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programs continue up next palestinians tell us in their own words how they're being pushed violently out of their own city by jewish settlers. are. brought are here. there are five hundred of them surrounded by a hundred and twenty thousand very very hostile most. of the settlers in hebron illegally being there. what's wrong with truth living room why is that illegal this is our land and the arabs know that. this is
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since the settlers arrived in one thousand eighty two we have lived on opposite sides of the road a second holy and once we could drive up and park in front of the house here and now only the settlers can i always have to have a plan to avoid being shot at or having stones thrown out of the. boy but there was no way i scream here just the ratings in the city put these up to
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protect us from the settlers from something our house is surrounded by why screens and the settlers now throw smallest stones that get through our destroyed a screen with the why are some hottest of lucky's your boss who some of. us stay out of this mission slows the dog and he definitely not closing the door and it is getting to cage and then i do want to stay inside the seven closed the dog get the camera out of here yet call the police turn the camera off its early in the morning what you want from us to me. is. being a pioneer like like in the beginning of the state of israel there are different types of swamps that people had to deal with then there were swamps and malaria. now there are there are security problems and people who question our rights
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to living here and by living here we were stating a fact and that the fact is is that the hub is the heart of the jewish country and it's where it all began and we just want to have a natural jewish life here. oh oh. oh. oh oh i. was. sure he was trying to come home kill kill him. oh oh oh oh oh oh oh yeah hey it was clear.
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you're the one of the line when other you talk to jeff it's not mineral oh one of the year. one of. the show i go i go first so just told you my boy wants to come how do they want that's him don't you see what he's doing. that's if he loves you he's here to indicate the boys below i want to get the boy was out of this is today in the situation in. israel and there are many many questions why are we here or may we give anything to our enemies and we are in the middle of a war even if we are not saying it aloud we. and i think this into phones are not questions the only answers we hear because of our petri ox that's. the god promised
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them this is the land belongs to us. oh no. you can say this is the essence the hard core of the occupation because there are seven of those living inside the me because the center of a palestinian city and you put a scene is there and they are very extreme and there is the army of protecting them and protecting the there for the scene and against the settlers so you have all the elements for greek drama you know this is the essence of the occupation of iraq and . we are living in a liberal democracy with a free press and all of the other things that we take for granted in a democracy and yet the reality in the occupied territories is very very different and surprisingly in spite of the free press in spite of the fact that you have hundreds of journalists covering the situation it remains the case that the israeli
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public really doesn't know what is taking place in the occupied territories and i think they don't know because they choose not to know. their will of the war you know. forty eight. a very long. cold war in which gained seventy eight percent of the country off by this time as it existed before there was another war in sixty seven. got the stock by the side. and the moment this war was finished and the saudis. to its we had to call cut. all the natural. desire. by some people do
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an exit to it. and after a few weeks and a few months passed by and we suddenly saw it as no pressure at all on is to give back this debt it overseas then slowly some people have said why not why should we get and put all settlements debt the idea was to annex these territories where our days of settlement idea is to annex the obstacle is that. the palestinian people leaving. then the question arises how do you annex august. recess short of million or to a million arabs palestinians. and tell some people who say just take. this years and push them all to fatah sign as we did to house the palestinian people in nineteen forty eight so if this all the steps that we explained said
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let's at the most extreme out of five want. because the israeli soldiers put up this honor next because the settlers were throwing stuff it was good little to protect as well so now instead of chucking stone see through filthy water and other stuff that passes through the magic of the hemi and he'll bring. the only city in the west bank and gaza duckie by personal territory settlement that are. implanted at the heart of the city and we need the result of that is the slow death of the posts in the population center for the benefit of the expansion of these sentiments you can see this as a trend since two thousand since the beginning of the recent the father with the closures of all the entry points into the old city what we have since two thousand
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is was areas where no pulsing in vehicle movement is allowed another area where else and these are not allowed to go through and no presence of palestinians is allowed and then you have closed shops. you can't pass through you can't go freely to your hospital to your home can't go cd to another village to another city you can't go to your university. so this was a super markets this was a photography studio and the shops used to be open folks earn their living here i say and then four hundred settlers came to live here and they shut the whole town down suckle so that it kind. of looked at it. didn't care is there really coming back to the jewish roots the first your city we
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know that abraham and sarah and isaac and rebecca and they can live by here and they called the jewish tradition even i mean even by him. bringing up a jewish family in the place of the jewish roots. the basis of the jewish people. that. was was that. any of my country in the world it would be defined as fascist if not for us. bunch of five hundred also people whose aim in life is to die for all out i don't have sixty thousand palestinians home to consider strange this. these people who have come. so that you know forty or fifty years ago your.
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consider the inhabitants of taiwan who've been doubtful for five thousand years as strange as. i thought. i was i believe it's important for everyone to come and see what's going on here and not just. have them pressure from the news because the news is very slanted and when people come they shout that this is a place where people can walk around and visit and feel normal and then it's not. what they see on the news were they think it's just a military. i think you know a lot of soldiers come here in the beginning they think you know. and this is this is you know like an army base and then they realize that this is not an army base this is a place for jewish people. i
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remember in the year two thousand two thousand and one and two thousand and two and three the whole fifty thousand inhabitants of the old sea killed have gone where on the p.f. you are one hundred of these in video that lasted for two three years this caused palestinians to leave. the old city outside. i. i i i. i served in hebron in two different period of time say eighteen first as a soldier and then as two thousand and one till middles two thousand and two was done i came back as a commander in march two thousand and three two or three december and the first two three weeks of we came to the bromley went down to the city. you're all shocked.
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you know you're obese and you're sent to wields shops and doors from palestinian celss you see sterilized streets where palestinians are forbidden to walk and only jews are allowed to walk here you have to fourscore few for all time and veils isn't a daily basis you go in locked in the streets and you find yourself in front of their feet is that probably in germany sounds you know it sounds familiar better than to us such as arabs to the gas chambers guys they are observes out with the stars of david a neighbor in the middle and there was a group of michael platoon in the beginning thought refused to serve and help them we were shot we don't believe what's going on you know you come to a place that we have two sets of law by definition that the orders are that you have to protect the settlers and if you see them attacking palestinians you're not allowed to arrest them. of course many other people who are
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being sent and come back for the. full faith that against a setlist cause acetyl about to just move to the people as. they treat them medically as a kind. person of the security detachment whose job was to obey and serve the setlist but these are really army has been interest to date it for many years now by the set less and if everyone is fairly obvious a part of the settlement the settlement is closed the connect that with all.
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the security presence and paper on is heavy or unfortunately there are people who are trying to kill us and many of the terrorists that wander around trying to blow themselves up anywhere from their share of up to haifa have have come out of control and the presence the military presence here is to protect us but it's also to try to weed out these terrorists and sue to it that they don't just tell a fish and blow themselves up. although legally they are there to protect everyone to impose the law on everyone that the actual soldier stationed there understands his job as protecting the settlers and stopping palestinian terror.
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ok so we will start probably will be guided by. david wilder to the left and also sell david is the spokesman for foreign interests of the settlement and have wrong and also as documenting our work i just offered them to speak with you guys to give their point of view and they refuse because they say they don't cooperate with traitors during the war time like today traitors like me so you will get only one perspective today and i'm sorry for that. i don't call him military you to show all who leads the group is a in any other normal country they would put him on trial for treason and hang him . but unfortunately israel hasn't reached that level yet of of justice. people express their opinions some people are put in jail when they express their opinions because it's called incitement and whatever he does what he does that's
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considered to be legitimate however i don't relate to them too much importance but there are many jewish communities and not only jewish communities which understand the importance of hebron to the jewish people the significance of cover on the significance of jews living you know and people are able to express that support in different ways some pop people come to visit some people send letters some people wish to donate some of their money and i think that that proves without any doubt that people understand the importance of a jewish community here in corona. when we came to her own in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven we didn't occupy a foreign city we came back home and came back to the first george city in the land of israel like to look at the faces of those years of those jews who were killed thank you god god is surely one of the last to be shipped out. and there were two hundred settlers and their claim starts we are a continuation to the jewish community we live there was deported from here by them
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. and that's not the truth of course there are some people who come from families who live there that agree with the system but there are lots of people who come from the jewish community who have grown. who are against you know fundamentally against the settlement of a fundamentally against the idea that six hundred fifty people can you know have all their rights in the back of one hundred fifty thousand people. usually in jewish holidays or weekends a lot of people coming out of settlers from other people visitors from jerusalem from outside and one of the you know biggest fears of the i.d.f. was his it's some of the palestinians never will sit down near one of the houses
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and i will just slot every one of the phrases or walk around the streets so how do you deal with it for sure we can there now days you pose corfield on the palestinians friday morning you divide all the palestinian neighbors around the settlement. you go to search. the finished run round take arrested one of the house you lock the family room you put observers on go to sleep after three i was a wake up it's time for the second round and again that's another aspect of what it was to live here. when they come particular house to ask me to connect all of the family with them in the kitchen all in one room they take off all the clovis that begs the beds all of that and have in many time they come through the house this is all of the family
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outside but i see so many cars like this that i don't care i remember one one night we state from one o'clock after midnight until four o'clock four o'clock and was laying all our heads. and they said they want to check the house and they know nothing of the house. i did sixty eight after the six day war and the great. military victory that god gave to us. is really go there really back then wasn't sure what we can do theories we've liberated sixty seven let you stay the jews move there don't let jews move there i tell you what your living god is rabbits and we're having a get together they advertise in the joy newspapers because fan base that downtown have a park called tell. and those sort of an olympic sized swimming pool and no great music entertainers color might but he had
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a one star hotel windows provide if you pay extra money thirty families registered for the p.s.l. for service. in just dandy government decided to take him out of there and to put them into the mid to the government building which was an order but to show police force less and then there might be plight and barely the military government could not function anymore to just turn to meet the government building in door private settlement so the government did let him take out of. it to a new settlement called chaotic album in one thousand seventy gulden mia came along says i got the solution and that solution is called. here and she built this beautiful beautiful suburb with low just mortgages cheap housing olympic size swimming pool really solar jacuzzi tennis courts just came a big fascist dominated settlement the center of all of fascist elements and is
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that. and then to start that funk. back into the oval so slowly this is step of the little step of the step of the step they occupied is part of curve on where you know even in this spot the settlers of a small minority that was. majority quote of go on. this was the basis st in hebron matter everybody came here all the farmers people from the neighboring towns out of windsor coolies i know nobody comes in here they have shot everything the how while and since the intifada they closed entrance. but the problem we used to go in and when the settlers could not see the base for them
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to welded to don't. be so now we're getting from the back i mean by climbing over the neighbor's through five up stands and over while someone is in and all this trouble to keep the settlers out of the house and really around the settlers lines that's where they leave and share and also in all the other colonists around us stopped in the. wrong stop and look look that we're surrounded by settlers and soldiers on a stop and read that well you must open i have no doubt that if today another two hundred thousand jews moved into today in some area. a lot of the arabs who were here pick up and leave you have to throw them out i don't know them i don't know there today are in my favor that i don't know looking for forced explosions very bloody but i have a feeling that if they see masses of masses of people coming over to take their homes away from just to settle in the land here a lot of them just leave. any
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normal human being have a specific set that was a bomb you know he'll be on this point i can i take it in my chili can i take it in a war so i'm going to have have to leave basically these if i had to both live. two weeks ago a fight about real estate and. the truth is the main core i am not among those who think that this this beauty in the middle east is a religious one it is a nation listed one and the main disputers of both land look even at the transfer there was a real transfer and for for nobody talks about it there's something about fifteen twenty twenty five souls of people who all had to leave their homes it is just
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not see tonight a war dragging on for a decade for the u.s. led invasion of afghanistan the ten year mark of the taliban defeat nowhere in sight and. is rising faster than. meanwhile the u.k. enough is enough say protest is calling for a speedy troop withdrawal i gather in london the. tenth anniversary. and corporate sentiment spreads fast across the u.s. the occupy wall street movement is criticized for lacking organization but says it's far from chaotic and is in for the long haul. welcome this is our team from moscow it's eleven pm saturday evening here kevin i don't know the top story for you the u.s. led war in afghanistan is now past the ten year mark.
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