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i hate and mostly this is all see here is crowds of plants in the finance and the parliament palaces in the properties not just the cajun wouldn't announce the dead . president warns the bloc faces a status that challenge as written that we can all make integration to the bottom. they say sends in more troops to reinforce an intensive border crossing between serbia and breakaway cos of all fresh violence he rails told between the two sides russia's foreign ministry wants peacekeeping forces to remain neutral and stick to
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the un resolution. the wave of global disapproval hits israel which says it will build say eleven hundred new satellites in this new cities jerusalem it calms the u.n. very powerful political promise like say to the membership through its mission committee which will consider it on five day. now if you can all the western countries still very much involved in the libyan conflict one of britain's leading newspaper economists now tells us why nations like his can choose where to deploy humanitarian help. i'm joined by simon jenkins author and journalist who now writes for the guardian newspaper some like to speak to r.t. now you've written extensively criticizing the way the intervention in libya has been handled what was wrong with it was it wrong to begin with of course during the
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process if they're using wrong with the way it was handled i just didn't you should have taken place in the first place. i do not believe that states have a legal right or not british authorities and to interfere in other sovereign states as written into the united nations charter this is not a country that threatened britain didn't read any of its neighbors and invaded and labor it was going about its own business which is not a revolution it was. said you think the original justification of preventing a massacre in benghazi was that not entirely true that i'm sure last of it is a problem in gaza the nasty things happen all over the world. and the excuse that there might have been something nasty about to happen and the justification for invading quickly invading a country and bombing its capital was i think quite extraordinary it's a. novel concept and clearly there were other interests in play in libya the oil on. the mediterranean river like his skin people i mean all the kind of things you
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can't live by british foreign policy applied here and there was no justification for it except the theory that there would have been a massacre had we not going to it in going goes in those old syrian motives things like lucrative oil contracts that are now being fought over you know more important then than say preventing also from not. going to go in wherever there's a possible loss of human life we're going to go invading countries all over the world all the time and i'm assuming that more than assuming you know there are mixed motives and always interventions we tend to into being conscious or we think we might we can know more i think you don't really think it's really in countries. we have some interest in this case will probably tend to intervene where we think and i think that almost quickly laurie to be hired was a case of iraq and that clearly was the case here there are always mixed motives but i think we always need to examine our motives and also saw the simple question are we going to do good rather than harm in this case it seemed good. that was by
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no means guaranteed and the fact of the matter was it was not a country he's going to plan and they said they thought they were going to get quick lawry did last a bit longer than they thought but some of the yet as well i mean i did they came close to panicking i mean they thought bombers could do the trick bombs could never do the trick they said they would do the trick and they didn't do the trick in belgrade they didn't bomb was never do the trick after a few months of it clearly not working because i just couldn't grok what is effectively ground troops and special forces went all over the place they did what i think probably should on the very beginning which say that we want this one over quickly it will be over quickly if we go in with ground troops as was the case in kosovo and eventually after six months they didn't do. was no good pretending this was done by the libyans will come by western force and britain's role in this as you just mentioned they had special forces on the ground or even know the full extent of that because it wasn't even legitimate in the first place was it well i
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mean we wrote the un resolution is concerned we this is entirely are doing we decided to do it then we felt the reasons for doing it so we decided that we're going to get metiria but we decided we needed a un resolution of a certain way we claim to be going in to protect civilians will be every moment i mean the things that would go on were done with the intention of justifying the british french and bringing in a lot of the dia. i'm assuming that will make much more over time because all the special forces will start writing your memoirs as they always do the mission creep we're seeing here was it planned do you think or is it just an inevitable unavoidable consequence into. i think it's a very difficult question mission crème. invariably when it happens in a great case was in a body and was in bosnia. people say at the beginning we won't let this happen we're only going into a to meditate and really forward it might be in this case we were only going in to save the lives of the brain god and from what came to be
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a huge mess or. a bit of pretty unpleasant things because of that. but at the back of everyone's mind you why the army so reluctant is the knowledge that mission creep always happens you can't control the situation on the ground and it was going on you've got to be prepared for the worst because the worst is what usually happens and in this case it was looking a real mess until the very end and the very end we got special forces surrounding tripoli. didn't just get lucky when they used made for them using helicopters going to be using british weapons to bash through walls and everything in the end we did what we probably should go to the beginning which is make sure we were going to lose when david cameron and nicolas sarkozy visited tripoli recently they were given a hero's welcome people cheering chanting their names i just shake their hands i think i was good for them was it something they wanted and expected i think just totally ill judged it was clearly a triumph. very soon to try him for food when the enemies of the high. you can't
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pretend it was and try and put him for a good reason if you brat is prime minister is going to a foreign country when you can get cheered and i thought it was. sort of course so we can see the authority of the domestic governor who at this particular juncture should've at least been allowed to present themselves as being the victor has been the only clear this is a british french victory and that's what the visit was designed to signal what does that mean now does that give them responsibility they might not be able to meet i think it does i think the british and french now have a very strong as well as what it is to make absolutely sure this does not. fail that may well mean sending in troops when you invade a country you call it and then say we've done our job we're going to go because people look to you to continue the revolution that you started with. i just don't see how we can abandon the if if it is at least possible possibly improbable alloca
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breaks out what about gadhafi david cameron since he washed his hands of that is she saying he stages in the hands of the n t c is that shirking responsibility i am assuming that british and french forces are not trying to get up in certain areas but a call to the point of not finishing the job. we claim just to say i was a no fly zone was a joke. i just into seems to me that if you're going to attack a country in this way you must at least finish it and then you own the country and the really difficult thing is to transfer power from yourself as the powerful authority to the local people and i think we're going to find it very difficult what sort of message does this send out that they're now kind of controlling this in this kind of needle in a way. well the message it sends out is provided you make enough stick in a country that britain and france might come along and help the revolution that happened in kosovo after bosnia abundantly clear what happened but a bunch of gangsters who were running it also were unfit to do so you know we're
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being massacred by the serbs which was certainly true come and save us we're going to. have to create a new country we partitioned yugoslavia i mean the message is the west is effectively mercenary army for any rebel group and the close to making a stink about it and i just think it's dangerous to world peace how different is this really from the iraq afghanistan and previous interventions i mean they say they've learned their lessons have well over the only lesson i draw from any of us is don't do it. we're clearly going to start looking for another one i mean i imagine it's going to. i'm troubled in syria i don't know what they're going to do with iran as you cannot invade iran unless you're out of your mind and so huge country iraq with a pretty big country and we found it very difficult to start at least a small but we're getting a bloody nose that. i mean i guess the lesson of libya is it's a really small country might get away with it. applauding themselves this is the
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model of a successful intervention why is this not happening in syria and yemen something that i think the reason is the be a good idea and it worked. it was easy to do and you could run it from aircraft carriers and bases in the middle so it was a doable but. you could put in sort of forces quite heated up to meet people noticing. i just think it would be it came along at a time when i was couldn't realize whether. the famine was on a very good example where you could have a pretty good total forces available. to do it and everything but i mean i think these things are completely random now it's difficult to see how you orchestrate a foreign policy based upon these random interventions as for nature and what is it to do with nature and it is the north atlantic alliance against the russians it is i repeat it's like a mercenary force roaming the world looking for things to do completely stuck in
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afghanistan you may yet get stuck in libya can intervention work that the principle is if it works. and it toppled saddam hussein. punish the taliban. works now should they sit in her house and leave me. i just a little we've left syria and. we've left. why libya is this not turning your back on oppressive regimes killing civilians. as you were back there in the first place. i don't understand the argument to. be turning up. back in somalia. i mean are we turning our back on to turn our back on the congo congo and somalia for worst of the better and they want to go screaming wildly attacking congress and some of it i'm afraid is because they're black and i think people see that they need a very you very racial rawest operation for some reason we've got it in from muslim
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countries and i mean this is the third one being integrated. also for you good question for. mr gives up on the world is that the west is highly biased and they did interesting or it will help you if you're if you look as if given the chance you're going to if you're not. as in the rest of africa what does this mean now for the arab spring does this intervention reinforce it but undermine it i really mean what is the arab spring i mean the arab spring was was was a number of rebellions most of which was suppressed. to north korea which. we didn't it was going to mean egypt yet we didn't scream rooms. could well be the rock of our right a better world for not having trouble by governments would have been for for the better for the world to talk about and i just all i know is not my responsibility there is no british empire anymore we are not charged by the electorate or well the
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derrius crowds are clashed with police in athens as parliament passed a new product in towns to pay towards its massive debt that's the e.u. president warns the long faced its biggest challenge ever that further economic integration is vital. he sends in more troops to reinforce the contested call of crossing between serbia and for a quake off the bow to fresh fallout in the rails talks between the sides cross' foreign ministry wants peace keeping forces trim a neutral and stick to the un resolution. and a wave of global disapproval hates israel which says it will build eleven hundred new satellite into the cities in east jerusalem it colonizes the un's praised.
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palestine state to the membership bids to its admission committee which will consider it on friday. with more world news in little under fifty minutes time right now they look at a sports update with you then. great to have you with us day to day in sport we're going to get right to the. northern tests and even welcome porto to simply those burgers the attempt to earn their first points of this year's champagnes of the. bottling bowl are one of the soviet union's most famous ever possible stores n.b.a. hall of famer harvey does the bonus is in stable condition after suffering a heart attack. trying times we catch up with russian rugby player
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constantine rushkoff who despite having a stormy world cup not finds himself seeking a new club. to start with couple though were following sasco must defeat to enter and choose the have the chance to get one back for russia in the champions league later this evening but simply preparing to take on porto home is neat though missing a few key men for the visit of the europa league holders former porto captain and crew al beige the most notable he's suspended after being sent to all things in its opening up a well a fortnight though yet another approach against international downey is raring to go the attacker one of the prime reasons the channel spell let these charges not stop the russian league defeat sensually are to the question for the need to if they wish to make a play off stages of the champions league for the first time though porto will ensure the tie is fixed rates. aside from the great achievements portuguese made in
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his history that you've produced a lot of very strong players live full football and quite a lot of strong managers too and it says a lot about the strength of the club this will organized and has great traditions. meanwhile porto currently top group g. following a come from behind win over ukrainian shock. one russia is historically happy hunting ground for porto with the cubs who are previous trips to the country all ending in triumph however none of those wins came against the neat who are no domestically for their strong home record. of calls and as one of the strongest teams in europe it's enough to see the green al the shoe used to play in our team now please there everyone knows danny who plays in the national team. is a well known full. tee is a manager who is well known in europe and around the world. meanwhile reigning champions barcelona are preparing to take on but say that the russians enjoying
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only their second ever appearance at the tournament dorsett began their title defense with a draw to home against fellow european giants in milan. against czech i fit place and also ending in a drone meaning all four teams are tied with a point apiece and group h. . elsewhere too much harden champions league teams chelsea. are preparing to go head to head up in the style of being a side league group e. after beating prior leverkusen sunil in the end we won well valencia to be content with a draw against belgium's yang chelsea midfielder one month to the games in tree after completing his move from palencia earlier this year. now and each group a shock char are gearing up to claim their first points at the expense of couple well seven time winners milan will take on league pleasant fire leverkusen fisking in their first home game stage group game i should say since two thousand and five
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the germans lost their first not to the competition to chelsea while gangs took a point from their goal with the events here while in group after arsenal and greek champions limpia toss up the emirates arsenal drew it brissie adored me begin with one with the germans themselves taking on group leaders from r c to. manchester city manager roberto mancini has said carlos tevez has no future with the club after the argentinian striker refused to enter city's champions league clash with byron munich on tuesday a substitute if one player. played for much of this even if you believe it has these be. for me to come play. if you want to prove that i came right this world come to come play with no dice. the man regarded as the soviet union's greatest ever basketball player is now in stable condition after suffering a heart attack or a fetus up honest was playing the game in his hometown of calmness when he went
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into cardiac arrest the star center who played half a dozen seasons with the portland trailblazers it me n.b.a. is expected to remain in hospital for at least a week be time european player of the year played in his home country for example greece throughout the entire night before going on to further successes with real madrid on portland forty six year old savalas three time olympic medalist as well was inducted into the n.b.a. hall of fame this. the summer olympics in london kick off in just over ten months time meaning it's all hands to the pump for games organizers however the chairman of the british olympic association still managed to fit in a quick trip to moscow to conduct a spot of business lord moynihan president of the russian olympic committee alexander zuckoff signing gramley title cooperation memorandum between the nations . the countries will share training camps experience in sports science and swap
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coaches and specialists in the build up to the olympics one of him who earned silver in rowing in one nine hundred eighteen last school and big games explains. we are both cities so there's much we can learn from each other and we intend to do so secondly very important we are both there for the athletes so we'll be looking at areas of cooperation in the winter sports as well as the summer sports to see how we can take forward coaching exchange of information exchange preparation of the athletes a whole range of different issues to support the athletes in both countries now brings us to the rugby world cup or georgia have reason to celebrate fully the second time in tournaments history billows seeing off romania by sixteen points in palmerston north a tight first half. the ending which which i had by just three points to the remaining instrument gave as good as they got to their opponents more illustrious party but the power of the georgians would tell in the end starman will go and see
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going over for the games only tries to which ensured a deal head into their last clash with argentina it victoriously. a much improved performance of my own team during the game and obviously we would like to . say we want to have a very good marching on sunday now the country continues to russia's final much of the world cup when they take on a strictly in nelson on saturday our correspondent richard roth reports we caught up with one player who certainly helped his reputation in new zealand constantine writes cough but spiked up the flyhalf nine finds himself without a clue. constantin rushkoff has been on the move for most of his life born in kazakhstan he would move to russia are in his early teens to continue his rugby development the thought of passing for france after the turn of a millennium. he took up the sport of b. age of twelve however things could have been very different for the thirty two year
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old had taken different career path as he used to be vigilant because like tennis number one. i thought it would take a lot of time to get to the top in tennis though as time goes by the champions are getting younger and younger the money in tennis is all of this world in comparison to rugby but i've never regretted my decision for course constantine has been playing for the last decade in france and once played with fellow russian veterans love grow charge of however over the last couple of years as a member of a massive trade team which included one of world rugby his most famous ever players . who fall i was very lucky to end up at the same club as john a lot more i wasn't very lucky that he decided to quit the game not long after i joined he had a lot of injuries and health problems he's now taking walks in and wants to compete at a professional level but unfortunately i don't think he will ever return to the rugby each and i know him and he's one of the nicest guys you could ever wish to meet
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prisoners constantin had been enjoying his first ever world car up until he received some very bad news a couple of days ago he was released from a save the brain as the french club ran into financial difficulties i decision which came as a massive shock to him and now he's looking for a new team to play for preferably in europe. i definitely want to keep on playing but i'm studying for a degree of the moment for life after of b. but i would like to find a new club and have no intention of heading up my boss for at least the next three years it's a tough time of the moment becomes. teen is one of the more respected members of the russian squads and it's been constantly moving from one place to the next and says early teens the thirty two year old would like nothing more and see how the remained of his playing career in europe and a good display against australia could certainly help him to put himself in the
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shop window for potential suitors richard pombo for it all to your own new zealand . is your sport for this hour i will be back in just under two hours time with the latest from is a nice game with porto and then the build up to the rest of all those champions league games tonight see us. culture is that so much a lot of people at your email that we're trying to western liberal mention is a is it ever justified for such
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