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you just put a picture underneath when i was like nine years old like that you tell the truth. i'm a concession i am a little get a friend that i love driving because he is a pretty. he was kind of the guest today. i'm very proud of the with al-jazeera has played. such a. hard time for you said it i read it i take time to respond privately and engaging your comments on facebook twitter and you tube and got something to say i listen. now first autoresponder

viewer who watched our preview of the supreme court this term rather alpha said i'm due to some very important cases coming up too bad the scotus is the most right wing it has been in generations now it's very true but this current supreme court is one of the most conservative that we've seen and a very long time we've seen decision after decision prove that from citizens united which you raised whatever remnants of campaign law used to exist to hudson the michigan which blew the fourth amendment to smithereens ruling the evidence can be used after it was found by detroit police officers who stormed a home without announcing themselves and the conservative justices now hold a majority of the court he asked me that's a scary thing with so many important cases for your health and privacy set to come before the court in the coming months and keep in mind of course a supreme court is supposed to be about justice and not about partisanship unfortunately seems like that's a thing of the past and next i would respond if you are who watched my interview was seen as declan mccullagh on the u.s. finally signing on to act which the obama administration originally claimed was

a state secret and to large parts of it were leaked make mac grasset on you tube every damn thing is a very thin state state secret just a way to continuously keep normal business as usual away from the people our movement is happening at the right time sure a needed to be done years ago decades but any time is the right time stay strong remain peaceful and keep it out i think of this comment really hit the nail on the head the protesters that occupy wall street americans in general are sick and tired of all the major decisions pertaining to their lies being made behind closed doors especially from an administration who promised to be the most open and transparent in history president obama swore up and down to the american people they would be different and yet it's very clear that that is simply not the case and the obama administration has invoked the state secrets privilege time and time again to keep the american people in the dark and the fact of a try to use the state secrets description to shield the copyright document from the public was just absurd i think that everybody knows the act is not and never was an issue of national security as an example. the u.s.

government doing the bidding of corporate interests not exactly with those and occupy wall street are fighting against governments and corporations working in collusion to keep the american people down in the dark now lastly don't respond to a viewer who commented on our reporting of the occupy wall street protests that hume's that on facebook your coverage of this event is unrivaled on all news channels or news programs thank you alone and r.t. thank you denny we've been covering the occupy wall street protests from day one because of all the misinformation out there about the protests now being peddled by other media outlets it's important to set the record straight and we plan to continue doing just that not just my ranting today but i will be back with more next week. now we hear about whole after poll revealing the decline of american public support for our wars in iraq and afghanistan and in fact a recent c.b.s. poll determined that q. in three americans think that we should dramatically reduce the amount of u.s. troops in afghanistan with sixty two percent believing that that reduction should happen immediately but what has far less what we've heard far less about the

opinion of those who have actually been fighting in our wars and putting their lives on the line a pew research poll conducted a study comparing u.s. popular opinion and the opinions of military veterans and all shocking stat that jumped out at us was the lack of popularity amongst frederick's when it comes to the current wars and brought efficient ones at least only a third of veterans say that both wars in iraq and afghanistan have been worth fighting thirty three percent say that both wars are not worth the cost so only one out of every three soldiers actually say the wars have not been worth excuse me so one out of three soldiers said that the wars have not been worth the effort and i think personally that's very revealing but what are their views on the overall u.s. mission with the war on terror when it comes to nation building fifty nine percent of post nine eleven veterans are on board with the military's efforts in afghanistan and iraq on the topic of unmanned aerial attacks in the u.s. military eighty six percent of post nine eleven veterans and veterans of previous era's think that drones are a good idea and the use of drones is also growing in popularity amongst the general

public but sixty eight percent of them like the idea of using drones rather than soldiers now i guess those numbers are kind of surprising considering the growing amount of questions surrounding the legality and the civilian death tolls that are associated with the use of drones i'm assuming here that for many americans of the government is going to wage war on their behalf it rather have fewer of their own men and women in harm's way you know perhaps the government should be paying more attention to those that they've actually sent to iraq and afghanistan to fight on behalf of this country all more than ninety percent of the veterans who are interviewed think of the military's help them grow and mature as an individual only a third of them think that their actual mission in the war stricken countries. has been worth it that's more than a few veterans with some radical ideas now again these are the men and women who are actually in our military buying for us seeing what our wars actually look like when a third of the veterans think that our wars aren't work because perhaps it's time for the politicians here in d.c. to stop bickering about what the next move should be listen to those that have actually been doing their bidding just let me say it again let's get out and left

and worse. as a new video out there on the web that's raising a few questions is it really anonymous or is it a trick that we don't know yet what it promises it to take down the new york stock exchange website called operation invade wall street this is what we choose to declare our war against the new york stock exchange we can no longer stay silent as the population is being taken advantage of for the sake of profits we will show the world that we are true to our word killed or tense it was actually shall be embraced from being injured or killed or tense expect again that shall never ever before dark. you have to give us real than what they're planning another d.d. o. s. attacks eventually the same tactics that anonymous used to briefly take down pay pal and master card but this raises a larger question here as to whether d.d. o. s. attacks are legal or not he currently there's a case in santa cruz california where

a homeless man is being accused of setting up a d.d. o. s. on the city's website in protest of a campaign not his attorney jail lederman is arguing that there is no such thing as a d.d. o. s. attack idea less as a protest it's a digital sit in it is no different than physically occupying a space it's not a crime it's beach now so far it seems like a number of indicators point to those arrests and sweeps against anonymous and law they also use the same defense strategy so do they have a legal point well joining me to discuss it is nico neely a lecturer in public policy at harvard kennedy school and the founder and president of dot com if you want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and for starters any speculation here as to whether this is a real anonymous attack or not when it comes to the new york stock exchange i mean the interesting thing is that it's on monday which is columbus day which is a holiday that's just the web site so so i could avoid the strip trading. i mean it's impossible to say but it looks like fun one way or the other. all right foop

or we get into some of the legal questions here tell us again one more time we've done this many times on the show but what exactly goes into doing a d.d. o. s. attack health works well actually every website is. what websites and web servers that are a lot like the computers you and i use every day and there's a web page or web site is just a file on one of those computers just like you might have a microsoft word file in your my documents folder and every website is just a file in a folder on a computer somewhere and so in a distributed denial of service attack what happens is that people arrange for thousands hundreds of thousands maybe even millions of computers to request a word. site the files on the website all at once and most websites are not accustomed to having a single file requested by that many computers all at the exact same time most of us when we go to websites and we request we open them up we're requesting a file but in truth in point of fact there's not that many computers opening them

all simultaneously and so distributed denial of service attack is everybody asking for it once it's almost like you're sitting at the dining room table and all ten people at the table all reach for the salt at once it's a very similar kind of orchestrated coronated move ok so if we're talking about sitting let's get a legal portion of this right you agree with this attorney here that this is a protected foreign speech this is just like doing a sedated physically you know whether there's definitely there's definitely are some some there's an appropriate comparison to be made between distributed denial of service attacks and sit ins and i think there's a clear parallel there are also denial of service attacks that are not that are not acts of protests that are criminal acts designed to break into a system to steal something but in there's also a kind of. service attack which is in fact very similar to

a sit in i mean if you think about everybody going to a bank and sitting in the lobby of the bank at once so there's no other business can be transacted i mean you can definitely make the point and distributed denial of service attack is very similar kind of activity everybody requesting the website that wants together it's almost as if we all sat in front of our computers and at the exact same time hit enter so would you say that while you know the details are still about haiti on this case in santa cruz as to whether the homeless guy actually. did the video last attack on the santa cruz web site when it comes to anonymous the law say what they've done in taking down the thick are taking on paper do you think about qualifies as a protest as a sit in your eyes eyes. you know if it's about political speeches about political purpose it's not about some kind of fiscal financial gain i definitely think that there is there's an argument to be made to conceal in jenin that form of social protest you know i think there are probably some there are definitely some gray

areas in the space but broadly speaking i think it's there's a clear appropriate parallel i hear something that i thought was interesting there's a woman a mercedes paper who was one of the arrestees she's alleged to be her anonymous and one of the things that she was saying is that you know president obama tells his supporters to overload the switchboards of congress that he wants them to call about something so he's allowed it and she thinks that that is a form of a d.d. o. s. attacks so why is national our call for it and she hasn't so she thinks that that's what a call persecution is very yeah i absolutely think that you know i'm not as a person but lots of advocacy groups and what washington d.c. and around the country they want to overwhelm the capitol switchboard to get it together shut down and you know denial of service attack is that's exactly what a denial of service attack here's except it's on a website and sort of a switchboard i mean part of the problem here is i think people just assume websites are these infinite things out in the in the cloud in the ether and in fact

there is some complexity and and some significant constraints to these two answers we do i think that this is something that we're going to start seeing more often of course over the last year or so you could say that hackers and has been a much more public face so do you have any guesses as to where you think courts might go with this or is there any type of legal precedent it's already out there. it's hard to say i mean i think part of this comes down to what extent is their website you know a public space i mean i think a big concern that you know there are number concerns that are starting to get service to about our our digital lives we're all very comfortable on facebook and twitter and and on our i tunes and if there are some significant political issues that are beginning to reveal themselves i mean for one a lot of the public space on the internet is actually privately owned and i think when the courts begin to look at some of these questions they're going to raise some fundamental issues about kind of the nature of public and private space as

well as some interesting compelling issues about privacy and intent that it seems like they're going to be looking at as they say is that sooner rather than later which i guess is a good thing and i thank you so much you can only hope thank you very much. i said it comes night another u.s. government agency is caught spreading along tokyo where the winner parts are told final word tonight and ahead in happy hour sign of the times at present is straight unveils a new north market classic chris christie is a raft about his weight but while female politicians get flak for being the first one was wondering that athletes know. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here and. i think the bombings beautiful and funny well.

we have a government says they are keep them safe get ready because you're going to lose your freedom. you know sometimes you see a story that seems so small a complete you think you understand it and then he glimpse something else and here's some other part of it and realized everything you saw you don't know i'm charge of the big picture. since. we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old i like to tell the truth.

i confess that i am a total ghetto friends that i love driving chaos is a planned trip. he was kind of the guest today. i'm very aware of the role of agency which. i did sign for tonight's tool time award and tonight goes to a sector of our government still doesn't understand our wrong it is to spread islamophobia especially if you're an official government agency now remember just a few weeks ago we told you about how wired uncovered an f.b.i. training course and essential label all muslims as radical well sadly the justice

department seems to be following in their footsteps ajor and spencer ackerman got his hands on a power point presentation from two thousand and ten giving details of what was taught by an official within the d.o.j. well there are a few slides worth sharing for starters one of the slides called defining terrorism with a line across it saying what sets terrorist attacks apart of the political motivations of their perpetrators of the slide carries a statement all say they are muslim all believe they are acting as followers of true is law and we should know that aside go on to explain that there are muslims and then there are islamists but as you can tell a court of the d.o.j. a large portion of the muslim population also falls under the islamist category i.e. the people likely to be responsible for radical acts so perhaps the slide titled our values are threatened gives us real insight into the teachings of the d.o.j. official explains that there is a war going on a civilizational jihad if you will and this war has been going on since the beginning of islam and as to how it is being waged in the us by anyone who threatens america's core values and the purpose of engaging in the civilisational

jihad is to replace american judeo christian and western values with those of islam kind of judge mental to say the least but as you can imagine when ackerman asked the d.o.j. for a comment they simply replied with the department is today. i instructed all u.s. attorneys offices to review all training materials and presentations provided by the justice department personnel to ensure that any material presented is consistent with department standards goals and instructions blah blah blah blah the d.o.j. is only making these reviews happen because they got caught now if you remember that the i tried to get rid of similar media attention by swearing up and down that those classes weren't being taught me more from to find out just a few days later i wasn't really the case and lo and behold now the d.o.j. is caught doing the exact same thing and we should note ackerman is reporting that similar anti islam courses are spreading within the military so i'm really surprised that there is evidence of anti islam classes being taught in other sections of our government will not really but encouraging and teaching methods to members of the u.s. government that basically label of majority of muslims as extremist it sounds right

wrong so for playing a part in trying to brainwash americans to hating muslims and then being you just still bear is because they got caught and d.o.j. is tonight's tools i'm with. ok sign for happy hour and join me tonight as arky correspondent christine for is out and it's nani heard on the hill reporter for roll call player ladies thank you for joining me ok so sarah palin had a massive huge announcement today that she gave. it a radio interview she's not running for president not like we didn't already know that because all she wants is money but let's just remind ourselves why she said last time that she didn't want to be president. this whether i should throw my name in the hat for the g.o.p.

nomination or not been for twenty twelve is a title worth it it does a title shackle person are they someone like me maverick you know i do go rogue i call it like i see it. no one saw the light we used to go maverick so she didn't want to give the. presidency the funny thing about this is so roger ailes was also giving an interview he's on the media around lately and he was defending himself against saying that he has a political bias and his defense for why he does no political bias was. he hired sarah palin because she was hot and got ratings were his exact words which which have just cracks me up i mean that is it really doesn't explain every other person on your channel it still has a political bias but i guess sarah palin you know it's hard yes very much and every rule has she is i don't know i think i mean i am not a person that would normally defend roger ailes but i think the majority of people

who make decisions about who to put on air on all the mainstream media in this country that would be a reason why they're attractive. people are you know you don't say they're like she's hot and that's what i mean and that's why she should run and she says she's not baez but the funny thing about this is you know we haven't heard sarah palin say of people power r.t.l. said but when newsweek put her on the cover a little while ago and she was wearing some little you know teeny shorts there. she got angry at newsweek she called it sexist i guess it's not sexist but roger ailes well newsweek's part of the lame stream media ok well i mean she had a lot on her mind today to be fair she had this whole announcement that she was gearing up for on the facebook. she's not ready she had already increased crazier and i answered a lot of. longer well ok so we were just speaking about women having to be

attractive obviously if you want to be on t.v. but tipper listen to what rush limbaugh was going off on because of course there's been a lot of speculation as to chris christie that to run for president and rush limbaugh had a few comments on that. the truth and the fact of the matter is that female politicians get a pass on every aspect of their appearance. they get it you would never have stories about how some people total titian's facts like there are stories about christie being fake you wouldn't have those stories which was to use a story of danny frank being flipped you don't have a view all these stories of being fat doing it are the players. we have the energy and we have the. question there are plenty of women in politics. leonti of a large mass of women are all disagree with that i mean there are actually plenty of lard ass women in college number one and number two i think that if a large as large

a woman was running for president that yes we would hear all kinds of talk like that when governor christie was running for governor that wasn't so much that didn't come up as much in conversation his weight anything but when you're talking about anyone being the president of the united states the one person to represent this country around the world i disagree i mean i think that man or woman that would come up i really would be there i agree i mean i think politics is one of those few professions but. your appearance is pretty much how we beat you so you write for the hell i mean are there a lot of heavy like out front high profile. do you think i am actually you know there aren't that many there's a few and i'm not going to name names but for the most part i must limbaugh is wrong for the most part rush limbaugh is wrong but i mean i wouldn't say that they're super there's some people who are incredibly fit and make that time and there's other people i mean it's normal that's the truth of the matter i think the one thing that was annoying about the christie thing was how much and this is by everyone and not just being totally overplay it was after getting so much flack to

perry for being racist the fact that all of us were going after christie for being overweight and there's nothing else to talk about you want to like because he's not running for president which you put in i don't know you know i think that like you know obviously it's very important or definitely a large part of when you're running for. political office but i do think that people are a little more wary when it comes to criticizing when you know like that i feel like that would be as acceptable as women about a whole bunch of let me be fair in talking about who we are really good as big ass and get away with it but they're going to say. well let's move on to really fad of the times to look to meet the newest muppet on the block is nearly on to life story that seems a walled away from the normally happy times on the street. oh you don't even know

whether you're going to have a next meal or not. this month ok so the other day we were talking about how there are hallmark cards that are saying sorry that you lost your job now we have this muppet talking about you know going hungry and it's really really depressing but at the same time you know i think that's a mystery in that case a little more realistic than our mainstream media is because they're actually talking about the fact that one in four children now don't know where their next meal is coming from this is reality a little sad to put on you know your kids i mean i was always i as a kid i remember learning a lot of important life lessons from those beautiful muppets on sesame street and i think this is nice that they're doing this i think it's important i think they've done it to deal with things like death like racism. and it is sad and it is a sign of the times but they also have i had one guy living in the garbage can and that wasn't enough. she was really rouse chooses to live in the garbage can one

question does she ever get food on sesame street today eventually eat her i don't know what she's brand new i don't know i don't know that i don't think story line you know this is something she has to sometimes worry about ok last story real quick just just listen. by god to me whoa whoa run streaks that have its. shows up to rove. but just because you are pretty stark for a fan that is calling god here's a nice heartfelt story there's a man who's fifty who said the learning cling on actually helped him find a way of working with his dislike and he in fact now after spending twelve years learning the alien dialect and being made linguist on his teaching others how to speak it's kind of people saying that i love that it's a good twelve years through and to learn it but you know calling on people every

day is hard drug they have cling on immersion camp so you should know the program is going on is to do it as we did yeah i had friends that wanted to go to the immersion camp but i hate school i mean and yeah i know it was very interesting that that a strange language for star trek you people would help somebody with a lot of dyslexia maybe we're on to something maybe that's going to lead sciences somewhere in terms of studying at the backwards parts of the brain but very interesting that it is the language of dr spock playing on saving the day all right gary thanks so much for joining me tonight a different night show thanks for tuning and thanks for the come back tomorrow we'll be covering the occupation in d.c. from the freedom plaza and talking to kevin zeese reorganize of october two thousand and eleven and chris hedges on the meantime got to become a fan of a lot of show on facebook and follow us on twitter you missed any of tonight's or any other nights and you know he's touched all of you tube dot com flash heal our nischelle and i mean up next is that.

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