oh i'm sorry no washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture to add insult to injury to america's job crisis there's a new crisis brewing health care premiums to skyrocket over thirty thousand bucks since time for a radical transformation of our nation's health care system and later tonight really take i'll explain how we could all wake up one morning in november of next year scooby doo is our president who.

it's wednesday that i when i'm alone liberal and go up against two conservative political commentators to debate that we've biggest stories so far our panel tonight vince colonies page editor of the daily caller dot com and see concert not only conservative consultant and founder and president and c.e.o. and chairman of the board of let's go over and bottle washer ok there you go all right it appears we're headed for a health care crisis in america if you don't consider fifty million people being uninsured and existing health care crisis and you guys are survey of employer based insurance found the premiums have increased one hundred thirteen percent since two thousand and one they're expected to double over the next decade and so the average annual premium for families over thirty two hundred dollars to meet employers for seeing their workers to foot the bill for their health insurance so just how much lower are going to take the stuff well you know a little bit you know i think what we're looking at is you know obamacare didn't actually head in the direction of solving the problem or looking at i think the

kaiser health survey is actually really interesting and actually sort of telling the health care problem that needs to be attacked and that's that we need to figure out ways in the private market to actually resolve this health care issue and as a lot of samples for example thirty. go ahead you know i was going same example of that has worked in any other developed country. i'm sure and the only one i know of a switzerland i got the solution to due to the number one reform that would do it was a lot it was the height of hypocrisy on the part of the obama administration to somehow insist that they have the authority to mandate health insurance based on the interstate commerce clause but they will you buy across state lines. so if you want if you want true reform allow purchase across state lines you'll have a dramatic rush you know that's one of those sung by things is something that is just i know it's not a sound bite and let me explain why why why it is a sound bite that's one of the and it's the same thing with credit cards for example the law and thank god says that individual states can can have their

insurance commissioners who can make sure that the people in the state don't get screwed whether it's local control they also very much a tell them it's an issue but it's very much a local control issue and if you were a god only conservative now it's you would be gung ho you don't want these and here is come as you don't want to hear this is that people and they mandate all kinds of stupid things and in some of the so it's mandated by by health insurance law california mandates that every point every person that buys insurance had transgender surgery coverage that's absurd to california that's fine so if i live in california but i want to take it is only serving statement well if i want to buy in iowa when there's only seven state mandates moved to iowa you have to move why do you to move to pardon shuras so so you don't believe in local control ok i really want it to be believed and i would get more than i do in the free market was the idea there not is there's a there's a lot involved here mean obviously if you can open up the market to a national system that we people do have the option then you have like the creditor there everybody all the credit card all the and the everyone is like an organization so every one of the banks every one of these insurance companies will

have to compete against one another for national audiences and that's and you can have to the just buy by nature of the price we'll have there not right now this seven big insurance additionally third party payer system is the third party payer system is part of the problem and you have an issue where people don't have any skin in the game and almost on they're going to start feeling it now obviously because we're going to have these employers like you said that are going to have to pass more and more as they tighten their own belward on i will show you that it is . so not tether it health insurance so the employer it's absurd it's a world war two we're a dinosaur that needs to go out soliciting all the government was going to your party for everybody meaning you like so glad. care bill the so-called job creating program that the bush administration worked on for a said told flooded i made them as i am oh the last to know in the folder they. don't fund it right the so-called job creators are hard at work trying to kill jobs and you know the franco that autumn is thousands of layoffs appear at a wall street here now we've got goldman sachs announcing that they're going to

have one hundred one point two billion dollars in costs by laying off a thousand american workers at the same time these the the apologists for these same banks are saying oh we can't raise the taxes on banks there's they pay fifteen percent income tax oh my god we can't raise the taxes they were headed towards capital gains or well it is actually have again is a variation on income tax but it's a double taxation they've already paid income does what it is that absolutely is they paid money on the contracts of the taxes the money they made then they invested and then they get screwed on fifteen percent on that and what's absurd is a charge fifty percent on a capital gains when the maximum you can deduct the maximum loss you conduct in any given year is three thousand dollars it's an absurd scam so and so you're saying here saying that a carpenter who goes to work and uses hammer and he's already paid taxes on the money he used to buy that hammer is being double taxed when he's getting income tax . but still it's the sex scene where you're saying that people who make money with money should only pay fifteen percent maximum income tax but if you make money with

a hammer you should pay thirty six percent on a lower supported search for a good fifteen well. then you would be consistent but i mean when i say what i mean when i drive the idea is the question of getting laid off and going to common knowledge story to go to an economy that's clearly i mean tightening its belt across the board these are banks that are tightening their belts and how does that how does that happen i mean of course they have to tighten their expenses and sometimes that includes payroll everyone suffering in this economy and it doesn't just mean i think we're trying to not suffer and what you're trying to do is make a distinction business in the last year was the most profitable year for corporate america in the history of this nature it's really like you think of money no it was it was a good government i mean they didn't see this it was they laid off all kinds of people in there said not true two trillion dollars but we wait for those for the money that they're sitting on in the sitting on the arguments interesting why do you think any company would sit on money right now. i mean it's clear that you have a government government regulation and that government regulations who sit on the money they want but they'd love to do the rest i think that's absurd well there is no demand in the economy right now you know we're we're in a depression we're on the edge of the dropping regulatory and pulls all over the

place and they're not going to invest in one name one yeah e.p.a. is not a regulatory oversight an agency dropping regulatory abel's like enforcing it cap and trade even though it never got past the n.l.r.b. is telling capitol when they say something than ever slow they're looking for ways to solve it was never asked and the idea is he sees jamming it better throats that's a regulatory angle it's just been brought and these regulations so it always one or all regulations i'm from you mention agencies of course agencies beget regulations and that regulations come from from people who are saying you know i'd really rather not have my children be poisoned i'd really rather have the aerobatic come from the people's congress they can't just be jammed through by exactly british regulatory fee but tom if your system is a curator and stop them and tom what they should they should they should be doing the first bit of stuff and any time they are over but there's a review and you've made it you kind of misleading generalization about regulation are you saying you're in favor of all regulation across you know and neither am i

opposed to all i mean that's a that's a closer it's rightly shirley and that's and that's my objection to it is that you know these cops struck a start of brutal crackdown on wall street and you go see the video this guy put the spirit of the mace right this woman's eyes when she was just standing there they were they were hurting and then and it turns out that this cop has apparently several civil rights violations in the past these kinds of things apparently as those who political things although we're not sure but. the question when in fact here let's just show our viewers the saw this picture that we're talking about are. or . the. supposed to be moving in she was moving well actually she couldn't they were

there were no one around her they were they were urging people into and confined areas will arrange things in the spring but that's i don't want to debate the relative merits of that police officer that case and all of us were there and and you know it probably should be adjudicated so i'm curious about the larger question are you know our military our police departments all across the country are being hyper militant militarized are we turning into a police state well you know i think i kind of on both sides of the shoot it this issue i've seen police officers who have stretched their authority far too far i mean you see police officers who get behind a badge and they and they actually feel unable to do things that they really shouldn't be doing and that that's the type of thing that has to be stopped in this video and you i think you appropriately said you know we don't know the context is one of those things where you can see a clip and a lot of people are in rage there's a lot of passion you see a lot of obviously young women who are being pepper sprayed and the types of emotions that any person should have are while that's pretty shocking but also i'd

like to know more but we have you know we had posse comitatus in the eighty's seventy's until about five years ago that said that it was illegal for the federal government to turn its guns guns on its own citizens i don't understand why the bush administration repealed that we we have now a nationwide push but police departments to criminalize photographing public officers doing you know really what i do agree on and i say it just it will be debating if it just seems ok i got in that case then let's move along on the c.d.c. food safety listeria we've got this listeria contamination now seventy two people have been sickened thirteen have been killed kansas missouri nebraska texas. ron paul state and ron paul's the guy who says you know. should not be any food safety regulation long you see i know. what's the deal here represent a republican jack kingston kingston defended the cuts eighty seven million dollars from the f.d.a. thirty five million dollars in u.s.d.a.

go specifically for food safety jack kingston said kingston said do we believe that mcdonald's and kentucky fried chicken and safeway and kraft food and any brand name that you can think of that these people are concerned about food safety food safety america is very safe because the private sector self policing and you know i would think by and large that there's a strong incentive for that but isn't self policing you know doesn't this prove that waiting until after the harm is done is stupid because the word stupid is relying on the government to do the executed properly we've been so busy time and time again the thirty six million pounds of poison throat he got through we have to assume that at thirty six million pounds the government got all got a hold of some of it looked at it and said oh on the off there's a lot of this is about a one inspector for about every seven thousand food processing facilities going to so half so. if people are going to like you know that if that company that had that thirty seven million pounds of turkey was actually doing this free market self

inspection they would acquire it was only you know when it comes to food inspection one of the few things the government i think has gone right now i think you know disagree with me on this point but gone right over time has been this is something to an extent food safety you know what you're dealing with here is a question of diminishing returns a century ago if you were to look at the numbers of people who are affected by food food borne illnesses and deaths for that matter you'd be seeing in the thousands by a certain not all but you know in the food right now a lot of the drugs there's a whole and although there's a lot of contribution contributing factors but now you're seeing one obviously how many how many where we've seen died so his numbers i think i mean right now i mean that is a i hate to say this but there is the government actually does actually attribute a cost an individual's life or some point there and it's far too expensive to be able to create the types of diminishing returns that actually gets people to very. people killed in something like this i would say that they need to continue to do their jobs but they you know i don't think that this calls for any sort of expansion of their i broke artists will say i don't like the term soft policing because it's not the company themselves or police and it's the marketplace if kraft

keeps putting out bad food no one's going to buy kraft and they're done it's not them policing themselves it's three hundred twenty where you can see abstracts of the that's that's a great and noble argument but it's also an argument that he's reactive rather than proactive it's an argument where what you're saying is after ten or fifteen or twenty people are dead then we'll do the law and we've got to realize we want a provocateur which is government or quick fire question here a. is that over here it is a security assessment team with the department of energy basically the same guys to make sure that our nuclear weapons factories are safe and did a test on just how safe are deeble like trying to voting machines are what they found is someone with just twenty six bucks worth of tools and eighth grade knowledge is science going to act in the machines change the vote results and leave no trace behind so in this age of hacktivism groups like anonymous are we really to believe that they're not going to try something like this next year so let's assume they do which new president would be brought to us by hackers and who would you be

most satisfied with eight charlie sheen's platform to legalizing all drugs be done trump of his tax credit for one hair plugs go bad or see some of the sand and his gun rights platform i think these anonymous people actually revel in the opportunity to throw some random characters i'm going to go with the elmer funke at the end i'm going to use anything as you know i think they like that whole a cartoon character. if you somebody say oh it's seventy seven years i mean somebody pretty good or maybe leghorn klug or what would be a very low order. yeah there you go ok i'll reveal mine during the daily take that i thank you guys thank you very much and so the seat great to see you bill. coming up. coming i bet you didn't know your love for monday night football or beloved courtside seats or your favorite basketball game is fueling the right wing agenda after the break i'll tell you how your team spirit and dollars go hand in hand with politics. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions great

through get through it and may who can you trust no one who is your view with the global machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.

remember the old adage that sports and politics don't mix well the ties go much further than most sports fans can imagine professional sports teams owners are among the wealthiest people in the world and it turns out that much of the profit these people make off also tending their games is going toward promoting far right political agendas and pushing that ideology onto unsuspecting fans and they do it without any public scrutiny so it sports fans be so willing to shell out hundreds of dollars to see their favorite teams on the field if they knew what political enterprise. their money is funding if xyron politics and sports editor of the nation magazine and author of bad sports how owners are ruining the games we love is here to offer some insight and this is your debut album back to great to be here it's great to have you with us i think most people have no idea what the owners are up to you want to just give us the overview breakdown sure i call it the kaiser soze say principle i mean did you see the movie the usual suspects did oh you

didn't ok well everyone else in america did but there's a line where the bad guy says the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing us that he didn't exist owners tend to do their business and shadows and they've turned sports into a very highly read leveraged real estate scam that goes to funding the kinds of political organizations on the far far right of the american fringe call it the colorado springs consortium groups like focus on the family of the family research council groups of that nature you know groups that promote reparative therapy for people groups that. do the kind of anti-abortion work that puts your teeth on edge and groups that really go after the kind of basic civil liberties and civil rights that we fought for these last many decades i mean and the thing about it that's so troubling is if these guys are rich and that's what they want to fund fine great the problem is that they also take billions of dollars in public subsidies both on their operations that's what makes it so noxious i remember in two thousand as the

you know when bush was becoming a candidate we were all starting to pay some serious attention to him discovering that he had taken a three hundred thousand dollars investment and i think it was borrowed money and in fact it might have been law borrowed. funded as well companies and and then basically you know into the dallas rangers and then it's the rangers where you had the texas rangers rangers and basically blackmailed the town and got over one hundred to one hundred seventy million something like that in a hundred ninety million hundred million dollars and to actually take the state it's so funny because you think about texas. now proud it serves our of texas being its own country and we don't let the government tell us what to do well they let the government tell them what to do when it comes to executing people obviously and they let the government sees the land for the person under eminent domain for the purposes of building the ball park in texas is publicly funded stadium in george w. bush i have to doubt that three hundred thousand dollars loan to the tune of

fifteen million dollars when he sold his interest really is another friend of his father by the way a texas billionaire by the name of tom hicks so you know he has this been for five thousand percent increase in revenue as a result of basically socialism yeah and is that actually are and for the rich right for you is that characteristic in fact it's not really socialism it's crony capitalism of the very worst kind is that characteristic of it's going to have all these are the big players that the companies are i would definitely like to give another example to so i think it really shows how out and if areas this kind of stuff can be fillin ships he's one of the richest people in the united states he's only been three interviews in the last thirty years and according to a spokesperson phil believes that's three interviews too many wouldn't talk to me from my book philip anschutz is the minority owner of every pro sports team in the los angeles area he has taken in hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies over his lifetime failing entrance is also the owner of the weekly standard and the examiner newspapers both the weekly standard and the examiner which is

a right leaning paper with a far right editorial page they both operate at a loss they lose money the standard has are people on national television simply because of the weekly state exactly exactly what they're subsidized by us through phil and shit so frankly for all their talk about the market in the magical hand of the market if the market really did its work there wouldn't be a weekly standard and there wouldn't be an examiner newspaper we're underwriting this through our tax dollars not even through buying tickets that's what's also very nefarious about this it's not the owning the team it's not the ten dollar beer that makes the pop it's a. selection of code. no your goals no no no no it's real estate and it's owning the land and having public land a given to you and for the purposes of having a c.e.o. today yes and that pay for the construction we can take sandra day o'connor for that because when the eminent domain law was written she wrote the decision and in the decisions about how the government could seize the land if it's for a public use like and she lists like three things in the last thing she says is

we're a sports stadium it's the last thing she lit and that has been the very slender legal reasoning like it's i believe the three things she lists are like a hospital a school or a sports stadium and so it says sensual public functions exactly exactly and who knows how conscious she was of what she was unleashing but she really did unleash something i'd love to give another example then i go for this is the one that says so much dick the vos multi-billionaire owner of the orlando magic has taken one point five billion dollars in state subsidies from the state of florida to build the new audrina for the orlando magic this is the family that basically owns republican politics and i was born and grew ok so you know well what's his name from blackwater there you go you know if you was over that well that's the thing dick the boss's son dick jr married betsy prince the daughter of edgar prince who's a longtime friend of dick voss they were actually heads of the local bircher

society up there and michigan for a while yeah exactly and look at erik prince though erik prince the head of blackwater the former head of blackwater got over seven hundred million dollars in government contracts throughout the bush administration while dick de vos is one of the largest givers to the republican party during that time in fact he's responsible for the largest single donation to the r. and c. in its history so if you see how these things work and we're underwriting this dirty kind of lobbying and the kind of privatized for eternity army that blackwater represents with all its murderous intentions and it's sports becomes the prime economic engine and. for that process and in the last thirty seconds i thought it was amazing things in your article was the miller the hyper militarization of sports oh yes rip on them for no no absolutely i mean i mean david petraeus there when the first point of games the way in which you saw that the recent ten year anniversary of nine eleven was really given over not to the president but to the n.f.l. to celebrate throughout the day and that was the public space and it really was

a celebration of war more than it was the kind of somber remember instead me as a new yorker would have much and much more comfortable with quite frankly and as i said i thought the best thing the n.f.l. ever did was after nine eleven they canceled the games that next week they opted for understatement ten years later the opposite they've done so much for illuminating us my privileged and much appreciated more sports teams in america run like the packers actually community owned station we love him or hate him they're owned by the people not a right wing billionaire and they just won the super bowl i don't think that's a coincidence. i mean we learned that our democracy could be hacked by an eighth grader with twenty six bucks that's what a security assessment team with the u.s.

department of energy discovered when they successfully hacked into a deep cold electronic voting machine and were able to change voting results without leaving any trace behind here's how they did it. inserting electronics into the electronic voting machine in a classic man in the middle attack allows would be vote tampering and troll the touch screen but also be information being sent to the voting machines computers the cost of parts for this attack is ten dollars to twenty six dollars in retail quantities much cheaper. this attack has not require understanding what the computer or microprocessor in the voting machine is doing this attack highlights the importance of these folks who crack this machine by the way are the same guys that make sure the facilities that manufacture our nuclear weapons are secure is a government agency that did this and the security assessment team leaders said about their ability to hack this voting machine this is

a national security issue despite all this in next year's election thirty percent of voters are expected to use these very same hack easy voting machines but the rest of the world have shelved citing security concerns and today with the rise of activist groups like anonymous it's gaping hole in the security of our elections could be exploited for absurd purposes we've already seen what anonymous is capable of from taking down government websites in tunisia egypt libya syria and bahrain to hacking into emails belonging to the security firm h.b. gary federal taking on the bank of america to organizing mass protests against san francisco's transportation system and most recently uncovering the identity of a new york city cop who maced women on wall street and posting his name address and family members on the web i mean the list really goes on and on so i imagine if they and other hackers coordinated together to hack into voting machines nationwide

and skew the voting results of say the republican party coming up the republican party primaries coming up in a couple of months suddenly libertarian hero ron paul might be the guy to take on president obama and you see the republican leaders heads exploding. or maybe the hackers just want to be missed steve us and suddenly these digital voting machines recorded millions of write in votes for lady gaga the republicans then have to rally around platform of gay rights imagine that i know sounds like a joke but it's serious if you are voting machines are so vulnerable that an eighth grader with basic radio shack tools can act into them think about what a collective of people around the world who do both their lives to add computers and aren't too pleased with our government right now who do maybe we'll just wait until the next general election to act vote and imagine what would happen if on election day next year when the votes are counted we discover that scooby doo was

just elected president it would be just a surprise to could you see the headlines around the world screwed either way is it a landslide americans allowed to cartoon dog frankly given the republican field right now that might be an improvement and would at least be a dog's revenge for mitt romney tying his dog to the roof of his car and driving hundreds of miles. former massachusetts governor mitt romney was in pittsburgh today for a fund raising visit he answers some questions about a boston globe report during a family vacation for twenty four years ago he strapped is dog cage with the dog inside it to the top of his car during a twelve hour road trip you know peta has not been my stand over the years and they're not happy that my dog likes fresh air serious point here is that if we the people created a government to protect and minister of the commons if we own the government as

part of that commons then the most important part of that commons of the government is the vote it's the be at the core thomas paine's the beating heart of democracy so privatizing that vote. and you know what of companies that handle our votes in secret and are not transparent and not accountable to us is a serious crime against democracy itself then again maybe a scooby doo presidency would finally lead to the long overdue legalization of marijuana. well after the great author of evolutionary biologist richard dawkins joins me for a special edition of conversations with great minds. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions

it's completely break through and through to people may who can you trust no one who is interview with the global machinery to see where are we heading state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.