do not pass go do not collect a six hundred seventy three billion dollars at the occupy wall street protest spread to los angeles and beyond average americans are demanding a refund and taking on greedy bankers but not at the l.a.p.d. has anything to say about it we'll have a live report from los angeles. and it's becoming class warfare from pepper spray to beatings hundreds of arrests the biggest u.s. march in years ending up with some of the worst police brutality so

a lot of you by wall street the street spreads with thousands joining the fight against corruption will we finally see some change in america. and from the money machine to the war machine thousands of protesters occupying freedom plaza right here in washington d.c. the fight against wars in afghanistan and iraq so can the masses make a difference when it comes to cutting the letairis spending. and as americans finally wake up and take to the streets politicians try to steal the message as a way that the way to promote and justify their own ideas will speak with every gallon marshal of the people book project out com to explore rather elites are trying to co-opt these movements. it's thursday october sixth eight pm in washington d.c. and christine friends out here watching our t.v. . a major day for

a movement that just keeps on growing we've been telling you for weeks now about how the occupy wall street movement in lower manhattan is shaping up it's going on on wall street itself and that protest nearly three weeks old now saw a huge sea change when it was joined yesterday by the unions a move that gave these protesters a surge in size and strength and one other thing that's helping the movement gain support is images of police brutality images like this. this video from last night shows police using their night sticks to try to keep protesters from crossing the barrios various videos like this are popping up everywhere and in washington d.c. today a major movement as we hit the ten year anniversary of the invasion of afghanistan thousands of people came out and are pledging support many of them pledging to camp out just down the street from our studios actually on freedom plaza in tell all the

troops returning home. will be talking about what's going on on the east coast but this video is from los angeles where a crowd of protesters gathered outside of a bank of america branch in downtown l.a. very early they marched into the bank and tried to cash a check for three six hundred seventy three billion dollars r.t. correspondent along the window without a protest and joins me now with some details ramona what is this all about. that's right christine well the protesters went in there with that blank check made out to california taxpayers a group california says that that is the amount that banks have taken away from the california economy and once again the occupy wall street was a very main focus of this of this manifestation that we saw people who were members

of occupy los angeles joined in the march we had worker unions we had churches here we had plenty of community organizers more than a thousand people took to the streets of los angeles demonstrating in front of several bags here in downtown los angeles wells fargo chase and ultimately their bank of america where we saw ten people get arrested for trespassing now like we said here in d.c. or like you reported earlier where in d.c. the protesters don't have any plans of letting up anytime soon that is the sentiment that we are getting here in los angeles where the demonstrators say that this is not just a one day thing this is just the launch of something bigger and see the protests happen in new york and in washington d.c. and think that this is just part of something much much larger and ramon we're showing this video that you just brought back to the studio. not long ago on and looks like there are quite

a few people outside that bank there certainly getting big i know you and i on both worked in southern california you don't see people protesting very often and it's pretty rare i got to ask you though ramona what happened when people went into that bank with that check. well you we could tell you that these protesters marched through a large part of downtown los angeles right in the middle of lunch time when all the highly paid bankers were on their lunch break and seen this in a of course they wanted to send a message and the people at the bank were quite surprised at what they saw and had no idea that these demonstrators were going to be so bold as to you know literally occupy the bank of america lobby and the police came in with their riot gear and eventually did take several people into custody but this is something that we're seeing just grow and grow a lot of these people in the past were not politically active but when they see

things like occupy los angeles occupy wall street and the signs that are being held up i mean these are grievances that so many people in america can. you know can relate to especially here in southern california especially here in the golden state where foreclosures and unemployment have been so bad and it just seems like so many people are sick of it and even though different people have different grievances they can agree that something needs to be done to change the system certainly ramona very good point there california one of the hardest hit areas in terms of unemployment in terms of people losing their homes i'm wondering if you got a chance to talk to some of those people outside the banks and what they say their reason is for coming out of course people coming out for different reasons but did you hear anything that surprised you stuck out to you. well today's march was primarily focused on foreclosed homeowners there are so many people who have gotten

their notice of addiction or just are so deep underwater but so many so many other people who are in need it or not even homeowners can relate to them because they see these problems with banks that do not want to lend to small businesses they see these problems where financial institutions have such. you know such close political clout to washington d.c. and these are all messages that that scene intertwine between these protesters and that is why it seems like so many people can relate to it and so so many people are jumping into the cause certainly an interesting thing just real quick ramon what are you expecting in the coming days i know i spoke to people here in d.c. today who are setting up a tent they say they're not leaving until the troops come home from afghanistan on anything in terms of on a plan that you're hearing for occupy l.a. and a bank protest well the protest will be continuing for many more days like i said the organizers today said this is just the launch of something much

bigger there will be several more protests protest marches in the coming weeks i'll keep a los angeles the encampment that has taken over downtown los angeles is even receiving support from local politicians who say that the protesters can stay there as long as they want unlike the politicians in new york city who have been very heavy handed so we're not seeing any sort of end in sight that's true ramon i even heard about your mayor there in los angeles antonio giving out ponchos to people standing out there in the rain to share appreciate your reporting out there keep up the good work artie correspondent rimando went down. of course the heart of this movement is still in new york on wall street and it is now day twenty and this last week has seen a major surge in the number of people joining and any attention being paid to occupy wall street i think it's easy to forget but these pictures that we're seeing there not only be shown here they are being shown all around the world largely in part to

the global live stream being courted needed from the protests i want to talk to katie davidson now from our new york studio katie is the public relations coordinator at occupy wall street and is one of the people running the desk at the media center there. hey there katie i talk a little bit about your role and tell me exactly what you're doing down there in lower manhattan well first and foremost i think. a person but i have sort of a fallen into the role of corrugated media which includes live stream and production capacity is on the ground at occupy wall street and then also some of our press relations what is the live stream for those people who are unfamiliar with it live stream is basically a minute by minute live broadcasts that we have streaming from the ground it originated in madrid in the protests that were happening there and it was brought out there by a team that runs global revolution and we have trained to use it and basically we

are able to stream with three different cameras everything that's happening around years from general assembly to our protests and it really works as a tool to keep people you know it's really like help with the participatory elements of our movement you said this started in madrid to these people actually come from spain to new york to sort of help you guys work this all out. yes it's a gruesome group of activists that have been active in a lot of different protest movements sort of around the world but they came out to help us set up the live stream in new york and now they're helping to build it in cities around the united states certainly interesting this truly is becoming an international effort as we've seen protests also sort of spark up around the world as well i want to get your take on it the way the mainstream media has been covering this i know that you've done some interviews and you've been referred to sort of as a spokes person but it seems to me that you're not comfortable with being a spokesperson for occupy wall street why is that. in the participatory

democracy is really about something that i think that we aren't used to talking about really is a leader in a list movement so in that sense we are free of leaders we really are free of spokespeople as well there are a bunch of us who have sort of been on the ground since day one who are privy to more information than maybe some other people are and that's why we've been talking to the press more but i can only ever speak for myself and i think that's why the spokesperson thing is a little uncomfortable yeah you're not speaking for the whole movement i guess you're speaking for yourself or the home or regarding the mainstream media though i'm sure you probably haven't had a lot of chance chances to turn on the television but on have you gotten a sense that first of all the coverage has changed as the movement has grown and what are your gripes with the way that the mainstream media has covered this. well i mean i i really actually because i'm on the ground live streaming all the time

and running our media production center i really probably have the last person who knows what mainstream is actually covering but i know i think in the beginning it was sort of everybody was waiting to see if this was going to be something serious and it seems like as more unions and community groups have gotten involved people have started taking us a little more seriously i think in general i mean stream media bloggers and you know a message down a little bit or orders or house trouble with things that are sort of outside of the box you know what we're doing right now is is revolutionary in the sense of that is something that hasn't been done before you know that we're sort of learning as we go along and it feels like they're trying to define us in a traditional sense which really doesn't work you know such distinct points to heart even if they've same thing about a lot of major protest movements throughout history that sort of started less organized and sort of changed and grew together as they went on i want to get your take you said you've been down there since the first day how has this movement

changed what have you seen evolve there on the ground. i mean more than anything it's just become incredibly it's grown in numbers i mean and that definitely changes the dynamic on the ground it's it's really been inspiring it's been a really inspiring process to be a part of i can i flew out from l.a. on the red eye on the sixteenth and michelle just to sort of document the process. and by the third day i was just fully in it and wanting to be a part of it and wanting to help and be of service and anywhere and so i don't know i mean more than anything i think that there is that feeling that this is really going to be something that could be groundbreaking that could really change you know the world. yeah you know we were just showing some fall from pictures from los angeles from your hometown but this is you know being energized there as well the people surrounded this bank of america today. and as somebody who's in charge

though of the media aspect of this i want to talk to you about some pictures that are really being shown a lot especially in the last twenty four hours and that is pictures of the police what are you witnessing there from this how does this fit into the story. i mean as an independent journalist i actually have my own sort of run in with the police i was arrested on the brooklyn bridge last week and then seven hundred other people. yeah what were some one hundred other people as i was filming and so were our live stream critters i was also knocked down by a police officer on the front lines and me in union square protests and i think it's raised a lot of interesting questions about what the role of independent journalism is you know as we sort of move forward. i mean i know that on the brooklyn bridge there were a couple times reporters that were arrested as well but you know it's it's a little frustrating that we are never afforded any of the protection that the

mainstream media would be given because ultimately we are there documented something that is happening certainly this is being recorded a lot thanks in part to things like twitter and think people like you independent journalists who are there who don't necessarily have a press pass that says the new york times or a.b.c. or c.n.n. but certainly you're there on the front lines or more so than a lot of others want to thank you for joining us tonight katie davidson from the occupy wall street media center. and from wall street to freedom plaza right here in washington d.c. a new movement with a similar message sparked today here and this protest has been in the making for several months but it launched today to mark the tenth anniversary of the invasion of afghanistan thousands are rallying to demonstrate against seemingly never ending wars abroad i like occupy wall street they're speaking out against corporate greed and corruption and a government they say allows all of this to happen aren't you correspondent was there to capture it all.

thousands unite out freedom plaza demanding that politicians take notice our demands our tax the billionaires tax the corporations stop dumping sixty five percent of just pressured every spend it into the war machine protesters come from throughout the nation both the old and the young some with very personal reasons for demonstrating my sense about to be deployed for the fifth time and you know we're just so sick and tired of this war you know those of us that have leverage in the military family as one of those who have fallen out of the upper middle class and. college prospects are low these makeshift cardboard homes symbolized by countless homes foreclosed during the economic downturn the death of a president and millions and millions of homeowners around the united states who are now homeless and this protester says he represents millions of young graduates

now jobless and shackled by college debt the next generation of our brightest youngest most passionate minds are graduating in facing a lifetime of indentured servitude they say their message is clear stop reckless spending on wars abroad and stop corporate corruption which they say profits at the expense of ninety nine percent of the population just fed up fed up with the inaction of our government to prosecute wall street crooks. fed up with the banks toure's that made their wealth here that are taking their wealth sure. do not. yet. and what the occupy wall street protests sweeping across the nation this protest could help to make their voice louder and they are want these these this national freak out occupation is demonstrations which. reaching out consciously to each other for

solidarity. probably happening here is a better just the beginning of the plan to occupy d.c. and that can at least orenthal politicians elected out of the cops largely not more than oversee it put an end to corporate corruption right here. in washington let's start. a lot of people in town for october two thousand and eleven and here's one of the videos that was used to recruit people to come to this october as the u.s. war in afghanistan enters its second decade in a federal austerity budget slashes social programs a once in a generation protest movement the good and evil from all over the country will begin a prolonged occupation of freedom plaza in washington d.c. and like madison wisconsin like tell us where we are not leaving. well earlier i

spoke to somebody who is a part of this idea that israel cartoonist columnist and author ted rall i asked him to tell me a little bit more about this movement and what those involved hope to achieve. well the american left has been essentially asleep for the last forty years and since nine eleven we've been waiting for the for the reawakening well the arc of the financial crisis that began in two thousand and eight has weakened has woken people up and now the question is how things are going to unreliable in terms of the system politically militarily economically so looking for a new future a lot of people are scared but a lot of people see an opportunity to take our country in a new direction so the occupy wall street movement the october two thousand and eleven movement they're part of a whole new approach demonstrating in the past what we would do is we would show up at ten o'clock in the morning get a parade permit march around and chant slogans and hold signs and then at five

o'clock in the afternoon we politely went home and the media clapped because there were no arrests and there was hardly even any litter left on the street given what i understand there is that there's permits being given this time around for tense people are going to be sleeping down there is that right that's right we are not leaving until our demands are met and our primary demand is immediate withdrawal from afghanistan of all american soldiers and mercenaries some people are going to be sleeping right down the street from our studios in freedom plaza that i'm going to be sleeping there tonight while the intel troops until there's a plan for troops to withdraw from afghanistan not a plan we want withdrawal in other words we need to see the troops leaving wow. to my knowledge today there's not even a plan in place from the white house to remove it seems you could be down there for a long time it could take a while i don't live in new york and i do not have a return ticket to talk a little bit about sort of those loud voices that i think a lot of people in the progressive side say have been sort of dominating the discussion of the tea party and how you see there's or if you see this as my

rebuttal or an answer well i think everybody's got a different point of view on the tea party phenomenon among those of us on the left personally last year i wrote a book called the anti-american manifesto that discussed the. the party phenomenon and i try to explain that those of us on the left should be reaching out to the core group of tea party people who understand that something is wrong but they're blaming the wrong people they blame the poor they blame illegal immigrants but illegal immigrants and the poor are being exploited as are the rest of us ninety nine percent of americans so we need to join forces with them and fight the real system which is the politicians who belong to the corporations so it's interesting i was talking to van jones the other day on who has just started his rebuild the dream organization he was at the take back the american dream conference and he said you know i'm not mad at the tea party for being so loud and it asked for being quiet and wondering how you and others planned on being heard and what you plan to

do i mean certainly camping out for a long time is a statement but what else is in the works here well a revolution cannot be copied it cannot be cut and pasted so originally when the october two thousand and eleven coalition communicate other the idea was we're going to not leave this is not going to be polite we're not going to ask permission and we're going to try to replicate what happened in tahrir square but of course even that's problematic because look at what happened in egypt they haven't closed the deal they still have the military to contend with so it shows the difficulty of trying to overthrow a corrupt regime here in the united states the regime's infinitely more corrupt and more dangerous than and certainly more powerful than the mubarak regime was in egypt so we're taking out a lot so basically the occupy wall street people. sort of got there first and at first there was kind of this reaction among us all to people i'm forty eight years old but who are these kids you know they don't have demands they just want to show up and vote on them now and but they're doing exactly what we have to do there is

no left that organized in the united states there is co-opted left to move on dot org. michael moore is the in all these groups are mad some people are the. l g b t but the work within the democratic party. has to be outside of the democratic party we have to reject obama and the democrats because they are just commuter and that was editorial columnist and cartoonist ted rall. now as far as this occupy wall street movement taking place there's a lot of energy out there as we've seen but there is also growing concern that all of the new people who join some may come with the intention of trying to control the movement and among those concerned and to govern marshal object manager for the people's book project dot com as well to have a little earlier and asked him how he thinks the movement can continue without large groups taking part and donating money to help keep it funded. we're if you

want to see the revolution you have to be the revolution you can't just protest against same's you have to start creating new things and so there's for example at the wall street protests there is an effort to create a newspaper or the wall street protesters they use kickstarter dot com which promoted the idea and people just gave money and they raised twelve thousand dollars within a few hours and now they have a newspaper it kept out the foundations that kept out the ngos are kept out of this finding but i agree there is the fundamental issue that these people just don't have money and so this creates not the. impetus to protest but to create we have to create new systems new currency systems communal currencies these type of things remove these absurd ideas of debt interest inflation if we have to if we really wants freedom we have to understand all the systems and structures which are process because it's not whether you're left or right socialist

libertarian the struggle is against the institution itself whether that institution is the state the corporations wall street the paints the media etc it's the institutional structure itself which must be resisted against so the only way to do that is that people have to come together to discredit my system when simultaneously create a new system and at the top of the system that we're resisting against you have the monetary system the central banks the banks money itself inflation interest debt slavery so we have to resist against this create new monetary systems controlled by the people for the people and that answer a lot of these capel and this is a major criticism of this moment a lot of these people come from so many different kinds of places and they're fighting for so many different kinds of things so many issues is this is occupy wall street simply about making noise or is this about sparking real change because if it is it seems like those desired chains it changes need to be effective in fact

if we communicated. but i agree i mean time will tell whether or not this is about making noise or starting for real change but i think fundamentally what we're seeing here whether you're in egypt in the occupied territories in palestine in one during this or in america the struggle is the same as for liberation and until people realize that until people realize that freedom for one requires freedom for all then we won't be moving forward in any true direction for true liberation so it's the beginning of a struggle i mean we saw the rise of the arab spring. last december last january and just think of how far how much has happened within this one year so whether or not i don't think that we're walking by wall street will be the beginning and end of this struggle this is just the spark this is where we're seeing the growth and development of something new and this new society is true liberation it'll be

a long struggle we're in it for the long haul but if not now when victor hugo once said nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come but the time is now so we may as well act and that we may as must start to move the movements forward and not criticize it not dismiss it because you fear the qualification because you see soros and move on and out or coming into the fray i don't dismiss it you you know be a part of it express these concerns so that it be avoided cooperation so that it may be a blade being controlled and steered into a reformist leaderless state and systemically safe ave now as they enter gavin marshall project manager for the people's book project dot com. as uncertainty continues to grow here at home the outlook abroad continues along the same path this week marks the ten year anniversary of the war in afghanistan and as it

continues on to its eleventh year two americans really know how much has been at stake while to answer that question r.c. broadcast journalism triano said oh well on to the streets to find out. as the u.s. marks ten years since the start of the war in afghanistan and prepares to enter the eleventh i want to a place where people go to remember wars gone by to find out just how much the actually know about afghanistan how long we've been in afghanistan. seventy years five years i would say twenty eight ten years i think we've been there since september twelfth two thousand and one is that a ten year i'm going to say eleven would you have to have you know i guesstimate of how many troops we have there right now no i don't know maybe two hundred thousand i don't know offhand i don't know i want to say six ballots for the democrats are. going to dance and. i would say more than grover a hundred thousand i'm not even the cheaper gas down

a lot and how many men do you think we've lost so far we lost a neighbor boy to the three thousand searching hundred thirteen hundred fourteen more than a thousand i don't know the numbers are high they're high but i have lost count to man the number of it running over it's been way too many and way too many lots lots too many to me with yeah way too many ten years in a lot of lives yes too many lives i think we're just this plan to get out well despite being a little bit hazy our numbers american seem to be saying the same thing you've lost too many and maybe it's time we leave afghanistan reporting from washington i might run a set of r.t. and that is going to do it for this evening but for more on the stories we covered go to our team dot com slash usa or check out our youtube page it's youtube dot com slash r t america.