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new settlements on occupied territory the palestinians say the israeli move it rules out any chance of bilateral peace talks. as the headlines now with the u.k. and other western countries still unfolding believe incorporates all see also prominent british john its fangs of his nation's role in the intervention and simon jenkins's of the guests in today's. i'm joined by simon jenkins author and journalist who now writes for the guardian newspaper some like to speak to r.t. now you've written extensively criticizing the way the intervention in the me is being handled what was wrong with it was it wrong to begin with or do you fear of course during the process there's anything wrong agree with how i just didn't you should have taken place in the first place. i do not believe that sovereign states have a legal right or an obligation or a duty to interfere in other sovereign states is written into the united nations

charter this is not a country that threatened britain didn't threaten any of its neighbors and invaded and they've got a neighbor was going about his own business which is not a revolution it was it only said you think the original just a vacation preventing a massacre in benghazi was that not entirely true that i was sure last today's event in benghazi nasty things happen all over the world. and the excuse that there might have been something nasty about to happen and the justification for invading the invading a country and bombing its capital was i think quite extraordinary and if. not all concept of it clearly there were other interests in play in libya that the oil people close to the mediterranean they were like a skinned people i mean all the kind of things you get library foreign policy apply and there was no justification for it except for the theory that it would have been a massacre had we not gone it in bring girls in those all teary mites and things like links to oil contracts that are now being fought over there are more important

then than say preventing or something not i mean if we are going to go in wherever there's a possible loss of human life we're going to go invading countries all over the world all the time i'm assuming more than assuming i go no there are mixed motives in all these interventions and we tend to intervene in countries with anything like when totally moral i think you can't really get into really countries. we have some interest in this critical but we tend to intervene where we think and i think. almost quickly laurie to be hiding in the place are going to grow up and that was the case here there's always mixed motives and i think we always need to examine our motives and also sort of the simple question are we going to be good rather than harm in this case and seeing who done good but that was by no means guaranteed the fact of the matter was it was not our country. has gone to plan and they simply thought they were going to get quick lawry did last a bit longer than they thought but some of the yet as well i mean they came close

to panicking i mean they thought bombers could do the trick bombs could never do the trick they said they would do the trick in baghdad they didn't have to do the trick in belgrade they didn't bomb was never do the trick after a few months of it clearly not working it is i just couldn't grasp what is effectively ground troops and special forces which are way over the place they did what i think probably they should on the very beginning which say that we want this one over quickly it will be over quickly if we're going to ground troops as well ok can cross over and eventually after six months they did indeed when there's no good pretending mr mugabe libyans it's all done by western force and britain's role in this as you just mentioned they had special forces on the ground and we haven't know the full extent of that because it wasn't even legitimate in the first place was it well i mean we wrote the un resolution is concerned i mean we just as entirely are doing we we decided to do it and we felt the reasons for doing that we decided they're going to be a matter of being girly we decided when you were resolution written a certain way we came to be going in to protect civilians will be in the moment. i

mean the things that we've done we've done with the intention of justifying for controlling all of libya and i'm assuming that will make much more over time because all the special forces will start running and then was as they always do the mission creep we're seeing here was it planned you think or is it just an inevitable unavoidable consequence of into. i think it's a very difficult question mission creating. invariably where it happens in a great case was introducing a bill that involves many people say at the beginning we we won't let this happen we are only going into eight ameritech and relief would have it might be in this case we were only going in to save the citizens of being gone from the greek national circuit. would have a pretty unpleasant things a person like. that at the back of everyone's mark and why the on the so reluctant . is the knowledge mission people always happen you can't control the situation

overthrown and. you've got to be compared to the worst because the worst is what usually happens now in this case it was looking a real mess and all the very end and the very end we got special forces surrounding tripoli. didn't just get lucky when they used made for them using helicopters. using british weapons to bash through walls and everything in the air and we did what we probably should go to the beginning which is make sure we are not going to lose when david cameron and nicolas sarkozy visit tripoli recently they were given a hero's welcome people cheering chanting then names going to shake their hands anyway it was all good for them it wasn't something they wanted and expected i think it just totally all judged i mean it was clearly a triumph we've been here. very soon good from the boot when the in the still alive . you can't pretend it will come from football program for any good reason to batter prime minister is going to a foreign country with you doing good cheer and i thought it was on the syrian tasters and of course we can use the authority of the of the domestic governor who

at this particular juncture should've been at least in a large present themselves being the victim was the only clear this was a british french victory and that's what was it was designed to signify what does that mean now does that give them a responsibility they might not be able to meet i think it does i think the british and the french now have a very strong response will it to make absolutely sure was does not. fail that may well mean sending in troops when you invade a country you caught and then say we've done our job we're going to go because people look to you to continue the revolution that you started or you. i just don't see how we can abandon libya if if as is at least possible possibly even probable alloca breaks out what about gadhafi david cameron since he washed his hands of that is she saying his fate is in the hands of the n t c is that shirking responsibility i'm assuming that british and french was i'm not trying to find good

up inserting i mean what i called your question not finishing the job you know we claim just to say i was a no fly zone for the job. i just it's a seems to me that if you're going to attack a country in this way you must and he's finished it and then you own the country and the really difficult thing is to transfer power from yourself as the powerful authority to the local people and i think we're going to find it very difficult all sort of message does this send out that they're now kind of controlling this and this kind of needle in the way. well we'll miss you turns out it is provided you make enough stink in a country then britain or france might come along and help the revolution happened across a very often positive abundantly clear what happened there are a bunch of gangsters who were running across over effectively said you know we're being massacred by the serbs are certainly true come and save us we wanted to save them and to create a new country we proficient yugoslavia i mean the message is the west is

effectively a mercenary army for any rebel group who cares to make enough of a stink about it and i just think that's dangerous to world peace how different is this really from iraq afghanistan and previous interventions i mean they say they've learned their lessons have been well it would be the only lesson i draw from a new these is don't do it they haven't got this and they're clearly going to start looking for another one i mean i imagine it's going to some trouble in syria i don't know what we're going to do we're going to run as if you do not invade iran and this you're out of your mind and this a huge country iraq with a pretty big country and we found it very difficult of afghanistan at least in small but we're getting a bloody nose but. i mean i guess the lesson of libya is it's a really small country might get away with it. appalling themselves this is the model of a successful intervention why is this not happening in syria and yemen and. i think the reason is that the they've always been a good idea and it worked. it was easy to do and you could run it from aircraft

carriers and bases. they were the doable but integral you could bring in social forces according to you got to me if you want to see them i just think it would be it came along at the time i was couldn't grow as well didn't do burma when the famine is on and have the very good things on when clinton. took the forces available what is in there to do it and everything but i mean i think these things are completely random and it's difficult to to see how you. during a foreign policy based upon these random interventions as for nature and what is it to do with nature it is an overt lending alliance against the russians and it is i repeat it's like a mercenary force roaming the world looking for things to do completely stuck in afghanistan you may yet get stuck in libya can intervention work that the principle works if it works. and it toppled saddam hussein. it punished the taliban and

topple gadhafi works how should this is being handled how should leave me and don't think i was a little we've left syria or we've. let yemen or the why libya is this not turning your back on oppressive regimes killing civilians where you were you to was your back there in the first place in what way were i don't understand the argument of and. turning our back on somalia. i mean are we turning our back on the good turn our back on the congo congo in somalia far worse than libya and they want to scream the royal be attacking congress and some of it i'm afraid just because they're black. i don't i think you will see that in the very need of a racial office operation. for some reason we've got it in for us michael presently and the third one leaving a great deal. was made for thing during question and. even if you gives up the world is a western is highly biased it's all they do they're interested in or it'll help you

if you look as if you're going to challenge your words if you're not. as in most of africa what does this mean now for the arab spring does this intervention reinforce it or undermine it i remember are we what is the arab spring i mean the arab spring was was was a number of rebellions most of questions suppressed. to now three of which will go away you get to respond to your good will spring or could well be that the current are better off for both of them took their governments were through for. the end of the trouble i just don't know all i know is it's not my responsibility there is no british empire anymore we are not charged by the electorate or what the world the girl around invading other people's conscience we don't like their regimes and it's just not our job simon jenkins thank you.

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thousands of greeks united angry protests after the government passes another round of austerity measures and a veto of that looming economic disaster it's going to the greek prime minister held talks with the german chancellor in a sense to restore confidence that athens is on the right track. they said peacekeepers in kosovo have injured seven serbs in clashes at the border area and the line says at least it probable is but a local news agency has released pictures of x.-rays showing gunshot wounds. and international community signs israel decision to build new settlements on occupied territory and if it is seen in say the israeli move rules out any chance of bilateral peace talks. could this happy face and that means

iran joins me now with the latest in sports there are also realized tonight in the champions league and has since come off could have used a little bit of luck yes they certainly could but despite so that three two loss to this was its end champions inside milan the russians he still have plenty of opportunities in the remainder of this group campaign to stick around i'll tell you more from. a little walk into the sport on r.c. come and see a live from moscow with me remark cos for after i first had lines. army men disarmed says fly back from two goals down but still lose the entire apps or a five goal european cup earlier in moscow. inspiration from paralympians and annual awards ceremony has been held in the russian capital

honoring athletes and others trying to overcome serious illnesses. sounds russia's rugby team enjoy a day off from talking scrums and sack six of the world cup testing dire metal as an adventure park and using lead to. one of the biggest nights of the russian football year has ended in disappointment for the home side says scott moscow going down so it's out in giants in certain land and their second champions league group match of the season it was lucile and jump out of my xenia not their business. after all and it's one of three minutes let's say scott didn't lie down first reducing the deficit on the stroke of half time through allen's i go ahead for grabbing a deserved equaliser seventy seven minutes in from bag but it was ensor who would have the final say of. a strike eleven minutes from times earnings in the middle and then their first win on the campaign. which is rather unusual still it was emotional and it was a lot of really storybook up to it makes so much effort to come back from studio

shows that we consider it we could go in didn't have much time left but nevertheless when that's just stage another storm with a goalie from school i know there are strong in the correct there because at the end of the match also and. they drew the match. i'm there i spoke of you can i play your side sit my car for you because until the end we have to suffer. the other matching group between the third your side frogs on spore and a little from france and in the one one roll that source and the group with four points answer milan fellow with three little are in third after its goals and says it's got our last words just one point in the group a wire munich are now two for two after their latest home win against manchester city while not only playing their first win in the campaign and six seconds of the german side chile areola last with north winds and no goals. at sea basel three

three home draw against english giants majesty united moved the swiss teams of itself from group c. will four points along with him fico who want their first match against remaining out because it's a little group d. matches wraps up that use the action. in front of the twenty months before the really good with three three and look at it in a positive way and i think it's a great result it was there and the drums and as a coach it's a highlight for me to come here it's rare that i think it's a club like manchester united we're going to make this real barcelona as a coach i'm very transformed my team's performance here i suppose many ways it's. the same welcome to european triple for them you know because we're going to explain that for most parts of the game i thought. it was a. fantastic game an agreement to begin so you meant. not as good as those the groovy matches to which the hughes the action in the champions league where the on

move to second place after a home win against. real madrid have a one hundred percent record so far in the third and with the dutch side i've seen their latest victims. michel platini has stated preparations at all four year olds once it's been years in ukraine are moving along at a satisfactory rate they you wait for president though pointing out the country which will co-host the football events with poland still has work to. judge. the preparations are going very well there i would say navy of the roof isn't finished now seen jonas there are some hotels which i'm finished and inherited the transport isn't finished these are small programs for the it is a sure we can petition for today can see it was difficult at the start for ukraine and for three years ago things have gotten easier oh. russia's a rhythmic gymnastics team have every reason to celebrate after clinching top spot that's once the eleven world championships there are seven gold and six silver

medals hailed as an advance in moscow on tuesday the squad receiving their just rewards from the sports minister to try the book while following this monstrosity and you give me a cannot in particular drawing major plaudits for her exploits the siberian natives what he thinks out of a possible six goals in france it's twenty one year old wife incredibly a seventeenth world champion in the sports but with the olympic games fast approaching primary but isn't about to take it easy. yes it was my target is to get to london next year we have many more in competitions ahead and only a few weeks before the olympics will see. what i have to do now is train hard and try to get healthy. over it's a paralympic sport now where the third adieux you that i'm working on national award ceremony took place in moscow and they had the event and they asked for the famous russian gymnast who was badly injured during competition in madison eighty

one of the major awards going through for simon paralympic champion russians here you take that people go it wasn't only paralympians he was shown at the ceremony maison look up at the way these who's been suffering with a muscle disorder since he was born showing that serious illness can be overcome the canadian show it off and say that's that you perform at that's once and once or lympics opening ceremony. it. wasn't even. six years ago like it only take three steps today i'm thinking one more instance. the rugby where a brawl was witnessed for only the third ever time in the world cup history and she's a remarkably it was japan and canada who fought to

a stalemate the same sides also drew at the two thousand and seven tournaments the game in mayfair played in perfect conditions and with the most positive approaches and it's eventually fisons maxim deny japan only a second ever world cup when twenty three twenty three how it ended up after that it's a ensure there with all that's going to fifteen games for victory over the united states has already also celyn with a shoot out. arlin's in this year's quarterfinals following the bonus points played in nelson. and steyn at the world where russia's final match of the place on saturday against australia the players using the down scientific in an adrenaline packed afternoon and our correspondent richard one portly one along and was let's say a reluctant participant as well. it's been a tough debut world cup the russian. to give him the chance to lead. a lucrative

pinch apology route to rule. jumping off a forty forty meter pothole might not be everyone's idea of fun but it certainly was for denise implicated. but twenty year old completed one lifelong ambition recently was going to try on his world cup debut album over christmas native also on the surface very first punch um. how was the we know it wasn't the only one wanting a piece of the action this fellow back posse of team if he truly is keen to free himself all from a long totally highlights. i'm a northampton saints player said it was a fantastic frail. plus a list of i've dreamt of this there's a while before and this is a dream come true hopefully i'll have an os for strength to go to the bungee jump as well. the play isn't like kids in a candy store trying to avoid stalling time or time.

even though some of russia's challenges seem more interested in getting greater acquainted with the local animal population. england recently got round her designs for doing similar been trying to tease the russian coach kingsley jones couldn't have been more different in his approach saying it was a wonderful distraction the play is a plus it's important you know we've worked hard for the last. hundred twenty days and they need to refresh recharge know. she's a lot of technical things you can work on but thing is going to. make a sport of the reforms you're strayer's everybody fresh mentally physically and you know the mental thing the mental rest and change from coaching is and getting coached and training every day is important of course this is fantastic breaking the russian player is to make great use of a free time while many of whom productivity's like this have a first time in their lives parts there was no way even nazis correspondent was

going to get away scot free. or the. price was very right now. so are forty meters on their. own say. i managed to live to tell the tale just a buyouts. if i didn't prove to be on hand a minute fine frill seeking experience but up. the russian favorite i saw here decide to give it a try as well on a go. russia number seven company so i was going to go. russia will my major nelson on wednesday ahead of their final world cup game i'm told of the finish will then on saturday table so we have some fun times to memories.

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