a a a a a a a a a. here's the first. post in president mahmoud abbas his address met with a standing ovation at the united nations following his bid for palestine statehood so was past negotiations between israel and palestine have failed and where will this showdown the. this is a situation where. that has become of mr conrad so if it sells who controls the day after disclosures by wiki leaks al-jazeera has replaced its top news director rumors abound over lives of the bigger question in this day and age does the media need to change its coverage to get in with the state department and white house.

and are we i.m.f. the world bank and i.m.f. meet in washington a global economic crisis could loom so can they solve the world's problems or is the i.m.f. part of the problem. and while the i.m.f. leaders look for a solution another movement is offering some alternative ideas for a total overhaul of society enter the venus project. good evening it's friday september twenty third it's eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lister and you're watching r.t. . as a sixty six general assembly continues its united nations clashes between israelis and palestinians continue in the west bank now while in new york different story

palestinian leader mahmoud abbas has handed over a bid for membership to the united nations this got a massive applause and standing over. nation from delegations such as egypt when abbas took the podium at the u.n. g.a. earlier today take a listen thank you for the words. meanwhile outside our new york bureau just blocks from the u.n. our producers could hear the chants of free palestine as the speech racked up now the u.s. has said it will veto abbas's move at the u.n. if it goes to the security council and we also heard from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu today he told the u.n. that palestinians refuse to negotiate the middle east quartet is involved too that's the group of peace mediators that includes the e.u. the e.u. wendy u.s. and russia they have said that they need to get israelis and palestinians back to

the table and are hoping first lucian by two thousand and twelve where is this all had it could it be a crash collision and it's going to look set how that could possibly be. there are two leaves forces of noise in the big apple this week the traffic. and palestine's course for statehood at the u.n. use real has been. creating a. mere existence and stealing. from through the menopause and taking control of a situation at a boiling point is the privilege of those with power but even the authority of the strongest can win. because those better care and will take shortcuts to allow whistles. and even standing ovation thank you are so. excellent see mr van an application for the admission afghanistan as

a full member of the united nations. palestine officially ask for recognition at the one for security council vote ignoring america's repeated warning to veto this to say after sixty three years of suffering on saturday and enough enough enough thank you. it is time for the palestinian people to gain their freedom and independence the time has come for the form of the nobel peace prize winner for middle east our first kid he could to prevent this from happening in american power is gone as a result of footfall last year when we come back here next year we can have an agreement that will lead to a new member of the united nations an independent sovereign state of palestine living in peace with it this year palestinian seaview were stabbed in the back he has created a sense of letdown among palestinians the arabs even the world people of good

conscience who expected obama to live up to his promises to his values and principles rather than to not zero sense and obama's explanation one year ago. i stood at this podium and i called for an independent palestine but what i also said is that a genuine peace can only be realized between the israelis and the palestinians themselves while palestine makes a historic move with the one america loses political points its diplomacy the public really are and its ability to control diminished and i know that many are frustrated by the lack of progress oh sure you saw in. one of the routes for obama's motorcade always remain open with so many other players affected by the traffic created there will always be the one that gets away. and archie.

and talked about this earlier i spoke with political scientist and author norman finkelstein in new york and president of the christians israel public action campaign richard hellman here in washington d.c. i asked as negotiations between israel and palestine which were going on last year failed i started off by asking richard a simple question what's so wrong with palestine going a different route then in their quest for statehood at the united nations here's what he had to say. well no one has analyzed the underlying reasons why they failed president obama. in any zeal to move the talks ahead where is eleven predecessors had been unable to do so effectively raise the virus so high that not only netanyahu government but no israeli government freely elected could say that the six hundred and fifty thousand jews who live in the areas that under the saudi

or arab peace initiative are called occupied or contested that there could be no natural growth of settlements that meant that no one put in close up torture or had a room to their home for a new. newlywed couple or or elderly parents coming home so that bar was set so high that israel could not except it for more than an interim period the first ten months freeze on settlements and on the other hand the palestinian authority leaders have said we could not that is to say we couldn't let obama be more palestinian than us so they did and they can't come to talks without a complete freeze and it's a fact nothing yahoo had already killed what was left of the peace process before this it's very sad to say so but in atlanta the takeaway i'm hearing you say that this was president obama clark well he contributed to it but also the palestinian authority would not come and answer into negotiations in good faith without

preconditions as well as they had previously done and their predecessors including chairman yasser arafat had done for many years in fact there were plans to complete plans presented by prime minister of iraq in two thousand enjoy my camp david and later under olmert as i heard you barack i speak of last night olmert had a whole plan ready to go and the palestinian authority didn't accept it it was virtually one hundred percent of what that i was and then story was asked right let me bring on in that i think we can point fingers we can talk about this plan or that plan negotiations have been going on for a few decades they haven't worked and there's no iron is it could a u.n. resolution just help to kind of think all right. the problem is not a new u.n. resolution the problem is none of the old nations resolutions the advisory opinion of the international court of justice and the consensus of opinion

of into the whole of humankind has been consistently ignored for the past thirty years there is no this whatsoever there is no controversy whatsoever in the terms result in the conflict israel has to fully withdraw to the from the territories that are in june one thousand nine hundred sixty seven there has to be mutual recognition between the powers than in state and the whole of the west bank gaza and east jerusalem on the one side and the state of israel on the other side and there has to be a just resolution of the refugee question and. exactly let me just get in here because you know we're going through a lot of details but let's let's focus on just exactly what happened ok should it palestine be recognized as a state. i think that prime minister abbas or president abbas today in his speech made a very clear case for why the united nations should not fulfill its mandate and

also upload international law by recognizing that house opinion state in what is universally recognized as an occupied house and even territories that's all the palestinians are asking that the law be of help and that is will is not given a free hand to continue occupying and expanding a settlements illegally in talos finian parents are ok not let me record you're shaking your head why should i do you hang recognize how well i disagree completely unlike with you i think you'll recognize the analysis of what the law is because on a couple says there might be right back where is how it ties first there has never been a definition of what palestine is israel occupies one portion of what

was the palestine mandate coming out of the league of nations after world war one jordan became a state and israel gave away the whole sinai and they pulled out of lebanon and they pulled out of gaza and in each case what israel got in return was tens of thousands of rockets raining down on israel so that it was in the hands of the leaders of the palestinian authority to create the virtually equivalent of monaco or or or the riviera because it's the same sea it's the same beautiful area instead they created with all due respect a hell hole for their own people with rockets raining on israel and one of the reasons why israel can't do this is because everything that is happening in the un right now including what what abbas is asking for is contrary to security council resolution. two four two and three three eight in the oslo agreements all of which were agreed on in the past ok gentlemen what's happening here is something that so

often happens when you talk to people on two sides of that issue no matter what the new news is no matter what is going on now you can never have a discussion about now because no one can answer a straight question about now everything will back to a million different you know not only did i didn't already know that i want to write a letter and i know is there anything that you guys can agree on i don't know that you're anything we're going to grow on but i let me go to richard burr but i but i can say that apart from whatever prime minister netanyahu or another israeli government thinks it might be able to agree upon and no one is counting the cost that is to say if somehow these six hundred fifty thousand jews were all moved and ten percent of all the jewish israelis were moved out of where they live now with all their infrastructure and another six hundred fifty thousand or a million or moved in there's hundreds of billions of dollars of cost to united states and foreign aid and perhaps two divisions of u.s. troops they say nato troops richard so there's a vast consequences of this that nobody's looking at. as political scientist and

author norman finkelstein president and also president of the christians israel public action campaign richard hellman. now all of this is going on on the backdrop of the arab spring which has changed the dynamic of the arab world of the globe really and it's also changed the dynamics between arab media and the u.s. at least when it comes to al-jazeera it wasn't all that long ago that washington was criticizing al jazeera for things such as running osama bin ladin videos but the white house has certainly changed its tune now the white house praising the network after their coverage of the arab spring and after allegations of a cozy relationship we've even seen a surprise resignation from al-jazeera chief our chief correspondent and he said now we've looked into why. right now al jazeera english is seen through million american cable households al-jazeera or the island is not in isolation anymore the channels in your face coverage of the violent turmoil of the middle east and

libya's emerging civil war has grounded cousy prime time slot with the u.s. and recent week uniques claim how dizzy or is now resigned director general had ties to the cia but the detail is. the u.s. government has been monitoring. the putting michelle and. well he went to the web. and the. inappropriate. or simply that he didn't like. what he was. stepping into the open seat a member of the royal family fueling fears joe months voice will get him out or the arabic service was really criticized for being part of seeming to reflect certain elements of qatari policy. of the new angles came much earlier this year when arab

regimes started to crumble tucker's square has become a pivotal landmark in the arab world a symbol of the spring uprising but the events here in town here also signaled the turning point for al jazeera i want bill if i can tie american channel labeled extremists has now called real media by the state department their coverage is just in line with us support of a series of regime changes in north and the middle east. from the beginning. into an international. network and that they did but the channel used to send messages from osama to obama and were called out kind of t.v. l.g. . it is true he is vicious inaccurate and excused now al-jazeera is getting why the shout outs on local us not works that soon might be coming to your

cable box right here in our area this is a situation where the media has become almost a combat zone in itself and who controls speed we see it with fox news we see it with other channels around the world now we're seeing it with zero i think the us will try to influence since you're even more and perhaps pretties more al-jazeera has been a leader in that are literally changing people's minds an attitude all dizzy and says we can use it and or is it and he says no way archie carter. now a us cable leak from wiki leaks allege that the al-jazeera director was in contact with u.s. officials and responded to us complaints of negative coverage promising to tone down items on the stations website so to get to the bottom of what all of this nene's i spoke with someone with a little experience in this field the news dissect or himself danny schechter to start off i asked him and this is the price of being accepted by the white house

and state department that you have to adjust your coverage here's the take. you know for us of all let me say and acknowledge that i write for the al-jazeera website so i'm not a spokesman for the channel and i'm not claiming to be but i think this story is a little off kilter here you know the united states government tries to pressure influence and otherwise put content on to every channel in the world they have a twenty four hour monitoring apparatus which watches t.v. stations everywhere and they try to get the american government approved message out and they try to get other messages off the air messages they don't like so of course particularly during the war they were very vigilant about trying to stop all anti-war and critical coverage and al-jazeera came into some criticism there and i'm sure that they came into criticism through the protests to the government of

qatar which pays a lot of the bills of al-jazeera some sure that government went to the channel and said hey guys the u.s. is very upset about x. y. and c. can we chill it out a little bit and get them off our backs i'm sure that something like that happened but i think the dominant. approach of al-jazeera has been impeccable in terms of being very independent and offering perspectives from the bottom up not the top down offering the voice of the voiceless and also offering what they call the opinion and the other opinion they're very committed to diversity i haven't seen that change their money after that in a different way could needier that is not in line with white house. would be the white house is agenda be extracted by the white house in the same way that need yet that it. well don't forget right now we have a white house that's being blasted by fox news news is not really an outlet that

they like over there you have to live in the real world and the real world is that many different voices in terms of al-jazeera they have basically not really praised them made a statement and congress to an appropriations committee and said look these people are very successful give us some money so we can be successful in our foreign broadcasting she wasn't really praising al-jazeera she was citing it as as a case an example to be emulated by u.s. government propagandists want it but get you just mentioned fox news and cox news is the news agency that gets the white house have gone after we've seen them call them a republican party mouthpiece call on other news organizations to isolate and alienate fox news to declare it not a news organization and they have at times not given gas to fox news so i guess if you're not in line with the white house agenda is it impossible to be accepted. well i think they have to except you they may not like you and i mean i go out of

their way to accommodate you i mean i think they have done interviews with al jazeera al-jazeera has a correspondent at the white house and has gotten access and does report from the white house so you know i'm i'm not sure they exclude them but i'm sure they're not happy about coverage that might be critical of what the united states government is doing in the same way the government of qatar may not be happy with the coverage that's critical of what they're doing especially when they're paying the bills so there's always this tension between the people who only and the people who run media and other governments that are trying to influence media media is as a suggested a sort of battleground today and it will continue to be so but when what al-jazeera is that that administration hadn't lavished praise on any you mentioned cannot ellery queen can't comment but there are reports that senior white house administration officials had lavish praise on al-jazeera crowd our coverage of the

arab spring which you know people alive in the very end lined with us and so do i i wouldn't be i wouldn't be surprised by that loren but you know virtually everybody in the media world lavage praise on al-jazeera for their getting on this story and staying with it as long as they did in as comprehensively as they did it was an impressive performance viewers for al-jazeera not just in the arab world but in the united states people wanted that information and they to get in on their phones on the web and we're possible on the air so you know it's not it's also coming from the public they want to be informed they want information they want to get points of view that they've been denied over the years. i was called maker and blogger at news dissect or danny news director got or get a shocker now from all of the diplomatic pouch that we've spoken about today media battles to the financial ones with the eurozone debt crisis unresolved persistent

high unemployment with us possibly headed for recession possibly in one l.f. global growth expected to stall can the i.m.f. press cried any solutions or is the very institution part of the problem well as the international monetary fund needs in washington right now i spoke with paul craig roberts he's a columnist and a former reagan administration official who was actually assistant secretary of the treasury i asked him why the i.m.f. was willing to prescribe last why the austerity for greece when now it's coming out starting to say that austerity is the wrong thing here is what he said the trouble is the poles shoemakers in united states and europe are in the hands of the bankers and so the bankers who don't want to lose one euro or one day are using the policy of europe and united states to bail themselves out and they're getting bailed out

regardless bed because to the general public in the various countries who are the cost to the national economies of the various countries you mention the basic problem so as long as those should make use of. bailing out the banks. well the rest of the economy will suffer and continue to worsen so would you argue that if greece doesn't back to fall and if i am a allows that that would be breaking the cycle that you're talking about well it's not up to the i.m.f. or whether greece defaults we have to be very careful that i am help doesn't become the governor of these countries and the best solution for greece would be to default because if they default it means their loans have to be restructured to what they can pay and the banks then have to write down the lawlessness and the losses in danger that writes then the european central bank could turn its

attention to what it takes to save the banks it is loan it is the european central bank and the g. twenty and the i.m.f. and the federal reserve in the united states are focused on saving the banks at all cost no sensible outcome is possible i hear you're saying i want to go back to what you said at the beginning of the interview because i just want to i kind of want to go further with that because you're saying that now that i am up is changing its tune and saying austerity is a bad thing because it's europe and troubled as opposed to latin american countries or other developing nations that right have been subject to i.m.f. programs in the past exactly right ok so they're going to write their own stars i have just an institution that amount is a western institution and it can't subject. own countries who fund it to the same punishments it does to the underground world so are you saying

that the old tarrier motive of coming out and calling now for austerity about for stimulus is what pushed european countries to bail out european sovereign nations that are in crisis and banks are growing it's bailing out the banks bailing out six when they say they're bailing out greece what they really are saying is we're bailing out the german dutch and french banks who purchase great bottoms. they didn't do due diligence and purchased well balanced and very skewed service and we don't want to lose any money as paul craig roberts columnist and former reagan administration official now as wars go on in the world peace deals failed diplomacy falls short politicians can't agree on bailouts or no bailouts some are calling for everybody to just throw it all away some are calling for a total overhaul of society the venus project is one of those such organizations

they're pushing for a sustainable new world civilization so what they call it unlike any other before to tell us about it i spoke to someone who's part of project roxanne meadows with all of this talk that they have of getting ready of poverty hunger and debt i says sounds great but just how is the venus project to make that happen here's what she had to say yes we are calling for that but it can't be done within the confines of the free enterprise system under socialism communism or any social stratification or social system that is gone before what we are introducing is a new method both organizing and running society based on the mercy of science and technology applied to the social system i'm not talking about scientists because they've been conditioned in the system just like anybody else they can be used to make weapons and bombs and abuse in this way so we're talking about what we call a resource based economy ok i want to get

a little bit more into that if we have time but i do want to ask aside from money and capital what you argue you would not use we are in the united states under a two party political system and were of course carrying out for a presidential campaigns now so if i can the money portion which is a total overhaul what are you offering that isn't already part of a liberal agenda or a conservative agenda. i was nothing to do with that really we look at this one agenda based on those who have the ability to persuade. true for monetary means to lobby for their own interests but this system is really not run by the bottom by the people up it's really run by the top down and those people who have money and influence people for their own ends that's how laws are made so we're talking about the system not based on politics but based on scientific

methods to take care of our problems lots of problems we're not addressing them house politicians when you think of it what do they bring you what can they do typically make air just going to ask them and they make you cleaner safer transportation and they make you clean energy systems i don't know anything that politician a politician of products it's really science this is an elevated society but not the way we're using science today we're going to look at this. that's happening today fire break out of that i don't mean to interrupt and over run things and you're wrong well it's not a matter of who runs things it's how we organized society and how we meet the needs of people what we do first is take a survey of the earth's resources find out what we have and that's what we based our our our societies on. it's very complicated you can go to the web site to get the full story we obviously couldn't do it all in a t.v.

interview that was roxanne that was a venus project and that's going to do it for now but stay tuned right here to our team next week for a brand new line up countdown to shutdown again it seems to be the never ending story with the u.s. congress these days and elected officials are looking more like hostage takers than the country's great negotiators refusing to compromise for the greater good of the people some would argue so as democrats and republicans do argue this time over for relief funds is this congress a disaster in the making and nuclear projects have a shaky history to say the very least but what if there was a nuclear reactor that couldn't melt down created cheap energy and burned old weapons stockpiles is it a pipe dream or could this just be the new energy of the future the hammer of tory m and when the economy loses its libido some californians are turning up the heat between the sheets to pay for the energy bill.