he just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old i like to tell the truth live. i confess and i am a total get of friends that i love that make up is second line for. he was kind of yesterday. i'm very proud of the role that algis you it's played. look look look look look look. times are showing sell on tonight's program last time we told you about the g.o.p. accusing president obama of engaging in class warfare after he posed the buffett

rule so do you think obama is a class warrior or producer patrice and send you to find out what you have to say. we keep hearing allegations that obama is waging closet warfare but what does that really mean anything with the word war and it can't be good for anyone on either side right unless of course you're on the side of republicans trying to stir up some votes you know i'm not sure anyone really believes putting up or i guess millionaires is a fair fight. do americans look at the warfare label and see something real or the same old political warfare well joe said i think obama should be judged by what he does instead of what he said and based on what he does he is a warrior for the elite then a greets obama is definitely waging class warfare on the poor who benefits from the wars bailouts fewer freedom left less oversight and a super congress those super rich order said he says he's just playing to the polls that showed large majorities favor higher taxes on the rich is just another

campaign gimmick what's interesting is that none of your responses seem to take these allegations of class warfare against the wealthy too seriously no one said that this was a step towards socialism maybe it's because average americans realize that raising taxes on the wealthy doesn't amount to a got duration of war and a country of shrinking income and opportunity our tax code is one problem at a many calling it a war just distracts from the central problem that our government doesn't seem willing or able to actually do what it takes to create more jobs. now as always thank you for your responses and here's our next question for you earlier in the show we spoke with radio host sam seeder about the occupy wall street protests it's . answer now cross the country and numbers might be small for now but after this is the borders claim this is just the beginning so what do you think could this be the beginning of the american spring so to speak you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and you know the response just like making money. now it comes

to the threads we know they'll do almost anything to catch a person of interest even if they have to do that unconstitutionally in the past we've told you about the f.b.i. placing g.p.s. trackers on a suspect vehicles out of warrant that's an issue that's making its way up through the courts as we speak but what about trapping you using your cell phone we've spoken with security and privacy researcher christoffersen going on about how companies like true position and created technology designed to track individuals based on their cell phone locations. so what they do is they draw a virtual fence around. a facility a military base you know any place of interest and troop positions software can allow the phone company to sport new devices whenever they enter the virtual perimeter. social position is a company that sells these tracking devices to other countries but now looks like similar types of technology are being used right here at home details are emerging about a tracking system used by the feds called sting ray similar to what they're going to scribe but this device acts as if it were a cell phone tower and it intercepts your phone signals using pings so the sting

ray determines the strength of your cell phone signal through sonar technology so your cell phone constantly sends out a signal and based on how long it takes for the receptor in this case the sting ray to receive that signal from your cell phone can easily be found at the location of it and the worst part here is that even if you're not using your phone to actually make a phone call the feds can still find out exactly where you are posting to a device is made by a florida based company called harris and up until recently the feds use some devices like these have been kept very hush hush the wall street journal reported during a federal case against an alleged hacker the rig made in the accused was curious as to how exactly law enforcement tracked him down and in so court the prosecution sought to keep that information off the record and official from the f.b.i. explain that it's considered a law enforcement sensitive since its public release could harm long foresman efforts by compromising future use of the equipment for the grads don't want to reveal how they operate surprise surprise so now we know how this works is this

practice of tracking individuals without a warrant even legal because obviously don't feel the need to use a warrant with a sting ray technology but in the past law enforcement said that this is a concern of wiretapping because it's not actually intercepting any sort of communication had on the cell phone just your location data and the feds used to have to get yourself a location after obtaining a warrant and then contacting your cell phone company who had this technology they can bypass the warrants and the cell phone providers and just get all the information on their own to frankly none of this really sit very well with me after all of the g.p.s. trackers the feds put on their vehicles are going to have their day in court and this technology tracks are movements in a similar way why would the use of stingrays be any different. now debate over internet and on their body is nothing new but you could say that it's one that we're hearing more and more often especially that we see certain websites newspapers private companies social networks as we see them changing their rules insisting on users exposing their real names but in order to have a real discussion about the pros and cons of anonymity and to be critical no matter

what side you're on about the way that certain individuals build their case so it's not a look over to gail falcon paul over the washington times this week penned an op ed called internet trolls i don't envy and the first amendment now gail argues that anonymity should become a thing of the past because the internet is a church and it has become counterproductive even damaging most of those that are hit with false accusations or name calling attacks she also brings it back to people like thomas payne and benjamin franklin who she says have the guts to share their treasonous ideas in person so if you're willing to stand up and render a public opinion cheeping thing you should reveal your identity and she concludes it all by saying about first amendment guarantees the freedom of speech but not. where she right vs wrong or discusses that means killing fanchon as a research fellow at the cato institute joining thanks so much for being here tonight so ok let's start with this claim here that the freedom of speech or the first amendment guarantees the preakness speech but not name to be a true embiid is that really have anything to do with what we're talking about here

no one no this is a weird legally wrong claim i mean one the first time doesn't control what private newspapers make their policies on their websites so you know they don't have to allow any comments they don't have to live free speech or anonymity according to the law but also the supreme court has repeatedly held that part of the freedom of speech is a freedom of anonymous speech which means for example the government cannot require a controversial political organization and that is the case where a supreme court ruled on this to disclose its membership to states and localities can't make it illegal to distribute anonymous pamphlets or political literature so so yes just not true the right to speak anonymously is part. speech now obviously a newspaper doesn't have to obey the first amendment the government has to be the first amendment is paper doesn't but i think it's important to recognize that when you're talking about the importance of real names to creating more civil online conversations right this is the kind of thing that is very easy to say from

a position of privilege so if you're a straight sister gendered middle class. citizen of a democracy who has pretty much mainstream views then yeah it might seem like you know the biggest problem on the internet is people saying mean things and on us government forms you know if you are not in that position if you're a survivor of domestic abuse if you're in a country that does not respect freedom of speech is strongly if you have views that your neighbors might want to ask you for or you know or even say you fired for you know then maybe trolls aren't the biggest problem but you're worried about ok so it's a little bit of an elitist argument as we're saying here right as a doctor and for political dissidents or people that like you said i've been abused and i need some time for you know to try to express these without some kind of fear that there might be retribution there that someone might come after that but you know one of the things i wanted to she argues that as the internet has mature you know only when the internet was brand new i don't know what it was ok now the internet is so mature that we just can't handle this anymore but it is kind of the

opposite as the internet is mature and how do we come up with new ways to perhaps filter through get rid of the trolls or the you know the more civil discourse if that's what you want to call it to to rise above and be at the top of the list so yes absolutely i mean in a way i want to say first that that anonymity in the student id in a way or ways of recapturing a kind of practical segmentation or compartmentalization of social spheres we really already enjoy in the real world without recognizing that you know i go out even in a public place and speak with my friends or my family or acquaintances from church or other groups where again even if i'm in public i expect that i can keep those parts of my life the types of. parts of my personality that i express in those situations separate from each other and that's not true on the internet unless you use different identities literally in each case i mean that you you need suddenly to recover something we already enjoy but that's already true we just have to accept at the same time just realize that the real world and internet world are different but i mean in a way i think it's a way of trying to make the real world the internet in

a sense more like the real world in that sense but it's also true i think as you say that what we've evolved over time because of this need are a lot of ways to serve the functions of public accountability without necessarily having people exposed the problem and the upside of anonymity are the same which is that they tend to deter speech that the majority or people who hold power find distasteful or offensive and the question is can you find a way to limit some kinds of offensive or disruptive speech without accountability in the sense of having to expose yourself not just to having your speech frowned upon in that forum but to repercussions in the rest of your life and you know we see this all the time you know people use pseudonyms on e-bay and they're taking people's money you know partly that's because you know you bake and can track you down if you cheat people but it's also because they have systems of reputation the same kind websites like slashdot uses and you build up reputation over time for your student him you could even have a look at it if you really think real names are that important the internet makes

it easy to not have to choose between pseudonyms and real names you can allow people when they look at a comment form to only see comments from people who have signed in using facebook or some other service with their real name you know there are so many to dislocated ways to filter stuff that i you know i read obvious like you know i read something for like this from gail do you think that she doesn't really understand what she's talking about i think you're going to talk about i also think that civility is a red herring it was actually going on here and there are a lot of companies including google and facebook but also you know some of these newspapers they're looking for ways to monetize their readers and it's along the usually do that if you can tie together using a single identity all the different kinds of activities. and gauging across the internet and also in their real lives where again marketers have sort of huge databases on us so if you're trying to pitch to advertisers having someone is a real name and being able to tie that to all their online activity makes you a much more lucrative partner for advertisers than if you're just you know talking to you know wiseguy three twenty seven. ok so at the end of the day perhaps for

some people this is more about money than this is philosophical beautiful idea of being still you know able to regain or i guess maintain our anonymity it's a distinct possibility i want think this is a debate every day here a lot more about throughout the next years joint thanks so much for joining us tonight and right. now still to come not obama's plotting to take away their guns that conspiracy theory is coming up in tonight's poll final word and an unhappy are you trying to find out of her son is gay but there's an app for that plus a rogue trader tells us what life is really like in the financial world that it's not. let's not forget that we have an apartheid regime right now. i think iraq is the one that well.

we're never going to says we're going to keep you safe get ready if you get your freedom. you know some good to see the story of the siege so. you think you understand it and then you do something else here's some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry the big picture. you just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old i just you know lived through.

i am a contestant i am a total get of friends that i love dr because he is like you and pretty. he was kind of yesterday. i'm very proud of the role that she played. i did time for tonight's tools on awards night as the n.r.a. is that wayne la pierre way and executive vice president of the n.r.a. is very scared of president obama he thinks that obama is secretly plotting to take away everyone's guns here in the u.s. and before the emails and online comments start pouring in yes i'm going to defend

president obama on this one were very critical of this president's policies on the show those that deserve critique the way a lot of fears rhetoric on obama and guns totally misses the target now wayne was speaking at an event in florida where he began speaking about obama's record he'll say gun owners will say they left him alone the president will give another little talked about how he respects the rights of sportsmen and women while in private he makes fun of good americans who quote cling to their guns or religion but in public the president will remind us he's put off calls from his own party to renew the old clinton going. he hasn't pushed for new gun control laws. now part of a way in is saying is actually true so this may to the dismay of many democrats obama has been largely absent from the gun debate since being elected in two

thousand and eight even after the tragic shooting of congresswoman gabby giffords and eighteen other people in tucson and this january the president hasn't waddled into the gun control debate as by all of that and five he's done it just the opposite why well because obama has said over and over again that he supports gun rights and personally i think that he knows it's simply not smart politics but that's not stopping that are even trying to fire up their core audience by fear mongering because obama really is coming for their guns after all we're moving closer to an election so why not try and sparked fears among gun owners that obama and the democrats are common it's all talk it's all part of a massive obama conspiracy to deceive voters and it's true intentions to destroy the second amendment in our country. i wait a second there wayne your logic this isn't making any sense here because obama hasn't done anything to touch your guns and that can't just be his policy it must be a massive conspiracy really that's what you got you want to make sure the people hate

and fear this president so much that you start making a conspiracy theory just because what you originally predicted didn't turn out to be true as you may recall right before obama was sworn in and are a help create a gun buying spree across the us if you were scared that obama is going to take away the guns limit the ammo sales so they began buying ammo in bulk and in turn profits for the gun industry shot up as we all know obama did no such thing he didn't take away anyone's guns all those fears were completely unfounded so obama loses either way he can even bring up the debate over gun laws because then you scream it is going to take the guns away but then when he doesn't touch anyone's guns it's all a conspiracy it's all part of civil war and you're a sinister plan you know for some people the president simply can't do anything right it doesn't matter what his palsied actually are they're just they're just wrong and scary and that's it so if it is baseless attack on obama's record on guns are going to write full time award to the n r a's here.

all right time for happy hour and joining me tonight archie producer jenny churchill and alex sites all the assistant editor for think progress and dot org it's an editor is that a new you got a new title alan is i don't know saying it of course i know it is will explain to us what an assistant editor means. number two in command there really i'm grabbing ok it's a no no we broke the news here on the election for you but. ok let's take a look at this everybody was going crazy over this soundbite of this rogue trader that appeared on the b.b.c. and i'll explain the story afterwards but they went crazy over what he had to say. i don't buy this rescue plan b. basically you know the market is toast you know the stock market is finished the euro as far as they're concerned they don't really care they're moving the money

away to safer sets personally dreaming of this one for three years i have a confession which is i go to bed every night i dream of another recession i dream of another moment like this. ok so he's supposedly speaking very candidly for all stockbrokers out there and how they actually think about the world but this start of the controversy because the first time people are saying that perhaps it was all a spoof it was just a guess man they were playing some kind of prank and people are saying that if you actually did say this is outrageous but if you think about it it probably is how the majority of these think but it turns out that the ending was kind of lame. this is a guy who says that he was just doing it for the attention. yes at the end of the day he was seeking attention so he decided to go for it i actually didn't know that update but that was what i was going to say because i checked out his website and it was strange everything seem to be like contact me put me on television and you

know he's writing things like the top ten stockbroker clues from the world cup. it was all it was all a sham i mean there is something really interesting about it because it's not like oh he's the first person in the world has said that goldman sachs rules the world or the bankers rule the world but normally those people are you know pushed over to the fringes and there's some kind of crazies or there are super leftists and so here the idea that actual stockbroker was say this and you know just speak the truth i think really shocked a lot of people but i think there's actually a lot of starters who have similar views that don't really get in the public view very often this was an independent trader doesn't work for goldman sachs is work for the big banks there's a lot of people actually out there and i was kind of disappointing around there's a bunch of blogs that he's kind of an arc of anti-capitalist traders who make a lot of money in the capitalist system but don't really believe in the whole thing so in a way this guy was a writer but i think he did speak the truth and he i mean i think there's other people who share his views yeah he definitely harps on some points there that make

a lot of sense that for some people out there it's just about the money it doesn't matter what the economy is like how people are living all over the world just makes the money for the markets or for well anyway it's been it's been really interesting to monitor the way this story has unfolded and just how crazy people really went about it here's one that this is just funny ok so there's a store in ocala florida it's an ice cream store and so they thought they would really find really nice to hire somebody how to dress up as an ice cream cone stand outside and bring the customers it turns out that the customers have been staying away because they mistake this for a k.k.k. . head or i think if it was actually scaring everyone away that it can really come on friday. i think it's definitely funny i mean on one hand i'm like it's terrible that this poor little ice cream store is having you know customers are going there and it's kind of positive but people really hate the k.k.k. that much that they won't even you know drive down the street but usually can't

hear oh progress progress but usually k.k.k. robes don't come with sprinkles and a giant cone on the bottom like pink and yellow when you. heard me in the confusion room where he was holding a sign in front of the cone part and also they were driving it was kind of fast i mean this is the exact reason that i've never been a ghost for halloween i mean you just don't know what you're going to get into it gets messy and also i think that we should say this actually is probably a good thing because it was keeping fat americans from eating ice cream. ok well you know at the end of the day there's no such thing as bad publicity so now everybody knows about this little tiny ice cream shop i'll call a florida and they're take a case ice cream cone you know just put a cherry on top next to them and clear the confusion exactly does this make it more obvious. now ok let's talk about sheriff joe arpaio you actually wrote about this mr assistant out of there i think progress today sheriff joe arpaio we know him

because he you know has been very vocal in arizona especially with the immigration legislation that they had they're. trying to claim to do that everybody comes in the bans are all and everyone everyone is like a drug dealer and a rape is the coming across and that's why it's ok to take everyone's documents at all times and so he was actually interviewed and asked kind of a loaded question but answer that is just just ridiculous. why are you a racist against latinos. i'm not going to get it's a very personal well you should. go to the lotion it's my show you should issues should carry. his opinion i know what i am. what do your grandkids than your daughters have to do with that i mean the best way to defend yourself against a vicious attack like that is to say i'm not a racist i don't know how to get out of my person holding somebody i know racism is

something i do at home yes if somebody asks you why you're racist in your response is not i am not a racist you might be a racist. but i mean the shocking thing to me is not that he's like sort of admitting that he's a racist because we all kind of could have guessed that anyway but just how easy it was for him to answer this like maybe we should just ask politicians really obvious loaded questions more often like that character in austin powers you just ask him three times sheriff joe one time and he's like oh that's my personal life well also i just want to know i mean does anyone know what his grandchildren and daughter in laws look like are they latino is that what he was saying is he like his daughter in law is actually but you know ok i was trying to understand that but he's going to explain that he's going to you know rambling any of that he's like i'm not a racist because my daughter in law is partially latino is what he was saying but he didn't trying to say i'm totally legit that's like saying like i have a black friends like totally not a racist it's the exact thing where you can get there. but i do like your idea

about just kind of asking politicians you know interview john mccain why are you a warmonger why do you want to fight everybody everywhere all over this planet i kind of wonder what he would say to that do you think it's having a liar liar moment like his kid wished on a birthday cake that he couldn't tell a lie and it was just like how do i get around this i can't say i'm racist. but i can say that i do at home ok let's move on to a new. for the i phone it's for moms to find out i'm assuming it's for moms or at least the ads when they put out their pictures and it's definitely a woman looking really can be very very very nice my son jay and so there's an app to ask if your son is gay and there's a whole test and there are a lot of questions out there but we decided just a few of them like just he likes to dress up nicely does he pay close attention to his outfits and brand names also does he like team sports then does he like diva

singers does he spend time getting ready even for being seen in public and he was bored did you wish that he would be your girl. i think is my favorite but this is ridiculous ok so if you like team sports and you automatically aren't gay but if you like diva singers that i'm sure that you are i mean i prefer better questions in this. what is that supposed to mean or that's not for me but i'll give you will don't like it but because you're going to assume what the obvious answer would be or like what point would give on this well i think the obvious thing to say here is if you have to ask an app on your phone if your son is gay maybe there's a conversation to have with your son what it is a very large you can be like you know like are you a good mother oh you bought this. you're right yeah if you have to ask a question to go have your yourself but or you know i think of this does put a little bit of blame on the mom here because before he was born did you wish she

had another thing i'm really confused about are they saying that if you wish badly enough that your unborn fetus is a girl and it turns out to be a boy that it will be a feminine boy i'm good for you you know i think that if the you know you're. going to try to dress it up and. they resent your child because they're not a girl you can wish really good you know. also i think we should note that obviously the exact opposite answers for all those questions mean that you're let's be clear. but just so you know. ok i've been a leader right there thanks for joining me tonight you guys i think tonight so thanks for going to get it makes me come back tomorrow and experience me on first to be back on the show and i need signed up i think in the span of your letter show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of the nice there were any other nights and i scratched over you tube dot com slash you'll want to show where you'll find interviews as well as the show in entirety we have next is a means.

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