tv [untitled] September 29, 2011 10:00pm-10:30pm EDT
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i don't want really happening to the global economy with my. no holds barred look at the global financial headlines. but can they load a shell or get the real headlines with none of them or see me live in washington d.c. now it's time going take a look at new economic figures that show that jobless claims went down this week all reports are claiming that this is a clear sign that we're not headed towards a double dip but can we really say anything like that when europe's debt crisis is still unsolved then the war of words between the u.s. and pakistan is now escalated to a u.s. senator suggesting a military attack so are things worse than ever or is this just the same old political game between our two countries and we constantly document on this show the erosions of our civil liberties under the obama administration but one legal
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scholar is now arguing that he has these most disastrous president for civil liberties in u.s. history so is that true mike riggs going to join us to hash it out i'll have all that and more fear and i cling to those of happy hour but first take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to miss. i'll say we all woke to the news that another terrorist plot here on u.s. soil had been foiled by the it was an american citizen who planned on flying remote controlled planes armed with explosives into the capitol building and the pentagon . agency rez one for planned to use remote controlled model airplanes wanted to blow up the u.s. capitol building and the other guy raz one for deuce is in federal custody right now in charge an al qaeda style planned now these models which are about the tenth of the size of a real plane would have been filled with
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a plastic explosive undercover agents busting for dos as he waited for delivery of what he thought included grenades machine guns and explosives he took pictures of his targets how close was this guy to carrying this out. how close was he to carrying out the operation well considering that the explosive devices rather than full control of the f.b.i. i pray not very close you see the part of the mainstream media conveniently chose to pay very little attention to this entire case was that once again this was a plot to receive generous help from the f.b.i. generous because the suspect himself could never been able to afford the explosives or even the original trip to washington d.c. to spoke to scope out his target and the friends decided to fund this you see they were posing as al qaeda operatives and now listen could this man really be a bad guy somebody who deserves to spend time in jail yes very possibly but the question of the mainstream media always chooses to skip is what he have done it
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without the fed setting up and making it all possible that the increasing number of terrorist plots of the feds claim to foil which are in fact set up by the feds themselves that's something we've got committed on this show it's something that mother jones did a lengthy investigation on in which we also covered here and it just brings up the question as to whether our authorities are really stopping terrorists or helping to create more of them and that's a question that's worth being asked it doesn't leave you support terrorism they don't want everybody in this country to be safe but when you consider the fact the homeland security spending has galloon so four hundred seventy billion dollars over the last ten years then we have to start asking if those insane costs are worth it if the resources are being used properly or if some of this is you know. more p.r. because you know that every single one of these world incidents then transfers and it calls for more funding a lone wolf extremists are and should be a concern is it really take four hundred seventy billion dollars to get them just remember that doesn't include the cost of fuel wars or shadow wars or two hundred twenty billion in enhanced expenditures from state and the private sector these are
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real questions in our society today the financial effects the effects on civil liberties that are all a part of our post nine eleven society but the mainstream media will never bother asking they never bother putting human through together they take what the author already say the regurgitate it they hope to perpetuate the ever expanding security state and then they move on critical thinking that's they choose to make. now day thirteen of the occupy wall street protests and arrests have risen to eighty seven including a web editor for metro focus a p.b.s. program who found herself arrested himself excuse me arrested while doing the story about citizen journalists and it's now become clear the work around the occupy wall street movement is continuing to grow and we are one of the first to report on this protest taking place right in the heart of new york city but we're now seeing other networks pay attention to what's happening and that's why we see it has decided to
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tag on with of course the help of people like michael moore. but the reason people are down here is to reclaim their future not the past not even the present but the future has been stolen that's just how greedy these people are here on wall street . actors and filmmakers aren't the only ones that are drawing attention to this writers like rolling stones not to even point it out on keith olbermann program a lot of movement is still small momentum is continuing to build and there is a real tension potential to see a much larger crowd here in the future. the reality is that there's a lot of real anger out there and it's the movement is growing organically i think just because people know that there's something to protest now and they're coming out and all these people are distressed and there is enough real distress desperation out there that this could transform into a real world where there's enough really angered people to scare people and. now the movement is growing in dealing with two large labor unions expressing their
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support for occupy wall street it's business insider part of the teams there is a declared their solidarity and the new york transit workers union has also voted to support occupy wall street now the new york transit workers union consists of individuals who are for airlines transit and utility companies and it represents over two hundred thousand members and retirees and twenty two states for the protesters of occupy wall street and expressed their solidarity with the teamsters local eight fourteen who have been locked out by some of these after labor dispute with the unions officially signing on think that's fair to say the influence of occupy wall street is only continuing to grow and we should also note here the progress has been made all the members of law enforcement that are being accused of police brutality and of this video of women at the protest being corralled and pepper sprayed.
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i doing a press briefing yesterday the police commissioner announced an internal investigation into the officer who actually sprayed the protesters that inspector anthony belong at and why p.t. union leader roy richter defended the officer saying that means that you're billing his actions that day were motivated by his concern for the safety of officers under his command and the safety of the public however when you look into his record there's a fine passive all rights offenses and below he was working at the two thousand and four republican national convention so i think it's pretty safe to say that an internal invest. our police at the end like he should be doing in this matter but as protesters are being brutalized by police and the ranks of occupy wall street continue to swell across the country a video that was uploaded to youtube shows that some people on wall street aren't concerned at all they're actually just watching the protesters and sipping on champagne. with the.
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you know i can't think of a better way to show the growing gap between the elites and the other ninety nine percent of america but the calls and corporate greed are spreading and the movement while small in size for now is growing by the day so you know that we're going to continue to keep our eye on. new economic figures came out today showing that new claims for jobless benefits fell by thirty seven thousand to a seasonally adjusted three hundred ninety one thousand that is a five month low and that's much better than the four hundred twenty thousand that economists were expecting you can add to that news from the commerce department that u.s. gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of one point three percent last quarter compared to the previously reported one percent and everybody is treating this like it's really really good news numerous reports have suggested that this data means another recession isn't in the cards because so sure is the giant elephant in the room with the media's ignoring here it's called the european
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sovereign debt crisis although some hopes were new today on the tour and german parliament approved an expansion of the bailout fund most economists still say that it won't be enough joining me to discuss it is our team financial correspondent lauren lyster thanks so much for being here and i thank you again so we get into the bigger picture here. is there at least some good news here when it comes to g.d.p. growth i would say when g.d.p. growth and with the drop in the jobless claims that we saw last week it's being spun as good news because it's kind of the news cycle that handles everything on a day to day basis but when you put it in context no it's not great news alone i mean one point three percent g.d.p. growth when you look at the average of what the u.s. has averaged for g.d.p. growth since one thousand nine hundred seventy it's three point two eight percent or something so with far below even the average and when you look at jobless claims ok wud week they went down a little bit a little bit big what that does nothing to the bigger picture of the week jobs market i mean just yesterday ben bernanke the federal reserve chairman was saying this is a national crisis talking about the jobs saying that the number of long term unemployed
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is forty five percent of americans that is there to forty five percent of the unemployed which is unheard of essentially and if that isn't good enough for you as evidence i mean a new report from c.e.o.'s came out saying that they expect more layoffs in the next six months than they did for the prior quarter so no i wouldn't say this is good news especially when you compare this to other recoveries from other recessions. jobs and it's just so much worse than other recessions when you look at it that way so is this a symptom of the media coverage you know one of these things that happens when you only choose to focus on these weekly reports and sort of being you know this roller coaster i feel like that doesn't really take into account what else is going on around the world and especially if we talk about europe in the crisis that's going on there so today markets calm down a little bit some hopes are renewed because the german parliament decided to go ahead and go on with this bailout fund but they're not the only ones right how many other countries have to sign on well they're not the only ones and they're not out
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of the woods even if this bailout fund does go through because it's for a fraction of the amount that could be the amount that it is out for default in the eurozone i mean two trillion dollars is what could be defaulted upon in the euro zone and that the conservative estimate this bailout fund i think is seven hundred billion dollars germany has approved it and you're right there are other countries that have and there's a handful of them that still need to but germany is the big deal because it is the largest economy in europe it is really the only country with the cash to bail out these countries that are really strapped in sovereign debt crises so that is a hurdle but no it's by no means saying that the eurozone is it all out of the woods even if this bailout fund does go through and you point to the interesting issue of the political issue in the euro zone where you know you have all these different countries that have to agree on policy and there is no political unity in that regard everybody has to vote separately and of course i think you know there might be a little bit of resentment there too that there are some countries in the euro zone that are much poorer still even greece if you talk about you know slovakia tries to bring them in they don't want to vote for
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a bailout fund because they're saying you know we don't have as much money as greece actually does either anything elements by the way in terms of the talks of the rumors of perhaps the greek bric countries doing something here i haven't heard the latest with the brics countries what came out of the i.m.f. meeting i believe was that they they wanted to put more money through the i.m.f. but that they did not decide to do kind of a bailout a big of euro by i don't know the latest. is what exactly rescue to have planned but i know that portion of it was shot down but they were talking about getting more money through the i.m.f. for some kind of a bailout i want to look at a graph here that actually came out of a citi group report and you know i think this really puts it into perspective these days as to how intertwined our economy is with the european economy so this shows the correlation between u.s. quarterly g.d.p. growth and that of the largest european countries and so the correlation here has risen above seventy percent in the last ten years from less than twenty percent in the prior ten years and i think that that's
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a pretty incredible sign that means that in the future there's no such thing as america having a great year and europe not so much that we're always going to have to you know even on some terms that correlation does speak volumes as you mentioned and economists attribute it to the connections in trade any interdependency there as well as the impact of the financial crisis which obviously hit both of them very hard and interwoven financial systems which you kind of are touching upon absolutely a european debt crisis isn't just a european debt crisis because european banks are affected they are running low on capital or they are exposed to this debt but then so are you west bank's because they are exposed to the debt or their ex they insured the debt that is on these banks books so there is this contagion effect that i was alluding intertwines the united states and europe and absolutely i don't think there would be a situation where europe contracts in the u.s. thrives in fact you could argue the opposite if you talk to some people some economists believe that actually all of this europe crisis is taking attention away
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from the u.s. is a problem so if europe actually got their house in order that could be when you see to us dollar decline as people believe it should be. i think it's all over the place you know because we constantly talk about the fact that nobody here in the u.s. is really paying attention to exactly what's going on in europe and how it's going to recall down to them but i think it definitely goes both ways now i want to bring up to another announcement that bank of america made. today which this stuff just irks me is you know i really irks me that ok i may have america costumer and i just can't believe it i'm not here is angry as i have no doubt it is so dodd frank financial reform was passed and so this put a limit on the amount that the banks can charge when you when you swipe your debit card but of course what the banks have to do as in tell you we're going to experience such drastic losses here is that we're going to have to make the consumer start paying more so you can forget about free checking for each i think is something that slowly becoming a thing of the past and now bank of america has said that they're going to charge five dollars a month just for having
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a debit card i think this is ludicrous why all this and you know why it won't end because of the way our system is that companies one hundred percent if regulations come down the pipeline they can pass them on to customers which is what all these banks were crying about when dodd frank was going through and when it was passed and it is a by product but what are you going to do you know not clamp down on the banks already people say that god doesn't go far enough at all and yeah we paid a price as customers i don't understand why warren buffett can't paper our five dollar fee instead of just investing in bank of america put that money towards us warren well you know i actually agree twitter exchange today and this is one thing that i read tweeted because the president had sent out a tweet saying we really need your five dollars because the reason deadlines coming . for the presidential presidential candidate and some are just tweeted that i asked to be of a because you know they just got five dollars from from a lot of people out there but there was a small little battles i guess that you know we the consumers are going to keep losing here at home but it is really important to continue looking at the bigger
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picture even though these weekly jobless claims might look. i still say that you know the chances of a possible double dip recession are not just going to based on these claims laura thanks so much for joining us tonight thank you. still ahead it's happening again outside of a conditions inside a california prison some inmates are once again on a hunger strike because of the details when we come back and who has caucus and relations are deteriorating but we expect this game change but it's just that in just a month. let's not forget that we have an apartheid regime right now. i think either one well.
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we have the government says leave or keep him safe get ready because the longer freedom. you know sometimes you see the story and it seems so sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and here's some other part of it and realize that everything is ok and you don't think charge is a big picture. we just put a picture of the need when i was like nine years old on the show live through.
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the confession i am a girl get of friends that i love rap and hip hop music and. thank you yes. i'm very. well that she explained. he wants to go report to you on a hunger strike sweeping through prisons in california started in northern california in the pelican bay state prison or prisoners stop eating on a protest for better treatment they specifically requested better treatment for those and a security housing unit after prisoners are held in isolation for long periods of
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time and those confined as h.q. are often held in a six by ten foot cell for twenty two hours a day and only a few of those prisoners are allowed out into the yard for a very brief period every day and it's something that i spoke about back in july with a former inmate just listen to the way that he describes the conditions in solitary confinement that facility prisoners who are incarcerated in pelican bay in an ice or in college can be i should say. actually do not see the sun for decades. after three weeks and the health of many prisoners deteriorating the protests ended and a few of the demands were met they got beanies wall calendars and they were allowed to participate in correspondence courses yes after three weeks of starving the most of the prisoners had to show for it or be nice so the prisoners of pelican bay have now an ounce of they'll be resuming their strike and refusing to accept any food the group prison hunger strike solidarity released this statement and said despite claims to the contrary the california department of corrections and rehabilitation
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has yet to fully address what the prisoners feel are the most substantive changes outlined in their demands now last time the prisoners were on strike there are many reports that many of them were close to death so if someone is going to take this time around for prisoners to get better treatment let's hope that it isn't reached that point we're going to make sure to keep you updated on this story. and all the relationship between the u.s. and pakistan has been a tumultuous one to say the least and since the u.s. conducted a raid to kill osama bin laden without informing the pakistanis earlier this year it's only gotten worse but this month this month just might take the cake for verbal abuse coming from both sides on september twenty second outgoing joint chiefs of staff chairman admiral mike mullen testified that the u.s. government believes that the pakistan based economy network was responsible for the recent attack on the u.s. embassy in kabul and he also said that the i.s.i. not only helped the hakani network in this attack but that the latter is a verbal arm of the pakistani intelligence services this is resulted in pakistani
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officials saying admiral mullen it's resulted in pakistani talk shows discussing how to react if the united states were to attack but why really rethink of us what in fact is that just more anti-american media bias well maybe it's because the u.s. lawmakers have begun beating their chests and suggested doing just that. the of an intelligence agencies supporting terrorism as a national strategy needs to come to an end if the stabilizes afghanistan they're killing american soldiers if they continue to embrace terrorism as part of their national strategy we're going to have to put all options on the table including defending our troops. so are the u.s. and pakistan really on the brink of some kind of war or is this how the game between the two will always be played when we discuss this is robert farley assistant professor at the university of kentucky patterson school blogger lawyers and money robert thanks so much for joining us tonight now viewer i have discussed
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the u.s. pakistan relationship many many times and i feel like every time there is some kind of war of words going on every time people are asking is this the worst it's ever been because language seems to be more heated or seems to be escalated now you have senator lindsey graham talking about perhaps you know americans defending themselves military action against pakistan that's the worst it's ever been. it's pretty bad i think that senator graham has been pretty irresponsible and he's not going anywhere you this irresponsible in terms of foreign affairs. or republican but if you're to say. this combined with the statements from memo and and of course be of the how can you not work on which the i.s.i. is clearly related to you yes i mean it's not good and there's a lot. unfortunately on the other side too especially coming out of the pakistani
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media so i would say it's certainly it's getting pretty bad and it seems to be a sense that even though the relationship remains very critical of a lot of models especially in terms of you know arms shipments and so forth from the united states pakistan a lot of people in the united states who are really getting twitchy about this relationship i know already didn't. think that the relationship was too close so i would say yes we're not going to go place right now pakistan the same time you know i mean we're not i don't believe for one single second that we're actually going to go to war with pakistan especially this is a country that has nuclear weapons you know as you mentioned of course this is a country to whom we give a lot of aid and so i'm wondering if people like lindsey graham say these things because they know that they can get away with it and you know if anything and i just went on a little bit of call political capital here at home to put on that stuff. there's absolutely the possibility of direct military action trained u.s.
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government pakistani government is extremely unlikely of course we know the u.s. government is already. in pakistan which runs in occasionally with special forces but we're never going to see a generated open hostility between the u.s. and pakistan i do suspect that with senator graham saying something along these lines that. pakistan becoming a larger part of the presidential campaign especially on the republican side where we may see some of the republican candidates making sort of what you suggest is just something statements about. that. will be replayed in the media president obama transferred some passion to more responsible all of the. candidates on the republican slate will have to answer in some fashion and so i think we're going to see more rhetoric and that rhetoric may actually have an effect on our saying i have all since you brought it up and this
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is something that i've discussed here on this program you talk about chest thumping and what our political candidates might say you know those that are running for president the g.o.p. side you feel like any of these people aside from ron paul who i think actually gets it do you think they have any idea what they're talking about when it comes to foreign policy when you hear the answers they give on afghanistan if they like pakistan hasn't even been mentioned yet. it's no good we we should remember the. presidential candidates don't know about a lot about foreign policy george w. bush didn't know much about what policy bill clinton didn't know much more policy when george h.w. bush was the last real expert on foreign policy to be elected president. you know jon huntsman who has about the same chance of winning the nomination as ron paul obviously knows more about war policy but he's not going to nomination. and so i think it's absolutely right that you know we have to look at the guys here is that these people. who are telling them what to say.
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when residency but again so i don't know that much i don't like. yeah unfortunately i am with you there but i maybe it's normal but it just makes me makes me a little bit nervous makes me a little uncomfortable inside now you mentioned earlier of course one of the statements or at least the statement that anonymous officials have been trying to walk back they came from matter all in was that there is a very close relationship between the i.s.i. and between the carney network something that everybody kind of already knows so then what do you make of this push your rumors at least at the state department to get the kind that work on a list of foreign terrorist organizations this is another one of those examples where it's somebody who at one point was a friend now you want to turn into a foe. during. the years of the soviet war trying to some extent and they're clearly i mean i do think that the terrorist list in this case and in what other cases is simply used its diplomatic.
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and in this case it may be useful to use it and it's as if. you know i think that it's probably a little bit too much to say that the book on the network is really an arm of the i.s.i. i think. probably tries to keep the country network on a leash but my suspicion is that they would never try to yank that we they would find it difficult it's a lot more independent than they really expect and i think they're probably a little bit of afraid of these as well now if we look at the situation in afghanistan it's not going well right now in fact the u.n. just put out a report yesterday that said the violence across afghanistan has increased by thirty nine percent since this time last year and that's something that by the way you know i saw troops and nato are trying to. not to except they say they have their own figures and they don't believe it but how much you know some of this grandstanding the tough talk is really a bit of desperation here on the side of the u.s. because let's face it at some point we do have troop withdrawals coming up and it's
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becoming more and more clear that pakistan has a lot of power here. that's a big part of it i think there's a lot of concern that no matter what we do accomplish if we can accomplish anything in afghanistan that can be undone by pakistan in fairly short order because backgrounds are right there pakistan has a tremendous amount of influence of pakistan in a way that we really don't but conversely i think that that's one reason why you're not going to see a complete breakdown in u.s. actually relations. the u.s. is going to threaten rhetorically and otherwise pakistan but it really needs pakistan to stay on board at least a little bit with the u.s. project in afghanistan even as it is right and so that's why i think we're going to see something right we have sixteen transfers and upgrades and sort of cancel already canceled and so forth we're going to see a lot of bluster but maybe not a complete rupture so frenemies will have to stay at this point as enforcing it is
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it is one of those relationships or both sides are defined on the other robin thanks so much for joining us tonight thank you for having me. i am just ahead we have our own cell and a new times asked if president obama has killed. just want. to. do the work to bring justice or. i have the right to know what my government's true if you want to know what i think taxes. to rise above as they care. of american exceptionalism. see the story of the six.
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