carl here we are in new york city in fact adi barkan occupy wall street as soon as we finish the show this evening we jumped in the car and got here as basses because about one thirty in the morning already started raining it's going to be raining for they say the next twelve hours and there's a lot of excitement here you still hear a lot of chanting but also a lot of tension because the cops are supposed to show up at seven o'clock in the morning if you look over here you already see a big line of police progress not swinging the start cleaning the park out as the mayor ordered now they say they're going to let people back in but they say no sleeping bags so you can see why the protesters consider this an eviction notice so they've been preparing for the worst holding meetings all evening talking about what happens if you get arrested if you're in jail what your rights are and it

seems like a lot of people really are preparing for a showdown there might be a lot more people in the morning so you are going to have to wait and see what happens but from the people that i spoke to they said that when they asked for was willing to get arrested a lot of hands went up so only the morning i'll tell what happens. i can be alone or shall i get the real headlines with none of the mersey now as you can tell tonight we're coming live out of new york city we've been covering occupy wall street movement since the day that it began and so we decided you know what it's just not right unless we bring our team we come down here and we check it out for ourselves so tonight it's going to be completely dedicated to occupy wall street coverage now as you saw last night we first got here one thirty two o'clock in the morning the mood is pretty tense they thought the police were going to show

up at seven o'clock in the morning but this morning it was announced that they had it rescinded brookfield had rescinded that move to have a part clean up so check out what it looked like after that announcement was made. around the break. not be any more obvious in the back of the other party and. i think. the bread because everybody broke out to greet. him on the grounds that all the signs from our family's. life by our other words you guys are the at the mercy of the police and the rest but if you think if . they. started number seven to be the alibi they feel like maybe one day the battle. so as you can tell everybody was in pretty good mood today and so one of the things about this movement is that it

doesn't have a leader right and the critics of the movement think that this is something that's bad about it this is what's going to make it fail but if you talk to the people that are there that's what they love about it is that there is no hierarchy here this is a democracy the whole general assembly everyone's voice is heard but at the same time there are a few faces that have become i guess you could say a little more recognizable one of those is a protester named jesse at le greca and the way he became recognizable is first because he did a number of interviews with mainstream media outlets where i'd like to say that he really demolished them so first we're going to show you some good clips of what he said to them and then you can check out the interview that he did with us. the reality is i'm only working class person you're going to see on sunday news political news media and i think that's a very in the failures of our media to report on the news that matter most work we are trying our best to see and i want to thank you unfortunately it's one of the faults of. the two especially conservative such as yourself because we find that we

can't because she's such a perfect justice we can fix these things put rich which. we can certainly especially like you know fired for teaching the place for the thirty years and living standards decrease well that's one percent better than i think it's time for maybe a little support this is our democracy that is it funded by news cameras just the same. so at this point basically what happened is a fox news interview then didn't air the interview so now it ended up on the internet and you're like the most famous guy that never got air out of that deal. considering i got like other raw materials back in my apartment it's not like paying off the set but you know that's not the point it's everybody here it's our future it's our jobs our homes our health care education so if i'm in a position where i can really fight for what i believe in life i mean. that's

really. what you know i think this thing is a really happy one of the better known face of this that this might please pick up the media and everything to say to me to be ignoring the movement now there are kind of cameras here but you're on the sunday morning talk show you that i'm probably the only recognized person you're ever going to see on it then they've got to do something about syria absolutely i mean the wall street journal wrote a really happy where they didn't mention how i got on he says by exact cost news in this war but the declaw me a is the animatronic version of a revolutionary and it's funny because the i just kind of got lee's he said he was on the disney own channel he must be a cartoon character then they went to his. spouse of the working class backgrounds of the members of the panel and i'd just like to say on behalf of them they're not sleeping in this park they're not losing their health insurance they're not worried about their families losing their homes losing their jobs not be able to forge kishen so with all respect to these the battle of the a.b.c. this week from last week i don't want to bad mouth them but as for that crackdown

a new store creation oh yeah he's the kind of guy who likes to see democrats are racist because they feel that black people as opposed to calling them and he's like are above the board like. are you revolutionary i would like to think that i'm a reformer at heart i mean you know dr martin luther king jr turned this sort of movement a revolution. cornell west told us not to be afraid to use that word and i feel that you know the hardest thing is we're just asking the crime to stop that's a big thing you know they're really trying to repeal the twentieth century i don't think it's revolutionary to stand for what we fought for twenty years ago four years ago sixty years ago and say no you're not going to steal this year so if that's you know class warfare in areas that sign me up you know ok tell me exactly what it is you think this crime is right you could say that if the crime that was great committed in terms of taking our economy and it never being held accountable but it's not just wall street you know in the back by lottery and never on all smuggling i mean you have what i would call you know the political economic complex

one hand washes the other the private sector hires the politicians they want when they're in office they do their bidding and then they're guaranteed a job in this section of the economy that they have oversight over once they leave office so to me it's all legalized bribery system my point of view is that it's the a private industries that private politicians in the private industries are at the top of the apex of the corruption and when you look at like specific cases of fraud max i.e.d. wrote a great piece about whether the f.c.c. is covering up crimes for wall street and if i would have used the same title without the question mark i really respect that i did not see any heat but when the f.c.c. starts investigating one of these crimes then the goldman sachs' like hire the end . then they take. the initial motion to investigate they just destroy the documents and that's illegal so my opinion it's not only corporate crime it's corporate capture of our government and if we really believe in democracy we can allow b.p. to buy back in the government and just as responsible for you know the actors in

the government for allowing himself to be corrupted and pretty bright it is i told you agree i think we need these are campaign finance reform i think when you're major restructuring of the us our political system i also think at the same time that i don't want the flag away from the real culprit here which is wall street you know it's almost like if you got paid by someone to rob a bank who's guilty or first you actually robbed a bank or the person to be in the queue i think they're both guilty and i really don't want to deflect away from that who i think is the real actor in this at these are friends list ok so i'm just wondering to you know i've spoken to keep party here and i think i have the same message at the beginning here and so what went wrong but they went down the political route and they're saying that this is how this movement should go to that others say no the entire system needs to be reformed so you still think that by voting by passing legislation maybe revealing a passing benefit of the constitution to get rid of the supreme court citizens united ruling that can still function you don't need a leap of faith you know i think you need from both angles because let's be honest

that's the you're going to start a third party you're talking that's one of your group or whichever party you split there is going to be the other it's like do we really want twenty years of republican controlled congress no way so i think you need both mechanisms the thing with the tea party was their agenda was to elect republicans their agenda was to rekindle public employees from there will be in order to george w. bush and these as they see because the media has pretended they didn't know what was happening that gives you not by wall street and it's people already is about was is about changing the future about making the future better the tea party was about going backwards into a past where there is no civil rights no labor rights no government at all so i think it's work time absolutely. those but the people part of the other ninety nine percent you know these people i'm sure that they have trouble to work on a way that i can imagine what they think when their politicians tell them oh you must be ways you know i'm sure there are tea partiers who don't have health insurance all of aging parts of their health insurance i only wonder how they rationalize voting against the reform bill that think seltzer's i mean let's look

at this if they honestly think that the government has no role in creating jobs or governing the economy how they care have an opinion on it but at the same time they've begun a case that the the latest keep fighting everything and i think the fact that all these occupy wall street people want kerry they think they lost because the rapid development and happened they just want bigger gigantic government factorial so you just want a government that works very hard i say then i want a good government one that functions properly and the right wing wants a credible government that can just be steamrolled by wall street so to me that's you've already is just been doing all of the legwork for wall street i mean they've really been very very good to them and it says to me everything that this movement wants to push for better direct citizens the top seed where's it's the party was a letter about electing house republicans would vote against abortion and block obama's jobs bill i mean the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell based set number one priorities and the obama presidency it should have been starts right i

mean how comparable is that with all the hysteria even their own hysteria about the deficit they still admit their number one goal is to sabotage the president and i could see how is that possible good service to america if anything when nine eleven happened we all said all we have to support bush you know i didn't vote for bush but i supported him at that moment in history because it was about america why is this not a similar moment in history where we're facing this massive crisis and these guys just can't get over the partisan nonsense they can't get over the petty bickering and it's not helping i really think it's already if their plan was to filibuster the entire obama presidency so they could blame all bush's disaster on him there would be but there would a heck of a job. you know but at the same time you know how do you feel that obama would go probe on a plane twelve and i don't know i was really died down ever and camped out for a couple months and it goes away you know if i big the plate right now with democrats on the many things is that they're lending us our support and i appreciate that but i don't need your platitudes i don't need nice words i need

action i need them to actually take wall street don see what they're doing right now is saying we support our guy was deeper than see anything about what the foreign secret grayson was there was all about oversight board that means i need my preview crites are these guys under rico it really is a very connected intricate web of lies if it's spread so to the democrats out there i'd just like to send a message that you will not go off us if you really want to show us some support about being leaders yourselves but until then because a government guy sees the function we've created one of our own and to me this isn't about capitalism i'm not against capital i'm against crime i only wish the democratic party was against it as much as i am maybe then i feel stronger exporting ok so we're talking about one certain type of crime is going and punish right if and when i mean i'm not street how do you tax code that way larry see here i mean there have been math arrests right seven hundred people arrested on the present rate there are a number of arrests today people jumping over a barricade standing in the middle of the street. i mean when it comes to president

obama his cabinet positions have just been in the pocket of wall street his policies have been much more conservative than i would care for and it really kind of blows my mind you know we see in the results of this bill conservative policies under bush why does the think that the see all these under obama would yield anything other than the see if they'll results you know yeah but obama in the response over the coxeter down are right and they're doing their jobs but when you think about just you know the daily it being that our country focuses on it would you say that line order that justice actually get here i see that you know it's kind of like the ninety nine percent versus the one percent i think there are a lot of cops are good guys i've got some of my best friends. when i was speakers all around let me right now so i really have a hard time saying a derogatory about and when the i would say that if we value our second amendment and sentimental rights then we should pay close attention to the rights of freedom of assembly as i didn't see anything in the constitution saying you can only assemble until eleven pm or if the park is clean breaking the monad nonsense i

think that's very extra constitutional so when it comes to civil liberties yeah pay taxes because you know especially since these reactors we are turning into a more closed society i want to open society you know i want oversight with all that freedom and liberty you betting types you know all sold stuff that they we're in the media but i don't see that it seems like seeing people who go on about also back to you gotcha and they don't really care about spying on citizens cellphones people tedious corp is kuantan m o miss it offenses against civil liberties and i think if you're really a constitutional patriot then you can't just be you know puff a style constitutional beach or you can take the parts you like be the parts you don't like it's a whole thing or nothing you know i guess and i think it's something that they do very much i appreciate the sound. all right we're taking a quick break but there is a lot more where that came from as we continue our entire show that's dedicated to occupy wall street now it might be in here right here in new york brought by wall

street began but we know it's spreading across the country so we're going to speak to some other occupiers in d.c. and los angeles and britain have a special guest they the house. into it only works. if you don't work the brain just doesn't work out. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i think taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know so much to see a story that seems so silly you think you understand it and then a glimpse something else hears you some other part of it and realize that everything is or you don't know i'm sorry is a big issue. welcome

to the capitol in alabama. he's looking at. what the protest and nobody seems to know. never

appropriate to face but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic. right now like i said new york city might be the epicenter where the humble beginnings of the occupy wall street movement began but as you know it's spread across the country around the world even but we sent our producers where we could in d.c. and in los angeles to get some messages from the occupiers there and then later on the show we're also going to bring them to occupiers here in new york take a look. this is history in the making as far as i'm concerned the idea that there are people starving in america is unconscionable the fact that people are starving around the world is unimaginable but here where people have such wealth. it it

doesn't make any sense and we all know this and it needs to change you guys got so much money that is unnecessary that you are doing with you are just buying more housing buying more material that you just don't need millions of americans get pushed into poverty and homelessness and there are ten cities in central california that i cannot believe exist in my own country you know just open your eyes and take a look it's only going to get worse all they hear occupy d.c. because money runs everything in america we have the rule by the rich and what we need is the rule by the people people to the scene they you know as soon as you get private banks teaming up with big corporations that it's ninety five percent of the people that you know wind up being pushed to the bottom and that's exactly what happened and you know people actually did something there's an opportunity now to not be silent complicit with. agree with we want good jobs back in our communities we got one corporations to be held accountable by paying their fair

share paying taxes and invest in our community but i'd like to see is that the occupation movement gains legitimacy as able to rebuild institutions the way we want them to be and so we make the government irrelevant i think we're going to win i think it's going to change i think we're going to embarrass the people who are busy in lear jets sailing yachts while people are living in the street cars ok and maybe someday they will give in to what we are doing and help us out there's a spare an american now that has a sense that maybe the people can actually make something happen i don't think that americans had that spirit for a very long time the five hundred thirty five men and one of. congress there are no they've got their finger to the wind and the more wind we give them the more the pattern will start to shift the cowards will become less cowardly and the brave ones will become more bold inside capitol hill. all right so the way that we first

found out about wall street is that people started sending us messages on twitter sending us messages on facebook they literally started blowing us up about it so you can't deny here that social media that technology played a very important role in getting the word out and i guess you compare that to to the arab spring to the protests we've seen rise up around the world who better to talk to us about that than david how someone who's been a frequent guest on our show. so david i think a lot of people know you because you're a hiker because you're a friend of bradley manning and your supporter of bradley manning's here with the lease but leaving him like you know the occupy wall street protests after seeing all the highlights it wasn't going to last and be better to occupy london it's mostly theater here it's a bunch of students i think a lot of workers would come together because they're very upset about the state of there and they've had some criticism of the water there was they really thought if

you come down to the park you get the sense that everyone in the present economic condition that world was it was very interesting i actually talked to her experience the socialist republicans to the proper place to get their ideas about why she picks. but i can go and be a part of the process and help what i feel is a public very popular movement because you know like when you walk around here speaks to the experience republicans and democrats everybody loss of life it hasn't seen a lot of really was. he really only you know left wing and just a lot of young slots right well it's important to know that the media paints this but as an artist or whatever. certain obligations i would say to the principals the people who are opposing the economic conditions countries obviously very bad it's an economic condition it's called going to convert that unemployment among americans has kept students from receiving student loans and

they work very hard to get a job at a school that is going to waiver that if you think. this is a situation which many people are very upset about and obviously the news media has been somewhat bad with these major corporations thoughts news of missing the c.b.c. and the force they're going to take it just proves that sad as a marginalized to be when we come down here it's not these are american citizens because people believe red white and blue and they're here. to find answers to the world's problems to deal with the problem that missing because you don't do a lot about the rights of alice's or someone like me down here and see this people you see they also a lot of people that are all tied up to this this is what they live and work even more you know how they compare to the young in the middle of that maybe even right now i just feel like they're in this band and i'm very sad they can't get a job and they want to act out just right at this moment right when you don't see god as you know a lot of the time out because i would say here most people i've met are people who

just walked out of the streets of new york and say what's going on they grab a lawyer and then they come back they loved occupiers circuit it or use their shower or you spoke to the library this is a very community led effort and that's why it's very bizarre that you hear these talking points from the right look at all these people who are somehow were pressured to walk to this event trying to call some kind of mark the fifth it's hard to hear that and it's a look at a new yorker and laborers people come up and give them to the state to give maturing this organization occupy wall street has raised over one hundred fifty dollars us dollars to three we've been here for you and you got a record wanted to go out with your community might have been supported by the people of the city the people of the city now we're seeing this spread not only across the country you know it's a it's already outside of new york it's most major cities but impossible to get to but it's also spreading around the world more than seventy countries are having this october that. i think that's a really good elf because originally where i i was really gay that's not the answer

that it was asking where's america's are we are where right where we can our part american spring and so we were sort of playing off what was going on in the middle east and so now how do you see that dynamic change that is this still a continuation of what the arab street started it's only you know passing through the u.s. position on around the world or is occupy wall street now influencing others and that's a very good question i think it is related to the technology of the internet i mean if i got a call. the internet is really just the basic it allows you and i do communicate ways that we may not have been able to communicate before to collectivize around certain ideas they wanted people to sit on look at all those ideas to go out and i'm going to consider waiting for those ideas with the internet dollars to really create a marketplace of ideas which is what democracy should be all the time so by kind of that we're dating the traditional columbian control over talking points of information by making pundits are relevant they can in your times the role that putting information democratization the heads of people what you get is

a movement like this a true democracy but it is spread by technology so yes this is art if you're square and take your square is to get from the internet it's completely amazing technology knowledge driving this and that's really the fuel for topping right here on my wall street ok do you think really it's a good system where they actually have access to technology like this or is there still a lot of people around there's a lot of injustice poverty whatever you want to call it where they are mailing out a dollar a day to live on our access to water or to any good let alone self like the great leaders as you took the body of the specially trained police all the protesters were organizing to use a cell phone because the supporter was one says i just had some bread people still have to go into the community to do community work to rally the people that have access to the internet to say these ideas to get to work was interesting is that about thirteen you would get in trouble we're able to work if you gather all the lawyers to come up with the best ideas the ones that would appeal to the bass's the

vote and then go out there and spread that message and it took over it took over so we're seeing the same thing here occupy wall street is a democratic process where people have gathered together a law and business in order to find out what solutions we can offer what's the final solution and that certainly we're going to go in the community and spread this idea and we don't think that's what it's about it's not about people who are leading people about leading an idea now when you read stuff. say playing a role or playing a role in the arab spring revolutions the son said here thing that wiki leaks playing a role i mean of course the scene at. the center where lots of rock or a lot of the stuff like a lot of this is state marking a policy i never got to think that. the bigger most of it came to the right behind us is that we could be wrong and people cost why do we keep it struck which is an art installation you're going to showcase when you meet and they always have a comment like no i want to that's really what you think going to be

a typical conversation and you learn that most everyone here has heard of before because they fit and if you were to go if you want to say to me that oppose me if you teach the world they would say ha they'd say definitely do it seems like we can be surprised somehow the stoats of dignity back because the people i really showing that we are in power through the use of technology no longer we're just in the street just screaming into the void screaming it was building but when we go along we can use our information resources to accomplish great the attraction trial and state authority in a real creative way so we can be showing us that that's their legacy right now that's their legacy growing up i was i said you think that's like saying a lot of the things that are said that everything is very nice i mean yeah there are a lot of crisis. important science more and more to say it's definitely going to be this and showed us is that such it is because it's on capitol hill this that and

that is such a close problem street itself reduces like you suppose really does just to say absolutely the same principles that people have as it is to do stories about people being killed overseas or being tortured nothing on the stuff whatever happens it's really a solid whatever happens when you meet a little fire and i thought everything else we do know also that it's newsweek across the world i believe in the form of occupy wall street is their legacy yes definitely we can take with you to that legacy now i'm sorry i said it. i said this about three and i was like ok you know. what you're doing great now what's your idea say where the spinning actually fix the system i think. we know lawson as a nation of accountability now we have a leader that we can go to and say listen you've been incompetent we're a bit of the world they can take them out of office we really have no pieces that society are touching each other or judging are here when i walk down the street and i see you a lot of walking down the street i feel like i'm an american if you're an american

i'm related if our leaders are the same walls that were out there because we're ballad by that system those are our principles that our values and what our leader and george bush you about are sacrifices that for this in the constitution doesn't apply if you're not believe they undercut the democratic process so what this is about is restoring the values back to america i think if you do come back together and say we want to our principles are for principle a good to go back to like me their ideals once i'm not going to look at what i did a lot last night and i bring the table i think values it's very important that's what we're off i was three that's what we need this country now lastly i think it is that this interview with missing me thank you for taking the time to get on the bus and go back to boston and when i arrived last night where you say you're going for the winter and the camp our economy very much friends separate selling everything as much as possible to live in boston on some cold winters and one of the biggest problems that is how to keep people warm during the off season during the.