well i can be alone a show where i get the real headlines with none of the mercy or if you live in washington d.c. at night we're going to ask if what this country needs is less democracy as a peter or zags aside is the only solution to our forever polarized congress just give them less power because actually work we're going to hash out the chains then occupy wall street is still going strong and in fact the ranks of replenish since this past weekend was the mainstream media is still completely missing the message here we're going to speak to sam seeder and more on the debate over internet and on any one writer argues the first amendment doesn't guarantee it but about the wrong

approach to a very serious question in our internet age we have all that and more fear not including a dose of happy hour but first take a look with the mainstream media has decided to meet its. aren't so i get it we have a presidential election coming up next year so obviously obviously there is a lot of election coverage especially when there are g.o.p. debates and we actually get a glimpse as to how these people compared one another where they stand on the issues what issues they are completely clueless about like you know foreign policy but anyway some of the coverage is necessary all the time nonstop coverage on non stories i would say not so take a look at what was all the mainstream media rage this morning. president obama is in full campaign mode as he wraps up his western swing today though is that of the race but he is in the spotlight once again we're talking about new jersey governor

chris christie last night the president went to hollywood headlining a fundraiser at the house of blues you have big speech for christie tonight where the reagan presidential library in california the life of excitement for mitt romney in the lack of ability from rick perry is giving republican donors more reason to plead governor christie to fill the g.o.p. void. i would wave beginning here let's start off with one basic fact chris christie is not running for president he said a million times and i know that people aren't satisfied of the current candidates out there and he has a really big support group a lot of people who would like to see him give the office of presidency a shot but he's not going to as he keeps repeating but i mean it's really just can't help but try to make a story out of it and act like there are new hopes you know it's not happening start getting a political story just because you have nothing better to talk about i mean really people it's just pathetic then there's the hoopla over president obama's fundraisers in california the clear support that he gets from hollywood because

let's face it hollywood is liberal when it comes to getting support from the tech crowd the industry giants like google and facebook that's where i actually could get interesting but it could get interesting because if they do support him then you can follow the money trail then you can judge as policies the legislation of his administration of holds based on who is and isn't lobbying for it and based on the cozy relationships that he may have but that kind of analysis in the mainstream media and forget about it they just like it because there are a lot of celebrities and there are cameras around and there's something flashy you know that they're on it but here's the greater problem with both of those non-stories and with the obsession over that forget about what pundits want and which ones want chris christie to run or what rich celebrity wants to put his money in obama's pocket what about average americans you know the majority population that doesn't get any of the chorus of being a member. of the rich and famous or just plain eerily powerful elites the majority of the population is affected by the policies and acted by this administration and by congress as

a whole if fifty million people are unemployed the middle class that holds the burden of paying more taxes than the wealthy those living in poverty and whose programs are being cut if there is a serious bout of frustration and anger in this country towards washington take the latest gallup poll that shows that a record eighty one percent of americans dislike the government now that's not just the president it's not just one party or the other that is all of government the whole thing that is the biggest story of this election if you ask me americans freaking hate everybody involved in this election that's a story of the mainstream media should be covering those that are focusing on who said what today who held a fundraiser where those are representative of the bigger picture but we all know the corporate media they live in a tiny little bubble the only cover is d.c. new york and occasionally hollywood but the rest of it's the record breaking dissatisfaction well that they choose to miss.

now speaking of the fact the latest gallup poll shows that eighty one percent of americans really hate their government right now let's look at one proposition to make the government more functional here or is a former office of management and budget chief for the obama administration has written an op ed entitled too much of a good thing why we need less democracy the title here is clearly a catchy one but what he poses is a little more nuanced or argues that our congress is paralyzed by gridlock apparels ation that's here to stay and so we could minimize the harm that that causes by relying more on automatic policies the politicized commissions for certain policy decisions or that actually mean that it means expanding automatic stabilisers having a progressive tax code unemployment insurance or linking the payroll tax holiday to the nym. rate so or as x. words tax and spending provisions that automatically expand on the economy weakens thereby cushioning the blow and then automatically contract on our economy recovers

thereby helping to reduce the deficit he also suggests more backstop rules things that actually take place if congress doesn't act things like the trigger effect built into the recent debt deal and finally he calls for more independent institutions and more commissions but this is approach of putting more power into the hands of even fewer people really sound like a good idea to me to discuss this is james pullos host of the bottom line and reform school on p.t.v. james i thank you so much for joining us tonight and i first want to start with you know what i think is a basic premise of sides argument here is he's just saying that he thinks that congress is so incredibly paralyzed right now because of their polarization that's why they're paralyzed can't act on anything and he thinks that it's here to stay so we have to make some kind of drastic measures we have to enact some kind of change because that's not going anywhere do you agree with that. because it is this contention you know go back a few years and republicans your control of congress and then you know that it's

just between then and now we go democrats in control and so he's things and this is an example of only missed leaders the president's citi group and he said i'm not happy with what i'm going to. get it done therefore we need to. replace it with this is. what i have to find out i want it's arguing about the fact that congress is very polarized right now and you know i think that if you look at social issues if you look at the economy that's definitely where it seems like nothing can ever get done when it comes to budgeting these days you know we've we've seen the government almost shut down a number of times here i hear they kind of just keep what you want to call it kicking the can down the road so we'll just go shopping for a little while enjoying this very very steeply politics. is in a way just a problem. call polarization and go back and look at all the murky piece of legislation that came down the pike in the past decade they tend to be bipartisan plans bipartisanship can cause just as legislated to function just notion in just

a really bad outcomes from a certain political standpoint as well as asian can and so you know i'm not convinced that all recession is the problem number one were to you to make certain things were just bull that's democracy does represent a democracy in number three that's the kind of thing you can change just in a matter of years that i can give a number of examples there when it comes to things that bipartisanship has done that have been detrimental like i don't know a lot of the wars a lot of the defense spending they keep getting approved how about the patriot act they just keep renewing those are always the areas where they seem to have this i partisan consensus but let's try to break down some of or as i've ideas here and see if we might like any of those what do you think about the fact that we should have more of these more of these trigger effects the way that we see with our current debt deal that might force some action might force some compromise because if congress just doesn't do anything if they sit around and don't act don't vote and something no matter what something's going to cut well you know much concern here this is something that he brings up it's

a couple different examples he says look you look at the regulators and then clubs can opt out but all getting together and talking to regulation on where to present a trick or treat it better it's very good it gets in the habit of saying well we're just an opt out of politics and surely we're not going to stand here until i'm sort of thinking these issues through citizenship is kind of has not something we should bother with the one we outsource everything in washington to we kind of turn off all gone and tells us what it is that you should or shouldn't receive you will get in an accident had it then you know to use responsible regulators kitchen into its worst terrorists. well so then yeah if we go by his policy of also having are these independent institutions or independent commissions you know i one hand we've seen a number of commissions we see obama administrations deficit reduction commission that came out with a plan and that test went to put nothing happened with it and sometimes it's a little frustrating because you wish that they might have more teeth which might people actually or people might actually take them into consideration but do we

want more supreme courts he uses that argument as well as these here are saying of her supreme court nine people that's a good example of another one of these commissions do we want more of small elite groups that are making all the decisions and their solution isn't to try to new or disturb the supreme court as it is a branch of government you find in the constitution right regulators are not a creature if you know exists in the constitution that you have constitutional authority congress can delegate only certain things it's bushes for we can we want congress to get away just because a certain sitting funders isn't getting the job done as far as i'm consumers fair is your concern is being who should repent of the constitution also your needs and start tearing up whatever it is that you thought oh one point that i think it's fair serious and it says here is you know when he's talking about blocking legislation it's all you want it presidents signing away whatever it is the regular students on campus here and he says it's beginning of the piece is all virtually all clues to that we need

a much bigger deficit short term much smaller ones which are. the rule net result. is different set of operating exceptions but number two it was a possibility which i think is more the possibility that also himself is operating under basic political principles great he's a political idea about what makes for the kind of picture you should need it is a political idea look produces the right kind of human solution to the political idea about which people should suffer during bad times and you pretend that he doesn't pretend this is just a scientific consensus right goes farther than any suppose it's going to be consensus that people are always criticizing for the right. if you think that is a questionable scientific you should really look at the second one step because at the end of the day that matters even more to our day to day lives than whether or not certain environments regulations. the right therapy or as ag has a political agenda he makes it very clear as to what he thinks the economic policies are that need to take place here but one of the things he also says he's

not doing this you know supposedly he isn't coming up with these ideas and advocating for a less democracy because he just feels so inspired by the solutions but because he feels so frustrated it's like you want to bang your head against a wall and just try to come up with any solution you know or try to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks do you think for that's a good way to legislate mean is that is that you're rational to try to change the system in that sense or sometimes out of frustration do we see the most meaningful change revolution occurred perhaps. oh i see cause it was coming from the bottom up you see meaningful change but it's restoration but when it comes from the top down it's usually elites frustrated that they're not getting their way and so as you know has or so you know suggest with a straight face is welsh just rot around you should do an end run around citizenship if institution you should set up sort of curled around this room by elites who are trustworthy. you are saying it to morrow it might be the political enemy right there's that it will you dig more politics you find its politics all

the way down you must it. not to mention i think of us to our side must have missed this latest gallup poll or the latest polls that we've seen over the last six eight months maybe even a year americans are to feel like there is a leading group of people that run this country why eighty one percent of them disapprove of washington as a whole of our government as a whole both parties congress and the presidency and yet here he is suggesting quite the opposite so i guess maybe we can say it's just a little bit of poor timing you know in his case to try to come up with these types of ideas because i don't think thirty million children tend to pretend it's only conservatives or or something actually the right is responsible for these others only we got these meals nasty ignorant and serious characters and the way we could share of selves into this utopian regulation it is it's ridiculous independents democrats split up it is it or it was. president citi group all right thanks

so much for joining us tonight everybody is at fault i have with you there thank you. that's out of cons and i think they see republicans wage war and women's reproductive rights this year but once they could take it even farther than everyone else forgive me tales we return and while the mainstream media continues to mis understand the occupy wall street protests will have an update on the cause that's spreading across the country back in just a moment. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think the rock the bombings beautiful and funny well. whenever the government says there's the keep them safe get ready because you're going to lose your freedom.

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly is if you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's some other part of it and realized everything is are you going to charge bloggers a big picture. see. if you just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old i'm going to tell the truth. i confess and i am a total get over friends that i love rap and hip hop music and pretty soon.

he was kind of the guest today. i'm very aware of the agency it's a place. well the extreme nationwide movement to invade women's rights has hit yet another state planned parenthood has been pretty easy target on the federal level groups across the country been working to enact laws to stop women from seeking abortions on a state level finding states to be an easier battleground if i win now one of the worst intensive instances of anti-abortion legislation comes from the state of mississippi this november the personhood amendment is going to be on the ballot there this amendment is going to change the definition of personhood from beginning at birth to starting at the moment of fertilization so just let that sink in for

a second the moment of fertilization how do you know when that happens now if it passes it's going to make all abortions in this state illegal including those instances of rape or instance incest and many are already questioning if the wording of this bill would have an effect on birth control and in vitro fertilization as well mississippi as a state is already extremely hostile in his reproductive rights for example there's only one planned parenthood in the entire state but the campaign of pastors personhood amendment take a ballot question twenty six thousand moving across the street for months check out this clip from a local c.b.s. affiliate. ok the curse of the limit which is number twenty six on the ballot this fall the amendment decides who person is a human being it certainly is a sure of course is based on one big lie it's not a person in the picture is worth a thousand years. now the bills game celebrity support from the american family association mike huckabee and even brett farve is white however it's actually the brainchild of grange activists lez riley has passed affiliations reported on by

mother jones sees spearhead of a campaign called the conceived in rape tour which thousand saying that is about as extreme as other causes from the past riley's been a member of league of south an organization in favor of the south seceding and becoming its own country built on biblical law he was also a blogger for a christian exodus a group that wanted to form a christian nation after america's lack of morality killed the empire so now they have a glimpse into this man's history the fact that he's gone as far as he has with his ballot measure is quite frankly very scary and other states we were appalled when there was a talk of forcing women to view altar cells listen to heartbeats of forgetting abortion but here mississippi is actually proposing that any type of fertilized egg a female no matter what the circumstance is protected under law and i for one hope the personhood amendment doesn't see the light of day but only time is going to help the people of mississippi feel the same way. well occupy wall street protests that began on september seventeenth keep going this weekend hundreds more joined

the movement some reports saying there was up to one thousand people and this weekend we also saw more than eighty people get arrested as well as the disturbing images of the n.y.p.d. getting violent the case of one officer vicious after video appeared to be walking up to group of women who were corralled pepper spraying them and then walking away the it. the i'm the boss. and with the interactions between protesters and police heated up we finally saw the mainstream media begin to pay the movement any attention famous faces like michael moore and chris hedges also stopped by to pledge their support and now activists in cities across the u.s. are also joining and starting small movements where they are now much longer do you think is going to continue and what's the view like from the place of the protest earlier i caught up with sam seeder host of the majority report out majority f.n.

and co-host of ring of fire and he was there today in the comedy park but first i asked him to tell us what the scene was like how many people and what the loot is like after all the arrest that happened this weekend. yeah it's pretty amazing actually there were hundreds of hundreds of people there who were part of the protests and hundreds more who were just checking out the protests and the mood is actually really great people were very excited when i was down there susan sarandon stopped by last night is you know well you know i'm michael moore was was in the park and there's a real sense that they're actually getting better at what they're doing they're they're getting more organized they're getting their message out and. they seem very determined to be there for the long haul what do you think of their getting their message out you know this is a moment that we've been covering here on our show since the first day that it

started i know that you've been talking about of the mainstream media not so much but of course after we thought of violence we thought the least the typical you know if it bleeds it leads scenario then and now suddenly the mainstream media is all over the story but i still feel like a lot of the coverage is based on the protesters their interactions their clashes with the cops less so than the message yeah i mean you know in many ways this is sort of something that's very difficult for the corporate media to cover because they don't have a singular message as of yet i mean they're they're organizing and they're developing a process in which to present one but i mean let's be honest if they had specific demands they would be nord anyway and i think the real message that's coming out of this park is that there are a lot of people who are really upset with what's going on in this country in terms of the financial industry in terms of the accountability for them in terms of money in this country having an inordinate amount of political power and these people are

expressing that they've had enough and so are a lot of these people that i spoke to the the process of our governance is what is really at the heart of the matter and that doesn't make for very. and so i think the media is has a has trouble goes grasp of what's going on there because there is no ready. message them and frankly i think they also they just discount the relevance of hundreds of people. and thousands of people protest but i wonder if it's because the media is just too connected with those people that are so far removed from i guess you could say the general population is because we do see a lot of populist anger right now towards washington towards wall street and yet at the same time i'm going to play you a clip here new york mayor michael bloomberg from on meet the press this weekend we got a totally different perspective and he by the way originally started out by saying that new york would be open to these protesters they have the freedom of speech but

then when it comes to actual policy making wall street they listen to what he had to say. well nobody has any confidence if you're a bank and you have money would you make a line when people are talking about putting you in jail for what happened for the mortgage crisis three four years ago you hunker down and. i have prepared yes this study i mean it really is stunning i mean i don't know what it you know first of all what banker responds to a business environment by what people are saying about it i mean it is it's just it's ludicrous the child knows it's not the way that business works the reason why the banks aren't alone in money is because a we don't have enough aggregate demand in the country these are sitting on a ton of cash because they expect things to get worse and they think that's going to be helpful and and look they're they're going out there are we still are still seeing the same type of mortgage fraud that has been taking place and still see the

robo signing so you know michael bloomberg is really just carrying water for the talk receiving this country and to large extent that's what people are protesting down in what they call liberty square and they may not be as. studied and researched and know what they're needing necessarily but they know there's a real problem and i think bloomberg there are you know unwittingly described i mean the notion that these institutions which caused the financial meltdown are their feelings are hurt and that's why they're not loaning money is ludicrous. yeah their feelings are hurt they have this fake sense of fear as to possible prosecution which is i don't know where that's coming from because washington definitely isn't pushing in that direction and you know one of the things too is that we've seen this thread through other cities across the us other cities are now trying to join in this occupy wall street movement with more protests going on here and there i want to critique that i've heard is that you know maybe they've got too

big with his protest maybe they should have started small started local or somewhere where they could actually have disrupted the happenings rather than just automatically going to walk free or let's face it you just get carted off at a park what do you think about that well look you know. we went out there to check out the scene last friday and there were more people here on tuesday then there were on friday and so i'm not convinced that you can you can actually write the the real analysis of what's happening yes i think it's growing and. you know listen c.n.n. and c.n.n. dot com last week had a story that they were following and they were covering a whole bunch of tea partiers who are meeting and this is not a joke we're meeting in a denny's to come up with their own super committee now i'm sorry if gunship tea partiers organize you know danny presumably not going to stay over night probably

just for the birthday or whatever it is maybe lunch warrants coverage then certainly what's going on down there just in terms of you know when i spoke to these people there was not one of them that suggested they were going to leave and so unfairly convinced that we're just at the beginning and it's not nothing. well and that's what a lot of people you know are trying to say to including michael moore including chris had his walking down and participated this week and of course going to see a lot of people here in washington october sixth now last night you know we saw a lot of i guess if they violence we saw one cop this weekend who pepper sprayed a group of women that were corralled and i know it doesn't represent all of the n.y.p.d. but this happens to be one cop that had civil rights lawsuits there has been you know the target of them before in the past so how does that one see it reflect on the entire force out there after this weekend well you know i don't know i don't more important than just one individual it was

a supervisor in from everything that i've been hearing. the the the the cops on the street the blue guys wearing the blue shirt women wearing the blue shirt to me while i was down there broadcasting this afternoon we saw a couple cops and just walk in through taking pictures with people and wanted to get a glimpse of those susan sarandon they were talking to the protesters the protesters have pretty good relations with a lot of these cops because got to remember you know a lot of these cops their house is in foreclosure in new york state around the country. where the pensions are under pressure and so i think you know a lot of this is coming more from supervise you can see and so i don't i don't know how this reflects on the n.y.p.d. as a whole but clearly the message needs to be sent out in the middle of the management of the police department and you've got to control yourselves because people seen that video it's fairly clear that it was no provocation for using. our

family thank you so much for joining us tonight. my pleasure. now earlier tonight we have our tuesday edition of show and tell and then online and on and it will be forced to reveal our real names over on line as a topic that will dive in school in just a moment if you're in the sanchez research fellow at the cato institute they went so. let's not forget that we have an apartheid regime right.

i think iraq is needed and wanted well. we never got the book says they're very confused safe get ready you can hear the air freedom. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so foolish you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here see some other part of it and realized everything you saw you don't know i'm trying hard look at the big picture.