their voices are loud in their numbers are growing but is anyone listening to their demands a large see as we're on the ground and leave town hip hop artist immortal technique from the movement needing a leader to what's next his thoughts are straight ahead. and while the movement may be falling on deaf ears it's getting more help this week first labor unions now in distress homeowners will take to the city of angels where residents facing foreclosure are fighting back against the system.

and while the mainstream media is that he was in protesters are not having their act together seems like they do forming a united front against fox news so as a hero as geraldo is at least out there in the thick of things being hated on the by the way where is anderson cooper. it's monday october tenth seven pm in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our itsy. occupy wall street protests have been going strong as it enters its fourth week now hundreds remain camped out on wall street and in a spin off protests here in washington and cities across the country people are actually rising of voicing their frustration and anger at a system they say allows corruption and greed to flourish and benefit

a privileged few while the masses suffer arts he's marina porton ana is there on the ground and cut an interview with head of artists and mortal technique she asked him about the movement still leaderless a month later and what comes next i think the tipping point might have been the arrest the mass arrests of the early eight hundred peaceful protesters on the brooklyn bridge that took place i know you've been very outspoken about it in the book so i think that very much what it is that sally would use the internet became viral because you saw a bunch of defenseless people that were simply expressing their freedom. to speak their mind in a public place then they were penned of when they were sprayed down they were obviously not in danger of harming any police officers and then all of a sudden you see white shirts coming out more and more often and seemingly unable to be held responsible for anything that they do almost as if they are above

the law and that is very exemplary of exactly what has continued to fuel the fire here at this protest the fact that people there are all wall street people that are in government all refusing washington thing is that all of them but a lot of them are refusing to acknowledge their responsibility and what caused all this you know listen come from nowhere people didn't just decide to get up and be angry about nothing people who are seriously concerned about the direction that our democracy is going a lot of people online think jack that this movement if they were to take action should go so far as to either pull their money out of banks or stop using credit cards it's not i'm not promoting any ideas they're locked in this question but it is something that has been for cathy do you think that the second idea is better than the first using credit card i think even though we have to have a cohesive strategy to pull this together i think that there's

a lot of real brainstorming that needs to happen because if we make one move we need to be focused on what moves will be made against us you know this is a chess game just like the united states chess game in the middle east where they're willing to give up a few points but what they really want to pieces they're willing to trade a few lame duck presidents because what they really want is the main characters on the bill you know they're willing to trade the carbon god he's all right give the guy used to be a player mubarak became a call when they were. bishop gadhafi. now they want to clean iraq out of this secure chess game and build it. the not playing that here is. we have the not only the focus over the next move but what the reaction to what their reaction to our next move is we have to think ahead of the game this is lies that there should be more brainstorming sessions here and i'm not so sure they should always be in public because i think honestly that we're not the

only ones rogers would be a fool to think that there aren't people in boulder here or around this area that are sleeper cells agents that's not need be paranoid that's just the truth you know the first person the first black person ever worked for a secret service agency was agent eight hundred his job was to infiltrate the movement of marcus garvey if they were to go i got that bit by would they be thinking like that and i think what's most important is that we don't get frustrated or angry or upset or lack the patience to be able to deal with this move . and that was have artists and political activists and mortal technique now while there's a movement still has no clear leader it may not be fair to say that these people are not organized r.t. correspondent on a fantasy a target takes us give us a like a vandal like of the occupation. well not nice in the field.

or drives around during police arrest. a peaceful zone prevails at the occupy wall street social. hundreds of people have been out here for over three weeks all day and all night and while some are trying to preserve the movement as just crowds getting around we take a look at the life the occupy wall street protesters leave here is sparse with the camp a buzz around the clock it's really only the dead of night maybe for i don't even know i mean the hours from i don't know maybe you know five or six of the. really well down the crowds are growing and i just took the train down from buffalo new york to come down so it's more a daily schedule keeps the occupation in order for us which is nine am we have early like the general assembly meetings are working group meetings so that they're working with the dress you know the things that they write for that day well in two

years that these groups are busy all day long the media center live stream video of developments from the ground other spread information and petitions on paper we don't want any of our tax cuts for millionaires the economy is not in any of this right now if you give millionaires a tax cut when everyone is suffering we can't pay teachers can't pay for people's health care. because people don't have died for. an occupy wall street journal published by the people for the people is spread around we have blackouts no one knew about it i mean you caused the common people in the i don't know the happening the big screen with messages sent by occupiers with less growing global support what we have here is now over two hundred fifty thousand people. signed a pledge of support for the occupiers again we're with you and with you we are united. that fight for real democracy against corruption at brad government to be

accountable to the people and not to a corrupt. the kitchen is of cause preparing meals for occupiers. whose working in sanitation are busy keeping the camps clean. the floors comfort and medication area volunteers give out one clothes and emergency assistance we make do their rounding. areas. use it but village and do. it for them in the in a crowd you know it's dark at night and. i couldn't imagine. wondering about what's going on in body oh it's covered dealing brushed aside self education occupies many here i spent a lot more time reading verses like television or. video games or whatever when they're not marching the streets of the financial district they demonstrate at the

camp. those with a creative streak paint and draw sketches to document the revolution to relax some play chess or teach yoga and meditation class it's a general assembly meetings pull everyone together. tell during the day and then at night. the big decisions are made here for direct democracy as protests continue from one cause to change a corrupt economic and financial system ninety nine percent of the country. are. have don't have control of the wealth that they should not even be distributing one percent of the country or forty two percent of the well the do the protester is packed the mind occupied with revolution if people want to bring real change to america to protest the only way they see left. the church in

a party. and for more on this i have spoken author and activist david swanson i asked him what's next here's his take. well we're not going anywhere we're staying and we got here to washington on october sixth and congress left town and they get back on tuesday and so tuesday morning is when we really begin to bring our grievances to our government on capitol hill i mean we have lots of other targets in this town buildings that we have been and will continue to be shutting down but our government hasn't even been here and most of the bureaucrats and the lobbyists and the profiteers have been gone for the weekend and columbus day so we're just getting ready to get started and we have no intention of going anywhere anytime soon ok and as they become felt their back and tell washington how do you think that's going to factor the movement like do you think that all of the list then so you more are i mean well how are you expecting that. change i'm not expecting them

to shut down our foreign bases and end all wars and to redirect the money to human needs by next week it is going to be a long process of shifting our culture of educating each other of coming to realize our strength in numbers but we're beginning to see that we're beginning to see conversations i mean peace and justice activists like me outside of a party or a campaign getting invited on network television and cable television this is new and different the conversation about what the one percent of us is doing to the rest of us senator sanders getting ben bernanke you to admit that wall street ruined our economy california pulling out of the mortgage fraud settlement we're restoring to see little ripples but it's going to be a lengthy process but i'm more encouraged and i've been in ten years ok so i mean do you think that this movement has reached its peak or is there do you have a fear that this may fizzle out and you know the next big story of anaconda long i doubt it very much i don't think we're completely dependent on the u.s.

corporate media and when we marched through the streets of this city and i've heard stories from other cities people who join in the march we shout we're the ninety nine percent and so are you and they cheer and they join. and then we applaud the peoples on their horns not you knowing or at the traffic jam but in solidarity cabbies show up at freedom plaza and so are you one of the protesters no charge stores are donating things we're beginning to realize that it's not our personal problems in our household but that everybody shares these problems and you know we later this is a criticism in the media that there is no leader there's so we still haven't seen this leader or merge and you think that you know with that this protest is able to stay strong without this kind of charismatic leader emerging and inspiring people to persis and to advance their interests we'd see an infant man's our leader i'm reminded of the u.s. army demanding that chief from american indians who didn't have one reads we don't

need them we don't need that imposed on us we're working to avoid being a leader people who saw politicians like barack obama as a leader are very disillusioned right now and that's good they've got their rights we don't need a leader we need an agenda and we get tax the rich and the wars that empower the majority rather than the corporate elites you know it's quite simple if you know it's anyone other than perhaps a c.n.n. producer can grasp it. right and you know it's obvious what the message as and what these people are upset about but in terms of the man's can you can you narrow it down to three things to quantify it or to make it so you know we could steer that there's a basis for a change in policy to see some real change if you if you go to the way we have thousands of charismatic leaders but if you go to the top of october two thousand

and eleven dot org you'll see seven short bullet points including ending the wars cutting the military spending taxing the rich getting clean elections taking the money out it said or you read all of that. it's a thousand times shorter than the instruction manual for a d.v.d. player or a television it's completely within the cognitive ability of americans you know if thomas jefferson had to fit the declaration of independence on a bumper sticker it wouldn't have made it better it would mean it's stupid you know and the fact that the sound bites of shrunk over the years doesn't mean that our demands of shock right i mean you can put it into words majority rule but there are a lot of things that the majority wants that aren't happening in washington and you know you know we saw these protests as high war protests as some similar messages in the sixty's there in the civil rights movement and and that some of them turned violent which now you know we never want to encourage violence but do you think that there needs to be something else like some kind of another part something else

to really. how to help this movement take off and we need to use the very strongest tool we have because this is a crisis and that too is nonviolence nonviolence is much more powerful than violence the two guys who tried to mess up our our march to the air and space museum the other day using violence displayed its weakness violent succeeds around the world less than half as frequently as nonviolence nonviolence is just much much more powerful it brings more people into our movement it frightens the elites much more severely and it is much more likely to achieve success we just need much more of it. much more and are you expecting. you know with movements. the tea party movement for example you saw thousands and thousands of people show up i mean how can you get more people because you're saying that you're you know the ninety nine percent how do you get the crowds to reflect that number we're

seeing even more people to put even more pressure on on government leaders some of us have been trying to get this started for many years without this much success like we have more people now we have more young people more people from different backgrounds now and much more public awareness of solidarity with the movement now than we've seen in the past ten years that has to grow dramatically but this is an incredibly good start but i think needs to be continued in more or less the same direction it's going david thank you so much for keeping us. informed the latest on the protests that was author and activist david swanson. and the media at first brushed off the demonstrations some have mocked a protest and some are now being forced to listen up and cover at what role does the media play in the perception of this movement earlier i posed that question is

a christian members journalism professor at georgetown university here's what he had to say. i would critique the coverage of this story by the networks and the cable giants i would probably give a c. minus. four or five on the low end and ironically networks like m.s.n. you see pretty much in the c. plus range very likely because they are you know retreating to stereotypes of people you know either a square or wherever has hippies or drum beating you know savages and they are not i mean this this is not an organized movement as say with the tea party where you had conservative business people conservative politicians and pac rubes basically orchestrating what the grassroots was doing this is true grassroots so maybe there is a bias on that level there's also

a bias on the level that you know wall street funds the corporations that own these media outlets since the one nine hundred eighty s. so i would say a c. minus and i'm happy you think that being. biden and. affecting public perception. of the public perception of this movement is very very weird you have. the kind of one nine hundred sixty s. kind of mean going on where you know people are trying to channel the sixty's in a positive way or refer to it in a negative way i mean for example you have say as tournaments n.b.c. particularly in maddow show rachel maddow show and say the nation magazine which is on the left trying to channel this this leftist grassroots sort of approach on the right with fox it's basically looking around a point to be able snuggly. not even condescendingly i mean almost like with the

state and it also fits into their kind of the sixty's were a bad knee where you have you know radicals and brawl burners and you know angry black panthers that kind of thing i mean they're they're actually trying to dredge that up and you see that in the coverage on fox news you know the comments by people like representative broom republican from illinois or peter king. republican from new york basically dredging up those old sixty stereotypes now speaking of fox i want to. crack. we are seeing on fox ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha was my god now there is her all the rivera kind of talking on to fight the cancer there and i want to contrast that with.

a clip here from c.n.n. to really clean up and rebuild port au prince is going to require more than your shovels and brooms and work crews here's what i know i can tell you at this hour last night basically this exact time there was a large pro mubarak demonstration and the death toll continues to rise the poll numbers i just point we are still very early days. here good god. now anderson cooper are going to fly for all corners that are all found early that he wherever there and wherever there is a good half hour about why can't move based parenting are why can't he walk down the street and. that's pretty close by you can pretty. well you know people might think at first blush that those two clips are totally unrelated they are on the one hand you have fox sending their you know the one guy

who they think can infiltrate that group or all because geraldo was is a lightning rod for that kind of of stuff and square to go down there and broadcast live but you know again he goes down there with and with their agenda as well i mean he goes down there and shows the drum beating it cetera et cetera but does not talk to the young people in america fact cost to tell the smiley cornell west who serve a dual purpose they can show the kind of reversion or you know that it's some movement of of scary black people as well as hippies on the one hand but it also fulfills the role of showing as there are these are two men who have been very much in opposition to barack obama so it's a very well planned well produced sort of situation and you know the protesters kind of play ended out when they do the fox news lies chant and that scares fox's demographic on the other hand you have c.n.n.

which is owned by time warner which you know is beholden to a lot of investment banks and funds and wall street basically ignoring this and told the last minute yes anderson cooper could go down and look at that he could he was in to here's where he was in haiti this is our version of their square but again they're their target demographics main street that watches. anderson cooper they're not that personally invested in this yet but they will be because my. more and more people do you see unions and just regular people backing this and you see it all over the country so i think you're going to see c.n.n.'s coverage get a little bit more in-depth fox's probably will remain the same and lastly chris you know we saw one congressman peter king he says he's going on the record saying that it's important for people and the media not legit in my story. to bring attention to ari. what's your reaction for that well he's

he's he's reading from the talking point it's basically that you say you know across the g.o.p. now from room to eric cantor to peter king who should know better because that you know he's from new york and i'm sure he even knows some kids at some of these older people who are working people who have gone up there to support them or they're in unions or not in this is reading from the same playbook from the sixty's so but jim eyes protest because it will get larger and these people don't represent america what they're saying is we do represent america we're just brave enough to go down there because we're young and that's what young people do and i think there are a lot of older people that really side with them on this and again i think this is just from the republican talking points if you will to try to deal the jim eyes this this movement because it is a formal movement i mean not like a tea party sale when you look at their comments about the tea parties i know it's

a little you know then if they're supportive but that is you know the rank and file were grassroots but they were being finance minister related cetera et cetera by rather organized forces so it's you know i don't i don't fault peter king for saying what he says it fits into what their strategy is i'm just saying he should know better. and that was chris chambers a journalism professor at georgetown university and from los angeles to chicago new york to new york as we've proven our t. of keeping up to the bit with what is going on in the occupy wall street movement and if you want if you want to let you know our intrepid producer lucy kappa knob is in the midst of all the action in new york with the latest hottest news from occupy wall street again if you'd like to keep up with the latest happenings at occupy wall street you can follow lucy and lucy counted up. well still

ahead here on our t.v. from coast to coast the occupy wall street movement is spreading and it's not just unions that are joining the ranks now coming up next the house struggling homeowners are lending their voices letting wall street and the banks know they're sick tired and not going to take it anymore. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through that made who can you trust no one who is your view with the overall mission to receive where are we cutting state controlled capitalism is called special so when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more. into it which he lets us do the work to bring justice work out of course. i have every right to know what my

government's truly want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic. american exceptionalism. the occupy demonstrations we're seeing and cities throughout the u.s. have encouraged diverse groups to mark in the streets and los angeles homeowners facing park closure at loudly express their shared grievances of the occupy wall street movement on our t.v. ramon glendower shows us how that was a fact that i had a financial collapse are fighting back against the system.

oh protesters took over a bank of america branch in los angeles and will willing to get arrested in order to send a clear message to wall street. thanks to you. and we have it more than a dozen people have taken to the streets of los angeles now this movie neighbors people from occupy los angeles in solidarity with high wall street and we have here people who have just been foreclosed on plenty of police here in force in order to keep this crowd in check the anti-corporate mobilizations which started in new york are spreading and now some of the most affected by the nation's economic crisis are joining rose could tell receive didn't have big notice after falling behind on her mortgage payments have

a state worker. that i was. working. on the word my day to day also had a death or family which was further financial hardship she claims are bankrupt busa deal with her which he tried to renegotiate her mortgage detail was arrested during a peaceful sit in her during the week but she believes that this type of political action will bring results and they've been really governing about it but i'm sorry my kids just a kid and their dad and i think this is the standard you're seeing at this point from struggling homeowners to the unemployed people. all walks of life are becoming in polled and by the recent street demonstrations we have to go. to my job they cannot make. it buys me a bit of your side of me and used to work at an auto parts plant he's part of the four point five million people who have been unemployed for more than

a year now this father of two is struggling to hold on to his home while he created this mess and they should be hold accountable diverse groups have made up the mobilization in cities across america in recent weeks as more people become inspired to vent their frustration with our financial and political institutions and. oh. they're still uncertainty about whether these protests will cause direct change or whether other self interested will try to capitalize on the popularity but it appears that the financial state of the nation has helped motivate americans to take democracy to the streets. brothers and sisters in the struggle. that. thanks to los angeles ramon the lindo.