well go back to the big picture i'm tom hartman coming up in this half hour republicans can't stop talking about the failed so landrieu alone i'll be trying to turn into a phony scandal to cut off funding for your green energy projects that are so dire that willing to sacrifice our nation's future security and prosperity just to win political points against president obama and the occupy wall street demonstrators have something on their side that the banks do one percent doesn't tell i'll tell you what that is and tonight still each. day the house of representatives passed a short term spending bill putting an end of fears of a government shutdown at the end of the week and closing the book on

a bitter political battle over whether or not disaster relief aid should be offset by budget cuts elsewhere but it's a fight that could pick up again in the middle of november when funding for the government runs out again and republicans will once again demand more spending cuts and we already know what programs the republicans will target for these cuts through exploiting the failed government loan that went to solar companies slander that ox so-called news has gushed over for weeks now republicans want to keep deep cuts or make the still green energy loan program out of the deal we are better so one program that helps our nation keep up with the likes of china comes to investments in green energy it's a loan program that has a ninety nine percent success rate yet it's a long program an a one bad loan this alondra the republicans seem to be taking advantage of in fact republicans passed legislation to cut one hundred million dollars of that loan program just last week. so why are republicans cutting away

our nation's future prosperity by insisting on cars the green energy programs here offer his take now is republican strategist anthony anthony welcome back thank you for having me great to have you here with us a quarter of a quarter of the g twenty china not only spends trice as much as we do on clean energy with one hundred three gigawatts of installed solar energy right now which is more than twice what we have in the united states. why do republicans want to cut federal loans or actually these aren't even loans or just loan backstops most of you know over twenty billion dollars in actual bank loans has been generated as a result of this backstop program why would they want to cut that how does it make sense well first these are guarantees of course so in one like this one percent you're talking about over half a billion dollars is bankrupt the taxpayers are on the hook for that right so i'm not sure that the republicans or anyone frankly are targeting exclusively these programs as opposed to america has an outcry for balancing the budget if we're

going to increase spending in any category it is very reasonable to have a debate that we offset that spending the last week the republicans actually did target these programs one for one female was up and it was like you know ok how are we going to pay for the damage in joplin missouri and vermont the response from from eric cantor and john boehner was cut out the program but backstops green cars it was reduced by one hundred million which is an infinitesimal amount of the of the ninety nine percent you're talking about the isn't that is that i get it it's a big deal if we are to get interest in this spending in fema we have to offset it somewhere so here was the proposal and also did i raising taxes offset a whole host of ways but certainly one of them should be looking at reducing some of the program but but why do you want to give part of a billion dollars a day to a country that publishes books that they send all over the world saying that jews eat literally use the blood of muslims in. sarah. he's and

and openly has advocated in the past the destruction of the united states and now the evidence is coming out increasingly had some clear role in funding nine eleven why do you want to continue that so i'm hearing you say drill drill drill drill i'm saying i won the so why are those lights on like i've been in the american southwest it would be wonderful if they were if it weren't the law is clear mine in america third largest created more power than all of the solar and all of the wind in the rest of the us right on its own stupid about this but in germany they put together a program where they were trying to replace three nuclear power plants three gigawatts a power that was their goal ten year program in ten years they ended up with an gigawatts you just said it didn't cost the government of germany and you just said it is backstopped we have been stupid about it yes we're talking about six hundred million of your one percent you said nine percent of them are success and six hundred million just failed so we're talking now about the billion dollars in guarantees and that's being stupid fifty billion dollars dollars in obama's already

if we said they shut down the government over two hundred billion dollars to george bush then in afghanistan oh a tremendous amount of it is a. multiple of that but president obama was prepared to shut down the government in the last eighteen months over forty billion dollars every day who was willing to show that president obama is front and center calling for the president the president is not in the shut out of government happens in the house and senate and a veto power and the activities of the president are. just like clinton if i don't see any vetoes it is because i don't care as a leader her act to say that a president doesn't have the ability to hear right if he if he exercises a veto when when was the veto there was a threat all the way through help that when there was no veto there was an opportunity veto they struck a deal. he was trying to work out that deal on the slander issue i think i taxes to get the five thing i find really fascinating about this is the so-called news has this clip of george kaiser that they did. where he says you know we're going to try

and get some good money out of the stimulus package and they say or they frame it as if he's trying to do it for slander oil because he was one of the investors in that but it turns out actually when you look at the speech and you know for more than five minutes what he's saying is that he's trying to get the stimulus money for paulson oklahoma which is where he was speaking of where it was for why would they do that well i can't speak for fox news but i can speak a better name he's not inquire a lot crossroads really why is this happens all the time and this is a gotcha media if that is what occurred on i was familiar with it is you that it's not uncommon in our press and it all needs attacked now there's a better policy question should we be back stopping these loans at all and that is a very real debate and questionable yeah and it seems particularly with you know ninety nine percent return rate on the use of the with that are going to the president be making these loans for these business enterprises but for the taxpayer back stopping them so if the marketplace is unwilling to make a loan on its own i question whether we should be doing it china has has is double

has spent i don't have the numbers in for me i thought i did china has spent as i recall eighty four billion dollars in the last in the last decade in solar energy we've spent something like thirty i mean there was that nasser didn't work for that now because if there isn't it well whatever it may be ok let's set aside the numbers because as a son who don't have them from me i have in front of all half hour ago i thought i brought about but the fact of the matter is that they're spending about twice what we are and they do have i do know that there are one hundred three gigawatts of solar power which is more than twice what we have this is because they're their purse they're following an intelligent policy i don't think. it's an intelligent policy when they have what eight and a half x. our population and they're spending five times as much one into their producing more car monoxide through coal plants then the us and they're what aggressive all of those were three and they're aggressively moving in the direction of alternatives to the. they get it that well their country is being wiped out by

radical well whether it's in their state and subsidizing it and there were honestly my whole clients everybody oh yeah well i'm not i'm not a makatea ok thank you and they will continue the conversation green energy is the future in my opinion as long as republicans keep cutting off green investments that we're insuring the united states with behind the rest. just. the good the bad of the very very end of kartik only glee the good i am the herald columnist and one of my favorite authors carl hiaasen florida governor rick scott and his republican buddies are forcing welfare recipients to take drug tests and since the program started this last july only two and a half percent of for those welfare applicants who failed the drug test is now has his own proposal forced those same lawmakers to take their own drug tests his

column this week he wrote interestingly the governor's people makeup mandate doesn't apply to the one bunch that whizzes away more tax dollars than anyone else the legislators who pass such useless laws i say lined up all one hundred sixty lawmakers for a patriotic whiz past at the capitol clinic if you think more than two point five percent i test positive let's find out i'll pay for it out of my own pocket seriously and last night he defended his position on nemesis b.c. . this is class warfare this is taking on the folks who happen to be unemployed especially the ones with children and their testing it's such a lower rate than center of population the most recent federal drug survey shows that national drug use about eight point nine percent almost nine percent. of these people are living like months compared to them my point was that the these legislators control seventy billion dollars and that size of our state budget they

should be first in line for any drug testing immediately and it would be a public service i think it's a great idea a bad idea to ferret these poll numbers slipping after his incoherent debate performances texas governor rick perry is sending his wife out on the presidential campaign trail to promote his job creation record and we're already seen just how disconnected the perry family is from across america take a look at what i do to perry had to see this. we are a team of people in texas here and if i. come on i'm not going to tell you there are a jobs bill your job even if there are a memo my stomach there's one hundred. people who are hungry for minimum wage jobs really heard of the perrys the american dream is now working for seven bucks an hour to a dead end job sinking into debt having to choose between putting food on the table or taking your medicine no wonder people which are and against rick perry

unfortunately none of the other republicans are much better and the very very ugly allen west the tea party congressman from florida is keeping up his one sided feud with democratic congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz back in july he called her bio unprofessional and despicable and said she didn't deserve to be respected as a leader or yesterday in a radio interview west i'll get on even. no mention of any human issue to be undiplomatic newsgroup you keep going. first thing pops and. it will. be a book is a story about what i said if i believe this is the end of the first you know. what does anyone really surprised that ellen was continues to act like a sexist separator after all he is a favorite of the tea party and that's a very very a. coming up with the troy davis execution still fresh in our minds there's another tale of an innocent man who was put to death coming forward and yes which

republican governor has his fingerprints all over the story of cameron todd willingham after the birth. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions it's time to break through a bit through who can you trust no one who is in view with the noble mission to read see where are we heading state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.

most of us are shocked a few weeks back we heard the conservative audience at one of the republican debates cheer wildly for texas governor rick perry's execution record take a look. your state has executed two hundred thirty four death row inmates more than any other governor in modern times have you with thank you but what's even more shocking is at least one of rick perry's many executions might actually have been an innocent man. this is cameron todd willingham the man that rick perry executed two thousand and four after he was convicted of murdering his three children by setting his house on fire back in ninety nine he not however since his execution

subsequent investigations of new evidence point to an inconvenient truth for governor perry and our nation entire nation and that is that cameron todd willingham was in all likelihood innocent joining me now are two filmmakers who recently finished a movie on the story of cameron todd willingham steve numbs and joe billy jr they're going to tell us what really happened take a look at scenes from stephen jones film titled incendiary willingham case. the road to national signal somewhere. it's no media the city was smothered by need money. is a monster who killed his to. become a death penalty to. fight it he said well if there was a really innocent person executed the name of the show if. people are going to do want to leave that says you. know

it will be. different you principles and you don't need those things to say. in the city really it's hard for average to you that's all. it's what i call witchcraft scientists here have rejected your sources are god. but god gets you through our. thing has not gone away by. stephen joe brilliant filmmaking i don't think it's a much more. well it was charged after fire investigators concluded that there was an accelerant used in pouring lighter fluid gasoline kerosene something around his . house. he. presented himself as a grieving father who was home caught on fire and street children died. what's the and if so that makes it even all the more horrible can you imagine having

a house fire having your children die and then being put in death with what's the evidence for the accelerant what's the evidence against it and what's this whole crazy or crass crack glass crazed grass thing. at the time of the original investigation because he came to the look of the fire the evidence. but we're not really up to speed from some contemporary. contemporary words and collecting evidence and they were using training that they have learned from other far investigator investigators rather than from science. so actually it's really interesting i think the nine days that the ruling i was invited for the crime n.f.p.a. nine to one was published which is the field manual for participation that's now used throughout the field of our investigation where they started to codified science work and work. really justified every. effort to

just get up until that point there had been a lot of and scares and relied upon folkloric methodology that just been passed down through the generations apart but still i think they found actually no evidence of gasoline or kerosene or any kind of accelerant so the evidence that they used to conclude that there had been an accelerant was this crazed glass and you guys addressed this in your movie let me just show this clip to our shores. phrase glass means that the glass gone hot and then it got hit with water and got cold rapid heating in the classroom not caused crazy rapid cooling because she's crazy crazy it was caused by the fire. we put on demonstrations put a glass fame across a couple of bricks for the bunch and burned it and turned it on. just replace crap . never creations. in which a cotton climbs to a little water on. a crazy. so before willingham was executed

this evidence that you're showing came before the pardon and parole board or whatever it's called texas and governor perry and they basically blew it off why how in fact how did they get away with. the documents from the attorneys that consulted with the governor still confidential houston chronicle it's the governor's office to disclose those documents he actually disclosed the documents that governor bush used and his comments he petitions and so that's all public knowledge of the perry governor's office so i haven't disclosed it so we don't know exactly the level of scrutiny that he had so we had an opportunity to look this over to not know it but i believe that perry's office was raised to be only one who had a chance to look at it and this is this is really remarkable how what has rick perry done to keep this case under wraps in texas there was a stand with the forensic science commission professionals to look at problems of

labor for years and for insect evidence and one of the first complaints brought to them was the war and kids and they commissioned a report and when their report came back it said that all the roads are open that's that's not. and two days before the roads they killed in the end yes they did put to death an innocent man well they just dealt with the scientific part of it. and so the days before they were purposely. presented publicly rick perry fired three members of the commission and then they canceled the meeting and pushed it off until there was an october so it didn't happen probably if you're in the next year . now this is a case that has not been a secret i mean you know i've been reading about cameron todd willingham for a year at least it's and and it didn't just burst into the national spotlight with rick perry deciding to run for president. any idea why in all the republican debates and all of the media interviews and all the showing up on every t.v.

show you can find nobody has ever asked rick perry i guess the closest was c.n.n. where he said it was c.n.n. he said have you ever had trouble going to sleep thinking that you might have executed an innocent man implying that william case but but there's never been or has there been any and i just missed that explicit question in a film about this will be just it's an issue that doesn't get a lot of traction for the death penalty and forensics particularly it's kind of an arcane thing during the the republican primary process kay bailey hutchison actually did she was critical of a good governor initially she called it a cover up the dean of the tea party candidate called him a tyrant for his behavior with the texas forensic science commission however you know later it's an infamous thing they had some campaign conducted a focus group in which one member of focus groups said that he thought it was impressive it took balls to execute a possibly innocent man and so i think from there the campaign pretty much

concluded that it wasn't much of an issue to make for a texas electorate so we'll see if it becomes an issue in this one i think the you know our film deals mostly with the science in the process and then the way that it's sort of not addressed in the in the political dialogue the former supreme court justice john paul stevens and also lewis powell both of them after they retired gave interviews in which they said both of them did were deciding votes in maintaining. stevens and yet stevens in establishing that powell in maintaining it definitely and both of them said now that they regret it in the thirty seconds we have left here do you see this case as maybe being the thing that will turn america. who knows it's a maybe for a lot of people not the most pressing issue they may have an opinion of a good behavior but the economy and education other things good i think it helps i

think it's a step in that direction we're people and that part of our position in the film was not to get into that kind of group but in terms of the state's right the troops them to put that in terms of competence so i think most people were there they were with the state can do that or they assume that it's him correct and what the film says this is serious that it's not everybody's and what a gentlemen thank you very much as you have some thoughts. on june sixteenth one hundred forty four our nation executed fourteen his name was george stinney and he was accused of murdering two of the girls sheriff at the time so the boy confessed but no confession is ever been found skinny's lawyers that his client was forced to confess under threat of mob violence and the police told the seventh grader that if he didn't fess up they'd never see his parents again stoney's trial lasted just three hours and then all white jury took just ten minutes to sentence him to die in the electric chair skinny was five foot one and only ninety pounds soaking wet and

the guards had to finagle the electric chair strachey's limit for adults around the child's tiny body and they still did it but they flipped the switch anyway so many thousands of also electricity in the studies of the body of masked men to cover the faces of the executed was too big for the young boy slid off as product controls and everyone in the room saw tears streaming down stand his face as he gasped for his last breaths of air he was just fourteen years old it was probably innocent we might think we're more humane nation sixty years later because we don't x. execute children anymore as we see in the case of cameron todd willingham and the case of troy davis just last week we still apparently execute the innocence let's not let it happen again. let's and state sanctioned murder today.

i have a message for the young people protesting in manhattan it's really simple time is on your side and the same thing can't be said about n.y.p.d. officers like tony belonga who are trying to silence you with pepper spray the same can't be said about the corporate media executives who are trying to ignore your message and same can be said about the wall street bankers and i jacked our economy and the ball off politicians and let them get away with it all of these people belong to those in power today but who will certainly not be in power tomorrow especially if you stay camped out in lower manhattan and in chicago and los angeles and boston and seattle and phoenix and washington d.c. and we're ever this movement goes next we're not just seen class warfare in this

nation today we're seeing the warfare of all the reagan esque ideas against a reinvigoration of the ideals of the original young america of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness of a concern for the general welfare of the court the declaration of the constitution just one of the tea party protests over the last couple of years and compare them with the movement that you folks have created of wall street and elsewhere around the nation on the one side you have billionaires on wall street who are desperate to stay in power and have their voices amplified by corporate media moguls like fox so-called news who have one primary agenda regardless of party agenda to keep it franklin roosevelt called the economic royalists my generation called the establishment and your generation calls the one percenters in power. and on your side you have young people who came from all across america on their own dime to live on the streets sleep in sleeping bags get beaten by the police and stand up

for the other ninety nine percent of those you don't need a corporate blow for and you don't need anyone because you're on the right side of history and cause and they're on the wrong side you're on the side that gandhi was on the side with martin luther king was on the side that will eventually write tomorrow's history books this isn't the first time there's been conflict in the streets of america it happened in the one nine hundred sixty s. too i was there i was beaten by cops i was gassed out on the streets of thousands of other kids i knew something was wrong with this country and that something needed to change and we fought the suits and we ended the vietnam war and we brought about the at least the beginning of civil rights and women's rights and the one nine hundred sixty s. we cut poverty in half in this country but all of them only the old forces of royalty and power and money were relentless and kept pushing forward creating think tanks and media and buying politicians left and right putting their shills on radio

stations in every city in america and then creating their own cable t.v. network they even created alec the american really a legislative exchange council or corporations write laws so the bought off republican lawmakers can introduce those laws in a state legislatures and so as jefferson predicted so long ago the cycles of time have rolled around and again we are confronted by the struggle between the powerful selfish few and the many who simply want freedom and a group of life. reagan's carter revolution is alive and well and you are fighting against it today and learn this lesson because you will win this struggle if you stay united and stay committed it's not going to be easy the powers that be will not just relinquish their stranglehold on power they have the money they have the power and as they often like to brag even having guns but the one thing they don't

have that you do is a truly righteous cause as god told his peaceful revolutionaries when he confronted an entrenched colonial power with no moral authority and hell bent on ignoring the sands of time first they ignore you then they ridicule you the new attack you then you win. keep it up and you will win. as the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered this is ours a web sites of thom hartmann dot com free speech dot org and archie dot com also check out our to you to check out for a link to tom hartman dot com this entire show is also available as a free video podcast on i tunes and we have a free time when i phone or i pad app at the app store is sort of speed back of twitter of tom underscore our facebook and tom others will have them on our blogs message boards and soulful comment line at thom hartmann dot com and don't forget him ocracy begins with you when you show up when you participate get out there get

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