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video on demand. exceeds mine. are in a sense for now with the palm of your. comb . two thirty pm in moscow these iraqi have rides to groom financial feet of greece under scrutiny from european and i have after bushels they're due in athens to assess the scale of the country's progress in reducing the debt this after thousands of greeks united in protest against the government's latest round of austerity measures. nato peacekeepers and kosovo have injured seven serbs and coffers at the border area the alliance says it used rubber bullets but a local news agency claims the live rounds were fired in this release x. rays which it says show shop around
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a little show gunshot wounds of the victims. the international community condemns israel's decision to build new settlements on occupied territory palestinians say the israeli move rules out any chance of bilateral talks. with the u.k. and other western countries still involved in the libyan conflict r.t. asked one of britain's leading newspaper columnists what he thinks of his nation's role in the intervention the guardian simon jenkins says foreign military action is restricted to countries rich in natural resources that's coming up. i'm joined by simon jenkins author and journalist who now writes for the guardian newspaper sun and that's this week that r.t. now you've written extensively criticizing the way the intervention in the me is being handled what was wrong with it was it wrong to begin with of course during the process if they're using the wrong with the way it was handled i just didn't you should take in both in the post but. i do not believe that southern states.
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legal rights at all an obligation or a duty to interfere in other sovereign states is written into the united nations charter it's not a country that threatened britain didn't threaten its neighbors and invaded and labor is going about its own business which is part of a revolution it was a city thing the original justification preventing a massacre in benghazi was that not entirely true that i'm sure a lot of things that happened in benghazi nasty things happen all over the world. and the excuse that there might have been something nasty about to happen and the justification for invading taking invading a country bombing its capital was i think quite extraordinary it's a. novel concept and instead of a clearly there were other interests in play in libya the oil. people go to drain you know they would like to skim people i mean all the kind of things you get the british foreign policy right there there was no justification for it except the
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theory that it would have been a massacre had been not going to end in being girls in those old syrian mountains things like lucrative oil contracts that are now being fought over here are more important then than say preventing loss of human life i mean if we're going to go in wherever there's a possible loss of human life we're going to go invading countries all over the world all the time i'm assuming more than a super go because i know there are mixed motives and all these interventions we tend to intervene in congress are looking like when you know the more that you really think if you're really in countries. we have some interest in this critical but we tend to intervene where we think i think. almost quick glory to be had as was the case or i'm going to run from. the case here with mixed motives but i think we always need to examine our motives and also so the simple question are we going to do good rather than harm in this case you seem to have done good. that was going to guarantee the fact of the matter was it was not our country has gone to plan
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this it's clear they thought they were going to get quick laurie had lost a bit longer than they thought but some of the yes well i mean they came close to panicking i mean they thought bombers could do the trick bombs could never do the trick they said they would do the trick in baghdad they didn't want to do the trick in belgrade they didn't bomb was never do the trick after a few months and it's clearly not working and they decided to put in grout what is effectively ground troops and special forces went all over the place and they did what i think probably should on the very beginning which say that we want this one over quickly it will be over quickly you can go in with ground troops as was the case in course over and eventually after six months they didn't. there's no good pretending this was done by the libyans it's not done by western forces britain's role in this as you just mentioned they have special forces on the ground we haven't know the full extent of that because it wasn't even legitimate in the first place was it what i mean we wrote the un resolution is concerned we face is entirely are doing everything we decided to do and we felt the reasons for doing
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that we decided that we're going to be an raf greenburg early we decided we needed the u.n. resolution written the certain way we claim to be doing it to protect civilians will be under the bonnet. i mean all the things that we've done with the intention of justifying anything of the constraints and reading of the libya. i'm soon it will make much more over time because all the special forces will start writing their memoirs as they always do and the mission creep we're seeing here was it planned do you think or is it just an inevitable unavoidable consequence into. i think it's a very difficult question of mission creep. invariably when it happens in a great case as it was and was imposed. people say at the beginning we let this happen we're only going into eight or not it's a really thought it might be in this case you were only going in to save the surface of the big garden from the great commissioners are going. to be a pretty unpleasant bit of paper for that. but at the back of everyone's mark
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mcguire the army so reluctant to use the knowledge that mission creep always happened but you can't control the situation over ground because it was. you could have been prepared for the worst because the worst is what usually happens in this case it was looking a real mess and all the very end and the very end we got special forces surrounding tripoli. just get lucky when they used made for them using helicopters. using british weapons to crash through walls and everything in the air and we did what we probably should go to the beginning which is make sure we are going to lose when they get cameron and nicolas sarkozy visited tripoli recently they were given a hero's welcome people cheering chanting their names wanted to shake their hands saying i was all good for them was it something they wanted and expected i think just totally all judged i mean it was clearly a triumph. very soon go from from beirut when the in the midst of the height. you can't pretend it wasn't from football star hopefully the newbies are. prime
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minister is going to a foreign country bring you good cheer and i thought it was tasteless and of course we can as the authority of the of the domestic government who at this particular juncture should've been at least allowed to present themselves as being the victor was abundantly clear this was the british french victory and that's what was it was designed to signify and what does that mean now does that give them responsibility that they might not be able to meet i think it does i think the british and french have a very strong responsibility to make absolutely sure this does not. failed that may well mean sending in troops when you invade a country you caught and then say we've done our job we're going to go because people look to you to continue the revolution that you started with. i just don't see how we can abandon libya if if as is at least possible possibly improbable how they could break out what about gadhafi david cameron since i'm washing his hands of that is she saying he's fate is in the hands of the n t c is that shirking
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responsibility i am assuming the british and french was and are trying to find gadhafi and certainly i mean i can't see the point of not finishing the job you know we claim just through servers and no fly zone over the jew. i just it just seems to me that if you're going to attack a country in this way you must at least finish it and then you own the country and the really difficult thing is to transfer power from yourself as the powerful authority to the local people and i think we're going to find it very difficult all sort of message does this send out that they're now kind of controlling this in this kind of need a little way well. the message it sends out is provided you make enough stink in a country then britain and france might come along and help the revolution would have been in kosovo of to bosnia abundantly clear what happened there but a bunch of gangsters who were running across were in fiction we say you know we're being massacred by the serbs which was certainly true come and save us we were to
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save them and to create a new country and we partitioned yugoslavia i mean the message is the west is effectively a mercenary army for any rebel group i think there's the making of a stink about it and i just think that's dangerous to world peace how different is this really from iraq or afghanistan or previous interventions then they say they've learned their lessons have well the only lesson i draw from any of these is don't do it. listen to their clearly going to start looking for another one i mean i imagine there's going to. trouble in syria i don't know what they're going to do with that many rounds of you do not invade iran and destroy your mind it's a huge country iraq with a pretty good country and we found it very difficult to start at least a small but we're getting a bloody nose that. i mean i guess the lesson of libya is it a really small country might get away with it and applauding themselves this is the model of a successful intervention why is this the i thing in syria and yemen and places i
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think the reason is that they've always be a good idea and it worked. it was easy to do you could run it from aircraft carriers and bases so it was a doable but into problems you can put in the total force is quite easy got too many people noticing it and i just think it would be good it came along at the time i was couldn't grow as well didn't do burma when the famine was on the very good example when clinton took in forces available this is one of the to do it in the beginning. i mean i think these things are completely random it's difficult to see how you orchestrate a foreign policy based upon these random interventions as for nature and what is it to do with nato and it is an overblown to alliance against the russians it's a it is a i repeat it's like a mercenary force roaming the world looking for things to do completely stuck in afghanistan may yet get stuck in libya can intervention work that the principle
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works if it works. it sort of as a. punishment and talking books how should they support her house of living and i just a little look at. syria or. yemen or the i mean right libya is not turning your back on oppressive regimes killing civilians. back there in the first place when. i don't understand the argument. turning our back on somalia. i mean are we turning our back on the beach on our back on the congo congo in somalia far worse than the beer no one's going screaming while we're tackling congress and some other i'm afraid just because they're black i don't think they would say that we need a very very racially biased operation and for some reason we've got information and office equipment and this is the third one we've integrated. also before you go in
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the course of it and you can literally gives up the world is that with the west is highly insulated interesting or it will help you with your if you look as if you're in with a chance you're going to if you're not and as for the rest of africa. what does this mean now for the arab spring does this intervention reinforce it undermine its i would only means for a what is the arab spring i mean the arab spring was was with a number of rebellions most of which were suppressed. today all three of which we got away with generously i mean egypt yes general screening rooms. could well be the rock of bahrain a better world for both of them for their governments were going through for good and true for the world the top of the globe i just don't know all i know is isn't what the responsibility there is no british empire anymore we are not charged by the electorate or by the world a girl around invading other people's countries we don't like their regimes it's
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just not our job simon jenkins thank you. very first verses of the bible that all human beings are created but sentimental came in god's image and it doesn't say just jews or god is. sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a combat soldier nicely by territories was a do with the turds doing what we call making our presence felt to go out to some bozo to hear a knock on some doors from to the other corner and hit another house religion or nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. bloodshed if you want to bomb gaza and kill. a thousand four hundred people in
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a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect until a feat you have to be either extremely naive or extremist can be not easy to hear and still religious jew calling another joke and not not in the way they really are that among the. easiest leeches and discover it's p.c. . be the communicate with the wild and let them. test yourself and become free. see what nature can give you an aussie. wealthy british style seinfeld's sometimes.
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talks. or minds up next with sports stay with us here on our key. hello welcome to this more than artsy comments the ally from the russian capital with me ramon calls for a first ad lines. army men disarm says calm all skulls fight back from two goals down but still lose to enter after a five goal european cup earlier in moscow. inspiration from paralympians an annual awards ceremony has been held in the russian capital following athletes and others trying to overcome serious illnesses. downside russia as a rugby team enjoy a day off from talking scrums and tactics of the world cup testing their mettle as an adventure park in new zealand. one of the biggest nights of the russian football
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year has ended in disappointment for the home side says scott musto going down so it's out in giants' answer melanne in their second champions league group match of the season it was lucile and the jump ball applies eenie who had that is theirs soon after only twenty three minutes but says god didn't lie down for us reducing the deficit on the stroke of half time. go it before grabbing at deserved equaliser seven to seven minutes and back nor law but it was encircle would have the final say morals are out as strike eleven minutes from the side turning the land meant their first win of the campaign. which ensured conditions to it was emotional and if we stoop low then it was really so ridiculous that we made so much benefit to come back from so you know we conceded it was good to go and didn't have much time left but nevertheless we managed to stage another storm a big school i know there are strong and the correct there are peoples at the end of the match hold so little they drew the match. i spoke to my players
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and said a car for you because on t.v. and we have to suffer the other matching group between the circus side their absence for and little from france and that in a one one draw with the group of four points concerned the latter although with very little current third after two draws and says our last with just one point. in group a wire munich are now two four two after their latest win against magister city while not really claim their first win in the campaign and six seconds of the german side ryall our last with no points and no goals. sebald goals three three home draw against english giants matches the united this with teams of the software group c. with four points along with ben few couple won their first match against the remaining outfits it's a little. different to give me twenty months of performing really good with three three and look at it in a positive way i think it's
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a great result we deserved it and earned the draw as the coach of the highlights we're going to come here nation it's rare that i've been to a club like manchester united or the likes it's real or barcelona as a coach i'm very transformed my team's performance here i suppose many ways it's. so welcome to european fickle for them you know because you have it likes to for most parts of the game i thought. but. it was a fantastic game and agreeing to the game excitement. group d. matches the wraps up the tuesday action in the champions league where they all moved up to second place after a home win against saddam was zagreb and real madrid have a one hundred percent record so far in this tournament with the dutch side be their latest victims. the second game we call the champions league group stages continues with teams from group eat through to h. kicking off on wednesday evening in europe russian champions is in needs are
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hosting a europa league winter sports all in the days early it's i now despite missing a few key players including the former porto captain bruno alves who was suspended for this match and the chances are that his men are feeling confident after a successful recent domestic run that propelled them to the top of the russian premier league now that means a needs a loss to minnows from cyprus and their opening game seems like a distant memory now however another defeat would seriously damage the st petersburg side's chances of progressing to the next stage book aside from the grid achievements which was made in his history and she produced a lot of very strong players look full of football and quite a lot of straw men are just too and it says a lot about the strength of the club that it's well organized and has great traditions. the portuguese side such a group g. at the moment and will be hoping to extend their needs with another when she just to show that russia is a happy hunting ground for porto as the club's four previous trips to the country
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all ended in triumph however none of those wins were against zanies or known for their strong home record. of schools and he was one of the strongest teams in europe it's enough to see that through an elder sure used to play notes he now plays there everyone knows danny who plays in the national team oleksandr cocksure call for is a well known full woods and luciano's is a manager who is well known in europe and around the world. meanwhile arraigning chappie has barcelona are preparing to meet the belarus side who are enjoying their second ever appearance at the tournaments the castle and powerhouse stars of their title defense a fortnight ago but only gained a points from their home clash with melanne however the bellerose champions game against the czech sides on the first match they also added with a draw meaning all four teams are side with a point of peace in the said ngs. elsewhere to experience
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champions league outfits chelsea and balance the up prepared to go head to head in the style of english side the group he asked for beating player leverkusen sunil with palencia looking forward after drawing their opening game against belgium's gang chelsea midfielder a one off adds to the game's intrigue after completing his move from alessia earlier this year. over to paralympic news now where the third annual. national awards ceremony took place in moscow on tuesday they haven't named after the famous russian gymnast who was badly injured during a competition in one thousand and eighty one of the major awards going to four times higher than big champion russian skier edict people although it wasn't only paralympians who shot one of the serve only mazing look up to any who is suffering with a muscle disorders and since he was born showing that serious illness can be overcome with a need in showing off the same sense that he performed that's one sits and waits
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apparently picks open the ceremony. eight years ago i wasn't even. six years ago i could only take three steps today i'm thinking one more instance thank. you let's move to the rugby world cup in new zealand's where russia's final match of the tournament takes place on saturday against australia but players are using that sound scientific and adrenaline packed afternoon in iraq to rule out our correspondent richard roth portly was a long and was let's say a reluctant participants as well. it's been a tough debut world cup of the russians but they were finally given a chance to let better head down a little adventure park in route to ruin. jumping off a forty three metre platform might not be everyone's idea of fun but it certainly
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was for denise implicated. the twenty year old completed one lifelong ambition recently scoring a try on his world cup debut over north of course nets native also want to talk history first punch on. however when it wasn't the only one wanted a piece of the action still a back crossing your team if he truly is keen to prove himself well from the don't go to the heights. on the northampton saints player said it was a fantastic frail. bustle it's also album of i've dreamt of this there's a while before and this is a dream come true hopefully i'll have enough for strength to go due to budget jobs or. the pay is when my kids in a candy store trying to rides time off time on time. even both some of russia's challenges seem more interested in getting better acquainted with the local animal population. england recently got roundly
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criticized for doing similar been trying to tease the russian coach kingsley jones couldn't have been more different in his approach saying it was a wonderful distraction for the players plus it's important you know we've worked hard for the last. hundred twenty days and they need to refresh recharge you know. she's a lot of technical things you can work on but think it's going to show you soon because part of the fortress trailers everybody refresh mentally physically and you know the mental thing mental rest and change from coaching is getting close and training every day is important of course this is a fantastic break from the russian players to make great use of their free time many of whom productivity's like this for the first time in their lives thoughts there was no way that artie's correspondent was going to get away scot free. coffee. bright or her america. so i am forty metres out there.
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also. i managed to live to tell the tale just buyouts. the thought didn't prove to be kinda of my new found free will seeking experience oh. well the russian favorite it's all good they're going to give it a try as well go. russia number seven company so it's going to go. russia will now move to nelson on wednesday ahead of their final world cup game i'm told in the finish but then on saturday they will certainly have some fantastic memories. reservoir on favorite for a newsreader. joined united for another all days and a couple of hours meanwhile our you tube channel is available at r.t.
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sport hughes thanks for watching and watch out for matt was coming out with that headline his. question was that so much of a lot of people are hearing all this all. the western liberal mention is a is it ever justified for such military interventions within the confines of international law is there a case where. in
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the czech republic and he's available in generally hotel as my central hotel premier and to me some most regal full stop by which i am a taste in bosnia and herzegovina parties available in hutto bosnia and children of each.

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