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a wave of global disapproval hits israel which says it will build an levanon did new satellite incident species to resell it it comes as the un's most powerful body refers palestine stage of the membership its to its admission the committee which will consider it on friday. now with the u.k. and other western countries still very much involved in the libyan conflict want to britain's leading newspaper columnists now tells us why nations like his pick and choose west point humanitarian help. i'm joined by simon jenkins author and journalist who now writes for the guardian newspaper some of them speaking to r.t. now you've written extensively criticizing the way the intervention in the me is being handled what was wrong with it was it one to begin with or do you view of course during the process if anything wrong with the way it was handled i just didn't you should have taken place in the first place. i do not believe that

sovereign states. legal right to own obligations or a duty to interfere in other sovereign states is written into the united nations charter this is not a country that threatened britain didn't its neighbors and invaded and. it was going about its own business which is going to revolutionize it was it so you think the original justification of preventing a massacre in benghazi was that not entirely true that i'm sure lost it is with the nasty things happening all over the world. and the excuse that there might have been something nasty about to happen and the justification for invading quickly invading a country and bombing its capital was i think quite extraordinary it's a. noble concept of clearly there were other interests in play in libya there was or will it was close to the mediterranean they were lighter skinned people i mean all the kind of things you get an ally british foreign policy applied here and there was no justification for it except for the theory that there would have been

a massacre had we not going to indian goes in those old theory motives things like the lucrative oil contracts that are now being fought over there are more important then than say preventing or something not. going to go in wherever there's a possible loss of human life are going to go invading countries all over the world all the time i'm assuming. mixed motives and always interventions and we tend to intervene comes when we think we might we can get more of that if you really think you're doing countries. we have some interest in the state of oil but we tend to intervene where we think i think. laurie to be how it was a case of good rather than. was the case here there are always mixed motives but i think we always need to examine almost it was sort of the simple question are we going to do good rather than harm and this question seemed to have gone through. that was by no means guaranteed in fact of the matter was it was not our country he

could come to plan then they simply thought they were going to get quick laurie did last a bit longer than they thought but some of the yes well i mean i did they came close to panicking i mean they thought bombers could do the trick bombs could never do the trick they said they would do the trick in baghdad they didn't do the trick in belgrade they didn't bomb was never do the trick after a few months and it clearly not working had they decided to put him in the picture of the ground troops and special forces went all over the place they did what i think probably should on the very beginning which say that we want this one over quickly it would be quickly from going to ground troops as was the case in kosovo. and eventually after six months they didn't. there's no good pretending this was done by the libyans it's not on by western forces britain's role in this as you just mentioned they had special forces on the ground and we even know the full extent of that because it wasn't even legitimate in the first place was it well i mean we wrote the un resolution is concerned we this is entirely are doing we

decided to do it with all the reasons for doing it but we decided there's going to be a masquerade being girly we decided we needed the resolution written the certain way we came to be going in to protect civilians will be ended up bombing. i mean all the things that we've done and we've done it with the intention of justifying the british french and bringing them over libya. i'm assuming that will make much more over time because all the special forces will start writing their memoirs as they always do the mission creep we're seeing here was it planned do you think or is it just an inevitable unavoidable consequence into. i think it's a very difficult question mission critical. invariably when it happens in a great case because it was in the book is imposed now people say at the beginning we won't let this happen we're only going into eight america terror and relief would have been might be in this case you were only going in to save the lives of the brain god and from what we came to a commissioned officer. would have a pretty unpleasant things a part of. it at the back of everyone's mind really why the army so reluctant is

the knowledge that mission creep always happens when you can't control the situation on the ground you didn't know what's going on you've got to be prepared for the worst the worst is what usually happens now in this case it was looking a real mess and all the very end and the very end we got special forces surrounding tripoli. didn't just get lucky when they made fourth of using helicopters we would be using british weapons to bash through walls and everything in the air and we did what we probably should go to the beginning which would make sure we were going to lose when david cameron and nicolas sarkozy visit tripoli recently they were given a hero's welcome people cheering chanting their names wanted to shake their hands and he was all good for them it wasn't something they wanted and expected i think just totally ill judged i mean it was clearly a triumph. very soon good from from but it really in the midst of the. you can't pretend it wasn't for him we will strive for you know these are two batters prime

ministers going to a foreign country we're going to give him good cheer and i thought it was. sort of course so we can as the authority of the of the domestic government who at this particular juncture should've been at least you know allowed to present themselves as being the victim it was. clear this was a british french victory and that's what was it was designed to signal what does that mean now does that give them responsibility they might not be able to meet i think it does i think the british and the french now have a very strong responsibility to make absolutely sure this does not. fail that may well mean sending in troops when you invade a country you called and then say we've done our job we're going to go because people look to you to continue the revolution that you started. i just don't see how we can a grand and if as is at least possible possibly improbable i think it breaks out what about gadhafi david cameron says we washed his hands of the the she saying his

fate is in the hands of the m.d.c. is that shirking responsibility i am assuming that british and french forces are not trying to get up and certainly i mean i can't you know put in not finishing the job you know we claim just to serve as a no fly zone over the job. i just it just seems to me that if you're going to attack a country in this way you must be to finish it and then you own the country and the really difficult thing is to transfer power from yourself as the powerful authority to the local people and i think we're going to find it very difficult all sort of message does this send out that they're now kind of controlling this in this kind of new colonial way. with the misuse as out is provided you make enough stink in a country then britain and france might come along and help the revolution happen in kosovo after bosnia abundantly clear what happened there what a bunch of gangsters who were running cross over to say you know we're being rescued by the serbs are certainly true come and save us we were injured so you

have to create a new country we partitioned yugoslavia i mean the message is the west is effectively a mercenary army for any rebel group that cares to make and i was think about it and i just think that's dangerous to world peace how different is this really from iraq afghanistan and previous interventions i mean they say they've learned their lessons as well though the only lesson i draw for many of these is don't do it. they're clearly going to start looking for another one i mean i imagine it. some trouble in syria i don't know what we're going to do with iran as you did not invade iran and that's your argument and it's a huge country iraq with a pretty big country and we found it very difficult afghanistan at least a small but we're getting a bloody nose but. i mean i guess the lesson of libya is it's a really small country might get away with it. applauding themselves this is the model of a successful intervention why is this i thing in syria and yemen and play something

i think the reason is that the they thought was to be a good idea and it worked. it was easy to do and you could run it from you care isn't based on the brain so it was a doable enterprise you could put in special forces accordingly to go out to meet people they'd sing. i just think it would be it came along at the time i was couldn't realize whether. the family was on one of the very good example when credited to the total forces available i didn't have the nerve to do it with everything but i mean i think these things are completely random and it's difficult to see how you can string a foreign policy based upon these random interventions for nature and what is it to do with nature you know it is an overgrown alliance against the russians and it's i repeat it's like a mercenary force a room in the world looking for things to do completely stuck in afghanistan it may yet get stuck in libya can intervention work that the principle works if it works.

topple saddam hussein. punish the taliban. works now should they simply hand house and leave me and i just a little look at. syria or. yemen or they're in why libya is not turning your back on oppressive regimes killing civilians where you were you to was your back there in the first place. i don't understand the argument. turning our back on somalia. i mean are we turning our back on to turn our back on the congo congo and somalia for western libya and they want to go screaming wildly attacking congress and some of it i'm afraid just because they're black i don't think people see the movie the very you very racial corporations but for some reason we've got it in for muslim countries at the moment and this is the third one we've invaded. all smooth for the real cause over. the misuse of the world

is that the west is highly biased and they do they're interested in or it will help you if you look as if you were going to charge and will interfere in north. africa what does this mean now for the arab spring does this intervention reinforce it or undermine it i you know it means for what is the arab spring i mean the arab spring was was was a number of rebellions most of which was suppressed. to north korea which. we did it was going to hear them scream loons. could well be the work of the right a better world through a lot of the talk of the governments would have been for for good or for the world to topple and i just all i knows is more responsibility there is no british empire anymore we are not charged by the electorate or where the world around invading other people's countries we don't like their regimes and it's just normal job

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six to. six. period's crowds in clashed with police announced then says parliament passed a new property tax to pay towards the amounts of debt doesn't even president the dog faces its biggest challenge after in that further economic integration has gone from. beijing sending more troops to reinforce a contested pool of crossing between serbia and breakaway cost of over forty fresh violence details to clean the two sides russia's foreign ministry wants peacekeeping forces to remain neutral and stick to the un resolution. and the wave of global disapproval hates israel which says it will build a never longer news that led to the disputed east jerusalem it comes to the un

space coul for body repairs palestine statehood a membership made to its admission that he makes a neutral consider a full on friday. up about with an update in around fifteen minutes time right now the nets cross they've all said you can play for us and we seem to have a right game on our hands there was a big space and i can agree with you more i was the first game of a champions league match just tonight happening out there in some petersburg isn't a first portal it is quite a game one one the score at the moment approaching half the time we get the very very latest in just a second. i have your company this is what they have plenty head over the next ten minutes or so in. northern test sinitta are underway against poor to incent petersburg as they attempt to earn their first points on this year's champions league campaign.

buckling bowler one of the soviet union's most famous basketball stars n.b.a. hall of famer r.v. disability is in stable condition after suffering a heart attack. trying times we catch up with russian wrigley player constantine rushkoff who despite having a storming world cup now it finds himself seeking a new club. but we begin with football words that are currently attempting to secure their first points of this year's champions league campaign but simply taking on portuguese champion sport to home in game week suit with the half time whistle just about to go up patrols ski up north it is one one gene for or against helping him host cross on ten minutes for port so well over a month shirokov replied for the hosts on twenty minutes a right end to end battle then up north with chances goal or for both outfits but the score is one one or two top group g.

after fighting back to breach the nets in their opener. meanwhile reigning champions barcelona are preparing to take on party who we saw off the belorussians enjoying only their second ever appearance at the tournaments course that began their title defense with a droll home against fellow european giants in milan but he's opener against czech outfit plays in also ending in a draw meaning all four teams are tied with a point to peace in group h. . elsewhere too much harden champions league. teams chelsea and valencia are preparing to go head to head up the mistah and being assigned lead group b. after beating buyer leverkusen to no end in week one while valencia had to be content with a draw against belgians gang chelsea midfielder one of the game's intrigue after completing his move from valencia earlier in the year. also later tonight in its group shocked to play in their first points of be expensed of up

a well seven time winners milan take on league debutante buyer leverkusen face again in their first home group stage game since two thousand and five the germans lost their first game of the competition to chelsea well again took a point from their draw with the n.c.a. and in group bad for arsenal entertain greek champs olympiacos up the emirates arsenal drew with pretty dortmund in week one with the germans themselves taking on group leaders marci tonight. two more russian representatives are on continental truthy on thursday evening bouts in the europa league being host pyaar while locking motif meet under that exactly a decade after the real women thrush devotions five one with the school in the champions league both sides enter the game as group l. leaders after claiming opening round victories two weeks ago the russians not being all three points after recovering from a cool down against two into one thanks to victor will be no. sefer it's like what teeth well we are in frightening form of lead all round in fact. charges no

unbeaten in their past fourteen games well the belgians they also made light work of a ak rushing the greeks four one in under. manchester city manager roberto mancini has said carlos tevez has no future with the club after the argentinian striker refused to enter city's champions league clash with byron munich on tuesday i was the substitute. if one player i don't want to play for not just to see the cheerleader these be. for me you can play whatever if you want to improve like a team and i think it will come play with the guys. the man regarded as the soviet union's greatest ever basketball player by many is now in stable condition after suffering a heart attack or fetus a bonus was playing the game and his lithuanian hometown of conus when he went into cardiac arrest the star center who played half a dozen seasons with the portland trailblazers in the n.b.a.

is expected to remain in hospital for at least a week the eight time european clear of the year played in his home country for grist throughout the entire nine hundred eighty s. before going on to further successes with real madrid and portland forty six schultz of all us a three time olympic medalist was inducted into the n.b.a. hall of fame this summer you know now the summer olympics in london kick off in just over ten months meaning it's all hands to the pump for the games organizers however the chairman of the british olympic association still managed to fit in a quick trip to moscow to conduct a sort of business lured to hand i'm president of the russian olympic committee alexandre's you cough sonnier grumley title cooperation memorandum between the nations be agreements thieving other countries will share training camps experience in sports science on swap coaches on specialists in the build up to be electrics and indeed beyond morning hen who earn silver in ruling of the one nine hundred eighty games which are held and not school explains. we are both cities so there's

much we can learn from each other and we in terms of do so secondly and very important we are both there for the athletes so we'll be looking at areas of cooperation in the winter sports as well as in some sports to see how we can take forward coaching exchange of information exchange preparation of the athletes a whole range of different issues to support the athletes in both countries ok let's move on to the really world cup where georgia have reason to celebrate friendly the second time in tournaments history the last seeing off for many a by sixteen points in palmer's time north tight first half ending with georgia head by just three points for the romanian scrum gave as good as they got to their opponents more lustrous pack but the power of the georgians would tell in the end storm. godsey going over for the games only tries to which i'm sure we'll head into the last clash with argentina in victorious and. a much improved

performance. so we want to have a very good. now to country and continues to russia's final match up that rugby world cup they take on a street in nelson on saturday our correspondent richard caught up with one player who certainly his reputation in new zealand constantino rushkoff despite the flyhalf no one finds himself without a club. constantin rushkoff has been on the move for most of his life born in kazakhstan he would move to rush aaron is early teens to continue his rugby development before departing for france after the turn of the millennium he took up the sport of the age of twelve however things could have been very different for the thirty two year old having taken different career path as he used to be junior tennis number one. i thought it would take

a lot of time to get to the top in tennis those time goes by the champions are getting younger and younger the money in tennis is old of this world in comparison to rugby but i've never regretted my decision possible constantine has been playing for the last decade in france and once played with fellow russian veterans love bradshaw of however over the last couple of years as a member of a massive upgrade team which included one of world rugby his most famous ever players. i was very lucky to end up at the same club as john a lot more i wasn't very lucky that he decided to quit the game or not long after i joined he had a lot of injuries and health problems has now taken up walks in and wants to compete at a professional level but unfortunately i don't think you will ever return to the rugby pitch i know him and he's one of the nicest guys you could ever wish to meet . constantine had been enjoying his first ever world cup up until he received some

very bad news a couple of days ago he was released from our save as the french club ran into financial difficulties a decision which came as a massive shock to him and now he's looking for a new team to play for preferably in europe. definitely want to keep on playing them studying for a degree of the moment for life after rugby but i would like to find a new core and have no intention of hitting up my boots for at least the next three years it's a tough time of the moment for. teen is one of the more respected members of the russian squad after being constantly are moving from one place to the next since his early teens the thirty two year old would like nothing more and see out the remainder of his playing career in europe and a good display against australia could certainly help him to put himself in the shop window for potential suitors richard. new zealand yeah i'm sure he won't have to wait too long to get a club that is all the sports world whether it's next analysis here with all the

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