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i'll go back about till date on the show. welcome back the u.s. military is packing up shop and getting ready to move out of iraq or so we're told but reports show a different kind of buildup is actually underway as we pointed out in the past the mainstream media has continued to overlook the fact that contractors and employees from the u.s. state department are moving into the country to pick up the slack left by the military drawdown so far the state department has awarded three security contracts worth nearly two point nine billion dollars over the next five years alone and there are more clues as to where the state department will carry a strong presence and basra the u.s. base will stop posting thousands of u.s. soldiers however the u.s. consulate is undergoing a massive expansion and is expected to hold over twelve hundred employees most of which will be security contractors along with civilian officials from the state
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department's bureau of international narcotics and military personnel to oversee oversee weapons sales and security training now there are also plans for a consulate in terrible it will have approximately fourteen hundred people and will be the operating post for the security cooperation facility and don't forget we already have the one billion dollar u.s. embassy in baghdad that was one billion the one hundred four acre compound is the largest u.s. diplomatic outpost in the world and it's home to three thousand troops contractors and civilian officials now the state department appears to be doing its best to take over where the troops left off they're requesting five point two billion dollars just on iraq for two thousand and twelve that's the reeve billion dollar increase over the previous year so a lot more money and the senate committee on foreign relations estimates that the state department will spend between twenty five to thirty billion dollars in iraq over the next five years that is
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a substantial increase over the previous five years now in the state department's budget summary for two thousand and twelve explains that some of that money would go to. the economic support fund which is designed to help the transition from a military to a civilian presence and to continue aiding the iraqi government now that money would also be used for anti-corruption programs and strengthening iraq's private sector economy and that the words military to civilian presence have been repeated throughout the hundred seventy two page report in efforts to explain why the state department needs more funds despite efforts to cut federal funding now funding now the report signed by secretary of state hillary clinton explains much of the work previously done by our military in iraq will be come the responsibility of the state and u.s. agency of international development so with all of that in mind it sure doesn't look like the u.s. will be leaving iraq in a real way anytime soon but rather replacing troops with civilians and private
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contractors as much as possible so if the u.s. mission in iraq over we'd say hardly sounds like it. now last night afghan an afghan employee of the u.s. government opened fire inside a cia office in kabul killing an american injuring a second now this was an employee of the u.s. government and it reportedly happened in the cia compound in the already on a hotel that is said to be one of the most heavily guarded in kabul now i want you to remember back in two thousand and nine remember when the cia experienced the second deadliest attack in its history when a would be informant blew himself up on an afghan base well at the time then cia director leon panetta noted that counterterrorism required working with dangerous people in dangerous situations involving a high degree of ambiguity and risk yes u.s. war seemed to make for interesting bedfellows and just earlier this month in afghanistan we saw militants shower rockets on the u.s.
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embassy and nato headquarters now the u.s. blamed the hook conny network of militants and washington accuse pakistan's spy service the i.s.i. of offering support to this group which pakistan denies now it turns out according to media reports the u.s. worked with the haqqani family in afghanistan during the soviet occupation in the eighty's and use pakistan's i.s.i. to funnel money to the economies to allow them to buy weapons media reports even revealed that the leader of the network even visited the white house when reagan was president yes u.s. wars certainly make for interesting bedfellows but more than that does the u.s. simply make the bed that it lies in joining me is jack rice former cia officer and criminal defense attorney to help me answer those questions hijack really with you it's so nice to have you on the show now i want to start with a question that actually glenn greenwald posed in a recent piece for salon that i think makes quite a point and i want you to answer it does the u.s. ever have any enemies that it did not at some point in the recent past fund arm and
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or cooperate with extensively. you know i can sit. about that question myself and the problem is there's one additional element that you have to probably add to this angered to the point that they cause them to attack us if we didn't fund them and the only one i can think of is hezbollah and hezbollah it's generally in lebanon and elsewhere that they're tied to the iranians but all of a sudden if you start talking about iran you have to come back and realize that what the americans did was completely replace their government in the fifty's with essentially a to tell a terrible dictator of the cia by former employers choosing and you wonder why the iranian government is incredibly angry with us you see so that's maybe the additional sort of failure that we have because there are lots of them but you're saying basically that you can't think of one example of that that the us has been in some way shape or form funded armed or cooperated with in the bath. you know what essentially you're correct i start thinking about central and south america
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all of the things that we have supported although to tell a tarion dictatorships if they're in power if they were out of power then we're supporting the rebels in the rebels come into power and then they blow to pieces you mention the economy network and you think about what we have with the mujahideen going back into the eighty's and the into the seventy's and you think about the pakistanis and pakistani i saw it but let's take this to a very current state if we think about what pakistan in the pipette is standing aside that's their intelligence service what they have done they were the ones who primarily established the taliban in afghanistan and i'm thinking about this in terms of my last trip to afghanistan itself and we think about what the i.s.i. has done they were the ones who funded them they were the ones that put them in place in afghanistan and then we turn around in our spending amazing amounts of money on the pakistanis while at the same time we're actually fighting the very people that they started if you can explain that or at least explain it in a way that makes sense to me or anybody else. you know i guess you win the big
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prize i think you win a big prize but he did a pretty good job of explaining it and use that all of that comes from your experience you were in the theater i want to ask you about this latest afghan employee that we've opened fire and what was reportedly a very. tight area tight security heavily guarded area in kabul restricted even to afghan forces this cia office and that's how to tell it sounds kind of fishy does it sound like there's more in this story to you oh without question there was a lot more to this but it does highlight one point and it was true regarding the coast incident as well as this one it's that the americans are and are having a heck of a time trying to figure out who their friends are and who their enemies are in the reason is because the ground is actually shifting under their feet and you realize that with the pakistanis and everything going on there we realize that with the afghans themselves and i think about the number of. people who claim that they were supporting the americans when in fact they work but every time that there's an
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incident where a civilian or group of civilians that is killed which are causing their blood feuds with in afghanistan which may create somebody who was once an ally into in the internal enemy and that's part of the problem that the americans face every time they run an operation when it says they were you're saying you're saying every time the us runs an operation it creates new everything that i have to fight against land well essentially every time the nato troops and un troops run an operation and an individual is injured who is just some civilian what you're then creating is a huge group of people who see the americans as the perpetrators of evil the horror of the crimes that they think the americans have committed and what it does is it expands the number of people who really truly hate us i mean think of it this way they are between one point to one point five billion muslims in the world the vast majority of them don't necessarily hate us or don't necessarily love us but every
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time we go out and do something stupid what we're doing is we're taking a larger and larger number of them and pushing them into the camp that despises this forever and that number's getting bigger and bigger and bigger each time we sort of make these ridiculous moves that we haven't about talking about iraq and afghanistan in general i'm talking about some of the latest move or seeing from the american leadership in some u.s. senators talking about pakistan their own by the way add one additional point the pakistanis have somewhere in the neighborhood of eight nuclear weapons let's add that to the mix and realize just how much more complicated this is going to become keep your eyes on pakistan very much more complicated so what do you actually thing you think is going to happen in pakistan. well i think the big concern here right now is that the pakistani government is on this razor's edge they've always been trying to sort of lean to to the west and unite the same time they have islamic extremism within their own country and they're constantly pushing back and forth to try to find the balance they have sometimes help the americans while at the same
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time they have regularly done things that hurt the americans if the americans push their back against the wall which you're going to see there from politicians just like you see in this country is they will pander to the masses and the masses aren't us the masses are the extremists in places like russia the sort of but certainly slow bought in for due to the north that's going to drive them into more extremist camps and by that we contemplate just how many people we're talking about and then of course you have those eighty nuclear weapons in the mix and where those may end up this could be catastrophic in nature and the americans know that and that is what they're afraid of and frankly that's what they should be afraid of that's what they should be afraid of i want to just continue this and look at another country which is iran because it's another one that you hear u.s. politicians always being the drums of war over it's also a country that the u.s. with secretly arming back in the eighty's and through israel so talk about the fact that they ever on regime it had u.s. weapons funneled to it does that make it more tricky when the u.s.
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ever thinks about any kind of military. effort there. well actually it makes a great point because when i mentioned at the beginning i thought hezbollah was the only organization yeah but if you think about it through the iranians i guess you take them off the list to go check yes that is a real problem especially when you contemplate what iran is capable of i mean we've been talking about afghanistan in a sense but if we compare just iraq let's just start with iraq in saddam and then you look if you're wrong iran is three times the size seventy five million people they have triggers in places like lebanon they have triggers in places like palestine and elsewhere throughout the middle east to the most powerful the most influential country in the middle east their ability to actually control events on the ground and they have been able to do that whether we like it or not is so extensive that if we actually come back now and claim we're going to get into this war with the disaster is so much bigger than we have been dealt with yet with afghanistan or iraq and i can't even contemplate what it means to the rest of the
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muslim world when they realize we're in three major countries well i'm not even counting yemen i'm counting somalia or libya that it just really does look like the invasion the so we always thought that some of the blood was claiming was coming there you go jack you just summed it all out that basically the u.s. has problems our own making and we'll have to wait and see how long until the u.s. is saying that the new libyan regime that it installed as a threat that that may be next time thanks for being on the south. so much. now still ahead here he attacked the president for having a harvard degree at harvard advisors full time where must also have forgotten he has two degrees from the same school and happy hour you can avoid jail time and one alabama town if you start attending church the florida teacher is fired after sex the private videos and pictures are leaked is that fair well just got back in a moment.
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very first verses of the bible is that all human beings are created but so the middle came in god's image and it doesn't say just jews or god. sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a combat soldier in the occupied territories was to do with the turds doing what we call making our presence felt to go out should some bozo they hear a knock on some doors run to the other corner and they don't know how religion and nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the pro. part of what leads to. bloodshed a few more bombed and killed. a thousand four hundred people in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect on their feet you have to be either extremely naive or extremely stupid to. assure a religious jew calling another jew and not the way they really are so that.
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too much brighten. from silence to. screen stunts on t. r i cries it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to mitt romney the g.o.p. presidential candidate has a long history of flip flopping on issues remember rick perry try to score some points on mitt's history of flip flopping in the last debate. is it the mitt romney that was on the side of against the second amendment before he was for the second amendment was it was before he was before the social programs from the standpoint of he was for stand you know for roe versus wade before he was against
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versus roe versus wade but he was for race to the top he's. for obama care and now he's against it. ok that makes me feel better about any time that i ever flub on air now despite perry getting a little lost with his flip flops the point was actually trying to make was the romney has a long history of changing many of his positions and in addition to changing his positions last week alone i told you about him trying to change his image romney's trying to be an every day man he's lying on airlines and eating at fast food joints while on the road and making sure that everybody knows about it now just last week romney also promised a campaign free of pandering for votes but i think the american people recognize that we're the point of crisis and they want to hear the truth and they can tell when people are being phony and are and are pandering to an audience and
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you'll see that in politics you're not going to see that my campaign. but it looks like romney has already broken that promise last thursday he was at an event in florida and he attacked president obama for having a harvard education he said obama should not be taking advice from the harvard faculty lounge and this is not the first time he's taken a swipe at obama for having a lot of grief from the ivy league school and thinking with that mentality last month during a speech on foreign policy romney said the president was weak when it comes to dealing with dictators saying that maybe what they think and that harvard faculty lounge but it's not what they know on the battlefield now romney has never served on a battlefield because he's never been in the military but that's actually not the point where we have a better one the point is that romney seems to want to make an issue with the influence of a harvard education which is bizarre considering the fact that mitt romney has not one but two degrees from harvard himself a business degree and
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a law degree and three of his sons also have degrees from harvard and i'm thinking he might be regretting his comments right about now because the democratic group american bridge is highlighting that romney donated fifty grand to harvard business school in two thousand and three and a half indian post took a look at romney's donations and found he has received upwards of fifty six thousand dollars from that harvard faculty he thinks is so horrible and their spouses since two thousand and two so could it be that he is taking the advice of the harvard faculty to do we think romney should probably stop trying to disavow is past an education for political gain because the cat's out of the bag he should give up on trying to convince the american people that he is the every man because what americans want is honesty and that is why we are giving tonight's tool time award to mitt romney.
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all right joining me tonight for happy hour is our t.v. . jenny churchill and derek thompson is back he's a senior editor at the atlantic guys thanks for being here so a florida teacher this goes along with everything where it happens in florida stories her name is natalie santa gaga she was fired recently after a video mysteriously surfaced of very engaging in some questionable activities during non-school hours take a look trust shattered after videos of fourth grade teacher natalie santa got a surface that district staff suggest is of drug use and sex acts these actions argue some parents aren't an example to follow. all right guys what do you think she was fired over that video i mean. it wasn't just that video that wasn't that wasn't the steamiest part of the video jenny. no actually there were some second sex acts involved it's a really complicated case because what you're talking about here is a woman doing things supposedly illegal they say she was smoking marijuana it's
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also alleges she could have just been smoking cigarettes that she rolled herself but you know having sex with her significant other and they were sent to the school board and she was fired the tricky part is they were posted on you tube where students could have seen her doing these things which leads to kind of an awkward situation in the classroom i don't know what do you think what i think i think it's a complicated situation for the administrators because in the one hand you know sleeping with your spouse isn't shouldn't be a fireable offense in the us i don't think but on the other hand it's not that complicated to say if you're going to be doing these kind of things in your teacher just do them but don't film them right yeah i think that the film in part is tricky but i think that you shouldn't lose your job for having sex with your spouse even if there's a video of it the problem is that if it's true that there is footage of her on ambiguously smoking marijuana that's a tough thing to say. there's a teacher and to be fair to her she did pat she did recently take a drug test and she did pass it and they have no proof that that's what she was
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doing great to me the real issue here is that there is a video of her having sex with someone on youtube and she's a fifth grade teacher. and i'm sorry fifth graders know what sex is ok they know what youtube is they can go watch their teacher have sex on you tube tacky yes take it down probably if you're going to fire prove that those drugs were drugs that's what i have to say and we have to move on so i get final word on that a lot of criticism has formed around school lunches speaking of schools this one is not to do about sex but this has to do with statistics showing how unhealthy school lunches are it's gotten so much attention there's even a reality show about it. pizza for breakfast. you know more years i've never seen pizza give me some breakfast as well this is ok so you think you just say that this is true of america but the fries go there's about you that's right and what's wrong with that what's wrong with that was right about would you eat them. ok you heard me said that it fries count as a vegetable those people at the school lunch room well now the u.s.d.a. wants to prove that that is wrong they want to ban potatoes from school breakfast
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aka tater tots and limit them during lunch is also with french fries because studies show that fried potatoes are not healthy and what you think i think i think jamie oliver actually has is her in the right place i mean we should want our kids to eat healthy and everyone benefits when you know these kids grow up and they eat healthy and they don't have diabetes that's wonderful there's a reason to go nuclear on this and ban potatoes from schools there's actually lots of there's lots of really it's not they actually want to remove all potatoes let's get this right they want to remove all potatoes from breakfast and limit any potatoes in lunch to two times a week so what that sounds great to hear you think all day does or not there's lots of the really simple ways you can get kids to eat healthy it actually comes from behavioral economics if there's a study that shows that if you just shine a light on a banana or piece of fruit right by the place the kids are about to start their car to leave with their lunch tray eating that banana food goes up fifty percent if you put in the salad bar in the middle of the room as the kids have to walk around did
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you get that selling bar increases by seventy percent a lot of times really sales market. really elsewhere where is that been tested that we know to get killed i mean i don't i won't have the kind of backlash the you will have if you ban tater tot how public still just don't give them tater tots don't give in if it was not give them a mind let's think for them no it was not mine it is not a liar then you learned you when you went to school what food did you eat the lunch that my mother packed and if i had i don't eat this all and i was an artist. what would be that that's a lie when i mean there's no law that's why would i want to school i ate school lunches every single day i would beg my parents please pack my food my friends are so cool they get packed lunches i never got a packed lunch nothing has changed and nothing has changed in school lunches over the last sixty years however it has even because they're not doing anything we're attacking right now they are eating you know they're eating their own for
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lunch or you did the same food they're not getting off their butts and getting outside but we do want to. let them get on what they're watching both things are actually true there's absolute proof that kids are getting less exercise today than they were thirty years ago and there's also pretty clear evidence that they're eating much worse foods they were thirty years ago we can solve this thing from both ends i don't i'm just saying if we know that tater tots probably aren't good for kids there are two ways we can try to solve this problem you tried it out so no it says it is illegal to serve tater tots the public school which strikes me as a little bit your county and or we can try to find interesting intriguing and innovative ways to get kids to eat more healthy in a way that doesn't invoke the ire of every parent ok i know i did right and i got restored to the have to move on i'm so sorry genuinely getting lost that even next time that's a problem all right not at school ok speaking of eating at home or school you could have the option to go eat somewhere else instead of jail if you are punished for a crime in alabama you can go to church one alabama town is giving nonviolent offenders that option. operation restore our community or rock begins next week
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when the city judge will give misdemeanor offenders a choice go to jail and pay a fine or go to church every sunday for year. ok so if you go to church you have to check in every week and a pact with the pastor and you know if you you show up every time your case will be dropped after a year good deal or completely wrong to have the courts do this. i think it's really complicated and i think in this particular area it's a big problem specifically because they don't have any mosques or temples for jewish the i mean it's obviously a christian thing go to church be better which i have an issue with i do however salute judges who are trying to find creative ways to keep people from jail i don't think play and derek we have just a little bit of time but i want you to get your thoughts and i actually i actually pretty much agree with you on this issue i'm like eating tater tots in public schools i like the fact that the judge has been created in terms of coming up with
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punishments that we actually that that work in behavior and so actually might have a chance of reforming this guy at the same time skirting this church state border by forcing him to go to church as opposed to forcing him to work out of the gym or forcing him to see a psychiatrist two things have nothing to do with a separation of church and state that might have been both innovative and legal right innovative and legal i don't think that this alabama judge it's on the mark i don't know about the church thing but thank you guys for being on happy hour it was interesting debates tonight all right that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in make sure to come back tomorrow alone i will be back looking for you in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of be alone or on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other night you can catch it all on youtube dot com slash show we post all of the interviews as well as the entire show on the site so you can go back and re watch the news coming up next.
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