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seven and. this is like ultimate plus is an insult to the i. am just programmed to respond to an economist. beaten down but not defeated the occupy wall street movement continues to gain even more momentum today the latter days screams of more they seem to be just missed by some but our t. is listening we are there in new york. and as protesters rally against wasteful government spending where has all the money gone we had overseas for some answers as the u.s. marks ten years in afghanistan plus this please do not receive you land in the seas. but as soldiers search for their home away from home is
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the u.s. getting too comfortable in a country it promised to leave perhaps as it goes for a multimillion dollar expansion at bagram air base. good evening it's friday october seventh it's five pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster and you're watching r.t. occupy wall street is still going on still going strong and not just new york but all over the country as you can see behind me in new york this is friday of the third week that we've seen protesters ranging from hundreds camping out to thousands on the streets speaking out against inequality in this country and grievances over the panel system directed at wall street now this movement continues to grow we've seen demonstrations in cities behind me like boston chicago and los angeles also dallas san francisco philadelphia we've seen
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a sympathetic movement protesting in washington d.c. this week going on right now and our viewers have been sending us stuff chad subtle meyer a viewer sent us these photos of occupy portland there's one saying the g.o.p. has a coke addiction co. being the koch brothers some criticism there what else did he send us i know we have some others obviously some criticism there over the ridge you can see quite a big crowd and i think there's one more we got from him sacrifice the rich don't know what that's getting at maybe taxes but nonetheless you can see the outrage that has fans not just from you know wall street and areas around it but all the way west and please send us your stuff because we want to see it we want to post it you can you can send it to us you can tweet us at r.t. america you can post it on our facebook or you can reply with videos on our you to comment because we want to see everything that's going on all over this country so as this is all still going on protesters are still in lower manhattan the corporate
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media today isn't paying too much attention maybe they've shown some shots here and there but more of the stories have have not been about that as you can see behind me this story occupy wall street despite being in the backyards of the major networks is not getting top billing archie interviewed hip hop artists holding probably though about occupy wall street he had this to say about the media our job in the media for to create a media critic were unhappy because there was. what would be you know what would he do this going to be a reason. and some mainstream media outlets are trying to brush off the movement as an artist and und bowcock regardless of the number they can get out there and our t.'s anastasio churkin our colleague in new york she went through that camp to see if there's any truth to that he had it. these are. people you know.
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accused of being i don't know kissed and disorganized the occupy wall street encounter and it's far from chaotic it is set up like a small village folk and up into the in sections way better organized than i thought it would be. they really have it set up so that there isn't a clear leader in the organization and the way that it's done but at the same guy. every part seems to be handled by someone a medical area staffed by volunteers provides on the spot assistance or comfort area supply sweaters and boy gets to keep demonstrators warm as the season gets chilly or while they don't need it sleeping bags pile up as the number of protesters who was bigger we just took the chinatown bus or if you're from richmond virginia. the kitchen providing a traditional american breakfast bread bagels and peanut butter and jelly plant foods are used to filter water here we have breakfast at seven thirty in the morning. breakfast foods bread cereal we have lunch. we have
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snacks considering continually throughout the day your dinner at seven thirty a media center has been broadcasting a live stream from day one of the protests for already three weeks videos film during clashes with police are posted online from these laptops you've got people company running in here i mean panicky you know adrenaline rush with cameras i got footage i got footage you know processing footage getting it online and simultaneously having people tweet you know in facebook when our social media using social media to. get the message out of what's happening as quick as possible right feeds of the protests are being followed by supporters across the u.s. and the world viewership really goes up as you keep a steady content you know provision information is also spread in more traditional ways the status board helps protesters keep up to date with author. developments state twenty one of occupy wall street's zero chance of rain the number of arrests
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to date at over eight hundred thirty four. a library area lets protesters relax and educate themselves what literature tastes fiction nonfiction magazines are going to keep searching and we've got c.d.'s d.v.d.'s ago drug documentaries hope people on wall street floyd's itself in the peaceful grassroots democratic movement without leaders there are just different decisions made by different groups if there is a if there is to be some decision that's going to supposedly speak on bart on behalf of everyone here that we need to have been a. general assembly need to be consensus on by everyone here all of the many cooks in the kitchen are here who call one thing the revolution of change in america is the future or two new very have it now from unrest at home like we're seeing on wall street the unrest abroad it is the tenth anniversary of the u.s. invasion of afghanistan otherwise known as operation enduring freedom and president
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obama promised to bring home the surge he sent back next summer but the combat mission started a decade ago has seemingly turned into an open ended campaign and the u.s. is expanding its largest base in afghanistan to exemplify that if you need one it's building among other things and up to one hundred million dollars prison they began soliciting bids last month the government did but correspondent jason mattera he's in afghanistan so we had the whole story from there take a look. if the united states isn't drawing its troops from afghanistan why is its largest base getting bigger u.s. led forces over intel of late she doesn't want bugaboo airfields little more than a flight telling the correct runway since then a former soviet base in the plains north of the afghan capital has grown into a small city itself to over twenty five thousand full time personal fleets of military hardware and the theaters to cause traffic jams and the expansion is the
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way it is by scores of clubs reckless u.s. military engineers are constructing new housing and storage facilities to make room for even more building workers after sending an extra thirty thousand troops after this in last year president obama started bringing them home this summer with afghan forces struggling to stand alone it's likely a bit less will even planned and bases like this one are going straight any time soon. at least there are plenty of home comforts for soldiers staying on for tell a few more deployments they can shop for everything from front screen t.v.'s to fine jewelry enjoy a cappuccino grab some take out a new piece not for insurance and if you're tired of working on a gym and free to go to the salon for a haircut socks although some officials have tried to limit such minute he's calling them a distraction from the more the troops are happy to have and these are extremely wealthy families leave every detail of this length and have a case they have that right. local afghan merchants are also glad to have the extra
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business with inside and outside the war i don't remember soldiers my business would be nothing we like having them here but not everyone agrees to every taliban rocket attacks around the mines and as the base becomes more and more crowded the threat to those living inside multiplies the matter how high it's most become everyone it's a close call when you this can just get this much equipment personnel it's all going into one tight spot to get close it's going to destroy something or someone easy as it may be to forget at times this is still a war zone jason locklear embark for a team. still a war zone certainly one that is expanding right there bob graham so have all the time and effort been worth it for the united states ten years what do americans think harshness of a president dot net went out to new york on the streets to ask. it's
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been ten years since the u.s. bound to afghanistan as a prelude to an ongoing war a decade later president word that this week let's talk about that. so what are they still doing there for ten years i don't know how. well they do and i don't know it's probably another. war where the problem is not a we're not. going to win it's just a case of more and more americans and others going it seems clear cut see that it's not worth but i don't see a goal and i really see anything changing even if we stay there another hundred years it was worth it to hunt down al qaeda but i think we did there at the start with our special forces and for the past nine years i don't think we've accomplished much at all very controversial question there's pros and cons to the situation what are the pros the proses i think that we have to make a statement that we aren't able to. see things sitting down that we have
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a voice and whether it's there's more peaceful ways to present that probably how does it go on for ten years that you take a stand for ten years it's a hornet's nest there's no winner over there we had great. we were in there with them but what we have to do. well eventually we got to bring peace and i mean that's such a nebulous thing right like are we really bringing peace to afghanistan well only time will tell you got to really know enough about it to say what it was worth there and do you think that's crazy that your country's been at war for ten years and you don't know anything about it that is wrong. but do you think most americans feel that way you know i'm sure a lot of americans there were pro and anti. for for a war there for that long i mean it better be for something and we better be getting something out of it you think that's going to happen. it seems like most
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people don't feel like the u.s. war in afghanistan has been worth it unfortunately no one in power seems to be listening. all right still ahead here on our team with protesters on wall street and all across the country the u.s. possibly head into recession the girls down in crisis and global growth slowing how about an audit for the global economy i'll have a report for you a special report coming up. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions. who can you trust no one. is your view with the global regime where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called fashion when nobody dares to ask read q r t question more. you know sometimes you see
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a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here so you saw the part of it and realized everything you saw you don't. try hard to think.
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right welcome back with protesters on wall street and across the country protesting inequality and a financial system and with trillions of dollars that have been spent on wars we've been talking about both those things today but it's not just that the u.s. is possibly headed towards another recession not to mention there's a crisis in the eurozone and global growth has slowed down so how about an audit for the global economy on this friday r t has a special report. i found a floor in the model god perceived is the critical function and she broke through the far end of the world. ladies and gentlemen you choose to
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choose to use it to get good or examine the status of the human experiment is it succeeding or will it have to be aborted with the system this rap used goes to clovis allegedly trying to make sense of the global economy and its arcane things as financial temples the research is clamoring to maintain our confidence in hmong kids and banking on the river to wants to be seen trade imbalances recession to keep the nations close to collapsing a subprime loan foreclosed homes people might suspect the bailouts to fail aaa votes again feel a little slicing is a us crash seems imminent having smashed the debt ceiling of fourteen trillion despite protests and clashes in the streets the i.m.f. in close proximity and just programs increasing the total economy and the language from the greek economy of meaning household management. managing phoebe's amount in practice does anyone actually know what the hell they even happening to be taking some sanity we take a step across to texas with our first guest welcome to rap music the old economy what's your diagnosis of it's all well with drop the ball out of position politics
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and this is called see the global economy is chronically ailing believe me because we plowed it is terminally phase we're headed towards creating cardiac arrest deep depression and trouble across the way is the rich more capitalism plans and the market will take care of the rampant first. maneuvers see bankers gone through claims through. our economy was inflated totally the we can. stand on the body is a worthless commodity is the biggest fraud in the history of humanity this must come down to only capital. system isn't just enough to see feel like communism or see this policy because the free market is a bad spirits religion has been hurt by this believe it's. just the bomb of corporations with state business lucratively mostly just exemplified by the system of the same truth or we need to call more to pay their debt campaigning to.
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think wrong now for another fine line a long line frequencies the director behind some guys down the line makes me feel make a pizza choice thank you robert for allowing me to speak this moment the before right the liver my prognosis we need a sweet. to keep a spoke. to these fighters that you will in a system that is sickly inherently flawed the whole monetary paradigm is the single cause economies and broken it doesn't need this is exactly to you she isn't interested in real economy has been set up to see you so you don't agree with congressman ron. is the solution to a good along. these debts can be served by using money which creates more frankly absurd it's a way of maintaining divisions leverage when we could. create jobs live within our
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means health care and welfare schemes it seems yours is just another socialist feel this is choose such socialism he is a real. is it just rhetoric would you really i would and the quite opposite but i was open to competition salit i say abolish all competition evolution my movement is true evolution is just there we the whole picture believe me they can assume scripture that says the real bible site does for what's then some kind of possibly gay porn. print brutal. truth to be invisible. thank you for your siege contributions and brief attempts to alleviate the confusion lying to you both inspired and led. revealing hidden truths in a suit you like to use but time's running out you have a practical solution i believe but see the prospects. are profit
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clear the planet. are such homosapiens require. the solution depopulation initiation order. since two or three of the last global economy under attack from our grand genocidal utopian robots. had still stood strong. carry the capital crimes. to where the wrong. is this the solution no just a demonstration of my love for the she told his. city on ron paul and i approve these messages with you is that your bias a bit of time to share with you before we end for the likes of global economy it
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does seem it will. be with. me stuck with the we've been rising and now we're losing confidence but this is surprising because it was pretty good from the first seed we planted submodules a big piece of the footsie one hundred seems to come to see. it's an interesting question we've invested so much in this enterprise would be the solution might be demise of real economy is something much broader its g.d.p. measures not by our ability to put our capacity to reload in place images that would have been us from enormous planets arc pandora. all right that was interesting from money back to where the u.s. is spending it on this tenth anniversary of the war in afghanistan public opinion is a rising up against it and we see protesters in washington d.c. as we speak earlier i spoke with one and i asked if people showing up protesting
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this in the nation's capital is about to be heard by the president and top crosshairs what he said. i think it will i think they're very much hearing especially the occupation going on on wall street they're hearing us here and you know not only is this something that you know will have an effect on ending the war but really it's the only thing that will bring an end to the war i mean washington has signaled quite clearly and we've learned from the experience of your president obama being elected in two thousand and eight if washington is left to its own devices it will continue the occupation to the rack in afghanistan indefinitely and they have said this very plainly robert gates don't betray us and said we're in this fight for the rest of our lives the rest of our children's lives which is quite a long time and it's only through mass action of the people at the grassroots can force this government to do what is in the interest of the people and that's an immediate end to both of these were what makes you think that that will be successful because we've seen protests we've also seen public opinion very high numbers against the war but you don't really see any change and tape it doesn't
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seem right i mean you know that two thirds of the american public are opposed to the war in afghanistan and the statistics also show that majority in the military no longer want to fight and die in afghanistan and in iraq but history tells us that you know the only progressive change the only time changes made in the interests of that ninety nine percent in the interests of working families and soldiers and others has been through a struggle i mean you've seen from the worker's rights movement to the civil rights movement the end to the vietnam war it's always pressure from below making it impossible for the politicians to continue business as usual when there's any actual change means let me ask you a question because you have obviously experience in iraq that a lot of people in this country haven't you know we don't have a draft and a lot of the cost of this war has been felt by average americans do you think it's possible for there to be the kind of movement that would affect washington when so few actual lives in the u.s. have been affected by u.s. policies that brought with war it right well i would say that everyone's life every
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person who works for a living every person is trying to have a supportive family or go to the. dr and not go bankrupt because of it or want to not get evicted from their home they're all affected by this war because whether or not you're one who experiences firsthand or has family members that go these wars in iraq and afghanistan alone the cost is over eight hundred million dollars a day of taxpayer dollars that's a vast laundering of resources at a time when we're in the deepest recession since the great depression or worse than the worst recession ever in u.s. history and so i think while there's growing discontent over the economy a middle people more and more are realizing that you know we need money for things that people actually need and deserve like money for jobs in education and health care and home well so much is being squandered on the war is i think that's a connection that's very easy for people to make especially since you know the majority of clothes the war is already there seeing as their conditions of living are going down as there's continuing unemployment in joblessness social services
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continue to be slashed to wish and continues to go up all the while all of this money that could be spent on things that actually meet our needs are being squandered on wars that are completely unpopular i think that is a connection that you are standing made more you can never rise apart for ron paul he's made that connection very publicly as part of his campaign and it seems to have resonated with the growing audience that he's got that certainly a large part of that i'm curious as far as that are in this number that one in three of post nine eleven military members think that the war and iraq and afghanistan were not worth fighting and why do you think accounts well you know we even see the politicians kind of stumble over themselves explaining why we have to continue to fight in iraq why we have to continue to fight in afghanistan that's really because the wars are based on lies and they really if they were to say plainly these are worse for empire these are wars for resources these are all wars for you know wall street's domination over the region and for u.s. military expansion you know people would not want to fight them and so they have to
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mask it with these lies and deceptions and so i would say the vast majority of people in the military today those fighting are. and afghanistan wouldn't be able to explain you know the reason that we have to do it and then of course you know the conditions of getting out or when you come home you know the up and down like a suicide that we're seeing in the military where more active duty soldiers are killing themselves than are being killed in combat soldiers who get out of the military come home to a thirty percent unemployment rate for iraq and afghanistan vets that's more than double the national average and more than eleven thousand iraq and afghanistan vets are homeless or are sleeping on the streets there's a dropout rate from colleges of nearly seventy percent firaaq and afghanistan veterans and i so i think that the reality that soldiers are living with these constant repeated deployments to wars that are unpopular wars that they can't explain and then coming home to really does more conditions really shows them that you know the u.s. government cares absolutely nothing about their lives is reckless and throwing them away and cares nothing about caring for these soldiers when they get home and so i
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would say that there is a growing movement of iraq and afghanistan veterans of active duty soldiers who are realizing very clearly that they have no reason to fight these wars and my experience in seeing something increasingly happen where soldiers are actually resisting and refusing to fight what about the. military pensions are pretty good one of the best pension for public workers and these are tough economic times and more people have arguably re-enlisted to stay in the military do have a job and to have those kind of benefits isn't that argument can be made that it's actually better gig in this economy you know many say in the military because the prospects for jobs are so dismal when they get out they feel that they have no other option but to stay in but even pensions for u.s. soldiers are under attack right now and they're considering changing their pensions to a four zero one k. and so those benefits are under attack as well and even those who retire you can serve twenty years in the u.s. military you can you can go through the ranks to become a sergeant first class or
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a staff sergeant retire and your pension is so small that you still have to get another job when you get out of the military inside say and not only that but what . you endure while you're in the military the fact that the reality now for soldiers is not one deployment not two deployments not even three but multiple combat tours that really if you get out of them alive if you've got of them without being horribly maimed or losing limbs there is a severe psychological trauma that's attached to that that makes you incapable of really living a normal life afterwards and that's why we're seeing such a crisis and mental health and such a massive epidemic of suicide is because how you come back from these tours you know with the complete lack of care when you get back and so those who try to argue that there are some economic benefit to serving in the military all you have to do is look at the suicide numbers and see what really happens to your life when you serve how has it been for you served in iraq i'm doing you an r.a. and i think that you know what i always you know tell people who you know like i
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was were angry about the war was angry about what we were a part of you know feeling that we were lied to and betrayed by the u.s. government and where we're simply used as pawns in this you know imperial chess game are used as the muscle for banks and corporations but many come back with you know having a hard time dealing with what we have seen what we have been a part of and i would say that the they've got to remedy for that is is fighting against that government that sends us there and made us a part of what we are a part of and just quickly because you said that you felt d'antin felt like you know where they're under false pretenses obviously that was iraq which might lead people to share that sentiment do your friends that have served in afghanistan feel the same way about afghanistan and i think a real short answer because you know it's very obvious that if they say we're fighting to defend ourselves against terrorist attacks the united states i mean it's absolute ridiculous most people afghanistan have never even heard of the nine eleven attacks people understand they're fighting just ordinary afghans i just want .

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