spacings presence among the stars and test the waters ahead of the country's plans for its own space station. next here in our team we follow in the footsteps of two israeli activists who continue to struggle for peace in the middle east by challenging the view of israel. i think breaking the silence all about telling the story of the occupation were never there. we're here to tell you how you conduct an occupation. a little. if the palestinians will be afraid that the i.d.f. is all the time everywhere will be afraid of attacks.

so what do you do to give them this year you make your presence felt it's going to . i would so sixty to seventy percent of what i did as a common soldier in the occupied territories was to do with deterrence with you know doing what we call making our presence felt. you go out. should somebody so they are not going to be doors run to the other corner invade another house. just to let the palestinians feel that we control the city we are the bosses we know what's going on we are everywhere all the time. when you're just charge you're on the stand. this is a way to. to occupy civil society civilians. it's not talking about. guarding. the borders of israel and i joined the army and

went you know to protect my country starting about protecting five hundred settlers . inside a palestinian city. in hebron well inside the west bank lives hundred and fifty thousand palestinians and five hundred israeli settlers nowhere else is the hatred between palestinians and israelis more palpable than here the settlers have taken over central parts of hebron but palestinians are hindered from moving freely. checkpoints military installations concrete blocks and israeli soldiers are all new precedent. in hebron one finds the most extreme and aggressive israeli settlers there is

no palestine everything is easy trail. arabs get out. of. the settler children are protected by israeli soldiers and paris often do courage their young to talk to. the patriarch abraham is said to be buried in hebron the city is one of the holiest places in judaism. you know one must realize that hebron historically has always been a jewish city of king david founded his kingdom here in hebron. our forefathers up abraham isaac and jake. their wives are old buried here in

hebron peace so it has been a jewish place for thousands of years. was was . do you still believe no committee for the stone that's what you would be this state is a jewish state and we are here to stay because four thousand years ago god promised this land to the jewish family live what we have a divine right to this land t. if you need or through war nor violence but as a gift from god. to me was. here a trade or not. and it may your name be forgotten it was you was. on.

a low there we are from jerusalem today jude the former soldier in hebron informs journalists diplomats and others about the situation in hebron that's an if someone is willing to listen someone is willing to syria that i don't have the right not to take the reason why i wake up in the morning and i go to sleep at night and then the next morning i wake up and still do what i do is because i don't have another option because if i'm not part of a solution i'm part of the problem. i tend do it in a different. place israel is my home this is where i live. i just don't see for myself. oh you have a. good will good will you know that good will of the. old you are traitor. you are

a terrorist jewish blood is on your hands. you should be ashamed of your criminal. laws of the people should. you look at this boy would you be happy if something happened to leave you murder. when i was a soldier and have. to say cynically but that's a sign that we are ready then we understood that something is wrong in this reality we used to say that in israel people shouldn't get the right to vote before do because of her. once you understand her when she confronts her bone confronted with the most important question that is what do you choose the land of israel. whether what is important is equality democracy rights or lent and the settlers are afraid that.

the state of israel. now you are with the europeans who also sponsor hamas. resolder family. unfortunately. throughout history religion and nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. bloodshed. and. countless from my point of view desecrations of god's name. the judaism that i grew up with. teaches me something different judaism has to be part of the solution. when i first

spent time here. and started to realise that the vast majority of religious jews in this country understands judaism in a way so different from what i learned from my rabbis and my teachers my parents my family. you know there were times there are times i said well maybe i'm the crazy one but then you go back to the sources and you see what's there. and. now it is true of course that if you look in the bible you cannot escape the fact that god. promises the entire land of israel including the west bank the occupied territories to the jewish people in perpetuity but that same difficulty ology makes very clear you see that in the bible you see it in the prophets and the toy itself that how much of that land we will be living at any given point in history will expand or contract according to our moral behavior and so there may be

a paradox here at the very acts that are necessary to continue the occupation of the wary ones that make as morally unfit. to be their. as holy as the land of israel is human life is more holy. so if you can prevent bloodshed by territorial compromise as painful as it is to give up part of. the places that is located your history to god's promise to to the place where it came from prophets while it's human life. with hands down trumps it's so much more important.

no. i've never been but i think that. the majority of the christina struggle is a civilian it's an insurrection. when

a child throws a stone at a soldier it's just a fight. when you wage a war against a civilian population with an army it's incredibly stupid to believe that the violence is not going to. go back at you at some point i'm not going to tell you that it's that it's right or legitimate or or more o two to blow up a bus with civilians but if you want to. bomb gaza and kill a thousand four hundred people in. in in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect until the feet. you have to be either extremely naive or extremist. sometimes in some cases you choose unjust means because they are the only means that you have i'm not in that situation i can tell you i do not support suicide at

times but i'm not in the position where i have luckily i'm not into position where i have to make that choice in my position i make my choice and it is to support civilian insurrection. of postings against israeli or oppression of finance definitely does have an effect. i mean i think you'd have to be very naive to claim that you exist in a very violent situation where a lot of very extreme violence is directed towards you and your environment and the people you care about and to save it it doesn't affect you. obviously everyone is afraid to die and is free to get hurt but. being part of

something of a struggle worth dying for is something worth living for. want to get out of here. there is one very sensitive issue for israeli peace activists family discussion about the occupation. rarely if ever are outsiders allowed to know about sensitive political discussions within the family. my mother. has their activities which i'm in favor of i mean i don't think that muslim which is bad. they're there to try and help the roadblocks to be more humane. and as a political statement to oppose occupation the test for oh no it can't.

you can always and blame them. you know because i was helpless perceived by the palestinian people exactly like we perceive come out i was said let's say never will leave. and say the situation was easy i said that when i look at my son and i imagine him when he's eighty i don't think the situation will be solved place a hope it's going to be there without any human rights you know they can live there that's something but then they can be that. can't be no rights no no get out of here there's a jihad against it's. december two thousand and eight israel attacks the gaza strip one thousand four hundred palestinians and thirteen israelis are killed most of the casualties are civilians that's. breaking the silence has interviewed several israeli soldiers giving testimony

about abuse and excessive use of force. because the testimony of one two three four five hundred people. one after the other this is really it's not. abusing the palestinians on a daily basis looting the structure of tribes of you know the story proper to killing whatever comes up in the testimonies. you can come from a different world and then started describe the stories as were primes as. i know one of the. this is what we've done what's wrong. testimonies about excessive use of force are met with silence and denied in israel . i don't think silence is an israeli this

is silence is a human sickness ok we're not the you know when you don't look good you don't confront and there. we prefer to continue our life itself on its. supporters of this war you're killing children. shame on you shame on you. nobody shouts nobody kleist we refuse to be murderers here all traders here all traders shame on you shame on you these really attack on gaza according to these really press was supported by ninety percent of the strangeness. jonathan polak participates in several demonstrations against the gaza war. oppressing the population is

a war crime and people are dying. traitors traitors. just to arabs. i. respect on the palestinian flag. i i i think have to understand that. this just only if israel does exist there fascist extreme right and it's growing and strengthening but. there really is a democracy for jews in israel it's being limited more and more with time but for. as we speak now there really is democracy for jews in israel but it's not really a democracy it's not coursey because if you're jewish you have certain democratic

rights and if you're not sure your deeds these rights are much less and and if your . a resident of the. president territory. you are under a completely different legal system. but i'm not a. right wing extremists and nationalists from the organization. are demonstrating against jonathan polak and other activists during a demonstration against the wall. into to encourage soldiers to shoot protesters. come on guys use live ammunition give them one in the head. go to hell

get out of here. to protest against the violence of. the anarchists are both israeli and international activists they called himself he said this activist they have nothing to do. but beijing is a very bad war i mean of course they use this word because it's a it's a very extreme terminology we're not. we're not. just . for. so.

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i. look at. the current gear as we speak i'm facing six indictments and i've faced the more before i don't know if i love a little bit you know i dare i get acquitted or i get convicted i dare stay free or i spend some time in jail. but it's part of the sport of reality. you want to sit at home you know do anything that's understandable. but if you want to get out and i think. for one to live. you have to get out and do something about what you see in the world around you. and then here and now this is what we have.

my concern is whether something is more or learn. whether something fits within my mind more about injuries or whether something is right or wrong. and i think we'll have a very important thing to understand for us. as a people who have done the very very bad things don't have horns they look like they look like you you know i fired every night dozens of grenades into neighbors or people with i use palestinians as human shields. you know all the things that i can tell you and then you will you'll be shocked you know. it's me and we're sitting now in the same room.

you know if you want to put in jail every israeli soldier would be used the palestinians or my generation should go to jail than in one long line left right marching in digital because we all this is if the levels of different ways and different yes. but no one was there came out clear no want to serve there has clean hands. were.

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