runyan or be a mystery to all other factors which probably right now preclude his free movement in the middle do you think it will work what's your personal feeling about about his intention since personality is he is he in favor of a fair settlement in the middle east or were his pro pro israeli.

sentiment is a strong well i would call it the other ploy of what boys around assad that's pragmatism and from this point of view for the united states it's very important to establish good relations with with the middle east with the. arab and with other muslim countries i believe it's a priority and that is why mr amano will have to take into consideration not so much probably the sentiments of the arab street but the sentiments of the arab rulers who are still in place i mean this year or last year and of the last year we were. there they're. actually the replacement of of many western balls and that is why mr obama will have to think twice what will you say reestablish good relations

with israel and other countries are going through but this is the average single year is a good truce israel is pretty smart for many many years israel acts like like. a young widgery you doing the honeymoon she says no no it's not me only your other is it's either me or. all the other risks and it makes me watching to make make a choice isn't it. actually we're not discussing it here. in the united states and israel because it's a very very sensitive and very complicated relationship but i can see that from the very beginning. and. jewish community in the not just the special feelings for israel and but and now of them there was a very strong feeling that during the war during the holocaust the united states.

make enough to try to save european jews says professor irina's very good scare from the institute of oriental studies of the russian academy of sciences spotlight will be back shortly after the break so stay with us they'll go to my. my . wealthy british scientists scientists time to. market why not. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy

with mike's cars or there are no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars a report on our feet. we'll. bring you the latest in science and technology from around russia. we've dumped the future of coverage. welcome back to spotlight i am al green of in just a reminder my guest on the show today is a guess he's a professor from the institute of marine studies of the russian academy of sciences reno we've been talking about the role of the united states in the current situation in the middle east well definitely the brackenbury madness tracing today . is no longer seen as known as drucker and the

situation maybe we'll have to wait as you mentioned. if obama israel had said that the next two years maybe maybe this road will go back but in the meanwhile who may be the mediator who may feel the need should be ready here in the process a country or region or maybe an organization i believe only the quarter the quartet closely you its functions much more active because the united states along just cannot go this way. and that is why you need support first of all from those who work in one team with. me in the quarter. has been pretty passive over the last years in the middle east there were well it was it was using all the separate will just to to to keep the status quo in the middle east do you think that. if if the attention of washington would be removed

drifting away from the release may become more active moscow may become more active if not becoming a mediator or at least becoming once again a major player in the game is a principle well russia is a game is a play in the game because russia is a member of the quarter personal that it was his past few. years been doing something important for example russia really encourage this conciliation between the months up we. i believe this is very important if we are to bring about peace talks but at the same time i would not over exaggerate the chances of russia to become a single mediator or to become a most that if i don't think it's realistic why why because we have all of all things to think about everybody has faced against constant i believe all have

a lot of problems. in the new iraq we have a lot of problems in our own country and while we still pay attention to what's going on in the middle east than it is also important for us still i think that the middle east is a priority for us ok now still we you know you said middle east is not a priority but russia has been pretty obvious in supporting brush us in the in syria and if the west's worst antartica of his words. brought more prestige in diplomacy people are saying that this support of the shares in syria is doing harm for russia's prestige in the region is it true i'm not sure i'm not sure first of all i will say the situation in syria is not what complicated then the situation in libya is not so obvious it's absolutely obvious

because in libya we have tribes and you know well sometimes i'm afraid that the leaders of the strides can be brought to us for syria here we have interests of iran here we have developed interests of iraq we. come from vs between shiite. sunni so this ignition in syria is rarely volcano's and if there is an external support for this of their forces i'm afraid. there will be care which will involve other part was in the region so from the point of view of russia it's very important to preclude any interference in syrian affairs vo of all that we have our only interest in syria nobody denies it with russian base. and also we have a very productive relationship of the military industrial complex with syria everybody

knows it but very very position it is not thought to keep all this conference because nobody knows whether they will be captive come to power but what is important to stop any thought of any aggression of any intervention in syria this is a. what about bashar assad do you think how long do you think he will. see in power and may he use but let's put it this way may he use the situation to palestine to sort out this track the attention of the international community away from the problems of his cannot so you can use it because his domestic problems are very obvious to everyone and. the problem with musharraf's from my point of view that he is always late he helped introduce reforms so much he had to do something

and it's a little bit strange because he is a young more than ours. i'm afraid. i don't know how long he won't survive politically. everything the others and the law in the hands of our law but you know still. from my point of view right now he doesn't have many chances because he has to move more decisive. back to oppose. us said the u.s. . as he put it an enormous pressure on the palestine leadership to convince him to drop its bid for the un membership but in vain so do you think that now proposing is really punished by the israeli and by the states whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa this is what i wanted to ask you is it possible while probably. leaders of

israel first of all minister of foreign affairs wants to do but what they're thinking of some punishment and he was talking about that quite openly what mr libby is especially asked for those people much more sober and who are much more pragmatic i don't think they will be thinking in this terms on the contrary for example simply leaving me pensive remember where their chair of of the party and who wouldn't mind to join coalition headed by newton only if one said to me years they will change their roles but you know she believes that probably this is the push to restart negotiations and she's expecting for a new plan or is new york to do whatever he can to restart negotiations with it because only negotiations can save some heart as they believe from.

the. recognize independence. israel is facing growing isolation in the middle east and the spotlight give me the right as for a. turkey had been one of israel's most reliable partners for decades positive for a way since started in one nine hundred forty nine when turkey became the first muslim country to recognize the state of israel just five years ago israeli foreign ministry described drew ations with turkey as perfect things started to turn sour as turkey became more vocal and its criticism of israel school was see the what's the palestinians relations became particular restraint for when the gaza flotilla raid in may of two thousand and ten the food carrying humanitarian aid tried to break through these friendly sea blockade of the gaza strip israel's navy raided the ships killing nine turkish citizens and you one report published in september

blamed both sides for the violence tell of the first fuse to apologize for the deaths of the turkish citizens and then kyra reported some bastard of the ousting of president mubarak in egypt the schools the shop deterioration in these rules for relationships with not the key partner in the region the situation he's been you noticed after israeli forces responding to a cross border militant attack mistakenly killed five egyptian police officers egypt israel saying it's not being flexible enough responding to the changes going on in the middle east and north africa despite being more isolated still of this continues to act as if people knew what it was even quite he's unwilling to compromise owning up its decision. some observers today say. long term israel palestine is dead but on the other hand

remember after the hour after the arab spring. the mood of the israeli society in this process has been changing people flocked to the streets with an sorry right wing demonstration so does that mean that may be in israel self the society is becoming less shamanistic and more ready for a dialogue with the pros or is that wishful thinking. you know i would say that the whole society in this for this shoving it's not real there is quite a substantial and influential part of a society which believes that negotiations with the point with the palestinians is a must for israel first because israel wants to preserve its democrats of character and occupation it's next to impossible to second because israel what it wants to preserve its jewish character and with the palestinian population which is not

the next directly but which live side by side with this is the israelis it's also next to impossible so these people all drop your pragmatism. insisting that these are government should reveal emotions with the palestinians and should turn the page and list. but. as though the manifestations which she mentions mentioned they were mostly because not buying foreign relations are files for israel or domestic reasons because these were social upheavals and people were demanding of a lot prices for their flats that they couldn't buy now cannot buy now if let's move on another sieges is still expensive and especially especially young people and it was a very well organized and i will say that it showed once again that and those are

all there is a very strong civil society thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind that my guest on the show was a professor even as we get scale from the institute on oriental study the russian catting of science that's been out from all over the top like that with more uncommon tonawanda going on in and outside russia and so when they are artsy and take. this is. my. gut.