this is a disease of the. place how did you treat. each began a journey. where did it take. ten thirty am in moscow u.z.u.r. jihad right thousands of greeks unite in protest after the government passes another round of austerity measures in a bid to avert a looming economic disaster this comes after the greek prime minister held talks with the german chancellor in an attempt to restore confidence that athens is on the right track. nato peacekeepers and kosovo had injured seven serbs in clashes at the border area the alliance says it used rubber bullets but a local news agency has released pictures of x.-rays showing the gunshot wounds. in

the international community slams israel's decision to build new settlements on occupied territory palestinians say israeli moves rule out any chance of bilateral peace talks. with the u.k. and other western countries still involved in the libya conflict arche spoke with a prominent british journalist what he thinks of his nation's role in the intervention simon jenkins coming up in today's interview. i'm joined by simon jenkins author and journalist who now writes for the guardian newspaper someone to speak to r.t. now you've written extensively criticizing the way the intervention in libya has been handled what was wrong with it was it one to begin with or do you view of course during the process there's anything wrong with the way with handled i just didn't you should have taken both in the first place. i do not believe in the soviet state so illegal right or an obligation originally to interfere in other

sovereign states as written into the united nations charter and it was not a country that threatened britain didn't read any of its neighbors and invaded and labor labor is going about its own business we've got a revolution it was a don't isn't so you think the original just a vacation preventing a massacre in benghazi was that not entirely true that i was sure last two days of random bengazi nasty things happening all over the world. the excuse that there might have been something nasty about to happen the justification for invading the country invading a country and bombing its capital is i think quite extraordinary it's an exclusive it's a it's a noble concept and version of it clearly there were other interests in play in libya while it was very close to the mediterranean and they were like a scheme people i mean all the kind of things you get library for and for from liberia there was no justification for it except for the theory that there would have been a massacre had we not gone it in benghazi has ulterior motives things that lucrative oil contracts that are now being fought over there are more important then than say

preventing or something like well i mean if we're going to go in wherever there's a possible loss of human life we're going to go invading countries all over the world all the time i'm assuming a bit more than assume a go go no there are mixed motives and always interventions we tend to want to be in congress really think we're likely when not to any more latitude we tend to really begin to really come. there's where we have some interest in this critical point you tend to intervene where we think and i think. almost quickly laurie to be how it was a case of a pretty rotten that was the case here that's always mixed motives but i think we always need to examine our motives and ask ourselves a simple question are we going to be good rather than harm and this get it seems we've done good but that was by no means guaranteed the fact of the matter was it was not our country has gone to plan and this plea they thought they were going to get quick lawry could last a bit longer than they thought but some of the yes as well i mean i think they came

close to panicking i mean it would be thought bombers could do the trick bombs can never do the trick they said they would do the trick and i glad they didn't with the do the trick in belgrade they didn't bomb was never do the trick after a few months of it clearly not working and they decided to put in ground one of the character of the ground troops and special forces went away with the place they did what i think probably they should on the very beginning which say that we want this one over quickly it will be over quickly if we go in with ground troops as was the case and cross over and eventually after six months they did indeed when they were pretending this was done by the libyans will come by western force and. britain's role in this as you just mentioned they had special forces on the ground or even know the full extent of that because it wasn't even legitimate in the first place was it what i mean we wrote the un resolution is concerned i mean we this is entirely our doing and we we decided to do is going to follow the reasons for doing that we decided that we're going to be in gratitude but go there because i do believe the u.n. resolution written in a certain way it came from going to protect civilians will in the morning. i mean

all the feelings that we've gotten and we've done with the intention of justifying a pretty stringent within the libya. i'm sunni and it will be much more over time because all the special forces will start writing memoirs as they always do the mission creep was seeing here was it planned do you think or is it just an inevitable unavoidable consequence of intervention i think it's a very difficult question mission critical. invariably when it happens in the great case was intimately involved in grozny people say at the beginning we wait for that this happened we're only going into eight in medicare and ready for whatever it might be in this case we were only going in to save the lives of the brain going from pretty quick each of us are. going to be a pretty unpleasant things very quickly. but at the back of everyone's martin the why the on the phone with lots of. is the knowledge that mission creep always happens when you can't control the situation on the ground because. you've got to

be prepared for the worst because the worst is what usually happens in this case it was looking a real mess and there were very rare and very and you got special forces surrounding tripoli. and just get lucky only they used main force of using helicopters and we were using british weapons to bash through walls and everything in the air and we did what we probably should go to the beginning which would make sure we were going to lose when david cameron and nicolas sarkozy visited tripoli recently they were given a hero's welcome people cheering chanting men names i mean to shake their hands killing it was all good for them. was it something they wanted and expected i think it was totally ill judged it was clearly a triumph. very soon go from for a bit when the end of this to the hottest. you can pretend it was and from both of them for the rubies or to batter the prime minister was going to a foreign country doing good cheer and i thought it was very in tasteless and of

course we can see all thirty of the on the domestic of this particular juncture should've been at least you know large present themselves as being the victors in the bundle really clear of the british french victory and that's what the visit was designed to signal and what does that mean now does that give them the responsibility they might not be able to meet i think it does i think the british and french they are very strong as well as what it is to make absolutely sure this does not fail that may well mean sending in troops but when you invade a country you call it and then say we've done our job we're going to go because people look to you to continue the revolution that you started. i just don't see how we can abandon libya if if it is at least possible possibly improbable i think it breaks out what about gadhafi david cameron since when washing his hands and that is she saying his fate is in the hands of the m.t.c. is that shirking responsibility i'm assuming with british and french forces in our try to find good afternoon sir i told the reporter not finishing the job you know

we claim just to say i was a no fly zone when i was a jew. i just it just seems to me that if you're going to attack a country in this way you must at least finish it and then you own the country and the really difficult thing is to transfer power from yourself as the powerful authority to the local people and i think we're going to find it very difficult lot of message does this send them out that they're now kind of controlling this and this kind of miracle in no way. well. the message it sends out is provided you make enough stink in a country then britain and france not come along and help you revolution that happened in kosovo after bosnia abundantly clear what happened but a bunch of gangsters who were running also in fiction he said you know we're being massacred by the serbs are certainly true come and save us we went in and save them and to create a new country we partitioned yugoslavia i mean the message is the west is

effectively a mercenary army for any rebel group that cares to make an of a stink about it and i just think that's dangerous to world peace how different is this really from iraq or afghanistan or previous interventions that mean they say they've learned their lessons have well or they're the only lesson i draw for many of these is don't do it we haven't got this and they're clearly going to start looking for another one i mean i imagine it's going to some trouble in syria i don't know what they're going to do with iran is it you cannot invade iran in the struggle mind and it's a huge country iraq with a pretty big country and we found it very difficult of afghanistan at least it's small but we're getting a bloody nose there. i mean i guess the lesson of libya is if it's a really small country might get away with nato or applauding themselves this is the model of a successful intervention why is this not happening in syria and yemen and it's not that i think the reason is that they've always been a good idea and it worked. it was easy to do you could run it from the aircraft

carriers and bases them right so it was a doable enterprise you could put in special forces quite easily up to me if you wanted to sing but i just think if you came along at the time i was quite rare as well didn't do burma when the family was on and that were very good example for the . total forces available i was in there to do it and everything and i mean i think these things are completely random and it's difficult to to see how you august. a foreign policy based upon these random interventions as for nature and what is it to do with nature when it is know when to alliance against the russians it isn't i repeat it's like a mercenary force roaming the world looking for things to do completely stuck in afghanistan he may yet get stuck in libya can intervention work that principle works if it works and it may be toppled saddam hussein. punished or taliban home

would topple gadhafi works how should they something hand house a living thing i just a little we have syria or we've. we've left let yemen why libya is this not turning your back on oppressive regimes killing civilians who are you where you took your back there in the first place when. i don't understand the argument and. turning our back on somalia. i mean are we turning our back on to turn our back on the congo congo in somalia for worse in libya and they want to go in screaming royle be attacking cumber and some of it i'm afraid is because they're black. i don't i think you will see that in the very minute ago a racial caucus operation for some reason we've got it in for me is my coffee. and the third one being grady. hospital for the girl in question and. the mystery gives up on the world is the big west is highly biased and they get interested in or

it'll help you with your i don't know if you look as if you're in a shelter where you're not. as a nurse to africa and what does this mean now for the arab spring does this intervention reinforce it oh undermine it i didn't really mean for we what is the arab spring i mean the arab spring was was was a number of rebellions most of which was suppressed. and to dial through which will go away and get away from egypt your general spring move. could well be that the growing oppressor will look at the top of the governments before. the end of the trouble i just don't know who i knows it's not my responsibility there is no british empire anymore you know we are not charged by the electorate or by the world around invading other people's countries we don't like their asian games it's just not our job simon jenkins thank you.

very first verses of the bible is that all human beings are created with sentimental came in god's image and it doesn't say just jews or god just. sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a combat soldier national by territories was to do with the doing what we call making our presence felt go out should some go so they hear a knock on some doors from the other corner and hit another house or religion and nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. bloodshed if you want to own guys and kill a thousand four hundred people in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect into feet you have to

be either extremely naive or extremely stupid ok maybe not sit here and still religious jew calling another joe and not not the way they really did it not only. the. wealthy british style seinfeld's sometimes the free. market mind scandal find out what's really happening to the global economy for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines to name two kinds of reports on r t. twenty years ago in the largest country. to certain places. which had been teaching them to teach began a journey. where did it take them. thousands

of greeks united in angry protest after the government passes another round of austerity measures in a bid to report the looming economic disaster this after the greek prime minister holds talks with the german chancellor in an attempt to restore confidence that out this is on the right track. nato peacekeepers in kosovo have injured seven serbs in clashes of the border area the alliance says he rubber bullets a local news agency has released pictures of the x. rays showing a gunshot to. the international community slams israel's decision to build new settlements in occupied territory palestinians say the israeli move rules out any chance of bilateral peace talks. romanza up next with the sports news so europe's

top club football game continues wednesday what do you think of the russian team's chances for tonight well i can say that it's a russian seems currently in action and in the champions league are impressing however the fans are hoping it could all change some nights when it's a neat st petersburg host the europa league winners force all of that coming up in seconds. a long walk into the sport an artsy come into your life from the russian capital with me your mom calls for the first headlines. are the men disarm says buy back home two goals down but still lose to enter after a five goal european cup for invesco. inspiration from paralympians and annual awards ceremony has been held in the russian capital honoring athletes and dollars trying to overcome serious illnesses. downside for russia's

a rugby team enjoy a day off from talking stalls and tactics of the world cup testing their mettle as an adventure park in musial and. one of the biggest nights of the russian football year has ended in disappointment for the home side says scott bosco going down to giants in serbia land in their second champions league group match of the season it was lucille and john paul genie who had the visitors sutil out after only twenty three minutes but says god didn't lie down first reducing the deficit i'm a stroke of half time through go if it's for grabbing a deserved equaliser seven seven minutes in from back are lofty but it was inserted who would have the final say all roles are as a strike eleven minutes from time earning the landmen their first win of the campaign. which is our connection still it was emotional and with which we stood with i feel really sorry that we made so much effort to come back from we concede it was good to go and didn't have much time left but nevertheless we managed to

stage another storm with a goalie. i know there are stronger and the correct there because at the end of the match also really they drew the match. i spoke with him a player science said because of food because until the end you have to suffer. the other matching group between the turkish side problems poor and france and you know a lot of one drop it's the group with fourth wants insurmountable with three little or a third as first two draws and says scar last with just one point. in group a liar munich are now two for their latest home win against manchester city while they claim their first win in the campaign and six seconds of the german side reale our last with multiple points and all goals. let's see basel three three home draw against english giants manchester united moved the swiss teams of the top group c.

with four points along with a couple won their first match against the remaining outfits also the. two for the boot manager for the really good with a three three and look at it in a positive way i think it's a great result we deserved it and earned a draw as a coach is the highlight for me to come here it's rare that i did you come up like manchester united or the likes real barcelona as a coach i'm very transparent my teams were very sincere and i suppose many ways it's. so welcome to european football for them you know because somebody likes to for most parts of the game i thought. it was a fantastic game and agreeing to the game excitement. group d. match is so wrapped up that she is the action in the champions league where they all move up to second place after a home win against the numbers and real madrid have a one hundred percent record so far in this thirty minutes with the dutch side i

have to be their latest victims. now the second game week of the champions league group stages continues with teams from groups a through to h. kicking off on wednesday evening in europe russian champions as it needs are hosting europa league winter sports all in the days early so i now despite missing a few key players including the former course all caps and bruno although i was suspended for this match luciano splits his men are feeling confident after a successful recent domestic run that propelled them to the top of the russian premier league it means is a neat loss to middles from cyprus in their opening game seems like a distant memory now however another defeat would seriously examine the same it is both sides chances of progressing to the next stage. aside from the great achievements portugal's made in his history that you've produced a lot of very strong players look full of football and quite a lot of strong managers too and it says a lot about the strength of the club that it's well organized and has great traditions. the portuguese side thought group g.

at the moment and will be hoping to extend their lead with another win statistics show that russia is a happy hunting ground for porto as the crops for previous trips to the country all ended in triumph however none of those winds were against zinni who are known for their strong home record. as the new. home of those schools in need is one of the strongest teams in europe it's enough to see the green aldershot who used to play now it seem now please now everyone knows danny who plays no national team alexander because your call for is a well known influence and luciano style a t is a manager who is well known in europe and around the world. always the paralympic news now where the third annual national awards ceremony took place in moscow on tuesday the event named after the famous russian gymnast who was badly injured during a competition in one thousand eighty now one of the major awards going to force i'm paralympic champion

a russian skier. although it wasn't only parent against the showing of the ceremony amazing to look up but to any who has been suffering with a muscle disorder since she was born showing that serious illness can be overcome with canadian showing off the same sense that he performs at its once its end winter paralympics opening ceremony. eight years ago i wasn't even. six years ago and i can only take three steps today and taking on one sense. you must. live. in the city so rugby were a draw was so witness for only the third every time in the world cup history remarkably it was japan and canada who foots a stalemate the same sides also drew at the two thousand and seven servants the game made here played perfect conditions and with the most positive all approaches

can as a venture to fight in fact deny japan only a second ever world cup twenty three twenty three how it ended up after that's italy ensure their qualification for the twenty two games with a victory over the united states there's a reason also still in with the shouts of needs garlands in this year's quarterfinals following bonus points when nelson. saying of the world cup where russia's final match of the tournament takes place on saturday against australia the players using that sound science to fit in and the drug facts asked for a nude in. our purse on that richard vaughan portly wife along and was let's say i relax and participants as well. it's been a tough debut world cup of the russians but they were finally given a chance to let their hair down a little adventure park in route to ruin jumping off a forty three metre platform might not be everyone's idea of fun but it certainly

was for denise implicated. the twenty year old completed one lifelong ambition recently by scoring a try on his world cup debut over north of course nets native also on the took this very first bungee jump. however we knew it wasn't the only one wanting a piece of the action as fellow back to our senior team if he clearly is keen to free himself from an ungodly heights. on the north hampton saints player said it was a fantastic frail. bustle this are so out of i've dreamt of this there's a while before and this is a dream come true hopefully i'll have a strength to go do the budgets of. the players when my kids in a candy store were trying to reuters time to time market time. even though some of russia's challenges seem more interested in getting better acquainted with the local animal population. england recently got roundly

criticized for doing similar been trying to tease the russian coach kingsley jones couldn't have been more different in his approach saying it was a wonderful distraction for the players ploy i think it's important you know we've worked hard for the last. hundred twenty days and they need to refresh recharge you know. she's a lot of technical things we can work on but things can occur is sure because part of the force history is everybody refresh mentally physically and you know the mental thing and mental rest and change from coaching is and getting coaching training every day is important of course this is upon task to break the russian players to make great use of their free time while many of whom told activities like this for the first time in their lives parts there was no way that aunties correspondent was going to get away scot free. you are. right we're very right now. so when i am forty metres out there.

i manage to live to tell the tale just to buyouts. the but didn't prove to be hint of minute on free will seeking experience oh. well the russian favorite is out of here decided to give it a try as well. number seven company so it was going to go. russia will now move to nelson on wednesday ahead of their final world cup game i'm told in the finnish open on saturday they will certainly have some time toss to memories. runs around berkeley oh it's a real newsreader. if you like to comment on richard's experience in new zealand go to our youtube channel at r.t.

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