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a movement gaining strength and numbers as seven occupy wall street gets ready for some major unions to fight and unite and their fight against corruption so does main street have the power to pave the road for some real change. armed are bad of the people. i'm not mad at them for being so loud are mad at us for having been so quiet the past two years back from the window. but it's time to break the silence from protests and wisconsin's occupy wall street average americans are being no
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more as progressive groups and leaders try to take back the american dream well another new party emerged in the us. and it's not just wall street that's fallen victim to big business and blue ends and in fact all aspects of life from the food you eat the not a sense you take so is there a cure will have health ranger mike adams diagnose the nails of our friend green. it's wednesday october fifth four pm in washington d.c. i'm liz wall you're watching our team. from new york to boston chicago and l.a. occupy wall street protests continue to grow in numbers across the nation and today the grassroots movement is expected to grow exponentially with key unions joining the rally in the big apple some of those joining in the united federation of
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teachers workers united and transport workers union local one hundred these organizations have already endorsed occupy wall street but their presence and physical support today is making the voice of the protest louder and stronger and while the mainstream media first mocked the protesters for being scatterbrained hippies they may now be forced to take note as some of the biggest players in organized labor join the cause i want to mention we have a crew on the ground in new york and we will bring you new pictures from the heart of the rally only what five a loss will be joined by labor journalist mike l. but for now i want to talk about whether this is the beginning of some real change well the protesters come from all walks of life what seems to unite them is their outrage over the big banks and the corporations they say are running the show and profiting at the expense of ninety nine percent of the nation's population as some say there's outrage is over the system is similar to the uprisings we saw in the
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middle east so like the arab spring could we see an american fall joining me now for more from our studio in l.a. nomi prins author of this book right here black tuesday. hi there no means today could be a milestone for the ox for occupy wall street as a unions join the four is how do you think their participation will affect the movement. i think the movement five becoming bigger as it becomes bigger will catalyze more people to join it's sort of a self-fulfilling thing and having the unions involved having the other organizations come on board as well just expands not just the voice but also the magnitude of the protests and who's there and who's been affected by the grossly unfair system that we have the benefits the bank and the benefits wall street at the expense of the rest of the population and i think that's going to be an important step towards increasing awareness also in the media groups that are
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involved in more awareness and that will again bring about increased focus and so forth now do you think that because protests can be compared to the protests we saw that swept the middle east. you know when we talked about this this here and i've written about what happened in the middle east as well and there was an extent of that protest in those protests that were based in the desire for a different political ideology on the ground but also in more so as i and others wrote at the time they were about economic depression economic devastation and despair in those nations in particular if you look at cairo there was twenty five percent or more youth learned fluent a lot of the youth was in the streets if they were secure financially and economically it would have been less of a catalyst to go and demonstrate as they did if it were just a political demonstration so there was little there was there were those two things going on but it was the economics that basically catalyzed i believe what what went
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on there and also what we've seen across europe and what we are now seeing in the united states that if people don't have the idea that somehow things are going to be fairer that things are going to be more financially secure that they matter then going to the streets and making their voices heard is the next step and i think that's what we're seeing here so in that respect there's definitely a likeness between what happened in the middle east and what's happening in europe to what's happening here in the united states now going along with that comparison do you think that this could be the beginning of something much more profound people are organizing but do you think that this could be the beginning of some real change in the real revolution is kind of an extreme word but i mean what does that work in this case. it is a revolution and it is small at the moment but but again with groups coming in and with more media focus and more people getting a sense for what the protests are really about and what they are about again is
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creating a more fair or economy for the majority of the population and i think everyone can relate to that no matter what political spectrum there probably no matter how old they are no matter what job they might or may not have and i think in that respect it remains to be seen whether the momentum can continue whether more people can find their own voices in this movement and join. and feel an empathy or get more understanding what the issues are that are causing a lot of the economic depression that most people are feeling so i think it's still it's still early but it's encouraging that is awareness and the growth of the number of people and groups that are involved is continuing now we are seeing the mainstream media denigrate and downplay this movement i want to play this clip for you know there's no political movement there is no search for any kind of a political movement there they wouldn't have the backing of the american public.
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he says they won't have they wouldn't have the backing of the american public what do you what do you think about that. but you know that there are good poll just just today that show there is there is an increasing backing from the american public and i think to view the protestors by the mainstream media is sort of some fringe group of people that are affected is is not a true portrayal of what's going on here in america and throughout the world which is that the majority of people have been this enfranchise been exploited by the poppy by the corporations by wall street by the relationship between wall street washington and how policy has been formed so it isn't necessary that every single person in the street at any given moment can articulate a political platform what's important is that they're there aggregating together there have been demands in a certain platform that have been coming forth from some of the organizers behind the movement that are going to grow and change because the people that are most frustrated saying written most disgusted by how this country is operating all have
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a slightly different reason for being involved in the protests or watching them or supporting them or whatever level they're engaged in so the fact that the mainstream media is sort of denigrating this is truly not understanding a lot of the people the mainstream media you know also have been the compromised by the type of political infrastructure and wall street supremacy that we have so they're really kind of shooting themselves in the foot or at least understanding the roots of why people are out there and what can be done now beyond the mainstream media we heard the reaction from the presidential candidates mitt romney called these protests dangerous class warfare what is your reaction to these movements getting these kinds of labels. well you know the tea party movement didn't get that sort of class warfare type of label and frankly it's there's nothing wrong with class work all of the majority of the people have been
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disenfranchised and have been had their own personal economy is depressed and in their global situation where where jobs are in employment is sixteen seventeen percent in general and in a lot of the cities where you that employment is twenty five percent where we're health care is prohibited where education is impossible to to achieve without supreme debt i mean you know this is something that that is that is rampant and for the presidential candidates to not understand that even conservatives even republicans are facing financial distress in these times and under these policies is to really not understand many of their constituents now do you think politicians that well be listening or are they listening to these protests and if not who are they listening to. well so far they're listening to the companies in the lobbyist in the banks that support them that are you know critical at this particular particular juncture to campaigns you know president obama has significant campaign contributions already flowing in for example from the financial community from last
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free as he did in the last election and so do many of the top g.o.p. candidates so they're currently listening to where their money is flowing from and there's been less money flow coming from the individual populations with compared to last election because people are just disgusted and don't want to pay for policies that are helping them so that is another reason why they're still focus of politicians on their core constituency which is the gore campaign contributors which are the corporations but i think the bigger it if this movement grows bigger and if it continues and grows into the election season then they will start to listen a little more so again it really has a lot to do with how how much momentum has been created and how much can continue because the issues that are behind this protest have been real and have been one and not been addressed so far now we thank you so much for joining us that was no he pranced author of black to the state. now the last time we saw massive protests
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a new party emerged where the tea party i'm sure you've heard of them soak up the occupy wall street protest at the beginning of the progressives getting a tea party of their own party correspondent christine prez alex handed a conference taking back the american dream to find out how. you could say this is where it all started. the fight for labor rights in wisconsin today it continues with god as a nationwide protest against the power of the street and is evolving into what some are now calling a revolution. on the streets and off the street. hoping to add fuel to this grassroots fire hundreds of progressive groups and leaders are latching on including van jones the campaign to take back the american dream at
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a conference of the same name we went from hoping to moping ever got to build a movement in the middle this movement is now being built according to lawmakers and labor leaders alike i think america knows who's responsible and they're upset by it and they're upset that these folks are still living as if they hadn't destroyed millions of lives and i think that's going to spread across the country and i think it's spreading because those with all the wealth are hurting it and people need jobs aren't getting them it's time they say to fight the echo chamber of corporate and right wing interests if you say that over and over and over again on fox news on radical yellow radio at rush limbaugh if you stated over and over again on the editorial pages of the wall street journal stated over and over again people start believing it because they say to themselves what i keep hearing that we saw with. the tea party man insta tapped into that. capturing
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the airwaves and pushing policy the worst people in america with the worst ideas have dominated the discussion and i'm not mad at them. i'm not mad at the tea party . i'm not mad at them produce so loud i'm mad at us for having been so quiet those here say they will be fired no more especially when it comes to communicating a stronger more unified message we'll begin to see party because our values are more simple by more americans and do you want to have good jobs for your family do you want to have good health care do you want to have strong child healthy communities you want to have education is not the case goes and probably others argue for different reasons this is nothing like the tea party here's tea party core founder mark meckler these people are not like the partiers they're not law abiding citizens they're camping in a park work here thing isn't allowed they're breaking the laws on the brooklyn bridge that's not tea party behavior that's not america loving behavior here they
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say it's about how to reclaim the american dream make rich people pay their fair share and the corporations pay their fair share it is he's had stolen the american dream so many people were here to take it back i said democracy in a form rarely seen in this country so that's got to get bad enough for you to get better and i think people with maybe some false hope that without working too hard oh bother with us all the while course we dissolve you have a reality the reality is if you don't buy what you want you deserve what you get progressive leaders and protesters alike place much of the blame here i place three where they say lobbyist work hard funneling corporate money into the hands of lawmakers maintaining a system that benefits corporations and the wealthy and not the majority of american people a system they say change in washington christine for the hour our team. and joining me now from our correspondent christine friends out hi christine has our joining us so how does this take back the american dream movement fit in with
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the occupy wall street protests that we're seeing as an extension of those protests i mean i think i showed in my report there's a lot of things going on here and a lot of people that i spoke to this take back the american dream. friends look at the occupy wall street they look at wisconsin and they say you know this is our american autumn they look they compare it to what's happened in egypt in tunisia in terms of rising up against their government but they do also to an extent like to compare themselves to the tea party saying finally an answer because basically since the election of president obama in two thousand and eight there hasn't been sort of a lot of liberal movement progressive movements and the loudest voices according to them in many ways they say have been from the tea party so they're comparing themselves to the tea party but not necessarily on very different ideologies but their organization you know and jones we saw him in the package one of the things that he said is you know he before he and
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a lot of others didn't want to make that comparison but he said it's time to actually take some lessons from them and here's one thing that they did good that tea party people that identify themselves with the tea party talk about rugged individual ism however they work collectively they know what their message is they have two or three talking points and they stick to them the problem he says with the progressive movement is that you have so many different groups of people you know for people in the labor movement people fighting for labor people fighting for racial justice women's rights. the environment you have all these different group of people and they talk about working together and once for the benefit of the ninety nine percent of america however that's not what you see you see somebody with the signs somebody with the signs so there's not a unified message he said that needs to change we need to all be on the same page fighting for the same thing now do you get a sense that it's possible for the progressives pool their voices and research resources and eventually launch launch their own party and that's what that's what
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it's about i mean it is hard and that has been one of the challenges is that you have people with so many different desires that identify themselves that you know either as progressives or liberals or on the left and they want their cause to be good. in the most attention so i think that's where the biggest challenge is i think that it's been made aware that that has been an obstacle to getting things done you've heard for the last couple years you know the economic crisis is hurting people we see this income and what inequality gap continue to grow let's fight for them by the way let's save the environment by the way l g b t rights you know gay marriage so not that they should propose issues that they care about aside but that they should sort of work together especially in the next year or so to try to find common ground to stick to a message that resonates with people that's not long or complicated you know event that they can speak in soundbites and get it across and this movement kind of
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resonates with you know when president obama when he was campaigning he was on his rhetoric was hope and change and of course van jones he used to work for president obama is is there any sign that the way president obama is reacting to this or is there any communication between the two of them you know their president obama hasn't spoken so much about it we did hear from vice president biden who was a little bit confused about who van jones even was van jones the green energy czar for the white house for about six months resigned in a scandal that had to do with going back and all this other stuff but i think that . everything that i heard van jones say is something that i'm pretty sure the white house would be on board with at least on the surface i think they're still waiting to see sort of how the occupy wall street protests take shape before they sort of comment or react so i haven't seen much although there's a chance for the house all right and the part of the party that we're comparing this to that they're comparing it to is the tea party and the idea what this party
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would be called if it were to emerge that's a good question i don't know that that's probably a good idea if they're going to come up with a unified message they should come up with a unified. voice van jones' new thing that he started is called rebuild the dream this is called take back the american dream some of the protesters on wall street call themselves the ninety nine er's as far as a name though maybe this is too too much in the early stages but i think i've heard of so far kristie thank you so much for your insight that was artsy correspondent christine. now occupy wall street is venting their anger at the corporate elite that they say is searing our economy into a depression they say corporations have infiltrated our politics resulting in a nation that is not so democratic and even more beyond the economy what other ways can corporations be running the lives of the masses some say their power is so vast that they dictate not just the economy but the types of medicines we take even the
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food that we eat like adams also known as the health of ranger talks to us about the surprising ways corporations influence everyday lives of average people. great to be joining you today hi there you say corporate power is so strong that they have a say in the types of foods we consume why do you say that. well you know the corporate influence on the u.s.d.a. has been so enormous that the u.s.d.a. has granted approval for what are essentially experimental foods or crocs known as genetically modified organisms or genetically engineered crops they've never been proven safe and some evidence links them to for example organ destruction in animals and yet the american people are being treated as guinea pigs by consuming these g m o's unknowingly because they aren't required to be labeled but both the u.s.d.a. and the f.d.a. go along with it so we see corporate influence throughout the u.s.
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government and especially throughout the regulators who are proving products that really have a dubious safety record and how is the corporate agenda affecting the health of the general public well if the the big medical industry of course is based on earning profits from sickness and disease so there's really no financial incentive for the pharmaceutical industry or even the vaccine industry for that matter to really show people how to prevent disease to take responsibility for how to stay healthy to make good food choices and so on there's just not an incentive there and it doesn't have to be a conspiracy to keep people sick it just has to be realizing that before profit medical industry which works very closely with government has no financial incentive whatsoever to keep people healthy. so you're saying that there is a financial incentive to keep people sick there is indeed yes the cancer industry
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generates billions of dollars a year off people who have cancer i'm not saying that they're trying to keep people sick with cancer but they sure aren't looking very hard for the cures that really exist out there nor the nutrients that we know help prevent cancer such as vitamin d. which is only pennies a day and at least one study shows that it can help prevent four out of five types of all cancers that's just one nutrient that could really revolutionize health care in america and yet the cancer industry is not talking about it you know age isn't really talking about it the president isn't talking about it we need to be talking about how do we prevent sickness and disease and keep our population out of the hospitals and off the drugs instead of becoming lifetime patients and lifetime paying customers who are going bankrupt because they stay sick. well this sounds kind of scary and why why aren't we talking about and why is the best interests not
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for public health. well i think it's the same reason we're not talking about let's say an honest money supply but why are the bankers in charge of the economy why is the federal reserve printing currency and not turning over control of the money supply to the people it's really all about consolidating power into the hands of the few who work in conjunction with government often through a corruption kind of avenue rather than allowing the power to go back to the people and this is why we're seeing occupy wall street this is right people are taking to the streets because they're fed up with being dictated to with having their wealth and their health stolen away people want their power back and they have every right to demand it so i support all the public protests that we're seeing today in america and that was the next question i was in asking we're seeing the occupy last year protests gaining momentum do you see this as a hope for some real change in the system
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a system that you say is designed to benefit from some benefit the corporations yet clearly the system that we have today the status quo is designed to benefit the few at the cost of the many and i do have hope because for a long time i wondered would people get off their couches and get out into the streets and make their voices heard and demand their power back and demand control over their money supply and control over their own health destiny and we're starting to see some early signs of success today occupy wall street whether or not people agree with the particular message is being said there i agree with the principle of people getting out and making their voice voices heard accessing their first amendment rights and letting lead their voices be heard on wall street in washington and all around the country and i mean part of it sorry i don't mean to jump in there but i want to play a sound bite for you from ron paul where he is referring to this uprising.
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the film was involved with probably about fifteen trillion dollars with the transactions and a third of it was there to serve for an. end when you meet people here it's no wonder they're up on wall street raising cain because they know the system is biased against the average person so mike what do you think is the system biased against the average person absolutely and ron paul is exactly on point with that quote as he has been consistently year after year the global banking cartels you might call them really do operate for their own selfish benefit at the expense of the american people and one of the things that ron paul has called for which we have supported natural news is to audit the fed but have some transparency in what's happening with the money supply that's also why we happen to support ron paul as a presidential candidate he's the one person out there who wants to tell the truth
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and have some real transparency so that the american people can see what's happening to their future mike thank you so much for joining us that was mike adams the health ranger and from questionable food industry practices and occupy wall street protests in the u.s. today continuing turmoil in greece clashes between protesters and police forces have asked to lay it out in front of the parliament building thousands of people have flooded the streets of athens during a twenty four hour public sector strike shutting down schools and courts and causing all rights to be grounded r.t. correspondent sara firth is in athens and she set the scene for us there. we saw the scenes on the streets. in fact a square outside the main parliament building really as. the tensions pool david with the angry protesters and the riot police clashing we saw a gas being fired we also saw some people needing medical attention rightly so
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moving on to syntagma square and trying to clear the protesters out of that area and really sent very aggressive scenes of the clashes between the two sides that we saw the police moving into the metro station chasing some of the protesters here. at the match a workers on strike and actually intervening to push back the riot police certainly a very very tense situation we see more of these asperity measures being passed not really raise the level of public anger head at the beginning of the day the main labor party is in the country had led thousands of workers public sector workers on to the streets to protest against these measures and again like we said we saw they scenes that escalating quite dramatically throughout the day people are really losing trust in the eurozone leaders of village city to take the country out of this crisis and support measures in place that are actually realistic and can be met now what we've seen over the last couple of weeks is the government passing
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more and more these are starting measures to try and keep the international lenders on side to try and prove to them that they're able to take these steps to try and plug the deficit in their budget the property tax we saw passed last week and the announcement of possible job losses on top of people already in the country having had the salaries cut dramatically most people at about thirty percent of the salaries of who are being cut then to have these extra taxes this is really raise the level of anger amongst the public here he said they simply can't manage that now we've seen this all say quite disconcertingly spreading throughout the usa and from the sovereign debt crisis moving now into the banking sector. there is well and there are fears of a repeat of what we saw a couple of years back and you know once again we're hearing what people are saying is the steps in the measures that were put in place at that time after he saw the collapse of lehman brothers you know it really was a chief or not because we find ourselves back in the same situation certainly here
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in greece we've already seen italy being downgraded by midis and this david for midi said that that happened as a result of a lack of trust in the year governments really does then slid could not be echoed any more clearly by the public here is what is exactly how they feel they just lost trust in the eurozone leaders ability to get them out of the situation it is now really that we're going to see this meeting for the financial crisis into very severe economic recession possibly not just because the rest of the year is a countries as well now as ours and correspondent sara firth with the latest on the turmoil in greece well that does it for now for more stories that we covered go to our t. dark heart slashing usa or check out our you tube page its dark heart slash r.t. america thanks for watching i'm liz wahl see you in our.

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