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games flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. china operations are today. hello i'm sergeant in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture tens of thousands on the streets of new york thousands more on the streets of d.c. the ninety nine percent movement is picking up steam solutions going and how do we . plus according to the president republicans are faced with a choice it helped create millions of jobs in america or they could live there really are billionaire buddies off the hook from paying taxes so will the right wing choose what's best for the nation or what's best for their reelection or
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frankly what's best for their buddies and thousands of hispanic families are fleeing the state of alabama so what is going on there all of the answer coming. you need to know this the occupy wall street movement swelled to at least twenty thousand people yesterday as demonstrators peaceably marched through manhattan alongside throngs of unionized workers but as the sun went down and demonstrators attempted to take their march to wall street another police crackdowns using pepper spray and swinging baton as police prevented protesters from accessing wall street and they also closed the wall street subway stop is that's what the banks there is bought when j.p. morgan's c.e.o. jamie diamond ordered a four point six million dollars donation to the new york police department all in
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all does sort reportedly arrested capping off a tumultuous eighteen straight day days of occupation war but the movement marches on today the nation's capital goes to the next wave of the ninety nine percent movement as thousands gathered in d.c.'s freedom plaza and marched to the capitol building calling for an end to the wars and an end to wall street's dominance of our economy and as the occupiers who marched past the white house president obama was himself forced to weigh in on. obviously i've heard of it i've seen it on television i think it expresses the frustrations of the american people feel. that we had biggest financial crisis since the great depression huge collateral damage all throughout the comfort all across main street and yet you're still seeing some of the same folks who actively responsibly. trying to
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fight efforts to crack down on abusive practices that got us in this problem in the first place so yes i think people are frustrated and. you know the protesters are. giving voice to a more broad based frustration about how our financial system works for the latest on today's demonstrations and what happened last night new york city and joined here in the studio by ashley sanders a writer activist and community organizer with peaceful uprising or an aerial ziva who is a d.c. activist who is at the demonstration here today and in new york christine quinn is back she's a freelance writer editorial assistant at alter net welcome to all of you good to have you all with us. let me start with kristen if you don't if that's ok kristen the mainstream media cut you covered a lot of the march today but her yesterday but after steve jobs died that just kind
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of sucked all the media air out of the room and the the police riot if you want to call it that new york didn't get much coverage i'm curious and you describe what happened and you know for for a listener for our viewers a minute i've seen that and and what today has been the response to the. well about twenty thousand of us marched first actually a large group of people marched from liberty plaza foley square with an even larger group of people what people are saying was twenty thousand marched back from foley square to liberty plaza and it was incredibly peaceful and large and just full of full of energy and just people coming together to stand up for what they believe in which is the right to have a job and participate in a fair economy and then once we got back to liberty plaza the energy was still strong you know michael moore was speaking reverend billy was there and people were
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getting ready to march on wall street to go down and confront the corporations that have contributed to the crisis that we're in and we were ready to continue with a peaceful march but the police refused to let it happen on the corner of broad broadway and wall street they started putting up barriers and arresting people. and then things just started to turn violent as people tried to decide what they would do to get around the barriers and how to have this march cops responded with pepper sprays and baton and then next thing you know. there are conflicts breaking out of the park as well as down the street wall street. and really if if we had just been able to march peacefully if the demonstrators could have shown wall street that you know they're sick of what they're doing and they're here to stand up. then the violence but enough. everything would have been over a lot quicker but instead the police had to interfere and people were hurt and people were arrested for more let's let's hope it settles down from here. actually
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ariel curious what was d.c. like ariel. d.c. the energy was really positive really peaceful everyone really excited to come together and have their voices heard so far there hasn't been any. any violence or interference that i know of. just really people wanting to speak out it seems seems actually. be. you know new york has been cooking for three weeks and then you throw into that a four point six million dollars gift from the bank stores and. the bad press that so many belong to got all this kind of stuff i mean there's there's a lot of history there there's not in that history doesn't exist here yet were that history is being written right now how is it being. it's it's already been written in some ways for many many many people in america they have no future right now i
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can nominally environmentally whatever way you want to look at it and they're coming to d.c. bringing that history or they're here in d.c. and they've lived in d.c. and they have that history and the history that needs to be written is that people need to believe in a crowded peaceful movement it's possible and when they see that happening as they saw it happening in the new york then they'll come out on the support it because it will wipe their imaginations so that's the history that remains to be written my producer for my radio show was john one of the perks year and last week they were doing it anti-corporate personhood occupation so there's like different occupations going on and different protests going on so actually there. i really didn't state it right there has been some activity going on here in d.c. pretty continuously but this is just where do we go from here your your sense of. i think we the people are continuing to occupy i mean i today as i was here in d.c.
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was getting messages from people all over the country and all over the world that are listening that are paying attention that are saying we want to be heard in our locals towns and cities too. and i think it's it's a movement that's just beginning and people are standing up and. i think people are going to keep talking until they're heard and so we feel like something is changed until somebody responds from government and corporations and so we see some change and i think i don't think that people are going to go away quietly anymore and it's spreading this is spreading all across the nation now we've got several dozen cities where there's major occupy occupy movements going on christine in new york city going forward is this was the sense today hunkered down was a fight back was it time to time to you know do some more nonviolence training or not i mean were do you see that don't as the most mature of these movements
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i think that after after yesterday what people are realizing is that as this grows the organization needs to tighten and they need to find a way to be able to communicate en mass with thousands of people because that was really the problem yesterday was that they weren't prepared for that number of people and that was a concern that had been voiced before and it's not the issue now is not how to hanker down and stop this but how to push forward successfully without the kind of confusion and violence that erupted yesterday actually the here in d.c. you know congressman de fazio was on my radio show today the other politicians are starting to come out labor unions came out earlier in the week it's like the parade got big enough you know the institutional folks are coming in and saying hey this is my parade too which you know i think is a good thing and so that's how we got civil rights in the sixty's for example but. what's the what's the sense going forward. actually look let me rephrase that
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in all the calls i was taking on the radio today i was there was this really mixed bag and some people saying no we're really pure we're just a movie we don't want these folks and then there are people saying oh no we're the movement and the movement has to infect those folks if there's going to be real change is there any kind of sense forming here in d.c. about this now life think for a very long time people on the left have gone about getting power by going to someone powerful and saying please defend us please stand for us and we'll raise everything we stand for so that you can get elected and then be disappointed when you disappoint us but the real way to move and create power is to be exactly who you are and be that way so for medically and so powerfully that the politicians have no choice it's all of the if they don't if they don't do what we're looking for metaphorically anyway kick their butts or it would come down and get arrested and sleep but that's been there in our movement but if they don't then there's not a point thank you all for being so i think you. will continue for all this movement
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closely since most of the media the rest of me doesn't seem to to want. just. that would be the good the bad of the very very fullest really ugly the good reverend fred shuttlesworth well the media focused on the death of steve jobs yesterday reverend shuttlesworth quietly passed away without a whole lot of folks no to see those impact on american life may have been far more profound steve jobs he was arrested beaten nearly murdered several times as he defiantly marched on for civil rights and equality and martin luther king called trouble's worth quote one of the nation's most courageous freedom fighters
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shuttlesworth was ninety eighty nine years old and our nation owes him a debt of gratitude the bad herman cain is the the peace shop owner turned republican front presidential front runner declared the occupy wall street movement a conspiracy to destroy the failed felt was his brother obama and last night he had more words for the people demonstrating in lower manhattan where d.a.p. can call the protesters on american and so they're protesting against the ones who create jobs right wall street creates the jobs even though right wall street right now is that laying off thousands of people and as a result they're gambling in two thousand and eight our economy lost millions of jobs but i know why cain is defending the truth is herman cain wall street both have something common both their policies kill american jobs and the very very ugly brian moynihan the c.e.o. of bank of america defended his bank's decision to screw over its customers by charging a five dollars debit card fee by saying we have a right to make
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a profit as in we have a right to gouge our customers pockets employees are millionaires. stockholders and c.e.o.'s is the same as b.p. saying they have a right to make a profit by security and safety regulations or the koch brothers saying they have a right to make a profit by doing business with iran for the profit corporations are running roughshod over our common says freeze as much money out of the middle class as they can it's just that simple and when they screw up they get tens of billions of dollars in bailout cash like bank of america did back in two thousand and eight in the bay that very same people who are screwing over today taxpayers that's a very very a. after the break more than two thousand hispanic children are too afraid to go to school in alabama i'll tell you about the new discriminatory law that has minorities living here down so. that drives the world of fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions
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it's completely break through get through to people made who can you trust no one who is human view and with a global missionary zeal where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more. well the news around the occupy wall street movement has been focused on new york
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city this is quickly becoming a national phenomenon hundreds of people all continue to occupy chicago the second straight week of demonstrations thousands took to the streets in boston and philadelphia this week under it's more of gathered in louisville and wichita and hartford essential city hall is going home to more than two hundred people motivated by the occupy wall street protesters in charlotte marched on the local bank of america over the weekend and police clashed violently with i.q. pyres in seattle like sims in denver portland i was city and miami florida have also seen the lakers of their own occupy demonstrations and sixty five people came together in anchorage alaska today or yesterday in solidarity with a growing ninety nine percent of what started in lower manhattan is now spreading and it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger so the question is how do we get here how did americans reach a tipping point where they're taking to the streets in some cases demanding a revolution for more i'm joined by any croll associate editor of time dispatch and
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staff reporter for mother jones and from california joshua holland senior editor and editor of alter net and joshua welcome thanks for having great to have you both with us any you describe the elastic it is the last decade can use and you can you tell us what you mean well for most of the bush administration. in the final two years after that two thousand and two thousand and ten we saw a flat lining of the middle class you had the median income for middle class household to level off in fact dropped by about two thousand three thousand dollars you saw wages stagnated used to be completely eviscerated by the housing crisis and the financial crisis and really for the bottom ninety nine percent as we talked about it was sort of a wash or a bust for them there was nothing to no game there was nothing to be proud about it really just you know if it's aerated and you know most of american families and the one percent the one percent did pretty well you know you know the top twenty five
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headphone managers made a billion or more just a year after the for each after the financial crisis and the stock market has rebounded to a degree and you seem to financial sector you know it's consolidated form do pretty darn well far better than the remaining ninety nine percent joshua one of the one of the things that i thought was most brilliant about the piece that you wrote internet and and should every american should know is how different the income of the average american working family would be right now if the top one percent had not snatched all that cash from the reagan revolution forward but they weren't snatching snatching from the thirty's although we have to be in other words if things are just going to stay the same and tell us about that. yes you know i am the nerdy guy so i went back and i tried to figure out the statistics about what kind of share of the income of our national income was being taken by the people in
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the top one percent versus the other ninety nine percent which is of course the slogan of this movement and it's so fascinating to see that from the end of world war two all the way through one thousand nine hundred eighty you can choose any year within that the top one percent turkey and ten percent of the national income and during the reagan administration it was a shift so that by the time that he left office in one nine hundred eighty eight the top one percent were then taking in fifteen and a half percent of the national income and the other ninety nine percent were sharing the remaining eighty four and a half percent but then it even accelerated beyond that so if you look at the ten years from one thousand nine hundred ninety nine through two thousand and eight which is the end of this dataset. the top one percent during that period took in twenty point zero four percent of our national income twice as much and the point i make in the piece is that they didn't become twice as smart or twice as hard
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working or twice as good looking it was a result of a series of very specific policies that led to a redistributed redistribution of the national wealth upwards so you know we could talk about trade policy the various policies of the federal reserve the dollar policy the union labor laws a very big part of the story but the real the real conclusion that i get is that you know we hear a lot about how this movement may not have as focused a message as one might want but i actually think that we are the ninety nine percent is a message that implies quite a sophisticated understanding of the economic problems we're facing. and for very well. and he isn't isn't this all and by. not just of bush an ominous mix but the whole promise of the reagan revolution that it has been just going full steam right up until today right to the chasm between the very very wealthy top one
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percent or even the top point one percent and the rest of the population has not just been in the works for the past decade it's been a work for for many decades really if you said since the reagan revolution in the policies enacted by his administration and it's been growing ever since and i think the the the occupy wall street movement just like the protests there was constant you know the through line between these two is this sense of you know growing economic economic inequality of economic injustice and then nothing is happening it's getting worse rather than getting better and it to me that's the really the the thread that combines these two protests josh where the i.m.f. just came out with a report saying the wealth inequality in not only has elements of unfairness you know that all the obvious things like that about it but it also that wealth inequality also produces a reduces the ability of an economy to grow in. court with what you understand it
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really does i mean you know we hear a lot about spin from conservatives about how well the are you know job creators and wealth producers he opposite is true when you look at the upward redistribution of wealth from a broad middle class to a very narrow few at the top you know we have an economy that is a consumer based economy for better or worse yet about seventy percent of our economic activity is based on consumer spending and when you see such a lopsided share go to those at the top we know from various studies that if you give a tax cut for example to a very wealthy household what they do is they don't spend it they put it in a bank and you know when you see that the fundamental core problem in our economy right now is. the lack of demand it's demand that creates jobs you can really see this relationship between increasing inequality and a much more vulnerable economy in terms of even being vulnerable to shocks you know
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there was a report out last week that found that a third of americans would not be able to make their next rent or mortgage payment if they lost their job and one of the things that i found so interesting about that is that it's not just the very poor people making one hundred thousand ten percent of them reported that they did not have enough money put away to survive one month you know are whose world war two savings rate that is the amount of money we were able to put away from our period checks for a rainy day for disaster was about eight percent and that declined dramatically at the same time as our wheat it started to stagnate so you know americans it's left americans tapped out without reserves and without a lot of money to spend on goods and services that drive economic growth and create jobs and story and he joshua thank you both for being here thank you appreciate it based on who we are now from economic injustice to social injustice is
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a max mass exodus underway of hispanic families fleeing the state of arizona and state republican lawmakers passed a radical anti immigration law that went into effect last thursday thousands of hispanic children haven't shown up for school because their families are afraid they may be profiled and detained just because they don't look america republican senator jeff sessions from alabama was asked about these consequences of this immigration law earlier today on a laura ingram show and give the censors. oh do you think it's bad that all these kids are not in school now all these hispanic kids are have disappeared from the schools do you think that's a bad thank you oh if. we we go out a situation for decades in which there are large numbers of people in the country illegally. it's not going. to have been put there are unfortunate consequences turns out the vast majority of these children who are afraid to go to school are
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not here illegally and have every right to be in this country as was a young many man who was one of the very first people instead of alabama detained as a result of this new law ali talat was picked up by police last friday and since he didn't have his papers on him he was locked up all weekend until was lawyer showed up to prove that he was indeed legally in the united states so is this the type of immigration reform we should be embracing america reform that leads to children being afraid to attend school and people who are in america legally being locked up for the weekend because of the color of their skin amanda beadle joins me now she is an assistant editor for notorious systems is with think progress dot org and a welcome good to be here thank you great to have you here with us we've seen americans thrown thrown in jail we've seen thousands being intimidated in school down in alabama is there going to be a backlash to this either at the at the at the grassroots level on the ground sort of like you know occupy wall street i think or the ballot box i'm not sure what
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you'll see there i know there's been discussion people mention the idea that there should be a refuse and laws that states that when it comes to school that schools when children enroll need to check immigration status so it doesn't students who are presently enrolled or they're not taking the status are not supposed to be but when someone rolls they're supposed to be so what they're saying is that you know me maybe people need to refuse to present their child's birth certificate when they enroll in school maybe they need to show some way that they are showing. they stand against this law as resistance basically and so i'm i'm not sure what you'll see from it but i know it's one of those things that one anything else this is a wall it's hurting it hurts children families it's hurting working farmers who have been who have lost their workers who are picking the crops in their fields. president obama has deported and locked up more elite illegal immigrants quotes. than george bush did you know it's it's incredible and still the right wingers are
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beating on him and still there are all of these these these laws that basically demonize illegal immigrants at the same time that illegal immigration to the united states has dried up in fact there's an exodus from the united states in many states . we're what's driving all this is that only some you know racist machine cranking in the background to you know for partisan gain or is there fear as a result of the economy here what in your research when they. laugh at it but it's going to i don't think it's necessarily. racism is driving it but when you look at it people think ok there are people who have jobs they could go to what they see as american citizens but i mention the farmers earlier you have there are some jobs that i believe some of the alabama politicians who supported this and said that it's a great opportunity that now they'll be able to get jobs alabamians but however now you've got that these people are taking these jobs that now farmers have no one to
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pick their crops in their field for three bucks an hour these are jobs that american citizens were not taking any way that these are jobs that to some degree you need the immigrants who are here working and doing time or we need to pay better yes you know and which which is a whole other issue. i'm curious there's a there's a amazing and i think largely invisible to progressives although conservatives are quite well aware of it. hispanic right wing infrastructure radio infrastructure. it's been built in the united states radio stations are being released and purchased all over the country flip to spanish language and right wing radio talk show hosts doing right wing is spanish language imitations of rush limbaugh are here. are you hearing anything about that i mean i mean the radio industry so i i read about this constantly are you hearing about that and is that affecting this this. i haven't heard about that i'm not sure if it is driving the style long but i think what it it what it is coming down to in alabama at least that right now
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they're trying to clarify what this law is doing that they've put it out there it is huge sweeping how will affect workers and families and the biggest way that you were saying it right now is with children being scared and withdrawing from school because either they're afraid about their schools checking their status or their parents are afraid to stay in the state that they feel like they need to leave the state to ensure that they said that they do not risk to deportation and i'm not sure if the radios are driving it but i think it's one of those things if nothing else it's a matter of who's going to be able to explain the message and who's going to be able to explain this well most clearly is that people don't have to live in fear i think that where you think it's more like let's just bring in a new generation of republican voters so that's really what anybody's i mean the thanks so much for being here very nice to meet you america has always had a streak of racism in me and immigrant nativism republicans like ronald reagan used to use dog whistles you know for example giving his first speech of his candidacy
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in philadelphia mississippi where three civil rights workers had been murdered and then using that speech to talk about states' rights now with these new immigration was the right wing has put away the dog whistles and embraced over racism. crazy alert crime ring ring four different sheriff's departments are investigating an amish community and after several reports that a group of amish people have been raking in the homes of others in the area and making off with locks of there are. six and six. of these are. not. clear according to the investigation the thieves claim they belong to the byrd olds .

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