four thirty pm in moscow these iraqi headlines furious crowds surprise with police in athens as parliament passes a new property tax to pay towards its massive debt this is the e.u. president warns the bloc faces its biggest challenge ever and that further economic integration is vital. border violence delays talks between serbia and breakaway kosovo after several people were injured in clashes between ethnic serbs and nato troops russia's foreign ministry once peacekeeping forces to remain neutral and stick to the un resolution. and

a wave of global disapproval hates israel which has announced the building of eleven hundred new settler homes in disputed east jerusalem this is the un's most powerful body prepares to consider palestinian statehood with the u.k. and other western countries still very much involved in the libyan conflict one of britain's leading newspaper columnist tells us why nations like his pick and choose where to deploy humanitarian help interviews coming up. i'm joined by simon jenkins author and journalist who now writes for the guardian newspaper some like to speak to r.t. now even extensively criticizing the way the intervention in libya is being handled what was wrong with it was it wrong to begin with or do you view of course during the process yes anything wrong with the way it would handle just an issue of taking place in the first place. i do not believe that sovereign states have legal right

or an obligation or a duty to interfere in other sovereign states is written into the united nations charter this is not a country that threatens britain didn't threaten any of its neighbors and invaded a neighbor neighbor was going about its own business and you got a revolution it was a term business so if you think the original justification preventing a massacre in benghazi was that not entirely true that i'm sure a lot of things were done in benghazi nasty things happen over the world. the excuse that there might have been something nasty about to happen and the justification for invading turkey invading a country and bombing its capital is i think quite extraordinary it's an it's a it's a noble concept. clearly there were other interests in play in libya of the oil on the coast of the mediterranean they were lighter skinned people i mean all the kind of things you get a library foreign policy applied here and there was no justification for it except the theory that it would have been a massacre had been not going in benghazi all teary months and things like

lucrative oil contracts that are now being forced labor you know more important and then say preventing loss of life well i would if we're going to go in wherever there's a possible loss of human life we're going to go invading countries all over the world all the time i'm assuming a bit more than assuming i think i know there are mixed motives in all these interventions and we tend to intervene in projects where we think we might win another thirty more what i said to you we can't really get into really in countries where we have some interest in this critical but we tend to intervene where we think think i. almost quit glory to be high it was a case of pretty rotten. was the case here that always mixed motives and i think we always need to examine our motives and also some of the simple question are we going to be good rather than harm and it's going to seem pretty darn good but that was by no means guaranteed the fact of the matter was it was not our country has gone to plan and instantly they thought they were going to get quick laurie had lost a bit longer than they thought but some of the yes is it well i mean i think they

came close to panicking i mean they thought bombers could do the trick almost inevitable trick they said they would do the trick in baghdad they didn't they said do the trick in belgrade they didn't bomb is never do the trick after a few months of it clearly not working and they decide to put in grant what is effectively ground troops and special forces went in all over the place they did what i think probably they should on the very beginning which say that we want this one over quickly it would be over quickly if we go in with ground troops as was the case in course of her and eventually after six months they didn't when they were pretending this was going well the libyans moved on by western force and britain's role in this as you just mentioned they have special forces on the ground we haven't know the full extent of that because it wasn't even legitimate in the first place was it well i mean we wrote the un resolution is concerned we just as entirely are doing you know we decided to do it then we found the reasons for doing that we decided they're going to be a matter of regarding me decidedly the u.n. resolution written

a certain way we claim to be going to protect civilians will be in the moment. i mean the things that we've done we've done with the intention of justifying in a pretty stringent within the law of libya but i'm assuming it will make much more over time because all the special forces will start writing their memoirs as they always do the mission creep was saying he was it planned do you think or is it just an inevitable unavoidable consequence of intervention i think it's a very difficult question mission creep and invariably we're. it happens in the great cases in a billion dollars in bosnia people say at the beginning we won't let this happen we are only going into a fanatic terror and relief would have been my be in this case you were only going in to save the citizens of bengal and from what you claim to be a huge massacre. would have been pretty unpleasant it was very personal. but at the back of everyone's not the you why the army is so reluctant is the knowledge that mission creep always happens and you cannot control the situation over ground and

don't know what's going on you've got to be prepared for the worst because the worst is what usually happens and i list case it was looking a real mess and all of area and the very end because there are forces surrounding tripoli. and just get lucky when they use made for them using helicopters and they would be using british weapons to crash through walls and everything in the air and we did what we probably should go to the beginning which would make sure we would not going to lose when david cameron and nicolas sarkozy visited tripoli recently they were given a hero's welcome people cheering chanting men names wanted to shake their hands saying that was all good for them and was it something they wanted and expected i think just totally ill judged i mean it was clearly a triumph. very soon to triumph a bit when the enemy is divided. you can't pretend it will come from we will strive for really good news or to batter the prime minister is going to a foreign country when you going to cheer and i thought it was unnecessary and

tasteless and of course weakens the authority of the of the domestic governor this particular juncture should've been at least in a larger present themselves as being the victors the been any clear this was the british and french victory and that's what was it was designed to signify and what does that mean now does that give them responsibility that they might not be able to meet i think it does i think the british and the french and i'm a very strong possibility to make absolutely sure this does not fail that may well mean sending in troops when you invade a country you. card then say we've done our job we're going to go because people look to you to continue the revolution that you started where you. and i just don't see how we can abandon libya if if as is at least possible possible even probable how they could break out what about gadhafi david cameron says he washed his hands of that is she saying his fate is in the hands of the m.t.c. is that shirking responsibility but i'm assuming that bridge in french was another

try to find gadhafi inserted i mean i can't see the point of not finishing the job you know we claim just to so it was a no fly zone it was a joke. i just it just seems to me that if you're going to attack a country in this way you must at least finish it and then you own the country and a really difficult thing is to transfer power from yourself as the powerful authority to the local people and i think we're going to find it very difficult all sort of message does this send out that they're now kind of controlling this and this kind of need colonial way. well. the message it sends out is provided you make enough stink in a country then britain and france might come along and help the revolution happened in kosovo after bosnia was abundantly clear what happened there were a bunch of gangsters who were running costs are effectively said you know we're being massacred by the serbs and certainly true come and save us we went and saved them and to create a new country we partitioned yugoslavia i mean the message is the west is

effectively a mercenary army for any rebel group i think has to make enough of a stink about it and i just think it's dangerous to world peace how different is this really from iraq afghanistan and previous interventionist when they say they've learned their lessons have been well you know the only lesson i draw from the new use is don't do it or not listen we're clearly going to start looking for another one i mean i imagine it's going to some trouble in syria i don't know what they're going to do with i mean iran is if you do not invade iran unless you are going to mind and it's a huge country iraq with a pretty good country every from that very difficult afghanistan at least a small but we're getting a bloody nose. i mean i guess the lesson of libya is if the really small country might get away with it nato are applauding themselves this is the model of a successful intervention why is this not happening in syria and yemen and. i think the reason is the always be a good idea and it worked. it was easy to do you could run it from aircraft

carriers and bases from israel so it was a doable enterprise you could put in social forces quite easily got to be people noticing and i just think it came along at the time i was going to grow as well didn't do burma when the famine was on the very good example when clinton was a total force is available we should have been there to do it again. i mean i think these things are completely random now it's difficult to see how you orchestra. a foreign policy based upon these random interventions and as for nature and what is it to do in nature and it is an overt lending alliance against the russians it is it i repeat it's like from a mercenary force roaming the world looking for things to do completely stuck in afghanistan he may yet get stuck in libya can intervention work that the principle of it works if it works or it may topple saddam hussein. punish the taliban

on top of that i think it works how should this have been handled how some of them think i was a little bit we've left syria or. we've left let yemen alone why libya is this not turning your back on oppressive regimes killing civilians where you were you to was your back there in the first place. i don't understand the argument would. be turning our back on somalia whether i mean we turning our back on to be a teller back in the congo the congo in somalia far worse than the border no one's going screaming royle be attacking congo and somalia i'm afraid it's because they're black. well i think you will see that in the very very racial bias operation for some reason we've got it in for muslim countries that are going into the third one being grady. hospital for your question and. the mystery gives out to the world is that what the west is highly insulated interested in or it will

help you with your if you look as if you're in a child you're going to if you're not. as the worst of african you're having what does this mean now for the arab spring does this intervention reinforce its own undermine its i did every need for a what is the arab spring i mean the arab spring was was was a number of rebellions most of which were suppressed. today all three of which will go where we did it was them egypt yes it will spring. or could well be that the local borrowing the better off from both of them from the governments with through forgiveness from the right to tell people i just a man who i knows is more my responsibility there is no british empire anymore we are not charged by the electorate for what the world girl round invading other countries we don't like their regimes it's just not our job some jenkins thank you .

very first verses of the bible is that all human beings are created but some little came in god's image and it doesn't say just jews or god just. sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a combat soldier in the occupied territories was to do with the turks doing what we call making our presence felt you go out should some bozo they hear a knock on some doors run to the other corner invade another house religion and nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. bloodshed if you want to bomb guys and kill a thousand four hundred people in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect until

a few you have to be either extremely naive for its terms and you'll be not hear of your religious jew calling another jew on not not the way they really did it. twenty years ago when the largest country. to subsequences. which had been trying. to teach began the journey. where did it take.

serious crowds clashed with police in athens as parliament passes a new property tax to pay for its massive dad this is the e.u. president warns the bloc faces its biggest challenge ever and that further economic integration is vital. for the violence delays talks between serbia and breakaway kosovo after several people were injured as between ethnic serbs and nato troops russia's foreign ministry wants peace keeping forces to remain neutral and stick to the un resolution. and away from the global disapproval of his israel which is an outbuilding of a lot of one hundred new settler homes in disputed east jerusalem this comes as the un's most powerful body compares to consider

a palestinian statehood. unit is up next with sports news stay with us. thanks margaret to have you with us we've got plenty ahead this wedding to the afternoon including the stories and brief nor the need to welcome champions league group favorites poor show to st petersburg as they attempt to earn their first points of this year's campaign. bottling ball or a wall of the soviet union's most famous basketball stars n.b.a. hall of famer r.v. to simpleness survives a heart attack. trying times we catch up with a russian rugby player constantine rushkoff food despite having a storming world cup finds himself seeking a new low. that is coming up but we start with football were following. defeat

to enter last night needs the chance to get one back for russia in the champions league in a few hours time this in petersburg side at home to a poor so leave her on the home side though missing a few key men for the visit of the europa league coldish former porto captain. and most notable he's suspended after being sent off and needs to up a well a fortnight ago though yet another portuguese international dummy is raring to go the attacker one of the prime reasons. these charges not top the russian premier league defeat well it's essentially are it's all of the question for the need to if they wish to make the playoffs they just all of the champions league for the first time the quarter will enter the us favorites. aside from agreed achievements which is meaningless history if you produced a lot of very strong players. one of them strong managers and it says a lot about the strength of the club but it's well organized and has great

traditions. meanwhile porto currently top group g. following a come from behind win over ukrainian shock tartan asking game we want russia is historically a happy hunting ground for porto with their clubs for previous trips to the country all ending in triumph however none of those wins came against any truer known domestically for their strong home record. of calls you need as one of the strongest teams in europe it's enough to see the green alva sri used to play now it's he now plays there everyone knows danny who plays no national team alexander cocksure. he is a manager who is well known around the world. meanwhile reigning champions course known are preparing to me. off the bella russian side enjoying their second ever appearance at the tournaments martial began their title defense with a draw to home against fellow european giants milan

a fortnight ago parties opener against czech a third place in also ended with a draw meaning all four teens are tied with a point of pace in the group. elsewhere too much harden champions league teams chelsea and valencia prefer to go head to head with the mistrial of the english side lead groupie after beating byer leverkusen to milling in week one while the n.c.i. had to be content with a draw against belgians again chelsea midfielder one month to the game's intrigue after completing his move from balance here earlier in the. day let's move on from football where portland trail blazers legend r.v. to step on us has suffered a heart attack while playing basketball in the but his condition is not believed to be life threatening they lift him any and star center widely regarded as the soviet union's greatest ever possible player was taken to hospital for emergency medical care is expected to remain there for at least one week the time european player of

the year played in his home country for chris writes the entire nine hundred eighty s. and for it and portland until the end of the next day we also reached the olympic podium three times on which just did it in the n.b.a. hall of fame this summer. very best to him now that the olympics in london kick off in under ten months time meaning it's all hands to the pump for games organizers however the chairman of the british olympic association still managed to find some time for a little cooperation with his russian colleagues president of the russian olympic committee alexander if you call an order one hand signing our cooperation memorandum between the nations the agreement stating that the countries will share training experience in science i will even swap coaches on specialists over the next three quarters of a year of more than a former olympic medalist in rowing games and one hundred eighty experience. we are

both host cities so there's much we can learn from each other and we intend to do so secondly and very important we are both there for the athletes so we'll be looking at areas of cooperation in the winter sports as well as in some sports to see how we can take forward coaching exchange of information exchange of preparation of the athletes a whole range of different issues to support the athletes in both countries ok we move to run be where and the world cup were russia's final match at the world cup is counting on a street in nelson on saturday our correspondent richard on caught up with one player who certainly up his reputation in new zealand that is constantine rushkoff this spiked up the flyhalf night fines and so forth. it's been a tough day the world cup a russian baby finally getting

a chance to live day. a blue clinch roads through a. jumping off point for each of the not be everyone's idea of fun but sunday was a decent peevish. a twenty year old completed one lifelong ambition recently a scoring a try in his world cup debut album over christmas native also on the soap a scary first sunday chum. however we know it wasn't the old one once again dash it was followed by the sea of cream if he is keen to prove himself all for them globally highlights. i'm a northampton saints player said it was a fantastic frail. bustle it's also album i've dreamt of this this a while before and this is a dream come true hopefully i'll have a stray to go to the budget job as. the play is going to still try the roy it's time off to time not the time.

even those some of the roughest challenges seem more interested in getting better acquainted with the local animal population. england recently got run be criticized for doing similar been trying to tease the russian coach kingsley jones couldn't have been more different in his approach saying it was a wonderful distraction for players plus it's important you know we've worked hard for the last. hundred twenty days and they need to refresh recharge know. she's a lot of technical things you can work on the thing that's going to. make a pretty big difference you're strayer's everybody refresh mentally physically and you know the mental thing mental rest and change from coaching is again coach to training every day is important of course this is upon times to break the russian players and make great use of their free time while many of whom thought activities like this for the first time in their lives but there was no way that artie's

correspondent was going to get away scot free. brian was very very nice. so i'm forty meters on their. own say. i managed to live to tell the tale just the pilots. but didn't prove to be in the money fun for all seeking experience. the russian favorite it's all good design to try as well on a gold. rush not a sudden company so let's go to your. bullshit when i move to nelson on wednesday ahead of their final world cup game. one of the finish on saturday they will certainly have some fantastic memories.

every time i see the it makes me a little bit more jealous good stuff to richard i'm not as old as sports and i weather is up next year in twenty four hour our t.l.c. is said. exist in nature and discover a species seem. to be the communicate with the wild under the. test

yourself and become free. to. see what nature can give you on the. very first verses of the bible that all human beings are created but said ok and in god's image and it doesn't say just jews or god just. sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a combat soldier in the occupied territories was to do with the turds doing what we call making our presence felt to go out should some bozo they hear a knock on some doors from the other corner and hit another house religion or nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. bloodshed if you want to bomb gaza and kill a thousand four hundred people in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect until a few you have to be either extremely naive or extremely stupid community not just

here but still religious jew calling another job and not not the one they really wanted to money. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to look for asians are relieved a.

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