tv [untitled] October 4, 2011 11:01pm-11:31pm EDT
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ok to be alone a show at the real headlines with none of the mercy if you live in washington d.c. now it's not going to speak to david dayen about occupy wall street and take back the american dream conference are they trying to co-opt the occupy movement that after three years of working on it the u.s. and seven other countries signed the anti-counterfeiting trade agreement this weekend in japan so what exactly does that put into law and why is it all been done in such secrecy or can speak to seen as declan mccullagh people are going crazy right now rick perry suggesting sending u.s.
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troops to mexico to help fight the drug war or even take a look at what everyone is missing like the fact that we've done that before and it still isn't working or you have all that and more fit and i including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. last friday and heard the reports that a u.s. drone strike had killed u.s. born muslim cleric anwar locky and last friday the mainstream media different really seem all too bothered by the fact that their own government had just assassinated the u.s. citizen without any due process no instead they were just toeing the official line repeating verbatim everything that was fed to them by the white house like saying that al locky had a major operational role in foiled attacks against the u.s. and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in general despite the lack of any evidence for that because they refused to show it to us but seriously guys they took this story a really really seriously after all the president had just said that it dealt
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a major blow to al qaeda. one of all kind as top recruiters who once preached at a mosque in virginia and california he was called the internet bin ladin because of his skills of recruiting terrorists online just two of the world's most wanted terrorists our dad. who was killed by a missile from a u.s. drone today he was considered one of the biggest terrorist threats to u.s. homeland security and more level locky the head of al qaeda in yemen killed in a u.s. drone strike two predator drones equipped with hellfire missiles took out. now what's interesting is that it's only been five days since that happened the other mainstream media has somehow forgotten all about it even if somebody out there did dare to go on c.n.n. for five minutes last week question the legitimacy of the president playing judge jury and executioner all in one barely already stopped bothering them but anyway let's go back over the claims that this is dealt
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a massive blow to al qaeda that al locky played a major operational role numerous people who actually know what they're talking about have disputed that claim including jeremy scahill right here on the show last week if anything a lot of he was more of a u. two preacher it was his ability to speak perfect english but his sermons online that made him a leading name in this u.s. war on terror but even if you take out the propagandist you think that's going to deal with a major blow you know i'm a stop talking don't take it from me take it from the military that's right according to a new study released by the u.s. military academies combating terrorism center they say that a lot of these death is unlikely to impact on the arabian peninsula as operations in yemen or its desire to attack the interests of the united states they also say that instead the u.s. should focus on taking out the actual operational leaders people like to see are all well. so basically the u.s. military just proves everything that the white house fed the media on friday wrong not the others haven't already done this and they ignored it but you think that maybe when they hear another official voice doing it that they'll listen. yeah
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right that did not even make it to the mainstream media today not a single peep so in this case i don't know if they're embarrassed if they're just that lazy but the obvious truth is what they've chosen to miss. well it's no secret the left has been looking for its own version of the tea party its own populist movement to reenergize the voters so how convenient for the organizers of the take back the american dream conference the occupy wall street is taking off in fact van jones when giving his keynote address spoke about occupy wall street and the fact the marines were going down to wall street to protect them to get the crowd fired up. if you protect. me. that might.
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mean that i did a bad. thing that i. know you know if. you do that. but do occupy wall street taking back america have anything in common or is the professional left just trying to co-opt it really is a grassroots movement are discussed as a thing as david dam blogger at firedoglake dot com david thanks so much for joining us today thanks for having me now for starters you've been at this conference covering and tell us what it's like is it a really exciting place has there well it's interesting i mean you know last year i think there was this sort of overwhelming sense of dread that we're about to get our clocks cleaned in the two thousand and ten elections them and there wasn't a whole lot to be excited about and i do think that this grassroots uprising which is sort of in the ether for a little while now has reenergized the progressive side
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a little bit and given us something to maybe hope about again but how would you compare you know of course a lot of people are describing the wall street protesters as just dirty hippies a lot of young people we've spoken to many people we have reporters there on the ground that are actually you know could show you by video that it's actually quite a diverse group where but how would you separate that because you know at the same time they want to be independent they think that there's corruption and there's greed that goes from wall street to both parties in washington d.c. and they don't want to become a part of the you know the democratic way right i mean i think you have to separate the attendees of a conference like this from the organizers of it and i think at the attendee level i was at a panel the other day on bank accountability. and the moderator asked how many people are willing and ready to get arrested and every single person raise their hand i mean so i think that there's a sense that this movement and this ability to to you know really an expression of
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anger to say that the economy isn't working for most of us anymore and it's working for the benefit of an elite few is something that strongly resonates i think with the attendees of something like that take back the american dream conference so what do you make then of these if you want to call them allegations or the people i guess hypothesizing thinking about the future just what might happen saying that people behind these take back take back the american take back america by this conference they just want to co-opt the occupy wall street movement or for example you have move on dot org that's now getting involved with the occupy wall street movement but this is a lot of big funding involved yeah i mean i i think there's a bit of a trepidation and i think even among the organizers of some trepidation we don't want to turn off. this prairie fire that started at the same time you know there have been bank accountability groups who have been doing direct action things like
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the new bottom line and refund california a lot of these state based movements and they've they were all well represented at this conference and so you know i don't think that the common criticism of the occupy wall street that they have to have an agenda and a template position paper i think that's a bit of a silly argument at the same time you can easily come up with this solutions or at least some possible solutions to things that they are you know they have a grievance about like what i mean how are we going to fix the you know incredibly increasing constantly increasing income gap here in america how are you actually going to convince the government to go after the wall street bankers and prosecute them right i mean i think there are some simple bumper stickers it's investigate the banks you know implement a financial transaction tax so speculate. actually you know it's money is taken from it and given to value the broad segment of america you know there are some simple things and a conference like this can generate some of those ideas and whether or not the
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people that are camped out at zuccotti park want to take them or not that's really up to them. but i do think that there's an opportunity for some synergy there and it doesn't necessarily have to be this this adversarial your relationship where both sides are looking at each other like well we don't want to take your your deal water or whatever it is but i'm just wondering do you think that people should work within the political process that they should always focus on legislation as being what can actually and you know bring about some change or do you have to start removing yourself from it if it is like i said what you know what i believe and what i think so many of these occupy wall street protesters believe that it's both parties that it's the entire government it's the entire system here that's corrupt so why would i just pay into it why do i vote all the time well it's definitely. an electoral base legislative base strategy has not worked in a large part i mean this is this is a movement that says that part of the problem is we have a government that is bought and paid for by by wall street banks or corporate
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interests so no that is my answer but but at the same time i mean i think something this take back the american dream conference is talking about is that they understand the need to generate some street to put pressure because the only way that you're going to sort of counteract the massive amounts of corporate money and influence in our government is through holding their feet to the fire and doing it in a very direct way and i think that that's starting to become something that is broadly shared opinion. on the progressive side of the spectrum and i do definitely think that an independent movement that is not tied to a political party is what. you know majority opinion of people at that conference and throughout the progressive community i mean i think that it's a wonderful thing because i think that so many of the american people really have so much more in common with each other than we do differently you know but of
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course it's this bipartisan partisan blah blah blah the bickering that we hear all the time from the politicians that divides them is the pundits that we hear on the media all the time that divides them so what do we do to keep this independent movement growing you know and from having it become like the next tea party that just becomes a wing of the republican party i obviously don't have every answer to that but at the same time you know one of the even though i. wasn't at one of the best things that has come out of this and it's come out of it online and one of the only online component stockett by wall street and it's this we are the other ninety nine percent tumblr and what it is is like an endlessly generating series of you know people telling their stories giving their testimony it's like their michael harrington did a very famous book called the other american one nine hundred sixty and it speired the war on poverty and the great society reforms this is like an endless loop of that that is self published you know and if you're talking about what brings us
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together rather than what divides us you see these stories and there's so much commonality in them and all they have to do is present that and and it shows itself that the economy is not working for the broad mass of americans and i think that once you see this and it's so direct and so real you feel you finally can break through this divide you know what you're talking about the things that the bodies that everybody should check out this tumblr first absolutely absolutely check it out of so now lastly you know what do you think about there are certain efforts out there pushes to maybe try to have a constitutional amendment to get rid of citizens united and you know get this ruling overturned is there any chance we might actually see that happen and that's a long term project but i think ending corporate. personhood the idea that of course that money equals speech in politics is at the heart of our problems and certainly some people believe that until you get that done you're not going to get
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anywhere with a lot of these initiatives certainly on the straight legislative strategy and maybe even in a direct action strategy until you stop the situation where politicians get elected by making very rich people and corporate interests and the elites for money so they can get elected i mean tell you in that dynamic you're not going to get very far and that that's the theory unfortunate that's our system works too and a lot of the time we don't even know who it is that they're begging for all this cash which is another one of the huge problems here and will be documenting some of that later. this week on the show to is breaking down what some of these secret diners are david i thank you so much for joining us tonight thank you. now still to come another death penalty case goes back before the u.s. supreme court this case hinges on misconduct by the legal team was that the suspect played on the show and the u.s. signed the international anti-counterfeiting agreement so what does this mean for internet users who download music and videos all around the world and break into.
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a lot of people here you are full of the days of rage is the global economy on the brink of a double dip recession if so why can't the rich west find the right mix of fiscal and. i'll say the troika underwear bomber is having his day in court don't want to lob was arrested after his failed attempts at blowing up a plane on christmas day in two thousand and nine authorities say the so-called underwear bomber hid chemicals under his clothing with hopes of blowing up northwest airlines flight two fifty three there are eight counts in all including conspiracy to commit terrorism and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction. the q.'s is going to appear in a federal district court representing himself apparently all kind of tradition and
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according to the atlantic the defendant has been a quite a handful in pretrial proceedings they haven't been much different despite the fact of the trial still in jury selection the twenty four year old defendant had to be excused to change into more appropriate clothing and he had a few outbursts in court declaring that islamic cleric anwar a lockie is alive despite the reports that he was killed in yemen last friday now he's not exactly the powerful proponent for al qaida the critics of domestic terror trials imagine an underwear bomber is just the latest terrorism suspect to be tried on american soil it's kind of interesting if you think back to the frenzy that was spearheaded by rudy giuliani in two thousand and nine after the obama administration ministration said that they were going to try alleged nine eleven mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed in a civilian court in manhattan the former mayor said that a civilian trial would be the wrong move and that it would deny that the u.s. is involved in a war on terror but barack obama deciding that we're not at war with terrorism any longer so this is not treated as if it was an act of war which should be treated
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like. he was not the only one screaming bloody murder human rights first org put together this compilation of pundits getting in their two cents to scare the american people. why did you sign up lower manhattan making it a mess maybe it is and i'm not so noble decision at the very least this was an order to mitigate it disastrous for just security of its teachers increasing its teaching you david sure you. that's right this was a huge deal all we heard about was the amount of security that would need to be involved and the horrors of trying suspects terror suspects on american soil allowing them to use our federal courts instead of military commissions and thanks to all this ridiculous outcry the obama administration as usual backed down on trying to send the us but we really enough a year later made a lot of tanzania who played a role in the bombing of two u.s. embassies in africa was tried in federal court in new york city to very little fanfare hardly anyone even notice of the trial was going on just like the trial of
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the underwear bomber which looks to be as an eventful as all the past mystic terrorist trials so at this point the media has barely devoted any coverage to jury selection for a bill to law and if people haven't started complaining yet i doubt they're going to is it interesting how the media just forgets about covering how scary domestic terror trials are when they're actually happening maybe maybe just maybe that's because they are not scary at all. what actor has officially been signed saturday at a ceremony in tokyo the u.s. along with australia canada japan morocco new zealand and singapore and south korea all signed on to and anti-counterfeiting trade agreement now the agreement is meant to fight against the infringement of intellectual property rights i mean account of piracy and counterfeiting on a global scale and as some critics say impose the draconian laws of the u.s. on the rest of the world and something that's been in the works since two thousand and eight and it's come under a lot of scrutiny for starters the u.s.
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government claims that it doesn't need congressional approval and before some of the drafts began to be leaked the obama administration actually claimed that it was a national security secret so the secrecy here is rather bothersome and. others also say that this deprives consumers of their rights while giving big entertainment firms and i ask these too much power so let's find out more about this joining me to discuss it is c.n.n. correspondent declan mccullagh declan i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight now we've spoken about acting numerous times here on this show but you give us a refresher or i guess finalizer now that we've seen the final language as to what exactly is in this. right i mean no one of. the news is that it's final you've been covering this i've been covering this for a few years now and it's a done deal and there are sort of two reasons why people were concerned about this the first was the actual substance of it one of them one of the ideas that the motion picture industry here in the u.s. the reporting industry here in the u.s.
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we're trying to export internationally was to deputize internet service providers and copyrights encourage them to block access to websites that are suspected of piracy so there is substantial concerns about the treaty the second aspect is the procedural component of it another words this was done in secret it took a vote by the european union to open up some of the negotiations and so there are kind of these two main reasons to be wary of it and that only some of those concerns have been resolved is there anything that you would say that really sticks out here you know that really is worrisome i mean are you know what are we going to start seeing happen other countries guy after somebody who downloaded twenty songs and you know try to get billing millions of dollars out of them for at. greater to actually the most controversy or portions have been excised from it just because
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that they just would have slowed the whole process down and so i think the backers of it decided that maybe half a loaf was better than nothing at all but one major component is circumvention in the in the nineteen ninety eight digital millennium copyright act here in the u.s. we have this idea that if you try to bypass copy protection devices then like on a d.v.d. or a blu ray for instance you are at least guilty of a civil offense and you may be a criminal as well you know that idea is going internationally but no because we already have that us it's not going to affect what's happening here. but it will affect a lot of other countries citizens of a lot of other countries if their governments signed on to it well talk about the governments that have signed on and interesting left maybe you can explain this to me too because i know that mexico the european union switzerland their representatives were there but they decided not to sign at the same time we have mostly western nations a couple of asian countries you know no brazil no china russia india what does that
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tell you about it. the jews you know they're the countries and might be a little more sympathetic to ira see. china is not exactly. in the forefront of cracking down on intellectual property infringement they're a little bit skeptical about this in their leaders skeptical for the right reasons of civil liberties ones really discovered for the wrong reasons but the this hasn't been as well received as i think inspectors wanted inspectors a world by the way the largely the us the mean implied this is because the us has such great copyright exports kind of that is one of the good of the good things we do we export a lot of operating and i certainly don't know not exporting as much as the manufactured goods but both the obama administration and the bush administration had treated this as you said earlier as a national security secret and so a lot of criticism was what's going on here if you know people are meeting behind
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closed doors you almost tend to assume the worst and yeah i just i find that incredibly mind boggling of this is a national security secret although i guess the way of the two is ministration the prior administration been carrying themselves nothing should really shock us anymore but how does that even work why doesn't this require congressional approval i mean a for signing something that's an international agreement. if this were a formal treaty then this would require the executive branch to sign on and it would require application by the us. but because this isn't something that the us needs to sign on because all i want in the final version are line actually more or less tracks of the text of an actor there's nothing that the senate needs to do it's an earlier versions mind you especially the ones like maybe two strikes you're out if you and i use internet service writers must disable access that phrase was
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used in earlier drafts access to cooperative materials you know if some of the earlier language was in then it would require modifications to the u.s. law and actually by the senate but because this is kind of almost were witnesses symbolically signing it it doesn't require the legislative branch to do anything now what about who exactly the backers are i mean we say that the united states is the back and that's because we have so much material material out there that you know i guess people want to copyright but were the recording industry the motion picture association basically was the big entertainment industry really involved in backing this and whereas let's say us the consumers were asked at all. well i mean i guess if you are the obama or bush administration i'll say well we're elected we represent the consumers in reality special interest politics in washington d.c. are very powerful and there are relatively few groups that are going to be taking well let's curb copyright law that approach and so i remember reading an article
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saying that the motion picture association of america says that actor is both an important step forward. there's public knowledge on the other hand was more skeptical about not knowledge as a civil liberties group but in general in all of the comp europe groups came together the large copyright holders came together to lobby on both the bush and obama administrations to go forward with an actor and this was kind of what some people saw as unseemly and therefore it led to criticism that. that hollywood and its the lobbyist minions are writing this behind closed doors i declan what i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight i guess after three years of following this story out there it is it's a done deal thanks. well just weeks after the supreme court refused to stay the execution of georgia inmate troy davis they are now set to hear another death row case this time from alabama death row inmate corey maples is charged with
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killing two men fifteen years ago however that's not what actually brings his case to the supreme court the mabel's missed his opportunity to appeal his inadequate legal representation because get this his paperwork for the appeal wasn't filed by the mandatory deadline the two lawyers handling mabel's appeal worked pro bono out of a new york based law firm and both had moved on to new jobs so when both lawyers moved on to a new job a crucial appeals notice was returned to sender nobody bothered to inform abel's that his attorneys were dropping him ultimately causing him to mrs opportunity to appeal now the supreme court is going to decide if that missed court date should be excused since it was technically an administrative problem that was out of the defendant's control but more importantly here raises questions about legal representation for death row inmates after they were sentenced to death the birmingham news says that alabama unlike other capital punishment states doesn't provide legal assistance for death row inmates to challenge issues raised after a trial such as ineffective counsel so perhaps that's why maples had to rely
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a lawyer is in new york city who agreed to help the inmate pro bono and then dropped the ball not as of now maples retain new counsel with former solicitor general general gregory carr who describes the defendants previously failed legal representation as a violation of the constitution that's far it's being reported by the a.p. if the court is likely to side with mabel's and the death row inmate could get another hearing with lower records over his absent attorneys and the inadequate representation now thankfully the supreme court gets a say on this issue but this case just goes to show you how truly messed up our capital punishment system is that somebody could be refused an appeal because their defense team dropped and never bothered to let them know i think that is really disturbing now i'm not going to argue mabel's case itself but i think that most people are in agreement that he should be guaranteed due process for his death penalty case from start to finish including having his appeal. heard in court and with proper legal representation and the highest courts should agree as well. coming up next we have our tuesday. presidential candidate rick perry suggested the
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you put in your piece would you bring with me she would not pass today will be stone an entirely different philosophy the philosophy of confrontation. russia and china voted against a draft u.n. security council resolution on syria saying that sanctions could it lead to in libya style military intervention moscow and beijing announced a new resolution should safeguard syrian sovereignty and allow time for internal reforms the russian ambassador to the u.n. says moscow is not supporting president assad but wants to bring an end to the violence through talks the u.s. says it is. the outcome of the vote. and in other news. the public sector workers began to stride gain that grounding aircraft stopping trains and other services in protest against austerity member measures and they called this as mrs a deficit targets prompting euro zone file.
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