either of them are the. oldest six. well i'm sergeant in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture tens of thousands on the streets of new york thousands more on the streets of d.c. and ninety nine percent movement is picking up steam solutions going and how do we get here plus according to the president republicans are faced with a choice that could help create millions of jobs in america or they could let their million or billionaire employees off the hook from paying taxes so will the right wing choose what's best for the nation or what's best for their reelection or frankly what's best for their buddies and thousands of hispanic families are

fleeing the state of alabama so what it's going on there all of the answer coming. you need to know this the occupy wall street movement swelled with least twenty thousand people yesterday as demonstrators he simply marched through manhattan alongside throngs of unionized workers but as the sun went down and demonstrators attempted to take their march to wall street another police crackdown it's using pepper spray and swinging baton as police prevented protesters from accessing wall street and they also closed the wall street subway stop is that's what the bank's toure's bought when j.p. morgan's c.e.o. jamie diamond ordered a four point six million dollars donation to the new york police department all in all does were reportedly arrested capping off its

a mulcher was eighteen straight day days of occupation lower manhattan and the movement marches on today the nation's capital most of the next wave of the ninety nine percent movement as thousands gathered in d.c. as freedom plaza marched to the capitol building calling for an end to the wars and an end to wall street's dominance of our economy and as the occupiers who marched past the white house president obama was himself forced to weigh in on the. obviously i've heard of it i've seen it on television i think it expresses the frustrations that the american people feel that we had the biggest financial crisis since the great depression huge collateral damage all throughout the country all across main street and yet you're still seeing some of the same folks right to do responsibly. trying to fight efforts to crack

down on abusive practices that got us in this problem in the first place so yes i think people are frustrated and. you know the protesters are. giving voice to a more broad based frustration about how our financial system works for the latest on today's demonstrations and what happened last night at new york city and joined here in the studio by ashley sanders a writer activist and community organizer with he's for uprising or and ariel's yvonne who is a d.c. activist who is at the demonstration here today and in new york kristin winters back she's a freelance writer editorial assistant at alter net welcome to all of you great to have you all this. let me start with kristen if you know if that's ok kristen needs free media cuts you covered a lot of the march today but her yesterday but after steve jobs died that just kind of this sucked all the media air out of the room and the police riot if you want to

call it that new york didn't get much coverage i'm curious can you describe what happened and you know for for a listener or for our viewers meant out of seeing that and and what today has been the response to the. well about twenty thousand of us marched first actually a large group of people marched from liberty plaza to foley square where then an even larger group of people what people are saying was twenty thousand marched back from foley square to liberty plaza and it was incredibly peaceful and large and just full of energy and just people coming together to stand up for what they believe in which is the right to have a job and participate in a fair economy and then once we got back to liberty plaza the energy was still strong you know michael moore was speaking reverend billy was there and people were getting ready to march on wall street to go down and confront the corporations that

have contributed to the crisis that we're in and we were ready to continue with a peaceful march but the police refused to let it happen on the corner of broadway broadway and wall street they started putting up barriers and arresting people. and things just started to turn violent as people tried to decide what they would do to get around the barriers and how to have this march cops responded with pepper sprays and baton and then next thing you know. there are conflicts breaking out of the park as well as down the street wall street. and really if if we had just been able to march peacefully if the demonstrators could have shown wall street that you know they're sick of what they're doing and they're here to stand up so then the violence but enough. everything would have been over a lot quicker but instead the police had to interfere and people were hurt and people were arrested three more let's let's hope. suttles down from here. actually

ariel curious what was d.c. like today ariel. do you see the energy was really positive really peaceful ivory one really excited to come together and have their voices heard so far there hasn't been any. any violence or interference that i know of. just really people wanting to speak out it seems seems actually to be the. you know new york has been cooking for three weeks and then you throw into that a four point six million dollars gift from the bank stores. and the bad press that tony belong to all this kind of stuff i mean there's there's a lot of history there there's not and that history doesn't exist here yet that history is being written right now how is it being. it's it's already been written in some ways for many many many people in america they have no future right now i

can honestly environmentally whatever way you want to look at it and they're coming to d.c. bringing that history or they're here in d.c. and they've lived in d.c. and they have that history and the history that needs to be written is that people need to believe that mass democratic peaceful movement is possible and when they see that happening as they saw it happening in new york then they'll come out and not support it because it will guide their imagination and so that's the history that remains to be written my producer for my radio show was down at one of the parks here in chicago last week and they were doing a anti-corporate personhood occupation so there's like different occupations going on and different protests going on so actually there. i really didn't state it right there has been some activity going on here in d.c. pretty continuously but this is just where do we go from here your sense of this. i think we the people are continuing to occupy i mean i today as i was here in d.c. was getting messages from people all over the country and all over the world that

are listening that are paying attention but are saying we want to be heard in our local towns and cities too. and i think that it's it's a movement that's just beginning and people are standing up and. i think people are going to keep talking until they're heard and so we feel like something is changed until somebody responds from from the government from corporations until we see some change and think i don't think that people are going to go away quietly anymore and it's spreading this is spreading all across the nation now we've got several dozen cities where there's major occupy occupy movements going on christine in new york city going forward is this was the sense today they hunkered down was a fight back was it time to time to you know do some more nonviolence training i mean or or not i mean where do you see that gone as the most mature of these movements i think that after after yesterday what people are realizing is that

as this grows the organization needs to. and they need to find a way to be able to communicate en mass with thousands of people because that was really the problem yesterday was that they weren't prepared for that number of people and that was a concern that had been voiced before and it's not the issue now is not how to hanker down and stop this but how to push forward successfully without the kind of confusion and violence that erupted yesterday ashley the here in d.c. you know congressman de fazio was on my radio show today other politicians are starting to come out labor unions came out earlier in the week it's like the parade got big enough but now the institutional folks are coming in and saying hey this is my parade too which you know i think is a good thing that's that's how we got civil rights in the sixty's for example but what's the what's the sense going forward. actually look let me rephrase that

in all the calls i was taking on the radio today i was there was this really mixed bag of some people saying you know we're really pure we're just the movement we don't want these folks and then there are people saying no no we're the movement and the movement has to infect those folks and there's going to be real change is there any kind of sense forming here in d.c. about this now i think that for a very long time people on the left have gone about getting power by going to someone powerful and saying please defend us please stand for us and we'll are various everything we stand for so that you can get elected and then we'll be disappointed when you disappoint us but the real way to move and create power is to be exactly who you are and be that way so for medically and so powerfully that the politicians have no choice but if they don't if they don't do it we're looking for going to metaphorically anyway kick their butts and it will come down and get arrested and sleep with us then they're in our movement but if they don't then they're not it's next thank you all for being with us thank you and. we'll continue

to follow this movement closely since most of the media rest of me doesn't seem to to want. still. there would be the good the bad of the very very food mistily ugly the good reverend fred shuttlesworth. media focused on the death of steve jobs yesterday reverend shuttlesworth passed away without a whole lot of folks no to see those impact on american life may have been far more profound steve jobs he was arrested beaten nearly murdered several times as he finally marched on for civil rights and equality and martin luther king called shuttlesworth one of the nation's most courageous freedom fighters shuttlesworth

was nine hundred eighty nine years old and our nation owes him a debt of gratitude but that herman cain is the the peace shop owner german republican front presidential front runner declared the occupy wall street movement a conspiracy to destroy voters from the pale tells his brother obama and last night he had more words for the people demonstrating in lower manhattan or d.a.p. can call the protesters un-american and so they're protesting against the ones who create jobs. wall street creates the jobs even though right wall street right now is laying off thousands of people and as a result they're gambling in two thousand and eight. millions of jobs but i don't know why cain is defending them through his herman cain a wall street both have something common both their policies kill american jobs and the very very ugly brian moynihan the c.e.o. of bank of america defended his banks decision to screw over its customers by charging a five dollars debit card fee by saying we have a right to make

a profit as in we have a right to gouge our customers pockets to please our millionaire. stockholders and c.e.o.'s is the same as b.p. saying they have a right to make a profit by skirting safety regulations or the koch brothers saying they have a right to make a profit by doing business with iran for the profit motive corporations are running roughshod over our common says freeze as much money out of the middle class as they can it's just that simple when they screw up they get tens of billions of dollars in bailout cash like bank of america did back in two thousand and eight in the bay that very same people are screwing over today taxpayers it's a very very ugly. after the break more than two thousand hispanic children are too afraid to go to school in alabama i'll tell you about the new discriminatory law that has minorities living in fear. that drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions break through it through to be made who can you trust no one who is in view with

the global machinery to see where we had it state controlled capitalism is called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more. well the news around the occupy wall street movement has been focused on new york

city this is quickly becoming a national phenomenon hundreds of people are continue to occupy chicago the second straight week demonstrations thousands took it was streets in boston and philadelphia this week hundreds more are gathered in louisville and wichita and hartford los angeles city hall is going home to more than two hundred people motivated by the occupy wall street protesters in charlotte marched on the local bank of america over the weekend and police clashed violently with occupiers in seattle like scenes in denver portland i was city and miami florida have also seen it flickers of their own occupy demonstrations and sixty five people came together in anchorage alaska today or yesterday in solidarity with the growing ninety nine percent what started in lower manhattan is now spreading and it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger so the question is how do we get here how did americans reach a tipping point where they're taking to the streets in some cases demanding a revolution for more i'm joined by any coral's sociate editor tom dispatch and

staff reporter for mother jones and from california joshua holland senior editor and editor of alter net and joshua welcome thanks for having great to have you both with us any you describe the elastic it is the last decade can use and you can you tell us what you mean. for most of the bush admin a stray. in the final two years after that two thousand and two thousand and ten we saw flat lining of the middle class you had the median income for middle class households and level off in fact dropped by about two thousand three thousand dollars you saw wages stagnated used to be completely eviscerated by the housing crisis and the financial crisis and really for the bottom ninety nine percent as we talked about it was sort of a wash or a bust for them there was nothing to no gain there's nothing to be proud about it really just you know if mr rated and you know most of american families and the one percent the one percent did pretty well you know you know the top twenty five hedge

fund managers made a billion or more just a year after the for each after the financial crisis in the stock market has rebounded to a degree and you see in the financial sector you know it's consolidated form do pretty darn well far better than the remaining ninety nine percent joshua one of the one of the things that i thought was most brilliant about the piece that you wrote alternate and and should every american should know is how different the income of the average american working family would be right now if the top one percent had not snatched all that cash from the reagan revolution forward if they weren't snatching snatching from the thirty's all the way up to the eighty's in other words if things are just kind of stayed the same it's also about them. you know i i'm a nerdy guy so i went back and i tried to figure out the statistics about what kind of share of the income of our national income was being taken by the people in the top one percent versus the other ninety nine percent which is of course the slogan

of this movement and it's so fascinating to see that from the end of world war two all the way through nine hundred eighty you can choose any year within that the top one percent took in ten percent of the national income and during the reagan administration it was a shift so that by the time that he left office in one nine hundred eighty eight the top one percent were then taking in fifteen and a half percent of the national income and the other ninety nine percent were sharing the remaining eighty four and a half percent but then it even accelerated beyond that so if you look at the ten years from one thousand nine hundred ninety nine through two thousand and eight which is the end of this dataset. the top one percent during that period took him twenty point zero four percent of our national income twice as much and the point that i make in the piece is that they didn't become twice as smart or twice as hard working or twice as good looking and it was a result of

a series of very specific policies that led to a redistribution redistribution of the national wealth upwards so you know we could talk about trade policy the various policies of the federal reserve the dollar policy the union labor laws a very big part of the story but the real the real conclusion that i get is that you know we hear a lot about how this movement may not have as focused a message as one might want but i actually think that we are the ninety nine percent is a message that implies quite a sophisticated understanding of the economic problems we're facing. and very very well. and he isn't isn't this all and by. not just a question of mix or clinton nominees but the whole promise of the reagan revolution that had that has been just going full steam right up until today right to the chasm between the very very wealthy one percent or even the top point one

percent and the rest of the population has not just been in the works for the past decade it's been in the works for for many decades really he said since the reagan revolution in the policies enacted by his administration and it's been growing ever since and i think the occupy wall street movement just like of course as there was constant you know the through line between these two is this sense of you know growing economic economic inequality of economic injustice and then nothing is happening it's getting worse rather than getting better and it to me that's really the the thread that combines these two protests joshua the i.m.f. just came out with a report saying the wealth inequality in not only has elements of unfairness you know that all the obvious things like that about it but it also. quality also produces reduces the ability of an economy to grow is that comport with what you understand it really does i mean you know we hear a lot about

a lot in conservatives about how the wealthy are you know job creators and wealth producers the opposite is true when you look at the upward redistribution of wealth from a broad middle class to a very narrow few at the top you know we have an economy that is a consumer based economy for better or worse and that seventy percent of our economic activity is they start consuming spending and when you see such a lot cited share go to those at the top we know from various studies that if you give a tax cut for example to a very wealthy household what they do is they don't spend it and they put it in a bank and you know when you see that the fundamental core problem in our economy right now is. the lack of demand it's demand that creates jobs you can really see this relationship between increasing inequality and a much more vulnerable economy in terms of even being vulnerable to shocks you know

there was a report out last week that sound that a third of americans would not be able to make their next grand or mortgage payment if they lost their job and one of the things that i found so interesting about that is that it's not just a very poor people making one hundred thousand ten percent of them reported that they did not have enough money put away to survive one month you know our world war two savings rate that is the amount of money we were able to put away from checks for a rainy day for disaster was about eight percent and that declined dramatically at the same time as our way to started to stagnate so you know americans left americans tapped out without reserves and without a lot of money to spend on goods and services that drive economic growth and create jobs and story and he joshua thank you both for being here thank you appreciate it thanks tom we are now from economic injustice to social injustice is a max mass exodus under way of hispanic families fleeing the state of arizona and

state republican lawmakers passed a radical anti immigration law that went into effect last thursday thousands of hispanic children haven't shown up for school because their families are afraid they may be profiled and detained just because they don't look american republican senator jeff sessions from alabama was asked about these consequences of this immigration law earlier today on the laura ingram show and we have the censors. oh do you think it's bad that all these kids are not in school now all these hispanic kids have disappeared from the schools do you think that's a bad thank youyou say to you. when you go out of situations you're occur for decades in which the large numbers of people in the country illegally. are unfortunate consequence of turns out the vast majority of these children who are free to go to school now are not here illegally and have every right to be in

this country as was a young many a man who was one of the very first people the state of alabama detained as a result it was a new law hammad ali talat was picked up by police last friday and since he didn't have his papers on him he was locked up all weekend until his lawyer showed up to prove that he was indeed legally in the united states so is this the type of immigration reform we should be a breeze seen america reform children being afraid to attend school and people who are in america legally being locked up for the weekend because of the color of their skin a man to be able to raise me no she is an assistant editor systems and i think progress or men are welcome to be here thank you great to have you here with us we've seen americans thrown thrown in jail we've seen thousands being intimidated in school down in alabama is there going to be a backlash to this either at the at the at the grassroots level on the ground sort of you know occupy wall street or in the ballot box i'm not sure what you'll see

there i know there's been discussion people mention the idea that there should be a refuse and laws that states that when it comes to school that schools when children are in a row need to check immigration status so it doesn't students who are presently enrolled or they are not taking the status or it released are not supposed to be but when someone rolls they're supposed to be so what they're saying is that you know maybe maybe people need to refuse to present their child's birth certificate when they enroll in school maybe they need to show some way that they are showing. they stand against the officers basically and so i'm i'm not sure what you'll see from it but i know it's one of those things that more than anything else this is a law that's hurting it hurts children or inserts families it's hurting working farmers who have been who have lost their workers who are picking the crops in their fields while president obama has deported and walked up more elite illegal immigrants groats. than george bush did you know it's it's incredible and still the right wingers are beating on him and still they're rolling out these these these

laws that basically demonize illegal immigrants at the same time that illegal immigration to the united states has dried up in fact there's an exodus from the united states in many states. really what's driving all this is there were some you know racist machine cranking in the background the you know for partisan gain or is there fear as a result of the economy here what in your research would. laugh at it but it's not i don't think it's necessarily for my family at least it racism is thriving get but when you look at it people think ok there are people who have jobs they could go to what they see as american citizens but i mentioned the farmers earlier you have there are some jobs that i believe some of the alabama politicians who supported this and said that it's a great opportunity that now they'll be able to give jobs alabamians but however now you've got that these people are taking these jobs that now farmers have no one to pick their crops in their heels or want to work for three bucks an hour these

are jobs that american citizens were not taking any way that these are jobs that to some degree you need the immigrants who are here working and doing come or we need to pay better yes you know and which which is a whole nother issue. i'm curious there's a there's a amazing and i think largely invisible to progressives although conservatives are quite well aware of it. hispanic right wing infrastructure radio infrastructure. it's been built in the united states radio stations are being released and purchased all over the country flip to spanish language and right wing radio talk show hosts doing right wing his spanish language imitations of rush limbaugh are on the air. are you hearing anything about that i mean i mean the radio industry so i i read about this constantly are you hearing about that it is that affecting this this dialogue i haven't heard about that i'm not sure if it is driving the style log but i think what it what it is coming down to in alabama at least that right

now they're trying to clarify what this while it's doing it it's they've put it out there it is huge sweeping how it will affect workers and families and the biggest way that you were saying it right now is with children being scared and withdrawing from school because either they're afraid about their schools checking their status or their parents are afraid to stay in the state that they feel like they need to leave the state to ensure that they said that they do not risk deportation and i'm not sure if the radios are driving it but i think it's one of those things if nothing else it's a matter of who's going to be able to explain the message and who's going to be able to explain this well most clearly is that people don't have to live in fear i think the radio thing is more like let's just bring in a new generation of republican voters and that's really what. i mean thanks so much for being here thank you very nice to meet you america has always had a streak of racism and anti immigrant nativism republicans like ronald reagan used to use dog whistles you know for example giving his first speech of his candidacy in philadelphia mississippi were three civil rights workers had been murdered and

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