welcome back to the big picture i'm tom hartman coming up in this half hour republicans can't stop talking about the failed slander alone i'll be trying to turn into a phony scandal to cut off funding for more green energy projects that are so violent willing to sacrifice our nation's future security and prosperity just to win political points against president obama and the occupy wall street demonstrators have something on their side that the banks through one percent doesn't. i'll tell you what that is and tonight still each. day the house of representatives passed a short term spending bill putting an end of fears of a government shutdown at the end of the week and closing the book on

a bitter political battle over whether or not disaster relief aid should be offset by budget cuts elsewhere but it's a fight that could pick up again in the middle of november when funding for the government runs out again and republicans will once again demand more spending cuts and we already know what programs the republicans will target for these cuts here exploiting the failed government loan that went to solar companies slander that box so-called news has gushed over for weeks now republicans want to keep deep cuts or make the cuts to green energy loan program out of the deal we are better as a loan program that helps our nation keep up with the likes of china when it comes to investments in green energy it's a loan program that has a ninety nine percent success rate yet it's a long program that made one bad loan disallowed the republicans seem to be taking advantage of in fact republicans passed legislation to cut one hundred million dollars out of that long for. just last week so why are republicans cutting away

our nation's future prosperity by insisting on cars to green energy programs here are for his take now is republican strategist anthony anthony welcome back thank you for having me great to have you here with us a quarter of a quarter out of the g twenty china now only spends twice as much as we do on clean energy with one hundred three gigawatts of installed solar energy right now which is more than twice what we have in the united states. why do republicans want to cut federal loans were actually starting in loans or just loan backstops most of you know over twenty billion dollars in actual bank loans has been generated as a result of this backstop program why would they want to cut that how does that make sense well first these are guarantees of course so in one like this one percent you're talking about over half a billion dollars because bankrupt the taxpayers are on the hook for that right so i'm not sure that the republicans or anyone frankly are targeting exclusively these programs as opposed to america has an outcry for balancing the budget if we're

going to increase spending in any category it is very reasonable to have a debate that we offset that spending less with the republicans actually didn't target these programs one for one female was up and it was like you know ok how are we going to pay for the damage in joplin missouri and vermont the response from americana and john boehner was cut out the program that backstops green cars it was reduced by one hundred million which is an infinitesimal amount of the of the ninety nine percent you're talking about for it isn't that in the negative it's a big deal if we are to get him in that spending in fema we have to offset it somewhere so here was the proposal and also did i raising taxes that a whole host of ways but certainly one of them should be looking at reducing some of the program but why do you want to give part of a billion dollars a day to a country that publishes books that they send all over the world saying that jews eat literally use the blood of muslims in. and ceremonies and

and openly has advocated in the past the destruction of the united states and now the evidence is coming out increasingly had some clear role in funding nine eleven why do you want to continue that so i'm hearing you say drill drill drill drill i'm saying one just so why are those lights on what i've been in the american southwest would be under pulling whether it worked with the law is holding the line in america third largest created more power than all of the solar and all of the wind in the rest of the us why don't you call me stupid about this but in germany they put together a program where they were trying to replace three nuclear power plants three gigawatts a power that was their goal ten year program in ten years they ended up with an gigawatts of power you just said it didn't cost the government of germany and you just said they just back stopped we have been stupid about it yes we're talking about six hundred million of your one percent you said nine percent of them are success with six hundred million just fail so we're talking about fifty billion dollars in guarantees and that's being stupid fifty billion dollars obama dollars

in obama's already if we said they shut down the government well there are already billion dollars george bush spent in afghanistan oh a tremendous amount of it is almost a multiple of that but president obama was prepared to shut down the government in the last eighteen months over forty billion dollars every day and who was willing to shut it president obama is front and center calling for it the president the president is not in congress the shutdown of government happens in the house and senate and a veto power and the activities of the president are. just like clinton in this i don't recall any vetoes it is it is i don't have as a leader correct to say that a president doesn't have the ability to do right if he if he exercises a veto when what was the veto there was a threat all the way through there were there was no veto there was an opportunity veto they struck a deal. you know he was trying to work out that deal on the slander issue i think i taxes to get it with i think i find really fascinating about this is the so-called news has this clip of georgia. that they've been running where he says you know

we're going to try and get some good money out of the stimulus package and they say or they frame it as if he's trying to do it for slander of like me because he was one of the investors in that but it turns out actually when you look at the speech and you know for more than five minutes what he's saying is that he's trying to get the stimulus money from tulsa oklahoma which is where he was speaking and where it was for why would they do that well i can't speak for fox news but i can speak a bad name he's not a viral across the railing waters it happens all the time this is a gotcha media if that's what occurred on i was familiar with it is you that it's not uncommon in our press and it all needs attacked now there is a better policy question should we be backstopping needs loans at all that is a very real debate and questionable yeah and it seems particularly with you know ninety nine percent return rate on those that we've liberated so i wouldn't be making these loans for these business enterprises but for the taxpayer back stopping them so if the marketplace isn't willing to make a loan on its own i question whether we should be doing it china has as its double

it has spent i don't have the numbers in for me i thought i did china has spent as i recall eighty four billion dollars in the last in the last decade on solar energy we've spent something like thirty i mean there was the naspers at work so that nap is there is it the well whatever it may be ok let's set aside the numbers because as i said i don't have them from me i have in front of a whole hour ago i thought i brought about the fact of the matter is that they are spending about twice what we are and they do have i do know that they are at one hundred three gigawatts of solar power which is more than twice what we have this is because their their purse their following an intelligent policy i don't think. it's an intelligent policy when they have what eight and a half x. our population and they're spending five times as much wine into they're producing more car monoxide through coal plants then the us and they're what aggressive all of those were three and they're aggressively moving in the direction of course. i

mean they get at the well their country is being wiped out by radical growth whether similar to say in subsidizing it and there were obviously whole plants every oh yeah it was not i'm not going back utopia ok thank you and they will continue the conversation with green energy is the future in my opinion as long as republicans keep cutting off we're going to investment and we're ensuring the united states will fall behind the rest. just. the good the bad of the very very end i carted coyly. the good i am the herald columnist and one of my favorite authors. florida governor rick scott and his republican buddies are forcing welfare recipients to take drug tests and since the program started this last july only two and a half percent of for those welfare applicants who failed the drug test has his own

proposals will force those same lawmakers to take their own drug tests his column this week he wrote interestingly the governor's people make up mandate doesn't apply to the one bunch that whizzes away more tax dollars than anyone else the legislators who pass such huge swells and laws i say lined up all one hundred sixty lawmakers were patriotic whiz past at the capitol clinic if you think more than two point five percent my test positive let's find out i'll pay for it out of my own pocket seriously and last night he defended his position on them and said we see. this is class warfare this is taking on the folks who happen to be unemployed especially the ones with children and their testing it's such a lower rate than the general population the most recent federal drug survey shows a national drug use about eight point nine percent almost nine percent. of these people are living like monks compared to them my point was that of these legislators controls seventy billion dollars and they're the size of our state

budget they should be first in line for any drug testing immediately and it would be a public service i think it's a great idea but bad idea to parrot those poll numbers slipping after is incoherent debate performances texas governor rick perry sending his white out of the presidential campaign trail to promote his job creation record and we're all. already seen just how disconnected this very family is from middle class america take a look at what i need a fairy had seen as today. we have a team of people going to texas every day and if. i'm not in a chair here all the ballots will be here just eats everything on my stomach and that's what he four hundred forty people are hungry for minimum wage jobs real corn in the perrys the american dream is now working for seven bucks an hour in a dead end job sinking into debt and having to choose between putting food on the table or taking your medicine no wonder people are turning against rick perry and

fortunately none of the other republicans are much better and the very very ugly allen west a tea party congressman from florida is keeping up his one sided feud with democratic congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz back in july he called her bio unprofessional and despicable and said she didn't deserve to be respected as a leader but yesterday in a radio interview west i'll get on even though. i mention in any given issue to be diplomatically true if you continue with the end of the first thing option. if you . need to. stay above what this is if i believe this is the end of the first reality. but is anyone really surprised that allen was continues to act like a sexist seventh grader after all he is a favorite of the tea party and that's a very very good. coming up with the troy davis execution still fresh in our minds there's another tale of an innocent man who was put to death coming forward and yes

which republican governor has his fingerprints all over the story of cameron todd willingham after the for. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decision to break through that sort of if you may who can you. trust no one who is going to do with a global missionary city where we had a state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.

most of us are shocked a few weeks back we heard the conservative audience at one of the republican debates sure wildly from texas governor rick perry's execution record to the world . your state has executed two hundred thirty four death row inmates more than any other governor in modern times thank you thank you but what's even more shocking is at least one of rick perry's many executions might actually have been an innocent man. this is cameron todd willingham a man that rick perry executed in two thousand and four after he was convicted of burglary his three children by setting his house on fire back in one thousand nine hundred. hour ever since his execution subsequent investigations and new evidence

pointing to an inconvenient truth for governor perry and our nation entire nation and that is that cameron todd willingham was in all likelihood innocent joining me now are two filmmakers who recently finished a movie on the story of cameron todd willingham steve numbs and joe be able jr and they're here to tell us what really happened take a look at scenes stephen jones film titled incendiary that willingham case. in the womb a chanel suit now somewhere in the list didn't. even know me he needed he said he was rather funny body. this is a monster who killed his to. become a death penalty great musical why did he said well if there was a really innocent person executed today we're going to know if. people are going to do it that he says you. know

the role of movies or defend your principles and you don't need those things to say . it's all fabricated that's all. it's what i call which. science is here through the cure is yours are not true this is. cause you get your. thing has not gone away. stephen joe brilliant filmmaking i don't think it's a much shorter program william was charged after far investigators concluded that there was an accelerant used to point lighter fluid gasoline kerosene something around his. house. he. presented himself as a grieving father it was on caught on fire his three children died. what's the and if so that makes it even all the more horrible i mean can you imagine having

a house fire having your children die and then being put to death. what's the evidence for the accelerant what's the evidence against it and what's this whole crazy or crass crap glass crazed grass that. at the time of the original investigation because it came to the look of the fire the evidence that we're not really get to see from some contemporary. contemporary ways and collecting evidence and they were using training that they have learned from other far investigating this together through other than from science itself so actually it's really interesting i think that nine days after ruling it wasn't guided for the crime n.f.p.a. nine through one was published which is the field manual for fire investigation that's now used throughout the field of darkness to get action where they started to codified science work and work. really justified every.

effort to pay to use it up until that point they had been a lot of investigators that relied upon paul caloric methodology that just been passed down through the generations an artist i think they found actually no evidence of gasoline or kerosene or any kind of accelerant so the evidence that they used to conclude that there had been an accelerant was this crazed glass and you guys addressed this in your movie let me just show this clip to our shores. phrase glass means that the glasgow hot and then it got hit with water got cold rapid heaving a classroom not cause crazy. because she's crazy crazy it was caused by the fire she was put on demonstrations for the glass pane the cross cut the bricks to the bone she burned her turn no. i'm just a glass crack. never crazy. let me take on close to a little daughter on. the crazy. so before william was executed

this evidence that you're showing came before the pardon and parole board where it was called texas and governor perry and they basically blew it up why how in fact how did they get away with. the documents from the attorneys that consulted with the governor is still confidential the houston chronicle it's the governor's office to disclose those documents he actually disclosed the documents that governor bush used and his comments he petitions and so that's all public knowledge with the perry governor's office have disclosed so we don't know exactly the level of scrutiny that he has. so wish he had an opportunity to look at this over to not know and i believe that perry's office was the reason the only one who had a chance to look at it this is this is really remarkable how what has rick perry done to keep this case under wraps in texas there was a stand with the forensic science commission professionals to look at problems from

laboratories and for the cabinets and one of the first complaints brought to them was the willingham case and they commissioned the report and when their report came back said that all of the original evidence that's not about and two days before the words they killed him at the end this need to put to death an innocent man well they just were dealt with the scientific part. and so two days before that report was unique. presented publicly rick perry fired three members of the commission and then they canceled the meeting and pushed it off until that was in october it didn't happen that way in the game but next year. now this is a case that has not been a secret i mean you know i've been reading about cameron todd willingham for a year at least it's and and it didn't just burst into the national spotlight with rick perry deciding to run for president. any idea why in all the republican

debates and all of the media interviews and all of the showing up on every t.v. show you can find nobody has ever asked for perry i guess the closest was c.n.n. where he said i think you see it he said have you ever had trouble going to sleep thinking that you might have executed an innocent man implying the william case but but there's never been a or has there been any and i just missed it a specific question of him about would be just as an issue that doesn't get a lot of traction or the death penalty and forensics particularly it's kind of an arcane thing during the the republican primary process kay bailey hutchison actually good she was critical of a governor initially she called it a cover up medina the tea party candidate called him a tyrant for his behavior with the texas forensic science commission however you know later it's an infamous thing to be a. campaign conducted a focus group in which one member of booking scripts that he thought it was impressive it took balls to execute

a possibly innocent man and so i think from there the campaign pretty much concluded that it wasn't much of an issue to make for talks with the electorate so we'll see if it becomes an issue in this one i think that you know our phone deals mostly with the science in the process and then the way that it's sort of not addressed in the in the political dialogue the former supreme court justice john paul stevens and also louis pollack both of them after they retired gave interviews in which they said both of them did were deciding votes in maintaining. stevens. yes stevens in establishing that powell in maintaining the death penalty and both of them said now that they regret it in the thirty seconds we have left do you see this case as maybe being the thing that will turn america. who knows. maybe for a lot of people not the most pressing issue they may have an opinion of it but

believe it or worried about the economy and intrusion of the things i think it helps i think it's a step in that direction were people in the part of our position in the film was not to get into the country. in terms of the state's right to kill someone to put them in terms of competency so i think most people were there agree with you were the state can do that and they assume that it's him who are correct and what the focus is the serious that it's everybody's and what the gentlemen thank you very much for as you have saw from the pressure. on june sixteenth one hundred forty four our nation executed fourteen his name was george stinney he was accused of murdering two little girls sheriff at the time said the boy confessed but no confessions ever been found standees the lawyer said his client was forced to confess under threat of mob violence and the police told the seventh grader that if he didn't fess up he never see his parents again. trial lasted just three hours and there are white jury took just ten minutes to sentence him to die in the electric

chair stinney was five foot one and only ninety pounds soaking wet and the guards had to finagle the electric chair straps usually meant for adults around the child's tiny body and they still did it but the flip the switch anyway so many thousands of all it's about christina studies of the body the mask meant to cover the faces and the executed was too big for the young boy it's slid off as his body controls and everyone in the room saw tears streaming down stand his face as he asked for his last breath so there he was just fourteen years old it was probably innocent we might think were more humane nation sixty years later because we don't x. execute children anymore as we see in the case of cameron todd willingham and the case of terri davis just last week we still apparently execute the innocent let's not let it happen again. let's and state sanctioned murder today.

i have a message for the young people protesting in manhattan it's really simple time is on your side and the same thing can't be said about n.y.p.d. officers like tony belonga who are trying to silence you with pepper spray the same can't be said about the corporate media executives who are trying to ignore your message and games same can be said about the wall street bankers who i jacked our economy or the bought off politicians and let them get away with it all of these people belong to those in power today who will certainly not be in power tomorrow especially if you stay camped out nor manhattan and in chicago and los angeles and boston and seattle and phoenix and washington d.c. and work ever this movement goes next we're not just seen class warfare in this

nation today we're seeing the warfare of all reagan ask ideas against a reinvigoration of the ideals of the original young america of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness of a concern for the general welfare to quote the declaration of the constitution just one of the few party protests over the last couple of years and compare them with the movement that you folks have created on wall street and elsewhere around the nation on the one side you have billionaires on wall street who are desperate to stay in power and have their voice amplified by corporate media moguls like fox so-called news who have one primary agenda regardless of party at agenda to keep what franklin roosevelt called the economic royalists my generation called the establishment and your generation calls the one percenters in power. and on your side you have young people who came from all across america on their own dime to live on the streets sleep in sleeping bags get beaten by the police and stand up

for the other ninety nine percent of us you don't need a corporate role for and you don't need anyone because you're on the right side of history and cause and they're on the wrong side you're on the side that gandhi was on the side that martin luther king was on the side that will eventually write tomorrow's history books this isn't the first time there's been conflict in the streets of america it happened in the one nine hundred sixty s. too i was there i was beaten by cops i was gassed out on the streets of thousands of other kids we knew something was wrong with this country and that something needed to change and we fought the suits and power and we ended the vietnam war and we brought about the at least the beginning of civil rights and women's rights and in the one nine hundred sixty s. we cut poverty in half in this country but ultimately the old forces of royalty and power and money were relentless and kept pushing forward creating think tanks and media and buying politicians left and right putting their shills on radio stations

in every city in america and then creating their own cable t.v. network they even created alec the american legislative exchange council where corporations write laws so the bought off republican party lawmakers can introduce those laws in a state legislatures and so as jefferson predicted so run and go the cycles of time have rolled around and again we are confronted by the struggle between the powerful selfish few and the many who simply want freedom and a good life. reagan's kata revolution is alive and well and you are fighting against it today learn this lesson because you will win this struggle if you stay united and stay committed it's not going to be easy the powers that be will not just relinquish their stranglehold on power they have the money they have the power and as they often like to brag you don't have your guns but the one thing they

don't have that you do is a truly righteous cause as god told his peaceful revolutionaries when he confronted an entrenched colonial power with no moral authority and hell bent on ignoring the sands of time first they ignore you then they ridicule you then they attack you then you win. keep it up and you will win. as the big picture first night for more information on the stories we covered this stars love sites of thom hartmann dot com free speech dot org and archie also check out our to you to check the links it's all part of this entire shows are also available as a free video podcast on i tunes and we have a free to all have an i phone or i pad out at the app store is sort of the feedback of twitter a time underscore our facebook apologies for our blogs message boards and telephone comments why it's on our blog. and don't forget democracy begins with you when you

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