us foreign policy walter russell mead explains to us the way the land lies for america's global future. walter russell mead thank you very much for being with us today sir good to be here it's a pleasure to use calls twenty first century the wildest roller coaster ride in the history of time i wonder what spills and thrills to expect before the ride is done well when you look at the way the internet is already changing everyone's lives you look at how migration is sending people all over the world you look at how the world economy since two thousand has just been up and down and up and down this is much more thrilling than life use to be i was in i came to this part of the world

for the first time back in the one nine hundred eighty s. and very little had happened politically for a very long time i think in some ways the unfreezing in russia began unfreezing in other parts of the world we're seeing it today in the arab spring not necessarily for better not necessarily for worse but for more interesting what do you make of the violence that there is right now in the world has it always been that way and just weren't aware or has it got to really worse well it you know it kind of ebbs and flows in the world i mean you think about china in the one nine hundred fifty s. russia in the one nine hundred thirty s. you think about germany of course in the thirty's and forty's so there's been times when the pace of death was faster than it is now but also times when it was slower . you look at the war in the congo and people say as many as two million people have been killed in a series of civil and international conflicts in the congo in the last ten years

and i'm afraid that as we have more technology. we don't become better we simply become more able to do things both good and bad that is technology doesn't change who we are as human beings but it turns up the volume so that we are able to express whatever is in us good or bad more fully so you think it brings the good that's good out of us as much as the bad as the bad we're all the same as before we are just louder. there is the belief that china is in the prior revolutionary state i wonder why does it have anything to do with the side that it's getting older faster than it's getting richer well that's a problem for china you know pre-revolutionary i don't think i've ever used quite that word but what i see is that the chinese government isn't stream really competent i have nothing but admiration for their ability to manage

a growing economy and so on and certainly you look at thousands of years of chinese history in many ways this government has delivered more for more people than any other but at the same time every success they have at fostering more growth more development means to have a more complex society which then becomes harder to to manage especially when it comes from the top down corruption becomes more of a problem i think the chinese financial system is. is in a much shakier state than might appears for a very long time the economy has been growing at ten percent a year. it's hard to lose money as a bank when the economy is growing that quickly so i think there might be a lot of stupid loans and many corrupt local officials their brother in law is getting money for something and so should something happen to not china off that

very rapid path of growth we might very very quickly see that there are many more many more problems then than it now looks like they have that in that case what the chinese revolution look like. i left my crystal ball us home. but i think what you would have is is more than a billion people all trying to live their lives in their own way and i think you have a lot of confusion you look at. chinese history and certainly before one thousand nine hundred forty nine you had a very long period of chaos and disorder before an order was formed it might take china a while but that's speculative i know that you're an advert democrat you voted for obama has said disappointed and in some ways yes in some ways no i have to say when i voted for him i didn't think oh this is the one everything is going to be perfect

i thought that he would be able to manage our foreign policy. effectively not perfectly no one and i think he has. i think we're in fairly good shape and he's been able to do some of the things that the bush administration tried to do but without all the trouble and aggravation in some ways which is good domestically i think he made some mistakes at the beginning he he thought that the country had elected him to transform the country i think he was actually look to be more like bill clinton and try to keep everything nice and so he's gotten now because he tried to do too much and do some things people didn't expect or want he's now on the defensive and this is a difficult time for him what do you think shapes the valleys of a promise administration a lot of things i think he's very much

a product of the kind of ivy league educational system. he sees himself i think is part of a new kind of america almost the millennial generation in some ways looking to build a post racial slurs. i think he does he's he's not as much on the left as some people have thought a year as i don't i don't think that's right i think he i would consider more a kind of a technocrat in the in the mold of people like mcgeorge bundy the sort of great harvard technocrats of the one nine hundred sixty s. and seventy's i think is where he is getting is going to get reelected that's very hard to say but i know that you've described the united states you and japan as financially responsible superpowers so i was wondering how do you think the world can afford to be led by responsible super powers well of course there are

a lot of financially irresponsible non superpowers too i think financially they're not superpowers right but what i guess what i'm saying is who else can it be led by that was going to my second question that if united states actually loses their leadership who would it be well that's partly why i think it may be less likely that the u.s. will lose and in some ways the dollar as a reserve currency it's the chinese are not going to internationalize theirs for a while the euro is is not really an alternative to the dollar so what is it the swiss franc the south african rand ok but do you still get a sense that the superpowers are losing says of per prince and it in fixation or not. i think that the american economy is in a period of deep restructuring if you look at the last three hundred fifty years of sort of the rise of global capitalism you'd argue that the british and the americans have we've had many financial crises ever since the south sea bob dole in

the dutch tulip bubble even in some ways and when there's a financial crisis an economic crisis some countries seem to be faster to innovate and. some countries say we knew capitalism was a terrible system all along we're going to have nothing to do with it so the argentina's ins and some others try to get away from it and then when the time comes for the next wave of growth they've isolated themselves i think the british and the americans in are still prepared to try something new my guess is that the whole world has reached a stage where the old system economic system doesn't work we don't know how to make the transition to the know we're floundering around trying to invent i think the americans are going to get there faster than some others so let me just recap because there's been a lot of talk in the past three years about the world becoming law type color. and

european things are going to stay that way they are the world order for a while well i guess what i would say is the whole the goal of american foreign policy is not actually a uni polar world i think people. think that the united states actually is more a grettir garbo and that is we would like to be left alone for example the european union from the united states point of view is the perfect solution the europeans aren't going to war with each other they aren't going to war with us they're pretty prosperous they like a lot of the things we do so the europe if the united states had a dream for europe that would be it it's ok now we have much less power in europe than we did in one thousand nine hundred five when we could decide who ate what's ok but you have much more power in other parts of the world right but again what we want to say is we would like every place to more or less be like

your happy rich at peace so that you can be left alone so right so that the world would be the way we want it to be but we wouldn't have to make it perform that's the american goal and so in that. since. multi-polar world in which most or all of the polls kind of like the american way without us makes them like it you see that's the goal and to some degree the emergence of india the emergence of europe the fact that brazil is growing into just that kind of power suggests that that we're getting that what americans would consider a banani multi-polar would be rather than say the one nine hundred forty s. when you had the soviet union germany and japan that all heat that system and are trying to destroy it how would america like to see russia. would like to see russia

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top stories. greece is rushing to reassure investors that it's worthy of the next as the prime minister says athens is doing all they can to cut costs. and prepares for talks with the mainland the germany. and syria government forces reportedly storm a key opposition town in syria after pounding in overnight with heavy machine gun fire calling on both sides to went to talks to stop the violence while rejecting western sanctions avoid a repeat of the libyan scenario. of violence flares up between serbia and breakaway course of seven kosovo serbs have been injured in a disputed border crossing and an exchange of fire between protesters and nato peacekeepers. it said twenty forty five moscow time thanks to being with us wherever in the world you're watching this country with you know she's going to school let's not waste a second now it's been a tough evening so far for moscow in the champions league yeah the few people

thought it would be as well inter in moscow was always going to be difficult perhaps not this difficult cap we're going to look at the latest score in just a second all right. thanks for joining us always great to have your company this is sport today these are some of our stories in. caucuses rich twice coming from behind to draw with. monday's russian premier league. team greens former world number one golfer tiger woods teams up with a new. following the break up of his thirteen year partnership with another bag man steve williams. rugby team enjoy a day off from talking. to accept the world cup testing their mettle at an adventure park in music. well for some and one of the biggest nights of the russian

football year is upon us european giants interop in moscow currently taking in their second shop in the group much of the season now the half time whistle well it's just about the blue of the luzhniki arena on the score is two nil to the visitors a little chill netting after just half a dozen minutes with. about twenty three minutes in. who did go into the clash with injury problems galore well into themselves are having to make do with five playmaker wesley schneider who pulled the thigh muscle last weekend. elsewhere by and munich are preparing to host champions league debutantes manchester city it's been one of the best starts to a season in the bundesliga leaders history with biron registering nine successive wins in all competitions without conceding a single goal however city are also enjoying a fine run in england topping the table with another much estar side united after six game weeks. it is always fantastic to play here because i mean.

it's an important. point and i think it is a game that is important to win if we want to improve like a team. i like to play this game and i hope that we can do very well. not believe group a with both teams seeking a first win in this year's tournament the home side aiming to improve on a goalless draw in the europa league playoffs last season which allowed the spanish club to progress on a two one aggregate scoreline though the yellow submarine languish in fifteenth place in the premier league not believe coach walter missouri maintains that that will conference nothing to. joke about when they are a good team and they proved it last year even though we played a great match when there are two or three at this level if a team competes in the champions league anything could happen they have more

experience than nurse so we need to play the best we can in order to be them. and other action on beaten trouble for a meet french champions illegal in c.s. because group manchester united go head to head with group c. leaving like basel while benfica take on the remaining new boys off to lowell record nine time type one as real madrid host i aks that spanish side lead group d. after a one zero win over to grab a fortnight ago while the bottom place croats themselves travel to seven time french champions league on. that brings us to the russian game where some evil etc scored his third goal for big spending on g. and a southern russian darby against chechen side f. c. ter rick the visiting side opening the scoring early in the first half through alexander public break from terek so fast the camera man burley caught it former manpower blanket dribbling past two defenders down the goalkeeper before finishing into the bottom left hand corner on eight minute. it took just half

a dozen minutes however to equalize aloft the bowl into the tourette penalty area eventually finding its way to at soup with the four time african player of the year making no mistake one more on how the first half ended sun indeed how it stayed for most of the second period as well and she doing most of the attacking but all action approach would leave them exposed on the back taking full advantage with just two minutes of normal time remaining substitutes soft running half the length of the field after this before firing to the back of the net that left the score two one to the visitors puts the drama wasn't finished yet the tireless mubarak five cross into joe carter who heads the ball home for the equalizer one minute into stoppage time to chew but ended up in much collide michel platini has

stated preparations are all for euro two thousand and twelve and hughes and ukraine are moving along at a satisfactory rate the u.a.e. for president though pointing out the country which will cool host the footballing event with poland still has work to do. the preparations are going very well there i would say leave the roof isn't finished now it seemed done is there are some hotels which i'm finished and unheard of the transport isn't finished these are small problems for their going is ation of the competition but today can see it was difficult at the start for ukraine and from three years ago things have gotten easier oh. rush's rift make gymnastics team have every reason to celebrate after clinching top spot at the twenty eleven world championships there are seven gold and six silver medals healed of an event in moscow and cheese they scored receiving their just rewards from sports minister for tollywood ko following this month's triumph if dimia conniver in particular drawing major pole it's for her exploits

this siberian native winning six ot of a possible six goals and france the twenty one year were not quite incredibly a seventeen time world champion in this sport. ok let's move on to goal for fourteen time major winner tiger woods has unveiled a man he hopes can return him to past glories the former world number one hiring joe like this new caddy woods fired his previous by steve williams in july after a thirteen year partnership the thirty five year old american not affiliated himself with calvin who's best known for his long term association with another former world number one frayed couples woods has been without a title for over two years on a slip to fiftieth in the world rankings since the much publicized revelations about his private life and his subsequent divorce. to be where a draw was witnessed for only the third ever time in world cup history today remarkably it was japan and canada for two stalemates the same sides who also drew

up the two thousand and seven tournament the game in napier played in perfect condition sound with the most positive of approaches come a day eventually fighting back to deny japan only a second ever world cup win twenty three apiece how it ended up after that italy ensure their qualification for the twenty fifteen games and victory over the united states the a jury also still in with a shy to meet our event in this year's quarterfinals following the bonus point win in nelson. ok let's stay at the world cup or russia's final match of the chinaman takes place on saturday against australia the players using that done time to fit in an adrenaline packed afternoon route our correspondent richard on perfect went along was let's say a reluctant participant well. it's been a tough debut world cup of the russians but they were finally given a chance to look. at lucrative venture park in route to rule. jumping off

a forty three metre platform might not be everyone's idea of fun but it certainly was for denise implicated. the twenty year old completed one lifelong ambition recently by scoring a try on his world cup debut album of course in its native also undertook his very first bungee jump however when it wasn't the only one wanting a piece of the action his fellow backed us in the team if he clearly is keen to prove himself off from among godly highlights. the northampton saints player said it was a fantastic frail. bustling i've dreamt of this there's a while before and this is a dream come true hopefully i'll have a nice strength to go to the budget over. the players were like kids in a candy store and would try the rides time after time after time. even though some of russia's challenges seem more interested in getting better

acquainted with the local animal population. england recently got roundly criticized for doing similar to tease of the russian coach kingsley jones couldn't have been more different in his approach saying it was a wonderful distraction for the players ploy i think it's important you know we've worked hard for the last. hundred twenty days and they need to refresh recharge now . she's a lot of technical things we can work on but thing is going to kill you soon make a sport of it before you're strayer's everybody fresh mentally physically and you know the mental thing mental rest and change from coaching is and getting coaching training every day is important of course this is a fantastic break from the russian players who make great use of their free time or many of whom product evictees like this for the first time in their lives but there was no way that artie's correspondent was going to get away scot free. all.

right well i'm very married now. so i'm forty meters out there. well say. i managed to live to tell the tale just a buyouts. of but didn't prove to be the end of my new found freedom seeking experience. the russian favorite it's all good decide to give it a try as well on a roll. russia number seven company so i was going to go. russia will now move to nelson on wednesday ahead of their final world cup game and when the tournament finished for them on saturday they will certainly have some fantastic memories.

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can i turn all to greece rushes to reassure investors that it's one of the of the next but the problem is to. push it off as public intent as a steady measure of for plays and we'll bring you all the latest from syntagma square. but also coming up this hour as government forces storm akil position town in syria moscow calls on both sides to talk rejecting western sanctions. ballance flares between serbia and breakaway kosovo seven cos of. the disputed border crossing. on the russian markets rallied on tuesday despite the resignation of the country's finance minister alexei pushkov more and business about twenty minutes.