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they are joined by. the rising to the have and the u.s. surrenders its biggest subtle program china as well on its way to building its own heavenly hour so is this the beginning of the next great space race. seems to be getting definitely continue until more alan for so as he's holed up in a men's room and the fight against wall street why does it seem freedom of speech and the right to assemble are being forced rooming and silent here from the protester from the shot this video. plus things aren't always what they see me but
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if you want to be able to tell by reading some of the mainstream headlines so i'd like you have a false sense of economic reality what's really happening. and from one failed headline to another maybe it's time for the mainstream media to take a hike out of these unhappy images smothered how blind happy hikers returned from scary iran why is the mainstream media so many taking a trip and to abuse records abroad and there are so many more and their own backyard. it's thursday september twenty ninth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our. protesters occupying wall street continue to gain momentum for nearly two weeks now protesters have been spilling out on not only wall street but the streets of boston or los angeles and chicago to name
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a few these people say they represent ninety nine percent of the population in the united states but up with the greed and corruption of the corporate elite and the government that supports them now the movement is ago and despite efforts to silence at reports and amateur video of police resorting to violence crowds performing mass arrests and even pepper spraying protesters seemingly without provocation a lot of the protesters going in mansfield to couple of incidents on camera take a look. does that wasn't struggle to have their voices heard is freedom of speech and the right to assemble under attack in america i spoke to an hour earlier and asked her to share her story take a listen. and the protests and we were in the streets. or walking the streets and we got to union square and things didn't change the cops
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more aggressive and much more. to quell everyone's excitement. and he's peddling sections of the crowd media and we're. going to believe that he needs. me to. begin. and then. we want some concrete reason for them in the face and. their face the you so hard it gets used to. just them live suddenly going and going to. tell us all about what you were seeing around you why do you think that the police were resorting to violence. it seems to be a combination of frustration i think maybe maybe our appearance new.
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people that they associate with the syrian rebel rousers or people that they would expect even between words and think maybe even if they saw it as a preventive measure. inexplicable really and they do think that the actions that they were taking pepper spraying people are arresting them where they justified. i don't think so i mean i can understand being. interviewed. and just having things going on. in this case there is no going to be violent gestures noone is resisting arrest there is no. there is a lot of noise people shouting. and there can resume but there is no threat to the . ok and from your story and from what it sounds like there's definitely an attempt to stop there or that leads to silence these protesters to a certain extent do you think that protesting as love down upon these days and do
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you think that one of our fundamental rights as americans the freedom of speech and assembly is under attack well i think a lot of ways just for me to stand as far as the protestors not having to me being just organized soon ridiculous and i feel like that's coming from the same machine that it's interesting is as. they see it is this isn't just going to do really there's a lot of people. have their homes for fools the. other issues i just think you do and you know people who don't agree to some reasonably and you know recently new york mayor bloomberg warned that the unemployment crisis could trigger riots and social unrest do you think this is the direction that we could be happy. if we see you. right level especially if the cops react in the same way i don't think the anger and especially not the
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people in the crowd are too liberal in any sort of violence you are destruction from it could be right and i can see you go. back to figures that it. and you know a criticism you had mentioned earlier that we're seeing a lot about in the about this movement now in the mainstream media is that these protests lack organization they lack a unified message and as an observer and a participant of occupy wall street do you see this is this true. i think there's definitely learned you know there's some people preaching interview to your theory . that you need more government regulation but i think they all have in common seems to be frustration and distrust. but just the top one percent in the country seem to not be. sure it's all you can strictly.
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you see who are interested in spending their money. again thank you so much for sharing your story with us that was jane mansfield a protester with occupy wall street well despite protests nation why things are looking up today after u.s. reports show an economic rebound according to the latest headlines out this morning surprise finally some good news on the economic front here's a look at a few. stocks rally treasuries or trade on economy data german bow waves of bloomberg and financial stocks will lead a broader rally according to c.n.n. money and the wall street journal says u.s. stocks even higher as european markets look to rebound. one reason for the rosy headlines u.s. stocks in the euro rose today on stronger than expected economic data germany's lawmakers approved new powers for the euro zone rescue fund meanwhile here at home
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the number of jobless claims dropped sharply last week well new numbers show slight growth in the economy for the second quarter now for those of us who aren't economic experts could be forgiven or thinking or perhaps hoping that the economic doom and gloom could soon be a thing of the pass but is that really the case millions of americans remain unemployed as congress seems to be stuck in political gridlock the future of the euro zone remains unclear of europe's struggles to address its economic crisis and global investors are warning a financial meltdown and social unrest in the next fear of court and so we bloom bird survey out today so what's the verdict and economy that's slowly on them then or looming economic collapse for some answers earlier i spoke with edward harrison the owner of the blog credit write downs i asked him to break things down for those of us who are not financial experts and tell us which way the economic winds are
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blowing here are his predictions. i think. it's not very clear at this point but the. even at a minimum they are headed for a recession and a lot of that actually has to do with the policy response both in europe and in the . one in the united states we have. you know the end of school stimulus the end of any sort of support from the government to the economy that's going to be a headwind then we also have the federal reserve which is also going to keep things relatively. compared to the loosening that they had done before but in europe it's pretty much the same thing that you have austerity which is even more than what we have in the united states and you also have
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monetary policy which is also fairly tight but may be reduced at some point but both of those policy response is going to be restrictive unless we see some miraculous we in the consumer or in. companies it's going to be very difficult so sounds like some more doom and gloom what about being these numbers these headlines that we are seeing is this just a small south. but a long ways to go or i mean what can we gather anything positive from these outlines of these new reports you know there are one or two good things. none of them are necessarily a trend this point but we saw jobless claims which were under forty thousand for the first time in a long time was. fairly good numbers in the housing market it shows that during this summer selling season the housing market is stable and then we also saw g.d.p.
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was estimated at one point three percent annualized instead of one percent angle. which is better that then we had thought so that's good but that doesn't necessarily make any difference in terms of how things are proceeding going forward all right let's talk a little bit more about jobs because we did see a small drop in jobless claims but still more than forty percent. unemployed americans have been out of work for half a year or more four point five million americans haven't worked for a year or more and we even saw burning addressed the jobs issue yesterday calling it a national crisis do you think that this is changing anytime soon it's not going to change because at the end of the day what we're having a problem with is demand there's a lack of them in when people have jobs they don't go shopping don't buy things and therefore companies don't see any demand for their products and they will hire some
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boy that turns around how does it turn around there's an incremental buyer sometimes that the government. two or three years it has been the government and other governments not incremental and as a result we're going to have. economic weakness ok now i want to move on to the situation in your out what's going on in greece at the moment and how might it a fact a euro zone will be so that was is the woods what i call the extended protests strategy when you look at all of the market metrics for greece in particular it's pretty much a lock a certainty that greece will default the question is is how much of a haircut how much of a loss are the creditors for greece going to tape at this point the politicians are trying to extend this if it's the creditors will have to take this loss in the meantime that creates a contagion both in terms of the way that we saw in the previous headlines about
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the german voters you know the dutch voters but also. in terms of greece. it has a contagion to other countries in terms of how it has adopted italy as an example. of standard creditor write downs edward harrison. but in a free country that prides itself on free press truth as the post so when over propaganda a watchdog press is the pope to hold government accountable for abuses of power that happen at home last week two american hikers were released from an iranian jail a story that continues to make headlines here in the us the headline screamed abuse and iran but silences seems when it comes to abuses of power right here on u.s. soil the want to come sobrang the watchdog who back it says the u.s. press truly has artie's on a stuffy a churkin reports. the mainstream media watchdog over pleased to power days
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here you was going trick stories how most of these americans coming back after being held in prison stories ruined izing government crowded in going to be fully comprehend the threat that iran poses. well apparently we don't well america's own skeletons are shoved into the closet and seen a financial crisis happen at the meteor missed we see and you know a deep economic distress in this country that no one predicted we'd seen two wars go on despite projections that they were about to be and we see a basic attitude which i characterize as aid you all about us take the american hikers that were held in a new ring in prison mainstream headlines dramatizing and mulling over every detail with a simple plea let our kids go they're just waiting for the moment they've been waiting for persona while largely ignoring america's own ongoing detention abuses like
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those at guantanamo bay every time we complained about our conditions the guards would immediately remind us of comparable conditions a long time. he would remind us of cia prisons in other parts of the world this is left out of mainstream media coverage all that was mentioned was that americans were given a hard time in this prison world independent journalist has covered foreign policy for over thirty years and says modern day coverage avoids context the sordid history of iran began with the cia help overthrow the shah of iran in one nine hundred fifty three and put it in a regime that was tuned to american interests that's what the problem is and what iranians have been angry about ever since i. also angry americans out on the streets at home. with. their positions are routinely marginalized and presented as. the mainstream media authorized to ridicule and
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downplay true american protest and they like to think that this is just a very narrow group of people that say we're in the streets in the last couple weeks and in wall protests street protests. while applauding an arab spring uprising echoing the official stance of the american government many reporters many going to do some producers really want nothing more than to have access to government and they think of government as a source of news they think press conferences are a place where news is generated wanting to keep their jobs journalists played see i couldn't even begin to count how many times someone has told me you know i can't risk pissing off when i get my source i don't want to be cut out otherwise i may be able to work afraid of being blocked from the circle of insiders the mainstream media has traded integrity for access is causing relationship that's politicians play havoc with policies and laws while the media whether it's aware of it or not
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does the government's betting pools as a church or new york. and from our and all that i talked to the always outspoken brian backer national coordinator of the answer collection i wanted to dig deeper into all of that so i asked him a simple question what does the mainstream media approach to covering the story i have out there. and us as. i think we see with most of the corporate only media in the united states that they are called whatever the political position the line if you so speak it of the united states government and i think largely it's to sensationalize a story and largely to take the u.s. position in this case there's no question about the fact that the three hikers were arrested wrongly by iran held wrongly and ignoring the big question which is that the united states has been virtually at war with iran carrying out saying sions having commando operations carrying out cyber attacks against iran iran had
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a revolution in one thousand seventy nine that's the context in other words if you strip any particular at any particular incident even one is great is the rest of these hikers from the political and historical context the story loses meaning right and the mainstream media has used this incident as an opportunity to criticize and highly human rights injustices in iran not necessarily saying that that criticism isn't deserved but why have the basket of these two young men been over like. that that the similar acts of abuse occur right here in the u.s. and it gives other u.s. governments an excuse to do to do the same thing right i mean if we had the american media doing what they did in this case and highlighting the abuse of. those who have been detained by americans in iraq those who have been detained in afghanistan including iranian officials who have been detained for long periods of time in iraq or those who have been detained at guantanamo bay or in secret prisons
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around the country around the world and subjected to all kinds of torture the entire american people. be aware that torture bad imprisonment false imprisonment the violation of people's due process rights is a routine function of the united states government but instead because they are watching a corporate sponsored media they say well that's what's happening in iran that's what the iranian government does rather than focus on what their own government is doing which of course is far greater in terms of what it is doing around the world in terms of. disarray in people's due process rights. you know these hikers they reveal that while they were in iran that the guards would constantly remind them of comparable conditions and guantanamo back. and so do you think that the u.s. human rights record can be compared to iran's. well i i think the u.s. human rights record is one of the worst in the world and i think it's a fantasy that the u.s. media presents that somehow the americans are democratic and there's due process
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rights and people's people are not tortured when in fact it's just the opposite i don't know what the conditions are exactly in iran certainly i'm against any abuse of any prisoner held anywhere i think people's human rights and the rights as prisoners must be maintained whether it's iran or any other country but comparing the united states to iran we can see the u.s. has developed an entire global network of secret prisons and has authorized legally authorized the use of torture against people around the world and now we have the obama administration same chinning the same practices that were started under bush but also including the right of the american government to kill whoever they do whatever they want to and there are thousands of people who have been assassinated in targeted killings that's the grossest kind of human rights violation and taking that into account going to ask that a question if the tables were turned. legally
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wandered on to us and they were captured kind of approach do you think we would take do you think they would be treated in a similar fashion or would we have what do you think well we know that even people who are not accused of political crimes or spine like just mexicans or central americans who have come across the united states border illegally they're being held for years at a time and then be accorded they're torn away from their families i mean it's a fundamental violation of thousands hundreds of thousands of lives a million people have been deported by the obama administration that's more than any any other president if iran were here if iranian story demonize targeted country were here at the mexican or canadian border we can be sure that they would be arrested that they would be detained and they would probably never see the way. that was that thank you so much for joining us that was of brian bakker national coordinator of the answer. and the grim economy also taken its toll on
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nasa as the program has recently retired its last space shuttle fleet china now has its eye on the sky this after successfully launching an experimental model today china is well on its way to building its own heavenly palace so as the chinese space program is getting a thumbs up for its celestial ambitions and american astronauts take their thumbs out to hitch a ride on russian rockets is this the next start of the great space race well to answer that question i spoke to william anderson as i was a professor at the frostburg state university and i think the why sing would be would be to cooperate which i loose would be a great thing unfortunately we also have little voices here in this country claiming that somehow this is a threat to us i'm not sure how it's a threat to us but. i'm sure the very quotable people in washington will try to beat the drums and claim that we have to try to get back to the moon before the
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chinese do or maybe that this is the first step to war i don't know but i do believe that it would be a good thing to cooperate absolutely i understand that the u.s. they're there they see it as a threat because they think china could possibly be using space for military and veterans do you think that's a valid fear. i don't know if it's a valid fear i mean the united states certainly has done it and so we we tend to think that if we've done it why then. nobody else should be allowed to do it i'm not sure why we have that attitude here good nonetheless i do think. anything can be used i guess for military have visions but i really do not think that's where the chinese are headed the chinese have become much wealthier because they've gotten away from the socialism that dominated them for years and years they've gone much more to a market economy and much more to
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a colony where they're making things for the rest of the world so i'm not quite sure how china how people can square that with the idea we're trying to really want to do is make rockets so a combo of all the markets where it's selling things i just i'm quite sure how people come to that conclusion but you know that a lot of people in washington will come to lots of conclusions that are strange and you know the space leadership is often seen as a symbol of international leadership do you think he last losing its power when it comes to space will be symbolic of the u.s. overall decline of its power and influence in the world well that's an interesting point i do think that if we got out of the nasa business i mean that nasa is basically now just a hopeless bureaucracy and i know we put people on the moon in sixty nine i remember where i was i was in high school for a time and i do i think though that if we actually would allow the entrepreneurs to
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be turned loose and instead of making this a government operation really allow private companies to find what they can make out of space whether it's satellites or whatever. and or even space tourism that in fact i think we could become a very very good leader in space. but i think that if we want to depend on nasa then yeah you'll see that whatever position we have declining because nasa just is incapable i think really doing anything great anymore i am receipt of some more cop cooperation between china and russia russia sold china some space suits and some other space here i why isn't the u.s. part of this collaboration that's a good question and i think they would be great if they were i think you are really like the idea of of seeing cooperation between governments on this i don't know why
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we can't do it i mean you know the russians aren't going to be invading listen neither are the chinese so i don't see what all the fear is about i think would be a great thing i mean and. the russians have a very capable scientists and so to the chinese i mean i. i think this could be a really good thing to really promote cooperation but whether or not people want to do it that's you know that's something beyond me i'm not a politician. well ian thank you for joining us that was william anderson an associate professor at frostburg university. so as the economy saw first politicians are in full on raising sway and this is only the beginning just as president obama town to drum up some big support at thirty five thousand dollars a plate so something you can live the life of luxury how much would you. and supporting your favorite leader. president dot net so to the streets of the big out
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to find out. president obama held a dinner that individuals could attend for just over thirty five thousand dollars how much money would you spend to have dinner with a world leader this week let's talk about that how much would you spend your oh why i'm. doing. but i think. twenty bucks by ten bucks. hillary clinton or billions because i love her but obama now obama a year ago i paid a lot of money now actually. five thousand dollars on. my course thousand. says what i could afford is there anyone you would spend more than who will. train your left to spend money to actually get the
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truth of what happened years but again you won't get any truth some kind of. really just something. that you don't think politicians do that i don't think too much. will be thirty five thousand dollars. spent for a campaign funds for. you randi. definitely how much would you spend to have dinner with the pope it's been thirty five pows and for the as long as he was a child to eat would you think that would guarantee you a seat in heaven well yeah yeah but i think he's got a good call with god yes it's good politics and government has reached such levels of the us and it's partly due to all of the money that's involved with it that no i don't think i would spend money on that i don't think that's i'd rather somebody
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spend thirty five thousand dollars on education or some direct way of actually helping people instead of just getting in good with a lobbyist no matter how much money you'd spend to have dinner with the world leader let's just hope that at the end of it they'd pick up the check. well there's a for now for more on the stories we covered go to our com slash usa and check out our you tube page at youtube dot com slash our america i'm liz wall have a great night.
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