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it's a very warm welcome back it's hard way here in moscow just one story tall date you on right now in the second eight people including an eleven year old been killed in a car bomb blast in the republic of douglas start in southern russia all except one of the victims were civilians the balls will say wounded six of police officers an explosive was planted in a car paul other road crossing in the central never shown ski district a criminal investigation is under way stay with r.t. we'll bring you more details as they come in. next though with the u.k.
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and other western countries still very much involved in the libyan conflict one of britain's leading newspaper columnists now tells us why nations like his seem to pick and choose where they deploy humanitarian help. i'm joined by simon jenkins author and journalist who now writes for the guardian newspaper sunday night speaking to r.t. now you've written extensively criticizing the way the intervention in libya is being handled what was wrong with it was it wrong to begin with or do you view of course during the process if they're using wrong we would handle it i just didn't you should have taken place in the first place. i do not believe the state. legal right or when obligation originally to interfere in other sovereign states is written into the united nations charter this is not a country that threatened britain. and invaded and
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a neighbor is going about his own business and you got a revolution it was it so you think the original justification preventing a massacre in benghazi was that not entirely true that i'm sure lots of things were problem bengazi nasty things happen all over the world. and the excuse that there might have been something nasty about to happen and the justification for invading turkey invading a country bombing its capital which i find quite extraordinary it's. not all concept. clearly there were other interests in play in libya the oil it was close to the mediterranean they were lighter skinned people i mean all the kind of things you get lying by british foreign policy applied here there was no justification for it except the theory that they would have been a massacre had been not going to be in goes in. syria makes sense things are leaked of oil contracts that are now being fought and there are more important men than say preventing or something much worse i mean if we're going to go in wherever
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there's a possible loss of human life we're going to go invading countries all over the world all the time i'm assuming. you know there are mixed motives in all these interventions and we tend to intervene in countries where we think we might think we can be more or less if you. really get into reading countries. we have some interest in this critical but we tend to intervene where we think i think almost quick glory to be had was a closer in iraq than. was the case here there are always mixed motives and i think we always need to examine our motives and ask us of the simple question are we going to be good rather than harm in this case it seems we've done good. that was by no means guaranteed the fact of the matter was it was not our country cheek is going to plan then they simply they thought they were going to get quick lawry could last a bit longer than they thought but some of the yes as well i mean i became close to panicking i mean they thought bombers could do the trick bombs conservative trick they said they would do the trick in baghdad they didn't do the trick in belgrade
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they didn't. bomb was never do the trick after a few months of it clearly not working and they decided to put in the picture of the ground troops and special forces went in all over the place they did what i think probably should have done the very beginning which say that we want this all over quickly it would be over quickly if we go in with ground troops as was the case in kosovo. and eventually after six months they didn't do. no good pretending this was done by the libyan system done by western force and britain's role in this as you just mentioned they had special forces on the ground we even know the full extent of that because it wasn't even legitimate in the first place was it well i mean we wrote the un resolution is concerned we do it we decided to do it and we felt reasons for doing it but we decided never going to get a massacre in benghazi we decided we need the un resolution written a certain way. to protect civilians will be ended up bombing. i mean all the things that were done were done with the intention of justifying for prescription drugs
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you know over libya. i'm sunni and it will be much more open to i because all the special forces will start writing memoirs as they always do the mission creep was seeing here was it planned do you think or is it just an inevitable unavoidable consequence of into. i think it's a very difficult question mission creep. invariably where it happens in a great case was in a position it was in grozny people say at the beginning we let this happen we're only going into a to meditate and relief or whatever it might be in this case who were only going in to save the lives of the brain god from what could be a huge massacre would be a pretty unpleasant thing with a push of the moment but at the back of everyone's not really why the army was so reluctant to give them knowledge that mission creep always happens you cannot control the situation on the ground it was going on you got to be prepared for the worst the worst is what usually happens and in this case it was looking
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a real mess until the very end and the very end you got special forces surrounding tripoli. didn't just get lucky when they made for them using helicopters they were using british weapons to bash the walls and everything in the air and we did what we proceeded to the beginning which would make sure we were going to lose when david cameron and nicolas sarkozy visited tripoli recently they were given a hero's welcome people cheering chanting their names wanted to shake their hands killing i was all good for them it wasn't something they wanted and expected i think just to feel judged it was clearly a triumph. very soon to transform it when the in the midst of the hope that. you can't pretend it wasn't for the good news or to batter the prime minister is going to a foreign country would you get cheered and i thought it was tasteless and of course so we can see both already of the of the domestic governor at this particular juncture should've been at least in a large present themselves and being the victim it was abundantly clear because of
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the british french and that's what the visit was designed to signal and what does that mean now does that give them responsibility they might not be able to meet i think it does i think the british and the french now have a very strong response but it is to make absolutely sure this does not. failed that may well mean sending in troops but when you invade a country you can't then say we've done our job we're going to go because people look to you to continue the revolution that you started or we. i just don't see how we can abandon if as is the least possible possibly improbable how they could break out what about gadhafi david cameron says we washing his hands of that is she saying he stated in the hands of the m.d.c. is that shirking responsibility i am assuming that british and french was and not try to get up in certain but i can't see the point you're not finishing the job. we claim just two subs and no flies it was
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a jew. i just it just seems to me that if you're going to attack a country in this way you must at least finish it and then you own the country and the really difficult thing is to transfer power from yourself as the powerful authority to the local people and i think we're going to find it very difficult all sort of message does this send out that they're now kind of controlling this and this kind of new colonial way. the message it sends out is provided you make enough stink country in britain or france not come along and help your evolution that happened in kosovo after bosnia of the bonded nuclear what happened there but a bunch of gangsters who were running kosovo in fiction who said you know we're being massacred by the serbs which is certainly true come and save us we went in so you had to create a new country and we partitioned yugoslavia probably the message is the west is effectively a mercenary army for any rebel group that cares to make it have a stink about it and i just think it's dangerous to world peace how different is
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this really from iraq or afghanistan previous interventions i mean they say they've learned their lessons have been. the only lesson i draw from any of these is don't do it we haven't learned that lesson the clearly going to start looking for another one and i imagine it is. some trouble in syria i don't know what we're going to do with iran is not invading iran in the struggle mind it's a huge country with a pretty big country and we found it very difficult afghanistan at least a small but we're getting a bloody nose that. i mean i guess the lesson of libya is if it's a really small country and not get away with it. applauding themselves this is the model of a successful intervention why is this not happening in syria and yemen a place like that i think the reason is that they thought it would be a good idea and it worked. it was easy to do that you could run it for a few hours in place of the measuring so it was a doable them enterprise you could put in sort of water quality to go up to meet
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people noticing. i just think it would be keep it came along at the time i was couldn't as well didn't do. the family was on very good example where you couldn't even get token forces available was in there to do it and everything but i mean i think these things are completely random and it's difficult to see how you can string a foreign policy based upon these random interventions that's the nature and what is it to do with nature and nature is the north atlantic alliance against the russians and it is i repeat it's like a mercenary force roaming the world looking for things to do completely stuck in afghanistan in may yet get stuck in libya can intervention work that principle works if it works. to topple saddam hussein. punishment taliban. works how should they simply handle the house and leave you think i just want to look at. syria or. why libya is
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not turning your back on oppressive regimes killing civilians. back there in the first place. i don't understand the argument. turning up. back in somalia. i mean we turning our back on the beach on our back on the congo congo in somalia far worse than libya and they were screaming wildly attacking congress and some of it i'm afraid is because they're black and i think you will see that in the media these are very very racial rawest operations for some reason to go to the infamous uncomfortable moment when most of the third won't be even rated. the fourth you go you know because of that. committee gives up to the world is that when the west is highly doubtful they get interested in or will help you with your if you look as if you're in the chance you're going to if you're not. as interested in africa or go
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what does this mean now for the arab spring does this intervention reinforce it or undermine it i you know what it means for what is the arab spring i mean the arab spring was was was a number of rebellions most of which was suppressed. today all three of which. we did it was going to egypt yes you know what's. could well be that iraq of bahrain a better world for a lot of talk of the government this would have been for for the interim for the world to topple i just all i knows is not my responsibility there is no provision part anymore we are not charged by the electorate or what the world can go around invading other people's countries we don't like their regimes it's just not our job simon jenkins thank you.
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day lead. you were with r.c.a. records to be alway remotes go just one story to update you on right now and that's it eight people including and seven year old girl being killed in a car bomb blast in the republic of dagestan in southern russia all except run of the victims were civilians but last also wounded six simply example says an explosive was planted in a car parked on a road crossing in the central never shin's a district and criminal investigation is now under way we'll have more they said around fifteen minutes time here on our team. in the meantime though let's get
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a sports rounds out with. me good to see you again and what sir says coward able to do last night is in the need did so with applause and i yeah they really did beat the showed but they are the top four playing side this week in russia they pretty much thrashed porto cisco lost to enter last night we're going to look up the story of the night of us in just a second. great to have you with us this hour this is sports day i mean these are top stories. off the mark zinni beatport you in some petersburg who are in their first points of this year's champions league campaign. battling baller one of the soviet union's most famous basketball stars n.b.a. hall of famer are very disappointed remains in stable condition after suffering a heart attack. on trying times we catch up with russian wrigley player constantine
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rushkoff food despite having a storming world cup now it finds himself seeking a new club. let's start with football where it's been a night to remember for isn't the same petersburg side beating portuguese top dogs porto to claim their first points of the champions league campaign the first half ending one one after produce james to regas on the month exchanged goals within the opening twenty minutes but the second period was to belong to the home side hours after the visitors forget to seal a received his marching orders for a second yellow card to dangerous through cough again of the much dummy netting for a three one win in the northern russian side no top group e. for a couple of hours out at least. tonight seven other games not just on their way but no goals in any of them as yet it's in the need screwed up a well could go both the russians if they managed to record their second straight
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win of the tournament away to shocked or reeling champions barcelona are seeking their first win at the expense of the table research seven time winners milan take on big debutants pleasant chelsea and plenty of their go ahead to have currently out the missed style of fire leverkusen arctic non-bank in their first home group stage game since two thousand and five in the same group. while in group after our stellar entertaining greek champions a limp it's pretty dormant and group leaders from our say going at it in germany. two more russian representatives are on constantly juvie on thursday evening in the europa league rubin who is payout while looking motif under exactly a decade after the real women thrust the belgians five one in the champions league puts into the game is pretty well leaders are proclaiming opening round victories a fortnight ago the russians now having all three points up for recovering from a cold on against sturm two into on thanks to victor of beaner the charge of luck
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motif in frightening form of late all round. charges known beaten in their past fourteen games well the belgians made light work of a k. oftens thrashing the greeks for one in under. manchester city manager roberto mancini has said as has no future with the club after the argentinian striker refused to enter city's champions league clash with byron munich on choose day as a substitute if one player has a lot on morning play for months as is even a cheerleader these be. for me you can play them if you want to improve and i think this will come to come to play with us. the man widely regarded as the soviet union's greatest ever basketball player is now in stable condition after suffering a heart attack or foetus suppleness was playing the game in his lithuanian hometown of colonists when he went into cardiac arrest historic center who played half a dozen seasons with the portland trailblazers in the n.b.a.
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is expected to remain in hospital for at least a week eight time european player of the year played in his home country for throughout the entire nine hundred eighty s. before going on to further success as a real madrid and portland forty six year olds of almost a three time olympic medalist was inducted into the n.b.a. hall of fame this summer. our best wishes quite to him let's move to tennis where the quest for a second pan pacific open crown and three years has stepped up a notch the russian booking her quarterfinal spot with a hard fought win over julia gooch is and took you type at first sets would have to be decided by tiebreaker german gorge is staying well in the reckoning before heading long on her own serve the second following a similar pattern which sharapova rallying from five three die in the siberian natives poise eventually telling taking the march on serves seven six seven six the finals for. another couple of russians in the last eight hours well world before
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going to rio is one of them after taking care of czech seventy seven in some style six one six two how the one sided clash finished up. when real when i meets compactor you can reoccur olenka herself not the notable scalp of ana evanovich on a six three six one scoreline beaten serb suffering a sore of part midway through the encounter muscovite her leg is lost w.t.f. success was back in two thousand and eight inside korea. and the biggest shock of the competition to date also occurred on wednesday world number one car line was beaten in three sets by kaia kanepi is still only in kenya be adding to her growing list of accomplishments by overcoming the dane seven five one six six. summer olympics in london kick off in just over ten months time meaning it's all
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hands to the pump for games organizers however the chairman of the british olympic association still knowledge to fit in a quick trip to moscow to conduct this spot of business lord moynihan president of the russian olympic committee alexander you cough signing a brotherly title cooperation a memorandum between the nations the agreement basically stating that the countries will share training camps experience in sports science and swap coaches and specialists in the build up to the olympics and indeed beyond one who earned silver in rowing out in one thousand nine hundred eighty knots who games explains more. we are both cities so there's much we can learn from each other and we intend to do so secondly and very important we are both there for the athletes so we'll be looking at areas of cooperation in the winter sports as well as in some sports to see how we can take forward coaching exchange of information exchange preparation of the athletes a whole range of different issues to support the athletes in both countries brings
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us to the rugby world cup where georgia have reason to celebrate for only the second time in tournaments history the last seeing off from india by sixteen points in palmerston north a tight first half ending with georgia ahead by just three points after the rimini and scrum well gave as good as they got to their opponents more of a loss trees park but the power of the georgians will tell in the end start. going over for the games only try storage and sure they are heading into their last clash with argentina in victorious and. a much improved performance. but. we want to have a very good march abuse. continues to russia's final match at the ruby world cup when they take on a string. on saturday our correspondent richard roth reports they caught up with one player who certainly are his reputation in new zealand constantine rushkoff the
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spite that the flyhalf now finds himself without a club. constantin rushkoff has been on the move for most of his life born in kazakhstan he would move to rush hour in his early teens to continue his rugby development afford a passing for france after the turn of the millennium he took up the sport of the age of twelve however things could have been very different for the thirty two year old had taken different career path as he used to be junior tennis number one. of the course i thought it would take a lot of time to get to the top in tennis those time goes by the champions are getting younger and younger the money in tennis is older this world in comparison to rugby but i've never regretted my decision. constantine has been playing for the last decade in france i once played with a russian of however over the last couple of years as a member of a massive upgrade team which included one of world rugby his most famous ever
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players. i was very lucky to end up at the same club is john a lot more i wasn't very lucky that he decided to quit the game not long after i joined he had a lot of injuries and health problems he's now taking walks in and wants to compete at a professional level but unfortunately i don't think he will ever return to the rugby pitch i know him and he's one of the nicest guys you could ever wish to meet up with. constantine had been enjoying his first ever world cup up until he received some very bad news a couple of days ago he was released from us saved as the french club ran into financial difficulties i decision which came as a massive shock to him and now he's looking for a new team to play for preferably in europe. i definitely want to keep on playing and i'm studying for a degree of the moment for life after rugby but i would like to find
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a new core and have no intention of heading up my board for at least the next three years it's a tough time of the the moment. one teen who is one of the more respected members of the russia's cog after being constantly moving from one place to the next since is early teens and thirty two year old would like nothing more than see out the remainder of his playing career in europe and a good display against australia could certainly help him to put himself in the shop window for potential suitors but it should come full freedom to your own to a new zealand i'm not sure we have to leave the sport for this our weather is next then in a couple of minutes alex is here with a nice. car shows that so much of a lot of people at nigeria will see all the world cup western liberal agent ism is it ever justified for such military interventions within the confines of
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