i don't want really happening to the global economy with my stronger no holds barred look at the global financial headlines cars report on our. air moscow this is the prime minister of green says he's confident his country for the crisis is headed toward the german chancellor the greek finance minister and to come from will receive the next batch of bailout loans installing to avoid a potentially disastrous to the. u.n. security council prepares to submit the palestinian statehood bid for recognition despite his objections from israel and the us which is valid to visit the palestinians can still get a partial recognition from the general assembly where they've already got

a majority of supporters. and nine out of ten new jobs in the u.k. are being taken up by immigrants it comes as the country struggles to create new work to me that's tonk rising unemployment partially caused by spending cuts. take share on the aussie because the reports today max and stacey explain why americans plans to lower costs have failed to reassure investors. this is the kaiser report let's twist again. this year we're well during the truest max this is operation twist i'm going to show you what operation twist is right. well i am

a member nike i've got a pin i got a monkey i got some trial sticks. some twigs yanna dice oh yeah this is apparently operation twist max tell us more headline reads operation twist fails to reinsure investors. back somehow all this stuff did not. impress investors but the fed is feeling ben bernanke is failing. in providing price stability and wage wage stability in america and he's trying to turn as you point out junk into something that will provide collateral for a banking system that's collapsing and the market is saying we recognize that you're a fool ben bernanke and we're crashing well this quote comes from alan blinder a professor at princeton university in the is

a former vice chairman of the fed and he said through operation twist bernanke he is throwing sticks and stones and peashooters and b.b. guns and whatever he's got that we could khana me in the effort to make marginal improvements i don't expect any miracles from it and frankly neither do they so max we see this that often we see this junk shot over and over in the last two or three years as the whole financial system collapses but as all of our systems class we saw the junk shot in the gulf of mexico with b.p. we saw the junk shot in fukushima the junk bonds have been replaced with actual junk from the junk yard and the problem is this operation twist which for viewers who may be joining us late this is an attempt by the fed to force down long term interest rates by selling the short term paper usually it's the other way around so that's why they give it the same twist why because interest rates are at zero already so they're digging deep into their bag of tricks to try to keep rates at zero of course rates at zero zero interest rate policy or zirp is the cause of the

problem so the very fact that bernanke is trying to exacerbate of the problem for gasoline on the fire of artificially low rates by figuring out ways to keep rates even lower shows that either a he's a moron b. he's a tyrant see. both. well the fed itself said on their website that the program should help lower costs for home loans corporate bonds and other consumer and business lending the plan will provide additional stimulus to support the economic recovery but the effect is difficult to estimate precisely but we do share the problem. here take one of your props here this red rubber ball best kind of process monetary policy oh ok so i go to e bay and i put this on e bay an archon this off i could get at most twenty cents for this on

e bay if goldman sachs takes this down to the first if it'll give them twenty billion dollars for the same item that's inherent problem with the american global economy the banks privileges with the central banks or they can give them anything whether it has value or not and the fed gives them trillions and trillions of easy credit so yes we're in this position and the next headline reads maps the fed disappointed the great collapse is here this is from phoenix capital research on their site gains payment capital so the fed disappointed because four hundred billion dollar. write it's not really q e three it's operation twist but the most striking thing the thing that upset the markets and sent everything down a wild spiral was that the fed downgraded its view of the economy stating that quote there are significant downside risks to the economic outlook and so for some reason the same guy with this piece shooters and b.b. guns and and all sorts of junk as we have here. some reason that these people

believe his now prognosis that it's all the combat as if the last three years as we've been saying it hasn't been all looking that well this is the charlatan aspect that goes with wall street in the fed there shamans there they're there you know snake oil salesman they there they do a dance of deception and the american people in the global community falls for every single time that's why the lottery business does so well or the casino business does so well there's a sucker born every minute and ben bernanke is the circus master who's just hinting at great things to come while standing peoples' money all the while well phoenix capitol says that many people will lose everything in this mess yes everything in the us is going to be defaulting on its debt paper currencies around the world will fail it's going to be a dark dark time max up people are liquidating portfolios as funds are

liquidating institutions are liquidating or selling everything to raise cash and they're throwing gold and silver out as well during this liquidation and this gives people who haven't participated yet in gold and silver a golden opportunity to load the boat with the only currency left standing when this should bank finally is over the dollar of course is something that people are running to but these are like the people on the shore of the indian ocean running into the tide as the tide pulls back and not knowing that behind that is a tsunami of money in this case that is going to swamp them well let's turn to the original dr doom with this is do me prognosis here and his thoughts on gold not selling my gold because i think in the long run they will print money i saw as markets in the world are about on another plane train three percent even the republicans will write the latest afraid you have to ease yours out and. oh they

can sit back and say don't east we have gone enough but as soon as i said prices go down and the economy's weak everybody will applaud their fate if the principal only mark. world class macro analyst the only ph d. in the economic space that i trust and he's got a track record of performance to back it up and he makes the same point i just made but in a really interesting accent but what about what he's saying because it isn't this the case that this is how markets this is how our economies have been hijacked and markets fall ten or twenty percent everything. and everybody says calls their congressman says do whatever it takes to get ben bernanke you to do whatever it takes to save the bankers and therefore save me am i for a long way but goes back to nine hundred eighty seven in the crash of eighty seven when reagan robert rubin and alan greenspan ben chairman of the federal reserve got

together and they started to buy the stock market the s. and p. futures on the day after the famous crash of eighty seven and this was beginning of the working group on markets or the plunge protection team as it's called and from then until now that fund that slush fund that the government uses to fix prices has grown exponentially sound the hundreds of trillions of dollars and most of it's in the shadow banking system and the result is no more legitimate price discovery all prices and all the exchanges are now manufactured and they manufacture these prices largely for the effect of propaganda this is financial propaganda it's a new a park in the history of propaganda and it's conducted principle in the united states max actually i have another problem in this pile of junk on my table and this this junk dollar yeah i noticed one thing here it has the pyramid of course everybody knows that the pyramid on the back well that's in line. next headline oh

ok b.m.w. town crashes in pyramid for all odd yes ben bernanke used pyramid fraud scheme isn't the only one going for as long as anyone can remember she's a town in china has been poor the village is little more than a dusty grid of brick shacks and its residents live on an average of just a thousand pounds a year but this spring a miraculous transformation occurred the locals suddenly noticed that they were rich we have become a b.m.w. town declared one shocked a villager in the local internet forum well it turns out that it was a guy named king claw and he returned to the village from beijing and her defense assoc idea he took the villagers savings which amounted to fifty five million dollars and he promised them interest rates of ten percent on their savings what he did with it is lent out a thirty percent to property developers who built all these fantastic apartment developments which nobody could afford to buy so the whole pyramid fraud collapsed

clause ran from john law. this is a classic example of a parent's game a ponzi scheme and of course it involves real estate which was the favor instrument of a ponzi scheme favored by alan greenspan and ben bernanke when they artificially dropped interest rates after the nine eleven attacks remember to prove to the world that america still had what it takes to be the biggest consumer and polluter in the world they drop rates down to one percent and this only this real estate bubble people of course love the idea of buying real estate for no money down and that created the final stage of the final blow out of the final bubble that we're now living with the consequences today that will never ever be paid back unless there's a global cooperation reconfiguration other global currency grid and it's all that happens just expect this depression to get deeper into max how is king clause any

different from chair. ben bernanke because here is the guy who used this pyramid scheme in order to foster a housing bubble in this remote town the same thing is happening in the u.s. and this is what operation twist is about this is what all of this junk is for ben bernanke on the u.s. federal reserve website he says it's in order to encourage more housing lending warg its lending that's what he wants how is it any different from king claw it is no different you're absolutely correct stacy herbert the number one concern of ben bernanke is to get the housing market reinflated and he's doing this by trying to expand the base of the pyramid scheme and ways finding is that there are no more suckers and they fail to admit that they've reached the end of the line for this particular chapter in the american pax americana pyramid nightmare and the world will continue to suffer and so there is a massive void of u.s.

treasury bonds and the u.s. dollar which we're seeing right now in the price of gold and so on and then at the heart of this always like the u.s. pyramid scheme and the chinese pyramid scheme at the heart of it lies a desire for german made goods that nobody can actually really afford because here's the woman's quote this quote on the website that i said we have become a b.m.w. town in our county there are now eight hundred b.m.w.'s and six hundred mercedes cars were injured out fifty porsches thirty jaguars and one ferrari one lamborghini and one montserrat crustacean and generic but that's again you know everybody wants with these they're fake pyramid schemes to get real goods and services that only the germans apparently are the only people making anything everybody is turning to germany saying please you guys make stuff that we want please continue to accept their confetti or junk all our sticks and stones and and b.b. guns for your goods is one of the silver bullet of solution for america in the

global economy apple opened the car manufacturing plant in detroit. manufactured by americans thank you states so much for being on the kaiser report you're welcome back don't go away much more coming your way don't even go to your flight it's been cancelled. twenty years ago this country. this. was how did. you get

a job. where. the. welcome back to the report i'm max kaiser i've got i'm here. welcome to kaiser report oh thanks for having me on spec task they are here in the studio i want to jump right to actually our last question from a tweeter who wants to know do you ever sleep. years unfortunately i do i try not to but i have to do a few hours it's ok i try as hard as i can if you could you'd like to be tweeting or commenting twenty four ideally that would be an ideal situation ok fantastic so tell me we just heard from alan blinder he's the former fed chairman he's talking about operation twist and he's saying if you think of sticks plastic pigs twigs b.b. guns for monetary policy he's making fun of the whole thing saying the collateral

is worthless your thoughts i mean i actually technically he's kind of he's right in the sense that i think operation twist isn't really going to do anything for anyone impaired will be pretty minimal and the idea that lowering interest rates is going to have a big impact at this point when they're already at record lows it was you know kind of a joke it's a superficial being in is this expectation of the fed to act when things aren't going well so that it's kind of i guess a signal that the fed isn't totally to launch button terms or i would be very surprised if it had a real positive impact well some whatever second to follow up on that point because you said that the expectation that the fed can do something kind are running out now we go back. to the. greenspan put during the whole one nine hundred eighty s. and the time markets were faltering alan greenspan would lower interest rates something markets would catch a big trade higher bernanke inherited that legacy but it seemed as though the fed's

ability to stimulate these markets is finished is over is that kind of what you're alluding to kind of seems like that own especially i mean look certainly the markets reacted positively to q e two and q e one and this is probably too early to say verdict yet on operation twist but even burning he himself seems to be kind of skeptical he gave it he gave a speech a few weeks ago which was basically saying if we're going to do anything it's to be fiscal policy spend more basically trying to kick it back over to congress so i think even he doubts that at this point monetary policy is a great tool well it's still possible all day the fed could juice the stock market if that's all he was going for now your own role over there business insider dot com you're the deputy editor correct yeah now business insider is primarily focused on if maybe if i'm wrong but there's a big emphasis on technology oh woods kind of having to have there's a there's a kind of there's a tech side and then there's like the finance economy there's

a huge tech component and the tech component we know in the states it begins in the venture capital area it goes through financing rounds or then we end up on nasdaq with an i.p.o. hopefully this is the exit strategy for the the c. investors the venture capital investors ok i want to ask you specifically about one company and get your thoughts on it because there's a big debate out there groupon ok it's pretty i.p.o. they turned out a six billion dollar offer from google they attempted to go public at a twenty thirty billion dollars valuation there's one school of thought that is looking at groupon end the words ponzi scheme have been mentioned yeah is this a fair unfair he was. trysting argument. is that you know the original investors have taken a lot of money out of a company already they've already made tons of it and so the company has never been profitable and yet you have early players including the c.e.o.

who have already cashed not totally cashed out or anything but if you know taken a lot of cash out and there's so now they're still cash hungry but it's not a ponzi scheme in less there is no business there and there is a business there and they're making more and more money from their existing customers have excellent customer loyalty growth are still crazy businesses generally still like a dog there are issues and lots of competition so it's not a ponzi scheme because there is a real business and i think the what people are talking to when they mention ponzi scheme is the fact that the lack of really they repeat customers in other words they make a big splash think it's not is yes it's not that bad actually they make their repeat customers are. that is the big controversy the question is do they need to just keep adding customers in order to make that that's right that would be the utility if they were to shut down customer acquisition right now yet and just you know with the customers they have would they be able to have

a business and there's an argument today would actually it's not clear that they have to. keep spending like crazy but that is certainly their plan and their plan is to raise a lot of money from the i.p.o. and to and without that i.p.l. money is the company still was a year from now. is it would be very days or burning for a lot of money ok fair enough let's talk about french banks for a second for morgan stanley hugely exposed to french banks is it too big to fail can u.s. banks survive a french banking collapse sort of the cross-currents there i would say all the morgan stanleys too big to fail and a sense that if it were to have a failure like lehman and i don't think it's going to be surprised if it did. it would certainly have huge ramifications on the financial system you know there is this talk that it's exposed to french banks that might be overblown in the sense that you know all kinds of banks have huge notional exposures to various things

where in fact when you look at hedges and how what the actual risk is it's a lot less. i don't i haven't done too much in the morgan stanley but i do know that it's the fear of the stock it's really been getting hammered this week and it stepping beyond you know stepping back from morgan stanley it's hard to imagine a situation which if you had failures of the big friendly banks b.n.p. par so as a general the rest of them it's hard to imagine the u.s. financial system not really getting hurt i mean. right this worked in teaching it is one comes up all the banks are connected on the back and now gordon brown former prime minister of u.k. referred to formally in the record of the shadow banking system there's widespread understanding that there is this dark the dark pools the shadow banking system multi-trillion dollar kind of back channels connecting all these banks are a lot of this debt is off balance sheet so to speak and the idea is that banking is trying to shovel cash in the front door while the back room the off balance sheet

accounts are blowing up and you can't seem to match the two is that a fair characterization i mean i think the easiest way to think about it is that everyone wants cash right or you know when we're in times like these when people or you know people get nervous. sir things are actually going bust as they are in greece everyone just wants cash which isn't the role of the federal reserve bank historical a it says the job to take a punch ball away when a party gets too good now for twenty years for ten years they haven't taken that concept all the way they keep throwing more they keep spiking it with more cheap money at what point do they get responsible. you know obama was talking of volcker when he came into office but he never there's really no reason yet i mean there's no question that what the terms haven't been good no one in a row says i mean the last couple years have been ok for the economy but certainly i mean when we've been told by taking the punch bowl way well that would have meant

like prior to the housing crisis the feds should probably have been more proactive . to see that there was too much bad lending going on because that's essentially what that means essentially means there's you know the fed needs to step in when. there's too much credit creation inflation and we really haven't been like that in a while and certainly haven't been like anywhere near too much lending since the crisis or since the crisis that it's not a solution to just keep rates low forever. it's certainly not going to fix the economy but it has kept the financial system alive which is i would argue pretty important isn't there a case to be made that as you point out the credit has been in short supply during this crisis but in do large part not to an economic slowdown necessarily or a business cycle trough but to outright bank fraud isn't there a case to be made that maybe someone needs to step in and bring some justice to

what are obviously some criminal activities going on in these too big to fail banks i mean it's a different things i think the reason that there isn't much lending is because the private sector households have too much legacy debt and their main. their main goal at this point is not to take on more of it it but it's you know to pay down the old debts that they rang up there may be. role for more criminal more prosecutions of the fine and you know people who are involved in the bubble and bust who say goes well when you say any other said bradley says right well it was a little ugly when you say the private sector staying out too much debt and then here j.p. morgan jamie dimon or j.p. morgan saying that well you know basil three agreement is inconvenient for us we don't really want to comply to minimum capital requirements we just want to put on as much debt as we possibly can just coming his nose at the whole idea of regulation the idea of sound banking i mean what who's going to stop and put

a twenty can on this guy he's a rogue banker he makes jerome kerviel seem like mother teresa jamie diamond. you know i actually think. i'm going to skip that and i'm just i'm sad i just give it a lot of let it go just. because you're a journalist here representing oh this is what i say the interests of the industry and i'm making a serious charge here where you guys and your business is a is a flagrant law breaker for the thousand through court licensing he's not a flipper or long breaker he's made an argument in a newspaper that a certain aspect of the regulation favored european banks over american banks he's actually he's not been he's never made the argument that you're trying to say he made which is that he doesn't believe in capital requirements or regulation he actually made a pretty specific claim that the way bezel free treated this one kind of i asked

that fundamentally disadvantaged american banks and that's all he said so i don't compare him to a rogue trader i think is a little dramatic but on this point of credit i think a key thing that people need to realize is that there's household debt and i and there's you know the supply side on the banks and there's government debt and people talk about them as though they're all the same than to just say the word there's too much debt but specifically i think the problem is not that there's too much government at least in the u.s. but there's too much household debt and that's the bottleneck for the whole economy all right we've got about a minute left i go to facebook questions one from jason bishop he asked joe wiesenthal what possible reasons are there for investors to be buying u.s. bonds and when the u.s. is the one with all the debt what kind of investors are they and the u.s. is a fantastic track record of always paying back its debt and times like this when people are panicking there is and you know you look at things that have incredible histories of preserving our money and and our liquid. which is i think why people

are dumping gold right now and i'm panicking now because because people worry about liquidity right now they want to. ash they want the most liquid they're not worried about the u.s. dollar depreciating and that's kind of like a secondary concern at times like that is they just want the most liquid stable assets they exist on stockholm syndrome i don't pull it up and let me know that's most of karl the h. i'm sorry carl it's tattooist asked why did he joe wiesenthal a few months ago still say that the bad economy is exaggerated does he live in the real world or in a computer world i live in a computer world i live in a total bubble and i live in new york where the economy is pretty good and i don't see how the real world is joe wiesenthal thanks so much for being on the kaiser report thanks for having me all right that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert and i thank my guests joe wasn't all you want to send me an e-mail please do so at kaiser report at r.t. t.v. dot ru until next time this is back i was like oh oh.

i'm.