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i was here in new york city in for pradeep large fire was three series we finished the show this evening we jumped in a car and got here is passes because about one thirty in the morning it's already started raining it's going to be raining for they say the next twelve hours and there's a lot of excitement here you still hear a lot of chanting but also a lot of tension because the cops are supposed to show up at seven o'clock in the morning if you look over here you already see a big line of police cars and that's when the start cleaning the park out as the mayor ordered now they say they're going to let people back in but they say no sleeping bags so you can see why the protesters consider this an eviction notice so they've been preparing for the worst holding meetings all evening saw what happens if you get arrested if you're in jail what your rights are and it seems like
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a lot of people really are preparing for a showdown there might be a lot more people in the morning so you are going to have to wait and see what happens but from the people that i spoke to they said that when they asked for was willing to get arrested a lot of hands went up so only the morning i'll tell what happens. welcome delana shouting at the real headlines with none of the mersey now as you can tell tonight we're coming live out of new york city we've been covering occupy wall street movement since the day that again and so we decided you know what it's just not right unless we bring our team up we come down here and we check it out for ourselves so tonight it's going to be completely dedicated to occupy wall street coverage now as you saw last night we first got here one thirty two o'clock in the morning the mood is pretty tense they thought the police are going to show up at seven o'clock in the morning but this morning it was announced that they had
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rescinded brookfield but rescinded that move to have a part clean up so check out what it looked like after that announcement was made. around the street may not be any more opposite the second the other party in town maybe the police but the bread. never broke out to greet. them on the drums or the like from our families even their wives by our other words by part of the ride to the mercy of the police and the rest but if anything the fact. that the same they're starting up for that is appealing to the but they feel like they've won the day in the battle. so as you can tell everybody was in pretty good mood today and so one of the things about this movement is that it doesn't have
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a leader and the critics of the movement think that this is something that's bad about it this is what's going to make it fail but if you talk to the people that are there that's what they love about it is that there is no hierarchy here this is a democracy the whole general assemblies everyone's voice is heard but at the same time there are a few faces that have become i guess you could say a little more recognizable one of those is a protester named jesse at le grande and the way he became recognizable is first because he did a number of interviews with mainstream media outlets where i'd like to say think that he really demolished them so first we're going to show you some good clips of what he said to them and then you can check out the interview that he did with us. the reality is i'm only working class person you're going to see on sunday news political news media ever and i think that's very indicative of the failures of our media to report on the news that matter most to where we are trying our best to see and i want to thank you unfortunately it's fun for all to. especially search
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for such stuff because we find that we can't because she's tough the market just when you finish the sport we should wish you or. you could certainly especially like you know where teachers let's work for the thirty years that are living standards to reach well the first ten or the i think it's time for maybe on those participation in our democracy that is if the by news cameras the so. i think that you know this point basically what happened is that the fox news interview they didn't air the interview somehow it ended up on the internet and they're like the most famous guy that never got air out of that deal. it's that i got like got the raw materials back in my apartment it's not like paying off the set but you know that's not the point it's everybody here it's our future it's our jobs our homes our health care education so if i'm in a position where i can really fight for what i believe in my family and that's what we. want you know i think this thing is
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a really happy one of the better known face of this that this might lead to consider media if you can say to me the media ignored the movement now there are kind of cameras here but you're on the sunday morning talk show you said i'm probably the only working high person you're ever in the seat on a sunday top that you still think of that serial absolutely i mean the wall street journal wrote a really happy where they didn't mention how i got on a.b.c. by second boss news and news corp but he called me a is the animatronic version of a revolutionary and it's funny because the i guess kind of caught leigh's he said he was on the disney own channel he must be a cartoon character then they were to his. spouse of the working class backgrounds of the members of the panel and i'd just like to say on behalf of them they're not sleeping in this morning they're not losing their health insurance they're not worried about their families losing their homes losing their jobs poppy what education so with all respect to these the battle of the a.b.c. this week lastly i want to bad mouth them but as for the hack down of news corp oh
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yeah he's a graphic i like to see democrats are racist because they feel that black people as opposed to calling them and he's like the republican party like. are you revolutionary i would like to think that i'm a reformer at heart i mean you know dr martin luther king jr turned this sort of move in a revolution dr cornel west told us not to be afraid to use that word and i feel that you know the hardest thing is we're just asking the quarrying to stop that's a big thing you know they're really trying to repeal the twentieth century i don't think it's revolutionary to stand for what we fought for twenty years ago four years ago sixty years ago and say no you're not going to steal this too so if that's you know class warfare in areas that sign me off you know ok tell me exactly what it is you think this crime is right you could say that it's the crime that was great about it in terms of taking our economy hadn't ever being held accountable but it's not just wall street you know in the back by lottery and never and also probably no i mean you have what i would call you know the political economic complex one hand washes the other the private sector hires the politicians they
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want when they're in office they do their bidding and then they're guaranteed a job in this section of the economy that they have oversight over once they leave office so it's in these on legalized bribery system provide one of you is that it's the a private industries that drive the politicians to the private industries or at the top of the apex of the corruption and when you look at like specific a soprano that's i.e.d. wrote a great piece about whether the f.c.c. is covering a price for wall street and if i would have used the same title without the question mark i really respect that i did not see any heat but when the f.c.c. starts investigating one of these crimes then goldman sachs like hire the in. then they take. the initial motion to investigate they just destroy the documents and that's illegal so my opinion it's not only corporate crime it's corporate capture of our government and if we really believe in democracy we can allow b.p. to buy that isn't the government then just as responsible for you know the actors in the government for allowing himself to be corrupted and to be bribed it is i
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told you agree i think we need peter in the finance reform i think when you have a major restructuring of just our political system i also think at the same time i don't want the flag away from the real culprit here which is wall street you know it's almost like if you got paid by somebody to rob a bank we still view person who actually was the bigger person being the killer i think they're both guilty and i really don't want to deflect away from that who i think is the real actor in this at major financial institutions ok so i'm just wondering to you know i've spoken to tea partiers and i thank you very type of a message i could be getting here and you know what went wrong but they went down the political route and they're saying that this is how this movement should go to about if they know the entire system needs to be a point though you still think that by voting by passing legislation maybe revealing you know passing minutes to the constitution to get rid of the supreme court citizens united ruling that can still function you don't need it completely i think you know i think you need for both angles because let's be honest let's say
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you're going to start a third party you're talking it's one of your whichever four you split there is going to be in the wilderness like do we really want twenty years of republican control of congress no way so i think you need both mechanisms the thing with the tea party was their agenda was to elect republicans their agenda was the revenge of the already from their soiled name under george w. bush and these they succeeded because the media just pretended they didn't know what was happening that gives you not by wall street and the tea party is odd but will says about changing the future about making the future better the tea party was about going backwards into a past where there is no civil rights no labor rights no government at all so i think the two are diametrically. pose but the keyboard part of the other ninety nine percent is you know these people i'm sure that they have trouble of work on of women i think imagine what they think when their politicians tell them oh you must be lazy you know i'm sure there are tea partiers who don't have health insurance or danger but for their health insurance i only wonder how they rationalize voting against a reform bill that they sell i mean let's look at this if they honestly think that
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the government has no role in creating jobs or governing the economy how do they dare have an opinion on it but at the same time they've begun a case that the latest keep running out of that advice that he said that all these occupy wall street people want sherrybaby that las vegas for rapid development and happening they just want bigger gigantic government is that true though you just want a government that works very hard i say then i want a good government one that functions properly and the right wing wants a credible government that can just be steamrolled by walls so to me that's you've already it's just been doing all of the legwork for the wall street i mean they've really been very very good to them and it says to me everything that this movement wants to push for a better direct citizens than oxy whereas it's the party was a laugh about electing house republicans who would vote against abortion and block obama's jobs bill i mean the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell beast said my number one priority is to end the obama presidency it should've been jobs right i mean how comparable is that with all the hysteria even their own hysteria about the
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deficit they still admit their number one goal is to sabotage the present united states how is that possible good service to america if anything when nine eleven happened we all said oh we have to support bush you know i didn't vote for bush but i supported him at that moment in history because it was about america why is this not a similar moment in history where we're facing this massive crisis and these guys just can't get over the partisan nonsense they can't get over the petty bickering and it's not helping i really think it's hurting us if their plan was to filibuster the entire obama presidency so they could blame all bush's disaster on him they're very they've been doing a heck of a job. brown you know but at the same time how do you feel about obama would you vote for obama in two thousand and twelve if i don't know dog by wasim of me dies down ever and camped out for a couple of months and then it goes away you know it might be the plate right now with democrats on the many things is that they're lending us our support and i appreciate that but i don't need your platitudes i don't need nice words i need
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action i need them to actually take wall street on see what they're doing right now is saying we support by wall street but they're not see the about all the fine secret place that was there it's all about oversight or indictments i mean if i did you could write charges guys under rico it really is a very connected intricate web of lies that they've spread so to the democrats out there i'd just like to send a message that you will not co-author us if you really want to show us some support about being leaders yourselves but until then because our government has ceased to function we've created one of our own and to me this isn't about capitalism i'm not against capitalism i'm against crime i only wish the democratic party was against it as much as i and maybe then i'd feel stronger exporting ok so we're talking about when certain type of crime is going on and punished right if it's really kind of the mob street how do you tax but that way lever see here i mean there have been that arrests right seven hundred people arrested on the brooklyn bridge there are a number of arrests today for people jumping over a barricade standing in the middle of the street. i mean when it comes to president
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obama his cabinet positions have just been in the pocket of wall street his policies have been washed more conservative than i would care for and it really kind of blows my mind you know we see the results of these failed conservative policies under bush why does the think that the seeing all these under obama would yield anything other than a sea of failed results you know yeah but obama is responsible for the cops that are younger and they're doing their jobs but when you think about it just you know the daily it being the bad in our country focuses on what you say that line order that justice actually get here i see the you know it's kind of like a ninety nine percent versus one percent i think there are a lot of cops are good guys i've got some of my best friends. when i was eight years old i am like me right now so i really have a hard time saying it be derogatory about and white the i would say that if we value our second amendment and sentimental rights then we should pay close attention to the right to freedom of assembly as i didn't see anything in the constitution saying you can only assemble till eleven pm or if the park is clean or anything the monad nonsense i think that's very extra constitutional so when it
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comes to civil liberties yeah pay tax because you know especially since these reactors we are turning into a more closed society i want to hold the site you know i want oversight you with all that freedom and liberty and you better gotcha you know also with stuff that they need here in the media but i don't see that it seems like seeing people who go on about also betty gotcha and they don't really care about spying on citizens cellphones people devious core of his kuantan and oh miss it offenses against civil liberties and i think if you're really a constitutional be true then you can't just be you know buff a style constitutional petri can't see the parts you like be the parts you don't like it's all hoping or nothing you know i get and i think it's something that you very much i appreciate it sir. all right we're taking a quick break but there is a lot more where that came from as we continue our entire show that dedicated to occupy wall street now it might be in here right here in new york where occupy wall street began but we know it's spreading across the country so we're going to speak
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to some other occupiers in d.c. and los angeles and britain have a special guest they the house. you should only. go to bring justice for accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i think that's. what i would characterize obama as the terrorism. of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else some other part of it and realize that everything is all. i'm trying hard to the big picture.
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welcome to the capitol like i'm heartless. so you believe well you know. what protesting nobody seems to know. that never
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appropriate to face the argument that they're being overly dramatic. i know like i said new york city might be the epicenter where the humble beginnings of the occupy wall street movement began but as you know it's spread across the country around the world even but we sent our producers where we could in d.c. and in los angeles to get some messages from the occupiers there and then later on the show we're also going to bring them to occupiers here in new york take a look. this is history in the making as far as i'm concerned the idea that there are people starving in america is unconscionable the fact that people are starving around the world is unimaginable but here where people have such well it it it
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doesn't make any sense and we all know this and it needs to change you guys got so much money that is unnecessary that you are dealing with you are just buying more housing buying more material that you just don't need millions of americans get pushed into poverty and homelessness and there are tent cities in central california that i cannot believe exist in my own country you know just open your eyes and take a look it's only going to get worse all they hear occupy d.c. because money runs everything in america we have the rule by the rich and what we need is the rule by the people people to the scene they you know as soon as you get private banks teaming up with big corporations that it's the ninety nine percent of the people that you know wind up being pushed to the bottom and that's exactly what happened and you know people actually did something there's an opportunity now to not be silent and complicit with. agree with we want good jobs back in our communities we want corporations to be held accountable by paying their fair share
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paying taxes and invest in our community but i'd like to see is the occupation movement against legitimacy as able to rebuild institutions the way we want them to be and so we make the government irrelevant i think we're going to win i think it's going to change i think we're going to embarrass the people who are busy in lear jets sailing yachts while people are living in the street cars of time and maybe someday they will give in to what we are doing and help us out there's a spare an american now that has a sense that maybe the people can actually make something happen i don't think that americans have that spirit for a very long time the five hundred thirty five men and one. congress there are no they've got their finger to the wind and the more wind we give them the more the pattern will start to shift the cowards will become less cowardly and brave ones who become more bold inside capitol hill. parts of the way that we first found out
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about occupy wall street is that people started sending us messages on twitter sending us messages on facebook they literally started blowing us up about it so you can't deny here that social media technology played a very important role in getting the word out and i guess you compare that to to the arab spring to the protests we've seen rise up around the world who better talk to us about that than david how someone who's been a frequent guest on our show. so david i think a lot of people know you because you're a cocker because you're a friend of bradley manning packer supporter of grabbing things out here with the beliefs but leaving here like you've got the occupy wall street protests dr singh occupied one of the mosques and meters you ought to highlight that it's much like it or here it's a bunch of stupid people bother to come together because they're very upset about the state of there and they've got some criticism of the water there the man they really want me to come down to the floor and you get the sense of everyone from the
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present economic condition of. the world up was it was very interesting i actually talked to her experience the socialists the republicans to get a proper place to get their ideas out watch the fix upon it but i came down here to be part of the process and to help i feel is the public a very popular movement. that will like when you walk around here speak to the experience republicans and democrats everybody loss of life because we've seen a lot of really was. really only you know left wing movement and just a lot of young this last straw poll it's important to know that the media paints this as an artist or whatever. certain obligations i say to the principals the people who are opposing the economic condition of this country is obviously very bad it's an economic condition it's called nearly fifty percent unemployment among americans has kept students from receiving loans and it may have
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to work very hard to get a job out of school to step away from that if you think sutter this is a situation which many who are very upset about and obviously the news media has been somewhat in bed with these major corporations fox news of mississippi c c n n so course they're going to pay just protests as a marginal like to me when you come down here it's not these are american citizens these are people that lead red white blue and they're here. the point and some of the world's problems in the drug market i'm going to say because you do a lot about the price of dollars or something like that it's on the down here and see this you see it also a lot of people that are full time to this this is what they live the eat more you know how do they compare to the young adults that maybe eat right now feel like this ban and i'm very sad they can't get a job and they want to act out just right it's not right when you don't see it obviously a lot of the time out of it i would say here most people i've met are people who
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just walk away from the streets of new york and say what's going on they grab a lawyer and then they come back they want to get all your circuit you or use their shower or you folks to the library this is a very community led operation and that's why it's very bizarre that you hear these talking points for going back to rush limbaugh all these people are somehow the pressure to walk to the to the drawing halls i'm going to mark the fifth and it's hard to hear that and it's a look at new yorkers leave her people called off and give them food and say that you are doing this organization on the wall street has raised over one hundred fifty dollars us dollars and if we didn't hear you and you got it right you walk me through that with your community but that's supported by the people of the city the people of the state now we're seeing this spread not only across the country you know it's a it's already outside of new york it's the most major cities including possibly what gets you but it's also spreading around the world more than seventy countries are having this october and. i think that's really some development because originally where i thought i lost it again it's not the answer that was asking
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where's america's there we're where right where we have our american spring and so we were sort of playing off what was going on in the middle east as a now how do you see that dynamic change or is this still a continuation of what the arab street started it's only you know passing through the last continue on around the world or is occupy wall street now influencing others and that's a very good question but i think it is related to the technology of the internet. about a political. the internet really does the basic it allows you what i think communicate in ways that we may not have been able to communicate we're not able to collectivize around certain ideas they want to be able to wrongly get all those ideas to go out of the concert way before this idea of what the internet daws really creates a marketplace of ideas which is what democracy should be all the time so by kind of degradative the traditional media control over talking points of information making pundits are relevant they can in your times the role that putting information democratization the heads of people what you get is a movement like this
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a true democracy that is spread by technology so yes this is hard to hear square and to hear square is because of the internet it's completely amazing technology which driving this movement and that's really the fuel for topping right here on wall street somebody thinks really it's a good system where they actually have access economics and i can force yourself on people well that's not an injustice poverty whatever you want to call it where they barely have a dollar a day to live on our access to water or any good let alone self like right now there's a huge digital divide especially joe we saw all the protests which we're going to be a still photo because the water was one of those ideas that spread people still had to go into the community to do to be worth their while the people but how about just to get through not to say these ideas to get to work was interesting it's about you that each of them were able to work together and old boy to come up with the best ideas the ones that would appeal to the masses the pows and then go out
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there and spread that message really took over it took over so we're seeing the same thing here occupy wall street is a democratic process where people have gathered together a law and business in order to find out what solutions we can offer what's it going to a solution that's certain that we're going to go in the community and spread this idea and we don't think that's what it's about it's not about people who are beating people about leading an idea now when you read stuff. the same player role played a role in the arab spring revolutions something said here i think that wiki leaks playing a role i mean of course the museum. can send more lots of rock or a lot of the stuff a lot of that practice is state department cables they are not the thing that was the big most of it came to the right behind us that we could make strong and people possible how do we get it right which is an art installation we're going to showcase with you and they always have a comment like no i want to that's really what you think going to get you people are conversational and you learn that most everyone here has heard of that we can
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be civilization and if you want to go if you want to say to me that oppose wiki leaks world they would say they'd say definitely you know it seems like we complete surprise somehow this story some dignity back of all the people i really showing that we are and how we're through the use of technology no longer we just in the street just screaming into the void screaming it was building the we go a lot we can use our information resources to accomplish the truck through trial and state authority in a real meaningful way that's what we could be showed us and that's their legacy right now that's their legacy here on my left is that you think that's likely to live with the star wars everything is very much that there are a lot of questions it's going to be supporting the sides more of the same definitely so i would give it some showed us is that such a is because you're on capitol hill the senate and i decided to close some problems
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through consulting with them it's like you said this really does just say it's really the same principles that people have as it is to do stories about people being killed overseas or be tortured nothing on the step whatever happens if you will decide whether happens that would you meet with a little fire in the five rebels we do know the prosecution sweep across the world i believe in the form of occupy wall street is there a legacy gas stuff that we can think we can fix that legacy now i'm sorry i said it . i think this out of three and i would take. what you did i'm bringing up once here i did say where the skinny guy actually thinks this is i think that's what we have lost as a nation the culpability and now we have a leader that we can go to and say listen you've been incompetent we're a bit more old they picked him out of office we really have no basis that society able to judge each other for judging our peers when i walk down the street and i see you a lot of walking down the street i feel like i'm an american if you're an american
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or a little bit if our leaders are the same walls that we're in there because we're back now with my that system those are our principles that our values and what our leader george bush are about her sacrifice is that the boy they say the constitution doesn't apply if you're not going to lead they undercut the process and so what this is about is restoring values back to america having your community college about together and so you want to our principles are for principle a good to go back to reason like bonaire ideals and let's adopt them and look at what i did a lot so that's my job and i bring the table i think the values the stereotype or that what we are taught by wall street is what we need this country now lastly i think it is that this interview with something thank you for taking the time to get on a bus and go back to boston and when i fly boston where you say you're going for the winter and they camp out are you going to be very much present for the sell everything as much as possible definitely i mean also not some cold winters and one of the just problems that is how to keep people warm during the occupation during this whole time.

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