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back to washington d.c. now part two of the i don't. it is time for you said it i read it take time to respond to my brilliance and engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you tube because when you've got something to say i listen now first i'd like to respond to a viewer who watched our compilation of clips from fox news where they continuously argued against protecting corporate whistleblowers as was written into the dog frank financial reform bill so beer and banjo said on you do this just in g.o.p. fox bad for america seriously folks how could anyone be against someone coming forward to report a crime it's the most insane thing i've heard today all i have to say is fake you beer and banjo that's what i've been saying honestly this is republican hypocrisy at its finest the right wing will constantly go on about how concerned they are about this country the direction that it's heading in this is the crowd that cheers
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on punishing criminals heavily locking them up and throwing away the key crowd that cheers on our wars is our duty to bring justice and democracy to the world when it comes to actually trying to regain a sense of that just as here at home protect whistleblowers who pinpoint fraud abuse and waste they say that it's bad for business personally that makes me sick now let's move on to our next comment this viewer watched my interview with anika sperry and last week we discussed the occupy wall street movement and the fears that some of expressed about it being co-opted by the professional left like van jones and his take back the american dream conference and green three thousand said on you tube by the way alone a van jones had his rebuild the dream conference scheduled long before occupy wall street happened just to keep you on it and i appreciate you keeping up with the facts and yes perhaps i didn't state it in the interview clearly enough van jones had planned his conference long before occupy wall street became a movement the same way as the october two thousand and eleven movement was planned here in washington months ago or seeing now is people like van jones using the
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momentum of occupy wall street to bring more attention to their own events to their own causes and some see that as a great step. forward others of course are concerned about the movie being hijacked by the same powers that they're meant to be protesting i think only time's going to tell that we'll be sure to keep following it and finally our last comment comes in a viewer who really liked our show last thursday we went down to freedom plaza and conducted interviews on the ground black bird isms said on you tube i hope we hit the streets alone to do a live broadcast from freedom plaza and unfortunately we don't the resources them over to take our show down to freedom plaza and do it live but we're very happy you like the change of scenery and thank you for watching i love going out there myself we're going to try to find more opportunities to hit the streets as you say as they are for my ranting today but i'll have more for you later in the week. now when u.s. attorney general eric holder says the government is actively pursuing a criminal investigation of wiki leaks he meant it a grand jury in alexandria virginia has already heard from a few people involved in or tied to wiki leaks such as bradley manning supporter an
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outspoken critic of the wiki leaks investigation david house. i think every american citizen who hears about this we give expression jury no xandra should be concerned because our for one don't want to wake up every morning and read only how glorious the u.s. government is i want to media in this country that is a free press that is healthy for the state and this nixonian grand jury behind me is chilling the prospect every day it's going to be. well now the government is looking into another well known hacker and human rights activist jacob apple bomb twenty year old was also wiki leaks volunteer and we've mentioned him before on the show when the feds tried to get twitter to hand over his personal information well now the d.o.j. is utilized a secret court order called the twenty seven zero three d. order to obtain information about this man from google and i have peace on it dot net so both companies are ordered to hand over information for e-mail account and provide details of who is corresponded with over the past two years and we should note that sonic bought the twenty seven zero three g.
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order because this isn't like your traditional search warrant the government can issue these kinds of orders without a warrant thanks to a law that dates back to one nine hundred eighty six the electronic communications privacy act a law enforcement is used that order and passed information requests and court orders like that twitter situation because they only need to show reasonable grounds that the information will be beneficial to an investigation so this legislation has been contentious for years especially in a lot of people question whether or not it violates a person's fourth amendment rights and in the past some courts are ruled that this type of order is being unconstitutional especially when it comes to reading or investigating someone's e-mail over the d.o.j. used anyways in hopes of learning who apple bob has communicated with and if there are any more wiki leaks volunteers that the government feels they need to know about so due to the suspect nature of these types of secret orders a lot of tech companies out there are questioning if the inquiries being used for digital data more and more google microsoft and eighteen and two year teaming up to ask congress to revise their electronic communications privacy act to require
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search warrants for digital media investigations but in the meantime d.o.j. is a worker. on google and site of dot net to get as much information on alpha bomb as possible we should also note the album has not been charged with a crime so surprise surprise the witch hunt against wiki leaks just as strong as ever might have taken a backseat in recent months but revelations like these just go to show the government is in fact into ing continuing its vigorous search for anything they can sink their teeth into that might hold up in court. and it's june when we first reported to you that pre-crime minority report style might soon become a reality where the feds can find a criminal before they strike. as it were howard marks. or. just. some remarks. a series of. art that was obviously the tom cruise version but the real life program is being
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developed as called future attribute screening technology or facts so in june they found out the department of homeland security had been conducting tests for several months at an undisclosed location in the northeast united states now we might have a little bit more information as to how it works and who they plan to use it on an internal d.h. has document has been obtained under open government laws by the electronic privacy information center and seen it has been able to take a look so let's find out what's in it joining me to discuss this is declan mccullagh chief political correspondent and i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and so if you can give us some details here as to what more we learned about fast it was specifically in this memo. right what happened at the electronic privacy information center obtained this document right in the open government and it's dated last year and so it's not current but it's still more information than we had before and it says that fast is being tested on members of the public it
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also says the fastest personally identifiable information and these are two data points we didn't force was the first one i mean what members of the public under what circumstances is being tested on is that are we being told what's going on do they have a choice to opt out and we gave the department of homeland security a few days to respond and they didn't but after article appeared i think they got enough pressure perhaps or. that they could come up with a statement that says it's only being tested on the volunteers the question is who's volunteering that we ask and some follow ups they have they haven't responded and so i think it's fair to say that this document that efforts obtained and therefore you really raises more questions than it answers now so before we reported to you know that according to there was an interview nature dot com that something was being carried out in the northeast united states do we think that's the same thing or is that separate that's probably the same thing it looks like this is going through
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a few phases of testing they specify i think four or five rounds of memory serves in this and other documents that have been pried loose from the department of homeland security and so it's a feature that has the test as you can probably imagine gets larger more people are involved. they indicated it might be at a convention center in boston i've also heard from a separate source that might be in ponce vegas there's room and one reason why and this is your question goes to it one reason why this is controversial just because we don't know what's going on it would be one thing if there were very straightforward and treating this like a sort of science experiment publishing here the criteria years there are here's how well it works and said the h.s. is treating this like a national security state secret and so they're being very tight lipped about it so all we can do is speculate everything's a national security secret these days it's just so easy for them to say that ha
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well so tell us again how exactly it works how has technology going to monitor whether or not i might commit a crime right now to start with your heartbeat right how far how many times are blinking what else. well the version of minority report that philip k. dick wrote was of course based on the site that was given some sort of free card mission d.h. as a surgeon is much more going to rely on algorithms and and so it looks at things like movements it looks like body movements voice pitch changes the changes in the pattern of talking even talking really fast and then maybe i slow down and look at things like i movements body heat pretty much anything that you can measure a human body doing it's using to try to figure out whether you're going to commit a crime or not and so there's some hints in some of these foyer documents that they find of people to participate in that spirit without saying what it is just signing
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people up for a contractor and then saying well half of the are going to be trying to smuggle the cameras into the stadium and half won't and then the goal of the system is to try to figure out which which half is which but these are just hints of what what they're doing we just don't know. yet there's got to be something better out there i mean you know i don't know value but i find it a little bit disturbing is that there's also been talk from the department homeland security that they might use something like this an airport you know i mean what are the chances that your probably your heart rate is going to go up if you're stressing out because you think you're going to miss your flight if you're going through security and you're taking everything out of your pockets and then getting felt up by the t.s.a. . you know if you can't they find something else. you're right that a lot of the literature we're seeing publicly talk about using it or the airport which their own problems because they've been if it's your heart rate goes up and you're already stressed out about going through airport screening that all the sudden they know everyone is guilty of
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a crime because everyone's heart rate goes up there's a but there's also the h s document also obtained through the freedom of information act that talks about when we find the quote. you. using fast to quote security checkpoints such as border crossings or at large public events such as sporting events or conventions that's just that's not what t.s.a. does c.s.a. is transportation security agency word ministration and so conventions large sporting events i mean that was going to be a concert that we could be banks maybe it could be your employer and so this is the i think publicly they're saying you know we use that airport but privately these documents suggest that they're being very ambitious and terms of their future plans for this file definitely sounds sketchy he asked me and i'm sure they if they had it right now for a protest they had been using the same thing tailback but if you guys do get your hands on any more information to let us now thanks so much for joining us tonight. so. so to come looking to save money
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around the area. while we see the always miss. one shot to. the drug industry's gold became the most want to trophy to. see. the list of our great times on our team. i design for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to lawmakers in camden county georgia the like most local governments across the u.s. right now they're facing a budget shortfall so leaders in the county are trying to figure out how they can save some money get cheap labor and all boy do they have an idea using inmates as firefighters. very close with foreign fighters to protect the community why one
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job is because first they says the first is if they're thinking about enlisting they prove the nurse to help with their fire department county commissioners they have that right now they don't have enough firefighters to beat the community but they don't have enough money to hire a new one so they're considering this as a lower cost option now lawmakers say that a properly trained firefighter cost camden county thirty thousand dollars a year to what i just not use slaves i mean inmates to work for free instead officials believe this plan would save about half a million dollars a year by placing two or three inmates at each of the fire stations across the country and while the idea might be a cost saver not everybody likes the thought of criminals protecting and serving the community. several county firefighters contacted us they wanted to remain anonymous but said they feared for their safety and they and their family don't like the idea of working so hard for a profession that could be given to convicts. now county leaders say it is
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a program is approved and made charged with crimes like drug offenses and theft of the eligible but not murder so i guess that's good to know but if you're a resident camden county and your home is on fire do you really want to inmate showing up your home instead of a trained professional firefighter you know there's also the issue of who would supervise inmates at the fire station the program would only accept nonviolent offenders with good behavior and they'd be monitored by closed circuit television cameras and staff firefighters he says the county can't afford to hire any additional firefighters but at the same time residents need more public safety workers. so the firefighters would have to undergo more training just to guard the inmates i'm wondering if they're going to get a new raise for that role i thought the county was broke so county leaders are quick to point out the inmates would not be taking the jobs of any paid firefighters but if the program is a success do you think county leaders would stop hiring new firefighters in positions open up of course they would because they're using free labor here and
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then what's to stop the county from hiring inmates to cut lawns make school lunches that area schools do minor highway and road jobs or clean county buildings you know the seemingly limitless number of criminals don't bore the jobless rate might never go down and georgia currently has an unemployment rate of ten point one percent so sounds like the start of slave labor returning to the good old south of you ask me great idea guys and that's are we giving count and county lawmakers tonight's tool time award. for happy hour and tonight's show and joining me this evening is our two producer jenny churchill and lauren lister host of the upcoming show capital account here on our t.v. a little bit more of a given where we get to the other stories give everyone a quick little you know ok a lot of g ok
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a lot i know of where i'm off but launching monday we're going to get a new show it's a half hour show it'll air for thirty daily it will be focused on the economy and finance and kind of taking what we do on news but bringing it to its own platform where we can do a little bit more in-depth alternative financial analysis and reporting and while we're all very much looking forward to it so now let's get into the political world and some of the things that we have out there we have a lot of presidential candidates on today's happy hour in the stupid things they say and do let's start with herman cain. i'm ready for the gotcha questions and they already started the car and when they asked me who's the president of you becky becky becky becky stan stan i'm going to say you know i don't know do you know i mean i'm going to say how's that going to create one job. i just love i mean i know he was obviously trying to kid make a joke a new baking baking bake a gate gave his dad and it are going to be the president then you probably should
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know what the other countries are out there in the world and not act like asking who world leader is is a gotcha question if you ask me you know what i am actually less concerned about this comment he made and then many of the other comments he's made about things that are more impactful on our domestic economic situation at least he's honest about the fact that he doesn't know a lot about foreign policy at this point which many people would argue most g.o.p. contenders are in that same situation but don't admit it i don't know now are going to that right that they just are hawkish on here on and that's it and that's a doubt everything when they don't we know virtually nothing about what any of these candidates think about foreign policy because no one's questioning them so then he's saying oh no i can stand on this is kind of stupid we don't need to know that will actually come to do because it is in the stand and here's a point where you know i didn't understand we probably need to know about it because it's near afghanistan in which we are fighting a war oh i love your love but i like that it's just a god that's
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a gotcha question apparently and in herman cain's world now let's move on to rick perry who has a new campaign ad attacking mitt romney. well i'm a conservative just. like when this law is no more complicated. you make your point and it won't. any problem the path that we pursued will find it's the best i like and the player said no such thing i stand by what i wrote and building the line about doing the same thing for everyone in the country has been deleted why if it's good for massachusetts and it's working massachusetts would you apply it to the rest of the country. i would. so that's just the latest in a long string of these really epic hollywood style production apocalyptic ads like result of the apocalyptic ads i would like to see a funny campaign ad that's
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a campaign answer for it to be funny you know what we can get past the apocalyptic nature of this ad for one minute to bring light to what was not shown in that clip which is that a lot of men cost has a cameo in that ad there see i do you know i definitely did not think that earlier today i'm a little i had no idea that you endorse perry no he was a little bit but i do think that anything i did being outrageous or something. but rick perry clearly doesn't watch the show because he's been on tonight i don't have a lot of time to do you must not have got that memo but you know i don't support mitt romney or rick perry got of getting all confused in my head but. you have a cameo i mean i think i think this ad does have a legitimate attack not that i'm you know against universal health care but that romney has been so out of it has no backbone and i think we can attribute the drama to the fact that they are overcompensating for when perry told only botched his
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opportunity to today old romney on the flip flopping and he just kind of couldn't get up and say like when you get this and then you did that but then you do it and we all i kind of wish i mean were you done it with that big boys just go before he was before you know in an ad just might have bought it of a sense of humor. ok this one is another presidential candidate rick santorum who used. stuff all the time and here is talk about how much you hate gay people again . but to put up a quote for you the army is not a sociological laboratory experimenting with army policy especially in a time of war would pose a danger to a fish and sea discipline and morale and was resulting ultimate defeat does that sound about right sir. roughly yes that's a quote from colonel eugene householder who was in the army adjutant general's office in one nine hundred forty one arguing against racial integration of the
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military. i don't like. that that's a gotcha that's a good gotcha because it says it true you know we keep hearing the same tired arguments used over and over and over again to you know keep us away from progress and so there was segregation now it's a segregation of a different kind when it comes to you know gay members of the military and i like kind of shocked it was fox news that actually did to him i was like they got a i couldn't believe that when i saw it it was like wait fox fox did well and i think this is this is the kind of gotcha question that i think is far more a luster to it and compelling then herman cain's you know this really forces santorum to be caught not really uncomfortable situation where he's gotten trapped and how do you get out of it and the way you got out of it was painful yes to say that it's too many different yes in the next two minutes trying to explain how you know people of different color are different than people with different sexual orientation and then said that people gay people showering with people is very
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frightening to him. obviously they're on the wrong side of history because you know i mean if you look at any popular polls people support gay marriage these days so some point you have to give it up well religion also is of course a big thing when it comes to political campaigns or just comes to running in general and mitt romney's mormonism has been something that you know might be a problem there are been polls done on that as to whether people would vote for a mormon or not was it rick perry but said i mean he's not a christian this weekend because he was a mormon it was a it was a. tragedy every year there was a mentions to perry who called mormonism a cult i think he introduced and perry's can't made very certain to distance i will look at let's take a look at that we showed these ads before on this show about making mormonism cool and now they're back suspiciously right now. i am proud to be tell you
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i am an architect. ok i was going to. be cheaper i'm a music mark cooper it's really me and i am a more more. market kind of q i'm not the only people but i think being a beekeeper is a little weird aren't they set foot trying to normalize being a. first. good talent is so varied when they. do you know if they're just going to crack me up you know i mean no i don't think that you know mormons are are so different from the rest of us yes you can have a normal job and be a blow but i could kind of funny really put together these big ads to you know to advertise it to the kind because i think that they are facing a lot of hurdles to overcome right now we've got the book of mormon the play on broadway that's clearly making fun of mormonism and people said that that actually gave made mormonism seem normal redemptive really yeah yeah that was the new york times analysis one columnist thought that would actually make romney more likely to
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be eliminated by the army i do feel like you guys are out of time so i got to wrap it up with things for joining me tonight thank you all right that's it for nights out thanks for tuning in make sure to come back tomorrow and the sights waldwick joining us for half the hour meantime don't forget to become a fan of the lower show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of tonight's or any other night it was captured on you tube dot com watched a lot of show and coming up next. a very warm welcome to you this is your news today protesters on the. streets they have. ladies and gentlemen to try to get the status of the human experiment. after two weeks you will probably see this news. or dixon knows the globe is allegedly trying to make sense of global
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