st. george college. their voices are allowed in their numbers are growing but is anyone listening for the man's part as a mortal technique without a purpose housefull get his thoughts on the technique of occupy wall street. and while the movement may be falling on deaf ears it's getting more help this week first labor unions now distressed homeowners will take a look at the city of the angels are residents facing foreclosure are fighting back against the system.

and while the movement may be falling on deaf ears it's getting more healthy this week. it's monday october time a panel in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our t.v. . well the surface time for doing the crime but freedom is still in the distant future the first of the so-called cuban five has been released from prison around a dozen dollars a do all of us an american citizen was jailed for thirteen years after being

charged with acting as a spy for the cuban government dollars as glorify a hero by some and cuba's are contacting anti castro groups in miami cuba is pleading for his return and so is his wife who fears that if he doesn't come home help be killed joining us now is richard clue the tourney for the cuban five who has risen represented renee over the past ten years. others are you hi richard thanks for joining us so he served his time why can't he go home it's a very unusual situation and i think it's the first time in american history when an individual who's completely served his entire day for day fifteen years which was the maximum possible sentence that could be imposed in this case is not limited to return home to his native country to be with his family and i don't believe it's ever happened in american history and i think clearly the obvious answer is

a little breeze well it's never happened in american history what so unique about this case that it's happening now. with with rene. just days before his. return home was considered. the american government sent to cuba and former new mexico governor bill richardson to cuba to speak with. were going on some sort of trade were they would be permitted after serving his sentence to go home in exchange for relieving island grows of his entire sentence and a comparison of course is it's very disproportional here is an individual who served fifteen years in prison the equivalent because he is comic was so exemplary in prison that it received some time off for good behavior but he served. in solitary confinement and after serving that sentence he's prevented from going home to being with his wife and precluded from being with him in the united states and

to compare that situation with the situation of a to an individual just in seconds it is just very disproportional should be no need for any trade on that there's any or any any discussion of trade it should be to get all of the cuban five back to cuba now has a life and has family is pleading for his part tyron and our concern for his safe thing is his life in danger. well this is something that has never happened before in south florida and certainly because it we're in we're in new territory for the united states who prosecuted renee for being a cuban agent in the united states is now insisting that renee cuban agents stay in the united states exposed to the very elements that. went to such extremes to make sure that he did not receive a fair trial we don't know what risks he is exposed to here in south florida but we know that it is not a joke and there is a history

a very serious one i want to ax in relation to. our community here and to to imagine that in this new situation where the united states is forcing a cuban agent to remain here in the united states in the midst of this type of hostility whatever happens is certainly. very concerned now you said at this. time of sorry i mean is that normal are have we seen cases before where it's mandated that sarah probation here on u.s. soil well it's the excuse that the united states is using is that he has dual citizenship but he's offered to renounce the united states citizenship he's it so that sort of excuse is phony what it is it's simply a political tactic is a form of blair or hostage taking as you well to try to. gain some sort of. other political aims for the administration by presumably the

release of alan gross but the comparison is this is ridiculous. it's going. do you think justice in this case. it's not search the whole purpose of what what renee is we're going to know right now supervised release of the program the united states congress and instituted twenty five years ago the whole purpose was to help a person we integrate himself into society bring the person back to his family so that he could restart his life in the in a healthy healthy environment a healthy way and he used that stenchy as a means to separate them when they were traumatized. the people who had it not were not involved in anything he had they would use. is is clearly as i say the president and it's true for political reasons richard thank

you for your thoughts on this issue that was richard clues attorney for the cuban. and the occupy wall street protests have been going strong as it enters its fourth week now hundreds remain cans out on wall street and a stand up protest here in washington and cities across the country people are actually rising up voicing their frustration and anger at a system that they say allows corruption and greed to flourish and benefit a privileged few while the masses suffer artie's more in a porn yana is there on the ground and got an interview with half artist and moral technique she asked him about the movement still leader less of one month later and what comes next. i think the tipping point might have been the arrest and mass arrests of nearly eight hundred peaceful protesters on the brooklyn bridge it took place i know you've been very outspoken about it and the policeman found i think that very much what it is that it sounded when it hit the internet became viral

because you saw a bunch of defenseless people that was simply expressing their freedom. to speak their mind in a public place then they were penned off and they were sprayed down they were obviously not in danger of harming any police officers and then all of a sudden you see white shirts coming out more warren and seemingly unable to be held responsible for anything that they do almost as if they're above the law and that is very exemplary of exactly what has continued to fuel the fire here at this protest the fact that people that all the wall street people that are in government are refusing washington is that all of them but a lot of them are refusing to acknowledge their responsibility and what caused all this you know this thing come from nowhere people didn't just decide to get up and be angry about nothing people who are seriously concerned about the direction that our democracy is doing as you know a lot of people on line think jeff that if move in if they were to take some action

should go so far as to either pull their money out of banks or stop using credit cards it's not i'm not promoting any ideas here locked in this question but if it's something that has been suggested you think that the second idea is a lot better than the first out using credit card i think even though we have to have a cohesive strategy to pull this together i think that there's a lot of real brainstorming that needs to happen because if we make one move we need to be focused on what moves will be made against us you know this is a chess game just like the united states chess game in the middle east where they're willing to give up a few parts of what they really want to pieces they're willing to trade for. you lame duck presidents because what they really want is the main characters of the bill you know they're willing to trade the corn van gaal he's right give the guy used to be a player mubarak became a pawn what are they will. the bishop gadhafi go. now

they want the queen iran out of the secu chesty don't think that they're not playing that here if. we have to not only focus on what the next move will look the reaction to what the reaction of our next move is we have to think ahead of the game this is why i said there should be more brainstorming sessions here and i'm not so sure they should always be in public because i think honestly that we're not the only ones rushing this would be a fool to think that there aren't people involved here or around this area that art sleeper cells agents that's not me being paranoid that's just the truth you know the first person the first black person to ever work for the secret service agency was agent eight hundred his job was to infiltrate the movement of marcus garvey if they were thinking like that back then why wouldn't they be thinking like that and i think what's most important is that we don't get frustrated or angry or upset or lack the patience to be able to deal with this move. and be sure to tune in

tomorrow for more of marina courtney on his interview with hip hop artist and political activist and world technique i know many of these people feel powerless and are struggling to get their voices heard any way they can and protesting they say is their only hope of being heard the question now is what comes next beyond staying camped out on the streets what needs to happen to see some real policy changes and see some breal results now this movement still has no clear leader but it may not be fair to say that these people are not organized are the correspondent on a stuffy a churkin a takes a look at the day in the life of the occupation. were not missed in the face. or dragged around during police arrests. a peaceful tone prevails at the occupy wall street socialists. hundreds

of people have been out here for over three weeks all day and all night and while some are trying to preserve the movement as just crowd sitting around we take a look at exactly like the occupy wall street protesters sleep here scarse with the campus was around the clock it's really only been here tonight maybe for i don't even know maybe three hours from i don't know maybe you know three to five years but they. work really well down so the crowds are growing i just took a train down from buffalo new york to come down just for a daily schedule keeps the occupation in order of preference with money and we have early like general some leaving or working group meeting so that the working groups will address you know the things that they might need for that day more than two years of these groups are busy all day long the media center like streams video developments from the ground other spread information and petitions on paper we

don't want any of our tax cuts for millionaires the economy is not in any position right now to give millionaires a tax cut when everyone if we can pay teachers can pay for people's health care. basically but are not gods or. an occupy wall street journal published by the people who are the people it's spread around we have media blackout no one knew about it i mean you cost the common people and they be like i don't know is even happening a big screen with messages sent by occupiers reflects growing group will support what we have here is now over two hundred fifty thousand people have that kind of pledge of support but occupiers say we're with you we stand with you we are united . by a real democracy against corruption at bragg government that truly accountable to the people and not to a corrupt. kitchen is abuzz preparing meals for occupiers. who's

working in sanitation are busy keeping the camp clean the same thing that said to each chief to give folks a little comfort and medication area volunteers give out warm clothes and emergency assistance we make their surrounding. areas. to facility. but it can mean feeding the crowd you know it's dark at night and. dark i couldn't imagine. wondering about what's going on and body of the scrubbers really needs brushed aside self education occupies many here i spend a lot more time reading verses like television our. video games or whatever when they're not marching the streets of the financial district they demonstrate at the camp. those with a creative streak paint and draw sketches to document the revolution to relock some

played chess or teach yoga and meditation classes the general assembly meetings pull everyone together. help during the day and then at night. the big decisions are made here for direct democracy as protesting continues from one cause to change a corrupt economic and financial system and ninety nine percent of the country. are . have don't have control of the wealth that they should is not evenly distributed one percent of the country owes forty two percent of the wealth to do the protester is packed mind occupied with revolution these people want to bring real change to america through protest the only way they see left. is this ensure can our party and. and for more on this i spoke to author and activist david swanson and i asked him a simple question what comes next here's his take. well we're not going anywhere

we're staying and we got here to washington on october sixth and congress left town and they get back on tuesday and so tuesday morning is when we really begin to bring our grievances to our government on capitol hill i mean we have lots of other targets in this town buildings that we have been and will continue to be shutting down but our government hasn't even been here and most of the bureaucrats and the lobbyists and the profiteers have been gone for the weekend and columbus day so we're just getting ready to get started and we have no intention of going anywhere anytime soon ok and as they become that's what they're back into lodgings and how do you think that's been a factor the movement like do you think that all of the local listen to you more are i mean well but how are you expecting that to change i'm not expecting them to shut down all of foreign bases and end all wars and to redirect the money to human needs by next week it is going to be a long process of shifting our culture of educating each other of coming to realize

our strength in numbers but we're beginning to see it we're beginning to see conversations i mean peace and justice activists like me outside of a party or a campaign getting invited on network television and cable television this is new and different the conversation about what the one percent of us is doing to the rest of us senator sanders getting ben bernanke you to admit that we are street ruined our economy california pulling out of the mortgage fraud settlement where we're starting to see little ripples but it's going to be a lengthy process but i'm more encouraged and i've been in ten years ok so i mean do you think that this movement has reached its peak or is there do you have a fear that this may fizzle out and you know the next big story going to come along i doubt it very much i don't think we're completely dependent on the u.s. corporate media and when we marched through the streets of this city and i've heard stories from other cities people join in the march we shout we're the ninety nine

percent and so are you and they cheer and they join. and then we applaud them people honk their horns not in anger at the traffic jam but in solidarity cabbies show up at freedom plaza and so are you one of the protesters no charge stores are donating things we're beginning to realize that it's not our personal problems in our household but that everybody shares these problems and you know we flater this with the criticism in the media that there is no leader there so we still haven't seen this leader or merge and do you think that you know with that this process is able to stay strong without this kind of charismatic leader emerging and inspiring people to persis and to advance their interests we've seen in goodman's our leader i'm reminded of the u.s. army demanding a chief from american indians who didn't have one read we don't need that we don't need that imposes on us we're working to avoid having a leader people who saw a politician like barack obama as

a leader are very disillusioned right now and that's a good they've got their right we don't need a leader we need an agenda and we hope that tax the rich and end the wars that empower the majority rather than the corporate elites you know it's quite simple it's you know it's anyone other than perhaps a c.n.n. producer can grasp it. you know it's obvious of what the message as and what these people are upset about but in terms of demands can you can you narrow it down to three things to quantify it or to make it so you know we could steer there's a basis for a change in policy to see some real change if you if you go to that and by the way we have thousands of charismatic leaders but if you go to the top of october two thousand and eleven dot org you'll see seven short bullet points including ending the wars cutting the military spending taxing the rich getting clean elections

taking the money out it's better if you read all of that. it's a thousand times shorter than the instruction manual for a d.v.d. player or a television it's completely within the cognitive ability of americans you know if thomas jefferson had had to fit the declaration of independence on a bumper sticker it wouldn't have made it better it would mean it's stupid you know and the fact that the sound bites of shrunk over the years doesn't mean that our demands of shock right i mean you can put it into words majority rule but there are a lot of things that the majority wants that aren't happening in washington. and that was author and activist david swanson and the media for us brushed off the demonstration some had mock the protests and some are now being orthe the listen up and coverage what role does the media play and the perception of this movement earlier i posed that question to chris chambers a journalism professor at georgetown university here's what he had to say. i would critique the coverage of a story by the networks and the cable giants i would probably give a c.

minus. with thoughts on the low end and ironically networks like m s n b c pretty much in the c. plus range very likely because they are you know retreating to stereotypes of people you know either a square or wherever as hippies or drum beating you know savages and they are not i mean this this is not an organized movement as say with the tea party where you had conservative business people conservative politicians and pac roups basically orchestrating what the grassroots was doing this is true grassroots so maybe there is a bias on that level there's also a bias in the level that you know wall street funds the corporations that have owned these media outlets since the one nine hundred eighty s. so i would say a c.

minus and i'm happy you think that being a contretemps of a bad thing by the name through media. affecting public perception of both movement i think the public perception of this movement is very very weird you have. the kind of one nine hundred sixty s. kind of mean going on where you know people are trying to either channel the sixty's in a positive way or refer to it in a negative way i mean for example you have say an anonymous n.b.c. particularly and maddow show rachel maddow show and say the nation magazine which is on the left trying to channel this has left this grassroots sort of approach on the right with fox it's basically looked down upon me almost smugly. not even condescendingly i mean almost like with the state in it it also fits into their kind of the sixty's were bad me where you have you know radicals and brawl

burners and you know. black panthers that kind of thing i mean they're they're actually trying to dredge that up and you see that in the coverage on fonts you see that in the comments by people like representative gruen republican from illinois or peter king. a republican from new york basically dredging up those old sixty's stereotypes and laugh like. you know we saw one congressman here passing here that he's got on the record saying that it's important for people in the media cannot read get in my story that it dangerous to bring attention to this story. what's their reaction for that oh he's he's he's reading from the tuffy or it's basically that you see you know across the g.o.p. now from broome to eric cantor to peter king who should know better because that you know he's from new york and i'm sure he even knows some kids and some of these

older people who are working people have gone to there to support them whether in unions or not i mean this is reading from the same playbook from the sixty's don't let gena my eyes the protest because it will get larger and these people don't represent america well what they're saying is we do well. present america we're just brave enough to go down there because we're young and that's what young people do and i think there are a lot of older people that really side with them on this and again i think this is just from the republican talking points if you will to try to deal with jim eyes this this movement because it isn't a formal movement i mean not like the tea party dale where you look at their comments about the tea party than oh it's a little you know better if they're supportive but that is you know the record file we're grassroots but they were being financed manipulated accent or etc by rather organized forces so it's you know i don't i don't fault peter king for

saying what he says in that it fits into what their strategy is i'm just say he should know better. and i was pressed chambers journalism professor at georgetown university and from los angeles to chicago to new york as we've proven our t. is keeping up to the minute with what's going on in the occupy wall street movement and i want to let you know our intrepid producer lizzy caplan out is in the midst of all the action in new york with the latest hottest news from occupy wall street so if you want to know exactly what's going on on the ground you can follow her aunt lucy craft. and from new york to los angeles homeowners facing foreclosure at loudly express their shared grievances of the occupy wall street movement r.t. is among the lindo shows us how those affected by the financial collapse are fighting back against the system.

protesters took over all of america fresh in los angeles and will willing to get arrested in order to send a clear message to wall street. thanks to you. and we. want to have those in the where they can to the streets of los angeles now this move in a group of people from occupy los angeles in solidarity with high wall street and we have here people who have just been for those dark plenty of police here in force in order to keep this crowd in check the anti-corporate mobilizations which started in new york are spreading and now some of the most of back to buy the nation's economic crisis are killing rose goodell received an addiction notice after falling behind on her mortgage payments have workers. that i was hurt. also bored might be going to also had

a death or family which goes further financial hardship she claims her bank refused to deal with her which she tried to. negotiator mortgage could tell was arrested during a peaceful sit in earlier in the week but she believes that this type of political action. results they've been really governing out of but i'm very much to thank you and then ask and i think this is the stand that just the way from struggling homeowners to the unemployed people all walks of life are becoming involved and by the recent street demonstrations. they could not make. it past we ate it up here sent me and used to work at an auto parts plant is part of the four point five million people unemployed for more than a year now this father of two is struggling to hold on to his home he created this mess and they should be hold accountable the first groups have made up

the mobilization in cities across america in recent weeks as more people become inspired to fit their frustration with our financial and political institutions. that oh. there's still uncertainty about whether these protests will cause to rick james or whether other self interested people try to capitalize on the popularity but it appears that the financial state of the nation has helped motivate americans to take the moxie to the streets. ok this is this isn't a strike. in los angeles ramon the lindo archie. and before we go i want to take a second to welcome and congratulate the city of philadelphia the city of brotherly

love as the newest city to get our channel we are now able to reach over two million additional of yours and we are very excited about this latest expansion so congrats again. well that the burned out for more on the stories we covered go to artsy dot com slash usa and check out our youtube page it's youtube dot com slash are the america the big picture is coming up in a half hour but that's going to do it for me i'm liz wahl have a great night. she was the same of you i can tell by the way the taliban let's just be friends again pakistan u.s. relations face of breaking the law says pakistanis hedging its bets by making ties to me.