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right and if you move from phones to pressure. these flintstones on t.v. don't come. back you're watching r t these are the top stories israelis and palestinians are urged to return to the negotiating table as the middle east quartet lays down a vicious new goals drive the moment momentum of the palestinian statehood bid at the u.n. and. education stagnation shop new figures reveal one of five british youngsters leave school without basic literacy and are struggling to find jobs as a result of. russia's rolling party holds its annual conference as speculation mounts over whether this could be the place at a time to announce who will stand for the presidency in two thousand and twelve.
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and market meltdown it's the worst rating we can you are of the us since the crisis of two thousand and eight as fears of a double dip recession and grow despite the efforts of nih math and world bank. that's why the headlines up next a spotlight aldred off speaks to a star snapper from rolling stone magazine who's credited with taking rock music pictures to a whole new. carlos again to walk into the spotlight the interview show on our take i probably today my guest in the studio is there was. a rolling stone magazine has become a legend for generations of music lovers around the world for many famous band musicians the pictures and the rolling stone but came a springboard into the world of show but there's lots of on those stories behind
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every photo and who could tell the stories better than the pictures here's the rolling stone magazine's former chief accountant for baron. looking at the iconic photos of jenny's joplin b.b. king and jimi hendrix you know where you saw the first rolling stone magazine popularize a new standard a music journalist bringing a closer to the audience and people looking at us from the covers and pages appear natural as if they were captured truly in the moment this casual style of photography helped bring the magazine fame and fortune and mashes groundbreaking reputation and now the man who was behind the camera all this time is on the screen today. hello mr wall and welcome to the show thank you very much my first time in russia
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my first time i love this place first time a russian t.v. i have for definitely first i reckon. i read that you'd began your career when you did your milk tree service in the u.s. believes that is that true for you started taking pictures like from behind the wall which was just created that was in the sixty's when i was in the fifty's that would. you took those pictures through leisure for fun or was it part of you of your service maybe you did some sort of journalism something no no no it was not part of my service it was my hobby i love taking pictures that's what i did for many years but what happened then after i took the pictures in berlin because everybody thought this was the beginning of world war three when the war goes on i told the newspaper in my hometown i said all there's a local boy on the front line as pictures as story are you interested so i sent and they said sure we take a look and they they publish all of the pictures and the whole story and they sent
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me a check if the dollars so you sort of make you money so you become a professional photographer that very day i said no more harvey now i'm a professional and so was it your decision you would call it a decision of the paper that the thought that it was true worth before i thought well they decided it was worth paying for and i decided i didn't know what i wanted to do in that decision is now history has made that decision for me he never studied photography never went to any school the strangers the cameramen whatever one did you decided that you were good enough for the that you could not just made a couple of extra bucks but make it make a career for life well first of all i love that i had a passion for photography you know from the day archetype the camera in me everything made sense the world began to make sense for example i look at the chaos in the world that i pick up the camera and now everything makes sense because i can
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select the moment that has some meaning to me so i loved it from the beginning and then when i got paid i loved it even more of course you know. so you were looking for harmony you so you were looking because he was going to the chaos and in the frame it was. there was there was more harmony. and this in the world harmony for me is a very very very. important words because i think that i'm always looking for harmony and in my life to keep things balanced and then when i had it in a camera oh man i felt so good in writing music because i guess. that music is the only thing on earth that's made according to her family and children as you are all it takes is not harmonious music is. when you when you came to the u.s. from from from europe where you already rock music and did you were you really into rock music or really i think music has always been
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a part of my life with classical music popular music rock music but i wasn't a fan like i became once i became involved with the you know with the rolling stone or are doing that on a daily basis you would have from the very beginning when they were. how was the idea to to to create this new new sort of format like well like a musical magazine the idea came from young winner who is now the publisher and a man named grayson who is writing for a san francisco paper and they saw what was happening this evolution and in music and in lifestyle and they said look the only thing that exists now for music in publication is is the business is you know the business of music the trade publications or what's going on they say we want something for the people for the people we love for the people that are our friends let's try something like that
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and that was their idea and how was an inch of the released and i it may be common knowledge of the states where but in russia everybody thinks that it has something to do with the rolling stones you know it never had anything to do with the band the rolling stones even though in the beginning i said they say what do you do i think i'm a photographer for the rolling stone they said on you with mick jagger. no not. like the dylan song you know like a rolling stone with ascension they were where the phrase came from. and the name of make me expand it also it came from. i don't know either now. i have to ask him someday but at the time when you started jagger was bigger than a very big he was bigger than an exit oh yeah yeah i mean everybody knew the role in the world. chose you why did they choose you as the number one for time ok we went out one of my clients as a as a photojournalist was
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a school of music in the bay area and this school of music decided. rock n roll is very interesting now it's getting bigger and bigger we're going to have a symposium so i told the magazine i was working for this symposium is going to be very important let's cover the symposium and they said world call this guy who loves music he's twenty one years old he's at the university of california writes for the paper he should go along with you as a writer so i calmly said yeah it's a good idea and that was young man or so we had we had we became friends immediately he tells me about the idea and he says what do you think about this idea for this new paper it's a good idea he said you want to be the photographer you know why not and then he said you have ten thousand dollars to invest i said no i don't have ten thousand dollars but i tell you what i shoot for free and you give me stock in the company
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but there was no company so easy for him to say yes right and i thought he just that day so. really do you still have the stark and no i had it for many years and then they cut their family but everybody stuck back but it was believe me it was. years worth and yeah i tell you what else i did without even knowing who intelligence was i said one more thing i own all the pictures you can use them any way you want but i own them he said find your problem in still i still in the glow but he knew then what that would mean you know in the case you showed them for free . you just mentioned to say i should ask i should ask me. where you got the name for the rolling stones. you know you need in you or your friends will jagger all. stars are. to some degree to some degree remember i would go in as a photographer and we have
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a certain amount of time treat the pictures come back develop the pictures get into the magazine i didn't have a lot of time but some had become friends. i'm friends with jimmy page for example yeah he turned out to be you know really interesting guy intelligent guy he's incredible as a musician reasonable one of the last unbelievable and is the person he you know you would like him to sit in have a conversation is had is not big fish. who states i mean u.k. and you live in the states i live in this area so how do you keep going like and you know he may i know the first time i met him in person we were in bangkok with some friends and you know it was very funny the story in bangkok you standing on the street we were standing on street corner and there was the u.s. guitarist who was standing with us talking he plays in bangkok and the guy says you look like jimmy page he said well i am jimmy page and he keeps talking because he says you know you really do look like jimmy page and you're trying to write and you
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need. ok now when you took the pictures of those of those guys in the in the early years he should have. come to meet them and come to see them in person it should have been like like a great opportunity for you as a young guy he should have been very important monkey friends because you saw that large back here and here here you must understand one thing when i was taking pictures in the early in the late sixty's these guys were not that famous yet many of them they lived in the in their heyday ashbury where i lived you know janis joplin here grayslake here grateful dead here so it was more like family so everybody said i would take going in maybe take some pictures of our friends you know and then it became of course much more important after that you know. it was different at those times than it is today today everybody wants to be active wants
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to be on the front page those times did they did you annoy people why did you consider you to be a proper arts is not there all night at all no no no no i mean. you understand there was nothing for the musicians in those days to get publicity so they were happy to be a part of it and also from a friendly guy so it was never a problem that you know. that's a great leader can you know i mean this is the thing it would be the king. i went backstage you tell come on here and sit there and you want to drink you know we'll talk a little bit like that no big had nothing you know that's those days are over those days are finished you cannot do that anymore you know because of the people that are rionda managers i mean the guys all that all of that i mean big business i'll tell you another thing what i tried to do when i took pictures of these guys was take intimate pictures of you know intimate portraits and how they really looked ok along comes m.t.v.
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and they start making music videos they see themselves look at me on t.v. i want to look like this let's change this i want to look like this so what i did they didn't care about anymore they wanted to manage their own look if you know what i mean so as barrel warm and they're rolling stone former chief and other first and this was the spotlight will be back shortly after brixton stay. wealthy british style sun. spot light on. the. market finally. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy
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with much stronger no holds barred look at the global financial headlines and cause report. in the. faraway land where human life is ruled by nature. the distant past of planet earth is scarcely preserved by the per. inch of animals lie hidden in the deep permafrost. and for those who deal with them restored times are still not the. very first verses of the bible all human beings are created at settlement or came in god's image and it doesn't say just jews or not it is. sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a combat soldier an iraqi by territories listen to what the turds doing what we call making our presence so you go out should some bozo they hear a knock on some doors from the other corner of it and i doubt religion and
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nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. bloodshed if you want to bomb gaza and kill. a thousand four hundred people in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect there are a few you have to be either extremely naive or extremist to be not just here but surely just to calling another joe a not and not the way they really are that among imaginary things. welcome back the spotlight i'm now going over just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is barrett warm and the railing stone for a chief a dog or for a man that really knows there's probably all the great rock stars that that we
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could possibly mention and remember today you you mentioned being friends with pete . mix with some of them. is coming to most going i guess pretty soon you know i know and yeah i knew when to jury and when i met him i met him many times because he lived nearly in marin county and north of san francisco so on many occasions i met him yeah. you were together it was dark when i was there with i covered the whole thing up with you were supposed to be there it was yours you were assigned to be it was the congress wasn't assigned to exactly carlos he didn't hear it he did appear because how did it happen did the promoter who should have the story ok a very famous promoter named bill graham who had. really how could i forget the famous. oh my god all over the venue's the fillmore the
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fillmore west the fillmore east he was the best rock a more promoter of the time and he was also managing carlos santana nobody knew carlos and so the woodstock promoters they said bill graham we need some help from you know you know for this for this big show we're putting on and it was can you help us and he said i'll help you for free for one on one condition you let my band carlos santana play at woodstock so they said ok he could play it would start. but some interesting things happened when carlos was there you know carlos is sitting backstage with jerry garcia from the grateful dead and jerry said we're going to be back here for several hours let's get high let's take some acid have a good time and then we play later and carl said ok so they got high and they started tripping yeah half an hour later they said ok carlos you on right now come on you're ready now and he said he was crazy because he was you know he was tripping so he goes on the stage and he starts playing the guitar and he told me afterwards he said you cannot believe this they could charge was like
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a steel snake i couldn't hold on to it it was moving in my hands he said but i looked out into the audience i saw only. three hundred thousand pair of eyes and teeth and the sound i saw the sound go out to the audience and come back into the martyr and then into my head i didn't know what i was doing everything illusion if you don't view this is a little in the book. woodstock really hits on you with such a mission watching the show here's the now hearing the story i definitely come back and watch it but here's the thing they did a fantastic soul sole survivor this fantastic set a game where they hit it would start after with carlos santana was a star after that even though he was you know. you did some wonderful pictures and stuff we just saw some of them right now but is it true that they. didn't publish some of your pictures now because because i read
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somewhere that there are many many of the in the audience many hippies will a kid now and american family did they want to do that i didn't mean that i mean i really don't know here's the here's the funny story there was one picture i had of the light tower and this guy was standing totally naked looking at me in the picture ok we had in those days encyclopedia you know encyclopedias so they published in a magazine in those days you have to give them a print there was no digital i gave them a print of that picture that the one they wanted then they took a airbrush and they put underpants on that guy and they put the picture in the encyclopedia with underpants that's the only one can you believe that there's a wonderful story that when my dad used to work in the media in the printing newspaper and there was crucial was the leader of the soviet union he was in the airport for the some reason and the picture and over guys were wearing their hats
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and crucial one wearing it and my dad went to the paint brush and put it out on the page and they drew out and when this picture appeared on the front pages. they all were weary had the cruise ship had another one is. yeah that's what they were but let's give it to me two to woodstock one star generation they call them in the united states how did it happen do you have any idea how did happen that so many great tellers have been in one time. well you mean you were to me i mean it was star generation the musicians really talented you mean how they would all say you know how it was when one of the poor in the world was there something in the air that so many talents appeared that appeared there i've truthfully i don't know how it happened because the guy who produced woodstock the only other production the only other concert he ever produced was the year before in miami he took two trucks backed them together flatbed trucks put the band on
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there had a small concert so how did it go from that small concert to woodstock i don't know you know i don't know how how it even happened to be but it's a very what's important about woodstock i think is that it was a disaster waiting to happen any bad things could happen with three hundred thousand people anything could happen but nothing that happened really and that's why the woodstock generation that's why they call it that because here with the chance peace and love and music for everybody to get together and it worked out very well you know. there was. recently must be you might heard of that michael thousands of mick jagger's by now i had and it's yeah. the people who. said there were some photographers there people said that mick has the best face in the world i mean he's the best object you could you can imagine to photograph do
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you agree he you can i tell you do i mean he is ugly but why is he so so so appealing. to people you cannot take a bad picture like jagger and jimi hendrix i don't care you can try you cannot take a bad beer so expressive you know everything the way they dress the way they hold themselves the way they make their expression that's why you know. they're very very very photogenic for sure something with the phrase this is this is very disappointing harmony. i think it's the family and the distance between the eyes the proportion of the will maybe with me it's the harmony of disharmony. and ok is it true that. you use the studio you know you know studio through this and you did i noticed this when you were taking pictures around your unusual you don't even use a flash when you cannot ever light flash and i seldom use the studio i use the
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studio on a couple of occasions which because i want to do something special but no i where i prefer a natural light because the natural light gives the natural picture of the person that you're photographing and for me that's what i was always trying to do be very intimate honest photograph of my subject so being being like being in the field being without flashes without without lights it's like it's like a large music like when you're socialises live photography like things you know ok now what do you think about glamour and what do you think about the the the modern the modern ways of doing doing music we use music for music creatures when everything is made very glamorous very shiny very as we say photoshop. actually at its best it's very interesting i mean one of i'm a big fan of lady gaga and i tell you why she she uses all of the creative powers
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to do something special she designs around clothes she writes music she writes her lyrics i mean this is this you may say is very you know shiny flashy music video but there is a great deal of creativity involved some of the other stuff and it's just you know everybody repeats everybody he did that i do that he did that i do that but the best of the best come up and because i think very very significant creative. musicians souls that are there. it's a natural. supposed to look the way they look in glamour magazine you know that even they even extend their legs and do things with their figures i mean in their in the computer they can really really good news be reasonable the way she looks. at you well what is real any how would you tell me what is real i don't know. well i guess i guess what you do and what you did and what those people did and that's
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why i started early job with i mean that was real yeah that was real music and that is why i started because reality reality was of less interest then manufactured photographs actually you know and when the m.t.v. came and the people saw decided that they could control their image they didn't want me anymore what stock and t.v. there. really have well there was no point with it i mean woodstock was the beginning and he was the end for me in terms of the honesty because in those days i could go on stage i could go backstage i could go anywhere i wanted now you can you know by now you know what they do they put the phone photographers in the pit in the front of the band they give two or three songs everybody gets the same picture what is this this is this is creativity this is ridiculous you know. more than anything but. everybody has a camera and everybody wants to be around
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a little bit of a current do you have any interest in what's happening in music today in rock music in recent years said lady gaga yeah peripheral interest i mean not the kind of interest that i had in those days one of the one of the. famous rock musicians once wrote a line that said rock n roll's dead but i'm still alive and. do you feel this way and i feel that way a little bit yeah you know if you survive woodstock then he can survive anything but it but there are rock n roll bands to do here's the thing i think that rock it's just like photography anybody can go to the photo of the camera store buy a digital camera take nice pictures like great back nice pictures people the kids now can go to a guitar store get a guitar maybe could play with you know the video has affected or whatever yeah and and have a band so it's much more democratic and so there's much more music being made i
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don't know if there's an opportunity for great music that's why i say lady gaga emerged from this environment to make something special but this is rare i think it is rare thank you thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that my guest in the studio today was baron raman of the rolling stone for which he for talks and that's an hour from all that's your spot light will be back with more and comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then our take and take your. pick.
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