i listed in president mahmoud abbas his address met with a standing ovation at the united nations all in his bid for palestine statehood so asked past negotiations between israel and palestine have failed where will the showdown the. this is a situation where. it has become a combat zone if so who controls the after disclosures by wiki leaks al-jazeera has replaced its top news director so in this day and age how does the media then need to change its coverage to get him with this data department and the white house. plus as the world economy lies on the brink of possible collapse

a movement is offering some alternative ideas for society we'll take you up to their utopian way of life and sure that the u.s. project. good evening it's friday september twenty third five pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster and you're watching r.t. . as the sixty sixth general assembly continues at the united nations in new york clashes between israelis and palestinians in the west bank continue while back in new york palestinian leader mahmoud abbas has handed over a bid for membership to the united nations now this got a massive applause and standing ovation from delegations including egypt when

a boss took the podium at the u.n. g.a. earlier today take a listen. i outside our new york bureau just a few blocks away from that our producers could hear the chants of free palestine on the street as the speech wrapped up now the u.s. has said it will be to a boss's mood at the when if this goes to the security council we also heard from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu today at the u.n. saying that palestinians refused to negotiate meanwhile the middle east quartet of peace negotiators mediators is meeting it's all what on course for a crash collision like in the past well anastasio shows us exactly what that means . there are two main forces of noise in the big apple this week the traffic. and palestine's course which speed the us news we have been doing so create

almost sixty years but i don't mean our existence and stealing the homes from jerusalem of the palestinians taking control of a situation at a boiling point is the privilege of those with power but even the authority of the strongest can win. because those care and will take short cuts too loud whistles. and even standing ovation thank you are submitted to this accident scene mr ban ki moon on an application for the admission of palestine as if one member of the united nations. house i'm officially asked for recognition at the one through a security council vote ignoring america's repeated warning to veto to say after sixty three years of suffering often tragedy and mecca enough enough enough. thank you. it is time for the palestinian people to

gain their freedom and independence the time has come for one of the nobel peace prize winner for middle east efforts did all he could to prevent this from happening that american power is gone as a result of. last year we come back here next year we can have an agreement that will lead to a new member of the united nations an independent sovereign state of palestine living in peace with it this year because to me and seaview were stabbed in the back he has created a sense of lebanon among the palestinians the arabs even there was people of good conscience who expected obama to live up to his promises to his values and principles rather than to another sense and purpose obama's explanation one year ago. i stood at this podium and i called for an independent palestine but what i also said is that

a genuine peace can only be realized between the israelis and the palestinians themselves. house makes the story but the one america loses political points its diplomacy public helier and its ability to control diminished i know that many are frustrated by the lack of progress i assure you. one of the routes for obama's motorcade always remain open with so many other players affected by the traffic created there will always be the one that gets away. and the future of our team we'll. talk about this earlier i spoke with political scientist and author norman norman finkelstein in new york and also the president of the christians israel public action campaign richard hellman who was here and d c as negotiations between israel and palestine continue to stagnate i started off by asking richard

a simple question what's wrong with palestine going a different route in their quest for statehood at the u.n. here's what he had to say. well know one of analyze the underlying reasons why they failed president obama. any zeal to move the talks ahead where is eleven predecessors had been unable to do so effectively raise the bar so high that not only netanyahu government but no israeli government freely elected could say that the six hundred and fifty thousand jews who live in the areas that under the saudi or arab peace initiative are called occupied or contested that there could be no natural growth of settlements that meant that no one put in close a porch or. a room to their home for a new. newlywed couple or elderly parents coming home so that power was set so high that israel could not accept it for more than an interim period the first

ten months freeze on settlements and on the other hand the palestinian authority leaders have said we could not that is to say we couldn't let obama be more palestinian than us so they did and they can't come to talks without a complete phrase and it's a fact nothing yahoo had already killed what was left of the peace process before this it's very sad to say so but in that line the takeaway i'm hearing you say that this with president obama khan well he contributed to it but also the palestinian authority would not come in and carry into negotiations in good faith without preconditions as well as they had previously done and their predecessors including chairman yasser arafat had done for many years in fact there were plans complete plans presented by prime minister of iraq in two thousand and enjoy my camp david and later under olmert as i heard you barack i speak of last night olmert had a whole plan ready to go and the palestinian authority didn't accept it it was

virtually one hundred percent of what the palestinian authority was asked to write let me bring arm in that ok we can point fingers we can talk about this plan or backup plan negotiations have been going on for two decades they haven't worked and there's no arms it was a un resolution just how confident those things are right. the problem is not a new u.n. resolution the problem is that none of the old united nations resolutions the advisory opinion of the international court of justice and the consensus opinion of into the whole of humankind has been consistently ignored for the past thirty years there is no dispute whatsoever there is no controversy whatsoever on the terms for resolving the conflict israel has fully withdraws to the from the territories it occupied in june one hundred sixty seven there has to be mutual recognition between

the palestinian state and the whole of the left bank gaza and east jerusalem on the one side and the state of israel on the other side and there has to be a just resolution of the refugee question and the problem no adequate exactly let me just get in here because you know we're going through a lot of details but let's let's focus on just exactly what happened today should palestine be recognized as a state after you ryan. i think that prime minister abbas of president abbas today in his speech made a very clear case for why the united nations should now fulfill its mandate and also up sold international law by recognizing the post a new state in what is universally recognized as occupied palestinian territories that's all doubt the palestinians are asking that the law the

help and that is will is not given a free hand to continue occupying and expanding settlements illegally entire post a new territory ok let me return you're shaking your head why should i do it when recognize well i disagree completely unlike with you i think you'll recognize the analysis of what the law is because what article because there never can be let back in for salish time first there has never been a definition of what palestine is the israel occupies one portion of what was the palestine mandate coming out of the league of nations after world war one jordan became a state and israel gave away the whole sinai and they pulled out of lebanon and they pulled out of gaza and in each case what israel got in return was tens of thousands of rockets raining down on israel so that it was in the hands of the

leaders of the palestinian authority to create the virtually quibbling of monaco or or or the riviera because it's the same sea it's the same beautiful area instead they created with all due respect a hell hole for their own people with rockets raining on israel and one of the reasons why israel can't do this is because everything that is happening in the u.n. right now including what what our boss is asking for is contrary to security council resolution. two four two and three three eight in the oslo agreements all of which were agreed on in the past ok gentlemen what's happening here is something that so often happens when you talk to people on two sides of that issue no matter what the new news is no matter what is going on now you can never have a discussion about now because no one can answer a straight question about now everything will be back to a million different you know not only did i do the now to write it so that when iraq is there anything that you guys can agree on i don't know but you're anything

we're going to agree on but i let me go to richard but i but i can say that apart from whatever prime minister netanyahu or another israeli government thinks it might be able to agree upon no one is counting the cost that is to say if somehow these six hundred fifty thousand jews were all moved and ten percent of all the jewish israelis were moved out of where they live now with all their infrastructure and another six hundred fifty thousand or a million or moved in there's hundreds of billions of dollars of cost the united states and foreign aid and perhaps two divisions of u.s. troops they say nato troops richard so there's a vast consequences of this that nobody's looking at now is political scientist and author norman finkelstein and president of the christian israel public action campaign richard herman now all of the new israel and palestinian developments are happening on the backdrop of course of the arab spring which has really changed in the last year it's changed the dynamics of the arab world now it's also changed the dynamics between arab media and united states when it comes to al-jazeera that is

it wasn't that long ago that washington was criticizing al jazeera for things like running osama bin laden videos but the white house has certainly changed its tune now the white house has praised the network after its coverage of the air and spring and after allegations of a cozy relationship we've seen a surprise resignation from al jazeera chief r.t. correspond any so now it looks at why. right now al jazeera english is seen in two million american cable households al-jazeera or the island is not in isolation anymore but channels in your face coverage of the violent turmoil of the middle east and libya's emerging civil war has grounded crusie prime time slot with the u.s. and recent weeks you leaks claim al-jazeera has now resigned director general have ties to the cia what the detail is. the u.s. government and monitoring out yeah.

well he went to the web. and he can. be found in an appropriate. or simply repeated mike and then he would pick. one and it would be stepping into the open seat a member of the royal family fueling fears johansson voice will get moderate the arabic service was really criticized for being partisan and seeming to reflect elements of qatari policy. of new angles came much earlier this year when arab regimes started to crumble tougher square has become a pivotal landmark in the arab world a symbol of the spring uprising but the events here and here also signaled i turning point for al-jazeera i want vilified anti-american channel labeled extremist it's now called real media by the state department their coverage is just

in line with u.s. support of a series of regime changes in north and the middle east. from the beginning. into an international. network and that they did but the channel used to send messages from osama to obama and recalled al qaeda t.v. elgin. there is truly is vicious inaccurate and inexcusable now al jazeera is getting live sound out some local us not works but soon might be coming to your cable box right here in our area this is a situation where media has become of us the combat zone in itself and who controls it we see it with fox news we see it with other channels around the world now we're seeing it with zero i think the us will try to influence of sincere even more and perhaps praise more al-jazeera has been

a leader in that are literally changing people's minds an attitude how does iraqi citizen with a news agenda or is it and he's now a r.t. . now what about us cable leaks from wiki leaks that alleges the al-jazeera director was in contact with u.s. officials and responded to us complain of negative coverage promising to tone down i don't see on the stations website there are a lot of questions here and we want to ask them get a check there he's the new factor himself and our new video hi gary. hi there lauren how you i'm doing well it's nice that the so my first question is the price of being accepted at the white house and state department changing your coverage and adjusting your angle. you know for us that will let me say and acknowledge that i write for the al-jazeera website so i'm not a spokesman for the channel and i'm not claiming to be but i think this story is a little kilter here you know the united states government tries to pressure

influence and otherwise put content on to every channel in the world they have a twenty four hour monitoring apparatus which watches t.v. stations everywhere and they try to get the american government approved message out and they try to get other messages off the air messages they don't like so of course particularly during the war they were very vigilant about trying to stop all anti-war and critical coverage and al-jazeera came into some criticism there and i'm sure that they came into criticism through the protests to the government of qatar which pays a lot of the bills of al-jazeera some show that government went to the channel and said hey guys the u.s. is very upset about x. y. and c. can we chill it out a little bit and get them off our backs i'm sure that something like that happened but i think the dominant. approach of al-jazeera has been impeccable in terms of

being independent offering perspectives from the bottom up not the top down offering the voice of the voiceless and also offering what they call the opinion and the other opinion they're very committed to diversity i haven't seen that change and then let me ask you this question absolutely different way couldn't media that is not in line with white house says that the white house's agenda be accepted by the white house in the same way that media that as media that it. well don't forget right now we have a white house that's being blasted by fox news news is not really an outlet that they like over there you have to live in the real world and the real world is many different voices in terms of al-jazeera they have basically not really praise them silly clinton made a statement in congress to an appropriations committee and said look these people are very successful give us some money so we can be successful in our foreign

broadcasting she wasn't really praising al jazeera she was citing it as as a case example to be emulated by u.s. government propagandists i mean but you just mentioned fox news and fox news is a news agency that gets white house has gone after we've seen them call them a republican party mouthpiece call on other news organizations to isolate and alienate fox news to declare it not a news organization david times not given gas pox news so i guess if you're not in line with the white house agenda is it impossible to be expected. well i think they have to except you they may not like you and i mean i go out of their way to accommodate you i mean i think they have done interviews with al-jazeera which is your has a correspondent at the white house and has gotten access and does reports from the white house so you know i'm not sure they exclude them but i'm sure they're not happy about coverage that might be critical of what the united states government is doing in the same way the government of qatar may not be happy with the coverage

that's critical of what they're doing especially when they're paying the bills so there's always this tension between the people who only media and the people who run media and other governments that are trying to influence media media is as a suggested a sort of battleground today and it will continue to be so but which what al-jazeera used that bed at that administration hasn't lavished praise on many you mentioned senator hillary clinton's comments but there are reports that senior white house administration officials have lavish praise on al-jazeera for their coverage of the arab spring which you know people are legendary and lined with us interests so do i i wouldn't be i wouldn't be surprised by the lore but you know virtually everybody in the media world lavish praise on al-jazeera for their getting on this story and staying with it as long as they did in as comprehensively as they did it was an impressive performance it built viewers for al-jazeera not

just in the arab world but in the united states people wanted that information and they tuned in on their phones on the web and we are possible on the air so you know it's not it's also coming from the public they want to be informed they want information they want to get points of view that they've been denied over the years in line to serious fighting and that all then why do you think there are news there are various anytown. well i think that there was something happening there's some conflict with the government of qatar i've heard from a high level source at al-jazeera that this had nothing to do with wiki leaks the sets with their say so it may be that there's some pressure there the guy who's replacing him who's a member of the royal family has been involved with zero thought all these years he's been on their board he's not a newcomer to al jazeera and i think he would be very you know and why it would be very unwise of him and i think he probably knows it to try to interfere blatantly

in the coverage of the news how does your would lose journalists and to lose all the it's so i you know this is a managerial shift and actual details of what happened we don't know any we're almost out of time but just to just settle on that point again if i want to get to it. do you think that once you get cozy with the white house and your end it does influence your coverage i think of course it does it's you know the name of the game in washington is access and every journalist and every network wants to get their people in wants to get the story first wants to get quotes from insiders and that's the game that's played and they're often co-opted and controlled and that's the problem we have media manipulation at the highest levels and people are not getting the truth and so many americans know it that's why they're looking at other sources from social media to al-jazeera to r.t. and there was just actually apple that came out showing that a majority of americans don't trust mainstream forth and i appreciate you for

coming on and giving us all that and frightening sally tell maker and blogger at new air dot org. now as we talk about praising and rebellion and wars that have been going on in the world as we see peace deals failed diplomacy falls short some are calling not to work within this framework but for a total overhaul of society and culture the venus project is one of those they're pushing for a sustainable new world civilization unlike any other before that's their claim roxanne meadows from the venus project is here to talk about it thanks for being here so the venus project wants a world where war poverty hunger debt human suffering are not only avoidable but completely unacceptable sounds great how could i possibly work yes we are calling for that but it can't go on within the confines of the free enterprise system under socialism communism or any social stratification or social system it's

gone before what we're introducing is a new method oh organizing and running society based on and this is science and technology upside to the social system i'm not talking about scientists because they've been conditioned in this system just like anybody else it can be used to make weapons and guns and abuse in this way so we're talking about what we call a resource based economy. has worked on this for over seventy five years to arrive at this direction and if you look at our website in this project you will see technology you will see a new social design and you will see the explanation of a resource based economy we don't use. ok i'm sorry don i just wanted to say that our viewers are seeing images from your web site you argue that this is feasible

but what exactly though are you offering. well we're talking about a new way of organizing organizing society today our technology is racing forward but our social designs us bisons of years old and big are not keeping up with our ability to produce abundant abundance with the intelligent management of our resources and on technology you can't do that within the monetary system there is just too much corruption the system breeds promoting scarcity we're talking about promoting abundance and we can still do that we still have the resources to do that so we're talking about a system where you don't need money you you don't need barter credit or servitude of any kind we can organize society organize our resources on a global scale it has to be global as long as nations control most of the earth's resources you're going to have insurmountable problems it really has to take care

of the needs of everyone and as i'm saying we can do that we have the technology we maybe could have done it a hundred years ago but today we can do something like that we can get our social system to fit in with our technological ability ok i want to get a little bit more into that equation but i do want to ask aside from money and capital which you argue you would not use we are in the united states under a two party political system and were of course carrying out for presidential campaigns now so as i found the money portion which is a total overhaul what are you offering that isn't already part of a liberal agenda or a conservative agenda. has nothing to do with that we look at this as one agenda based on those who have the ability to persuade to arrive through for monetary means to lobby for their own interests but this system is really not run by the bottom by the people cottons really run by the top down and most people

who have money and influence people for their own ends that's how laws are me so we're talking about a system not based on politics but based on scientific method to take care of our problems we have lots of problems we're not addressing them how to how to sions when you think of it what do they bring you what can they do to pick clean the air just going to ask them and they make it cleaner safer transportation and they make you clean energy systems i don't know anything the politician our kitchen has brought us it's really science that has and has elevated society and what not but we were using science today morgan it's your work i'm just rants that's happening today science make it happen but i mean time tracking of who runs things then and you're wrong. well it's not a matter of who runs things it's how we organize society and how we meet the needs

of people but we do first take a survey of the earth's resources find out what we have better what we based our our our societies on find out where the resources are find out where the technical personnel are find out for instance where the diseases are going to determine how many hospitals built find out what can the needs of the people are today our society is not based on the needs of the people that's that's quite obvious when there's so many people that are starving and don't have food and whatever other people have to know too much so it's not based on opinion it's not based on differential advantage it's based on the needs of the people and that's very different as i mentioned today because today the society is based on wealth property and power it sounds like it sounds like science but it's also sounds like kind of a big vision of things without any kind of leadership at the top down so then why are you at odds from what i understand with other people who are calling person

a stand of all societies like those like i say that doesn't seem very utopian rock or first of all there is no such thing as you told me that notion is a fixed it's like a of a fixed thing that we're trying to struggle for and there i go final frontier is there i knew you. were not it odds with zygotes movement. but i would say that all of the solutions that the zygotes movement speaks about concerning the future originated from the works of the project we had no say in the running in the direction of the zygotes movement and they were using our name and our materials which we agreed to in the beginning so right it was i'm so sorry unfortunately we're out of time idea appreciate you explaining and coming on to tell us about the venus project that was roxanne meadows. and that's going to do it for now for more of the stories we covered go to our t.v. dot com slash usa you can check out our you tube page it's you tube.