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it means that only a military mechanisms can do the work of how to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sorely sleep is think you understand it and then he glimpse something else you hear see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't know i'm trying hard welcomes the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here.
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it's time for you said it i read it and i take time to respond to my brilliance and engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you too because when you've got something to say i listen now first i'd like to respond to a viewer who watched our compilation of clips from fox news where they continuously argued against protecting corporate whistleblowers as was written into the god financial reform bill so beer and banjo said on you do this just in g.o.p. fox bad for america seriously folks how could anyone be against someone coming forward to report a crime it's the most insane thing i've heard today well i have to say is a beer and banjo that's what i've been saying honestly this is republican hypocrisy at its finest right wing will constantly go on about how concerned they are about this country the direction that it's heading in this is the crowd that cheers on
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punishing criminals heavily locking them up and throwing away the key crowd that cheers on our wars is our duty to bring justice and democracy to the world when it comes to actually trying to regain a sense of that justice here at home protect whistleblowers who pinpoint fraud of use and waste they say that it's bad for business personally but it makes me sick now let's move on to our next comment this viewer watched my interview with an experience last week and we discussed the occupy wall street movement and the fears that some of expressed about it being co-opted by the professional left like van jones and his take back the american dream conference and green three thousand said on you too by the way alone a van jones had his rebuild the dream conference scheduled long before occupy wall street happened just to keep you on it and i appreciate you keeping up with the facts and yes perhaps i didn't state it in the interview clearly enough van jones had planned a conference long before occupy wall street became a movement the same way the october two thousand and eleven movement was planned here in washington months ago who are saying now is people like van jones he was a. the momentum of occupy wall street to bring more attention to their own events
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to their own causes and some see that as a great step forward others of course are concerned about the movement being hijacked by the same powers that they're meant to be protesting i think only time is going to tell but we'll be sure to keep following it and finally our last comment comes from a viewer who really liked our show last thursday we went down to freedom plaza and conducted interviews on the ground black bird isms said on you tube i hope we hit the streets alone to do a live broadcast from freedom plaza and unfortunately you know the resources going to take our show down to freedom plaza and do it live but we're very happy like a change of scenery and thank you for watching i love going out there myself so we're going to try to find more opportunities to hit the streets as you say that's it for my ranting today but i'll have more for you later in the week. now in u.s. attorney general eric holder said that the government is actively pursuing a criminal investigation of wiki leaks he went to a grand jury in alexandria virginia has already heard from a few people involved in or tied to wiki leaks such as bradley manning supporter an
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outspoken critic of the we can because investigations to the house. i think every american citizen who hears about this we could be stranger you know its interest should be concerned because our for was to do with a week ago every morning and read all we have glorious us government is i want the media in this country as a free press as a whole before the state and this next. week is chilling the prospect every day it's going to. well now the government is looking into another well known hacker and human rights activist jacob apple bought a twenty year old album was also wiki leaks volunteer and we've mentioned it before on the show when the feds tried to get twitter to hand over his personal information when out of the o'jays utilized a secret court order called the twenty seven zero three d. order to obtain information about this man from google and i asked the sonic dot net so both companies were ordered to hand over information for e-mail account and provide details of who is corresponded with over the past two years and we should note that sonic the twenty seven zero three d. order because this isn't like your traditional search warrant the government
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initiatives kinds of orders without a warrant thanks to a law that they did back to nine hundred eighty six that of china communications privacy act to law enforcement is used not order and passed information requests and court orders like that twitter situation because they only need to show reasonable grounds that the information would be beneficial to an investigation so this legislation has been contentious for years especially in a lot of people question whether or not it violates a person's fourth amendment rights and in the past some courts have ruled that this type of order is being unconstitutional especially when it comes to reading or investigating someone's email or the d.o.j. used anyways in hopes of learning who out obama's communicated with and if there are any more wiki leaks volunteers of the government feels they need to know about . so due to the suspect nature of these types of secret orders a lot of tech companies out there are questioning if the inquiries being used for digital data more and more google microsoft and eight year teaming up to ask congress to revise their electronic communications privacy actual require search
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warrants for digital media investigations but in the meantime d.o.j. is a work on google and sonic dot net to get as much information out as possible and we should also note that our mom has not been charged with a crime so surprise surprise the witch hunt against wiki leaks just as strong as that it might have taken a backseat in recent months but revelations like these just go to show the government is in fact into ing continuing its vigorous search for anything they can sink their teeth into that might hold up in court. and it's june we first reported to you that pre-crime minority report style might soon become a reality where the feds can find a criminal before they strike. for our. place to serve more strictly serial killers. that was obviously the tom cruise version but the real life program that's being
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developed is called future attribute screening technology or fast so in june we found out the department of homeland security has been conducting tests for several months at an undisclosed location in the northeast united states now we might have a little bit more information as to how it works and who they plan to use it on and internal d.h. has documented been obtained under open government laws by the electronic privacy information center and seen it has been able to take a look so let's find out what's in it joining me to discuss this is declan mccullagh chief political correspondent and i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and so if you can give us some details here as to what more we learned about past it was specifically in this memo. right what happened is the electronic privacy information center sang the song in from right in the open government and it's dated last year and so it's not current but it's still more information than we had before and it says that fast is being tested on members of the public it
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also has the fastest collecting personally identifiable information and these are two data points we didn't have before especially the first one i mean what members of the public under what circumstances is being tested on is that or are they being told what is going on but they have a choice to off now and we gave the department of homeland security a few days to respond and they didn't but after article appeared i think they got enough pressure perhaps or that they did come up with a statement that says that the only thing that's on the volunteers the question is whose goal in tearing up we have some callers they have they haven't responded and so i think it's fair to say that this document that efforts obtained under for you really raises more questions than it answers now so before we reported to you know that according to there was an interview in a dot com that something was being carried out in the northeastern united states do we think in fact the same thing or is that separate. that's probably the same thing it looks like they're going through
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a few phases of testing they specify i think for round memory serves in this and other documents that have been pried loose from the department of homeland security and so if he sees the test the test and you can probably imagine gets larger more people are involved they indicated it might be a convention center in boston i've also heard from a separate source that might be an aunt's big if there's. i met one reason why and since your question goes to it one reason why this is controversial just because we don't know what's going on it would be one thing if they're very straight forward and treating this like a sort of science experiment we're seeing here the criteria of yours or yours how well it works and said the h.s. is treating this like a national security state secret and so they're being very tight lipped about it so all we can do is speculate everything's national security secret these days it's just so easy for them to say that ha well so tell us again how exactly it works how
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has technology going to monitor whether or not i might commit a crime right now chart with your heartbeat right house i have my time right blinking what else. well the version of minority report that a dick wrote was of course based on the site he. didn't mention the chances are slim is much more general and algorithms. and so it looks at things like movements it looks like body movements boyce pitch changes changes the in the pattern of talking even talking really fast and maybe i slow down look at things like i movements of body pretty much anything that you can measure a human body doing it's using to try to figure out whether you're going to commit a crime or not and so there's some hint in some of these froyo documents that they signed up. to produce
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a page in that spirit without saying what it is just putting people up for a contractor and then saying well half of you are going to be trying to smuggle the cameras into the stadium and i won't and then the goal of the system is to try to figure out which which happens which but these are just the hints of what they're doing we just don't know. yes there's got to be something better out there i mean you know i don't know about you but i find it a little bit disturbing because there's also been talk from the department homeland security that they might use something like this an airport you know i mean what are the chances that you're probably your heart rate is going to go off if you're stressing out because you think you're going to miss your flight you're going through security and you're taking everything out of your pockets and then getting felts out by the t.s.a. . you know if they find something else. you're right that a lot of the literature we're seeing publicly talk about using it or the airports which their own problems because they'll be there for your heart rate goes up and you're already stressed out about going through airport screening that all the sudden they know everyone is guilty of a crime because everyone's heart rate goes up there's
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a but there's also the h s document also obtained it's through the freedom of information that that talks about we find the quote. using fast to quote security checkpoint such as border crossings or at large public event such as sporting events or convention now that's just that's not what t.s.a. does see it is transportation security agency word ministration and so convention large warning events i mean i was going to be on certainly from the banks maybe it would be your employer and so this is the i think publicly they're saying you know use that airport but privately these documents suggest that they're being very impatient in terms of their future plans for this was definitely down sketchy here ask me and i'm sure they if they had it right now for protest they would be using the same thing to well that but if you guys do get your hands on any more information to let us now thanks so much for joining us tonight. so i. so come
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rushing to save money i george's county considers giving inmates firefighters now who are not nice full time segments other than happy hour t.v. ads saying that mormons are just like you and they are returning the airwaves but the rick perry attack at once but fact let's not. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think iraq the bombings eatable and wondered well. we never got there but says they're going to keep you safe get ready because the freedom.
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you know sometimes you see a story in the seems so silly is it you understand it and then you did something else here's some other part of it and realized everything is ok you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. see. if you just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old like this you know lived through. it incessant i am a total ghetto friends that i love driving hip hop is second hand for. he was kind of it yesterday. the little bit of
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a split. in the. room. i design for tonight's tool time of war and night it goes to lawmakers in town and county georgia like most local governments across the u.s. right now they're facing a budget shortfall so leaders in the county are trying to figure out how they can save some money get cheap labor i don't know boy do they have an idea using inmates as firefighters. very close with foreign fighters the suspect the community why one job is to give the biggest stars he says was it a thinking about enlisting a person earth to help with the fire department out of commissioners say that right now they don't have enough firefighters to meet the community but they don't have
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enough money to hire any new ones so they're considering a lower cost option. now lawmakers say they are properly trained firefighter cost camden county thirty thousand dollars a year i just not use slaves i mean inmates to work for free instead of possibly this plan with about how the million dollars a year by placing two or three inmates at each of the fire stations across the country and the idea might be a cost saver not everybody likes the thought of criminals protecting and serving the community several county firefighters contacted us they wanted to remain anonymous but said they feared for their safety and they and their families don't like the idea of working so hard for a profession it could be given to convicts. now county leaders say that the program is a fruit and makes charge of crimes like drug offenses and theft of the eligible but not murders so i guess that's good to know but if you're a resident camden county and your home is on fire do you really want an inmate showing up your home instead of
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a trained professional firefighter you know there's also the issue of who would supervise inmates at the fire station the program would only accept nonviolent offenders with good behavior and they'd be monitored by closed circuit television cameras and staff firefighters he says the county can't afford to hire any additional firefighters but at the same time residents need more public safety workers. so the firefighters are about to undergo more training just to guard the inmates i'm wondering if they're going to get a new raise for that role i thought the county was broke so county leaders are quick to point out the inmates would not be taking the jobs of any paid firefighters but if the program is a success do you think county leaders would stop hiring new firefighters in positions so open up of course they would because they're using free labor here and then what's to stop the county from hiring inmates to cut lawns make school lunches that area schools do minor highway and road jobs or clean county buildings you know the seemingly limitless number of criminals room or the jobless rate might never go
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down and georgia currently has an unemployment rate of ten point one percent sounds like the start of slave labor returning the good old south of the house to the great idea guys and that's are we giving count in county lawmakers tonight's tools and award. for happy hour and tonight's show and joining me this evening is our t.v. producer jenny churchill and laura mr host of the upcoming show capital accounts here on our teeth a little bit more of a given where we get to the other stories give everyone a quick little you know ok a lot of g ok latino are very hot but launching monday we're going to get a new show at the half hour show it'll air four thirty daily it will be focused on the economy and finance and kind of taking what we do on news but bringing it to its own platform where we can do a little bit more in-depth alternative financial analysis and reporting we're all
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very much looking forward to it so now let's get into the political world and some of the things that we have out there we have a lot of presidential candidates on today's happy hour in the stupid things they say you do let's start with herman cain. i've written for the gotcha courses and they are already sort of a car where they ask me who is the president of the becky becky because stansted i'm going to say you know i don't know you know i mean i'm going to three hundred that's going to create one job. i just love that i know he was obviously trying to make a joke and you bake you bacon egg a gate he said what are you going to be the president when you probably should go with the other countries are out there in the world and not act like asking who world leader is is a gotcha question if you ask me you know what i am actually less concerned about this comment he made and many of the other comments he's made about things that are more impactful on our domestic economic situation at least he's honest about the
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fact that he doesn't know a lot about foreign policy at this point which many people would argue most g.o.p. contenders are in that same situation but don't admit it i don't know you know are exactly right they just are hawkish on iran and that's it and i think when they don't we know virtually nothing about what any of these candidates think about foreign policy because no one is questioning them so then he's saying oh i can stand is kind of stupid we don't need to know that will actually come to do because it is in a stand and here's a point where you are going to stand we probably need to know about it because it's near afghanistan which we are fighting a war. like this is a god that's a gotcha question apparently and in herman cain's world now let's move on to rick perry who has a new campaign ad attacking mitt romney. well
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i'm a conservative businessman. and the white house has plenty of massachusetts law as well or it's a problem i can't agree with romney right jimmy carter throwing his weight behind it one day followed the path of the pursuit of trying to suggest i like him and he said no such thing i stand by what i wrote building the line about doing the same thing for everyone in the country is going to lead a life if it's good for massachusetts and it's a working message and says would you apply for the rest of the country. i would. so that's just the latest in a long string of these really epic hollywood style production apocalyptic ads like true top of the apocalyptic ads i would like to see a funny campaign ad that's a campaign answer or to be funny you know what we can get past the apocalyptic nature of this ad for one minute to bring light to what was not shown in that clip which is that album in cost has a cameo in. there you see i do you know yeah i definitely did not see that earlier
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today i'm a little i have no idea that you endorse perry a little bit but i do think that you think you know being outrageous there's something not right for rick perry who really doesn't watch the show because he's been on to cover this and you know you must've not of got that memo but i don't support mitt romney or rick perry got of getting all confused in my head but. you have a cameo i mean i think i think this ad does have a legitimate attack not that i'm you know against universal health care but that romney has been. has no backbone and i think we can attribute the drama to the fact that they are overcompensating for when perry told really botched his perch unity to two day old romney on the flip flopping and he just kind of couldn't get up and say look when you get this and then you did that but then you get in and we all i kind which i think were you done it with patrick was just before he was before. you
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even add just right but ever since the you are. ok this one is another presidential candidate rick santorum who use the old stuff all the time and here is talk about how much he hates gay people again but i put up a quote for you the army is not a sociological laboratory experimenting with army policy especially in a time of war would pose a danger to a session so you discipline and morale and with resulting ultimate defeat does that sound about right or. roughly yes that's a quote from colonel eugene householder who was in the army adjutant general's office in one nine hundred forty one arguing against racial integration of the military. which i like. that's a gotcha that's a good gotcha because if so is it true you know we keep hearing the same tired arguments used over and over and over again to you know keep us away from progress
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and so there was segregation now it's a segregation of a different kind when it comes to gay members of the military like kind of shocked it was fox news that actually i would say like they got to i couldn't believe that when i saw it it was like wait fox. and i think this is the this is the kind of gotcha question that i think is far more a luster to a compelling then herman cain's you know this really forces santorum to be caught not really uncomfortable situation where he's. how do you get out of it then what you got out of it was painful yet he said today that it's too many different you know i said the next two minutes trying to explain how you know people of different color are different people with different sexual orientation and then said that people gay people showering with people is very frightening to him. obviously they're on the wrong side of history because you know i mean if you look at any popular polls people support gay marriage these days so some point you have to give it up well religion also is the course
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a big thing when it comes to political campaigns but it just comes to running in general and mitt romney's mormonism has been something that you know might be a problem there been polls done on that as to whether he would vote for a mormon or not was it rick perry that said it means he's not a christian this weekend because he was a mormon it was a it was a. turn over after years of mentions to perry who called mormonism a cult i think he introduced and perry's campaign very certain to distance are well let's take a look at that we showed these guys before on this show about making mormonism cool and now they're back suspiciously right now. i am proud to retire i am an architect. i'm going to be paid for my main music mark cooper to leave them to yemen for more. markers kind of q
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thank you but i think being a beekeeper is a little weird i face a foot trying to normalise being important. and i get is how i am so very when they're. just going to crack me up you know i mean no i don't think that you know mormons are are so different from the read through and yes you can have a normal job. but i kind of funny really put together these big ads to you know to advertise it to the kind i think that they are facing are a lot of hurdles to overcome right now we've got the book of mormon the play on broadway that's clearly making fun of mormonism and people said that that actually made mormonism seem normal redemptive really yeah yeah that was the new york times analysis one columnist thought that would actually made from me more likely to get in maybe if i didn't want to be like you guys are out of time so i got a rabbit out of it thanks for joining me tonight all right that's a pretty nice out thanks for coming in make sure to come back tomorrow on the sites waldwick joining us for happy hour any time to forget to become a fan of the little show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of
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