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and with that in coffee anniversary occupy wall street today marks one month of protests there is movement in new york's financial district but as the movement continues to grow with numbers but some of the biggest turnouts yet one person has yet to show his face so where in the world is president obama. oh right his how do you go wrong guy you away from new york instead of going to north carolina to sell his jobs plan so as the president ignores this spreading movement to protesters love or hate the commander in chief and is occupy wall street and really fighting
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for socialism. what is the son of arkansas wall street broker that sold to the five but how do you think the approach there's a wall street or mind was there when you ask people who will street with a war they don't know. well the mainstream media has an egg nauruans of protesters instead they're marking the but that's not keeping the occupy wall street movement quiet well show you how they're finding creative ways to expose the truth. and the u.s. is raining down on africa this as president obama stands one hundred u.s. advisors and troops into combat to assist in a rebel takedown but why now and is the u.s. doing more harm than good when it comes to quote helping other countries. it's monday october seventeenth in washington d.c. i was. wall and you're watching artsy well today marks the one month anniversary of
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the occupy wall street protest movement has gone global with hundreds of thousands of people occupying times square and cities around the world from london to rome for glenys aires to name a few and while the movement sees its biggest turn out to get president obama takes office three a bus tour not on wall street but in north carolina now president obama has said that he understands why people are angry but why won't he take that message straight for the crowds in fact the last time president obama was in new york was an audience for a fancy fundraiser with tickets at nearly thirty six thousand dollars apiece the event catered fifteen caters to fifteen of his wealthiest donors and was hosted by vogue's editor in chief anna wintour and movie mogul harvey weinstein and with obama skipping wall street on his national bus or what milwaukee apply wall street stance beyond the president the protesters support him and while obama has been
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linked to socialism the protesters hope to steer the country away from capitalism to socialism are the correspondent marina pour in iowa is in the heart of the protest in new york and posed some of these questions. five weeks and counting occupy wall street has cemented its grassroots movement in lower manhattan as these activists continue fighting to change the u.s. system where do they stand on the u.s. leader who promised change i voted for him i donated i worked hard i thought he was the wife but now. so if elected they were tomorrow i mean if you guys aren't for obama slapped with the world and a vote for him obviously because do i want rick perry yes i am right. because i think he's doing the best that he can with the congress he has to work with to try to get progressive legislation pushed through the trade.
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virtually everything that i got the impression he was going to do based on everything he said in the run up to the election i would not support a republican i would sort of third party candidate obama has not shown that he's ready to work for the people of this country i was for obama i did some fundraisers for him. he's in a tough situation and i'm very disappointed with the way some things have gone. if i have to raise money in and advocating on behalf obama again to prevent the show bachmann from being elected president i would do that here in a headlight. change really should body else socialism is it in thirty words or is it something worth trying what do you think our fire department is or the police department and it's also show us a. favor actually of socialism right. i believe that people should work together for the common good i'm really for what marsha called a final state socialism with the penultimate stage for the ultimate stage when the
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occupy wall street movement kicks off last month u.s. president proper bomber was in town hosting two back to back fundraisers donors paid up to thirty five thousand dollars to attend both advance if these activists say they're still. there. here. are enough more time. and for more on that joining me now is dr caroline hellbent professor of politics at the dental college thanks for joining us president obama skipping wall street do you think he is snubbing the protests and how will this move affect sentiment toward him. well i think that he has already disaffected the left which are there the far left with which are the folks who are protesting or are aligned with the protesters so he has to be very cautious here about of hearing to be extreme. during the during this election season so i think it's smart for him to acknowledge them and support them but do it from afar just from a political perspective from
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a personal perspective i think he should be right down there protesting with them although he would be protesting many of his own policies which have allowed wall street to continue doing what it did when it caused the financial liquidity crisis in two thousand and eight but why is this marker him to do it from afar why not address the bees masses of people right there on the ground. well i think for a reason you noted earlier in the segment which is that many of these protesters are being mocked their message being muddled i think the message is very clear you bailed out wall street and said of main street and now we want you to do something about it it's clear to me that i think that it's getting lost because there's a lot of partisan opposition to it so president obama has to be very concerned about being aligned with a dirty word like socialism which for many americans you know it is a dirty word and not that that's what the wall street protesters are advocating as i understand it they're advocating for economic justice which can take place under any economic political system but again i think president obama really has to be
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cautious about being aligned with a group who is being openly mocked by being stream media and you know one person who is not mocking it shaun tan a he's a supporter of the movement he's urging president obama's visit the occupy wall street protesters in new york he says quote it's been a long time coming and i'd like to see the president go in and surround with the protesters in new york and particular and then not to become just of protest dialogue but a home to home dialogue so carol i what is the president's priority is that he's he's in north carolina not new york what are his priorities that the moment. his priorities are clearly to get reelected this is naked brazen politics this is what happens when you're a year out he needs to get his jobs package through in order to do that and moody's is saying that it will it will create one point nine million new jobs and boost g.d.p. by two percent our economic growth by two percent so i think it's
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a great jobs plan eric cantor a republican in the house said that it's dead on arrival i think that president obama faces incredible partisan opposition to what i believe is a very good plan because it targets infrastructure spending it targets safety net spending that isn't a vital interest during high unemployment and it will have an impact and republicans know that so right now he's got to get his jobs package through in order to get reelected and perhaps to pass some of the policies that he's been waiting to pass if he is reelected the second term because of the opposition he's faced in his first term in congress now president obama has been linked linked to socialism a dirty word for assad i want to play a part of the song for you country artist hank williams.
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what. do you think that these protesters. are rooting burst. some of them i'm sure are but in my discussions with them in new orleans new york and l.a. it's very clear to me that they want economic justice what has happened you know wall street got us into this mess they were bailed out and americans were left to flounder and as someone on the left i've got to say president obama is a pro corporatists president he's one of the most pro corporate us presidents we've seen second only in the modern age to george w. bush not only did he allow the banks to remain too big to fail they're even bigger now about twenty five percent bigger he didn't didn't reinstate glass deal which would have separated the investment banking side he basically passed on watered
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down economic reform at the same time that he extends tarp which is a bailout to the banks the stimulus money and into the pockets of many corporations over you know infrastructure projects shovel ready projects and the fed was loaning an additional one point two trillion dollars to wall street during this time to banks so i see him as being incredibly pro corporate is the idea that he would be labeled a socialist is absurd some of the protesters maybe not so absurd but i think you have a lot of mainstream folks down there too who just want to fair shake in the economic game and caroline speaking of socialism economist nouriel roubini is that as i think united states becomes like europe and we've already extended unemployment benefits three or four times over otherwise you have a much bigger social welfare state and safety net or you have people rioting in the streets we have to do something either way either way we'll have a fiscal problem or a social problem now socialism once looked down upon do you think it's starting to
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make a comeback and the way things are going is the u.s. heading in that direction. well i don't think so i mean we do pride ourselves on having what's called a free market economy even though we've never had an economy that doesn't have some form of government intervention and if you look at the folks on wall the occupy wall street folks are really protesting to get more government intervention and for government to stop with a crony capitalism they're really protesting a broken political system where you know we have the best government that corporate money can buy we have for every one dollar of citizen interest going into washington politics we have three hundred dollars of corporate lobbying and interest going into washington politics so really what i would like to see are folks you know moving some of them from new york and wall street moving down to washington to address the two headed problem it's not just one had a problem but i think it's fascinating that they're targeting corporations because consumer activism has become increasingly popular as
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a form of political participation as power has shifted from government to corporations and done so in a way that's very anti-democratic and they are by definition anti-democratic or non-democratic institutions so gotta say i really i'm so happy that the american public is waking up to this i wish it would have happened in two thousand and eight when when the banks were getting bailed out and we lost or it was doing all of the dirty deals that sunk our economy caroline thank you so much for your thoughts on that now it was dr caroline how bad professor of politics at the dental college. and from the pros has been to your fears television outback but mainstream media continues to ridicule the occupy wall street movement so why is there not this box on our teeth questions more straight ahead.
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what a protest that nobody seems to know. but never appropriate to face by part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic. i'm floored mr. what drives the world the fear mongering used by
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politicians who makes decisions to break through it through to be made who can you trust no one. is your view of the global city where we had a state controlled capitalism school sessions when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more. income inequality in a system that puts corporate welfare above that of u.s. citizens are the target of the occupy wall street protests and while each and every one of the protesters out there has their own greed that's the general theme is to take money out of politics but with much of the mainstream media missing the point of the movement protesters are resorting to other ways and order to get the word out correspondent guy and kick out takes a look at how protesters are taking it upon themselves to get their message heard.
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i think it's their discontent now five. and graphic thousands of americans have resorted to banners and t. shirts to get their message across their frustration with what they see is the government acting on behalf of big corporations rather than the people message which the protesters say their media failed to deliver the media feels like these kinds of events don't deserve coverage sometimes all you get when you do something this is a photograph and so it's very important for the message to be seen those simple oftentimes handwritten messages that people carry on their chests and often being subject to mockery what is the sign i cried wall street protests to the five hours of the people and i would put it what does that mean. it seems the only fault of these people is presented in the american media is that they don't all have agree in economics and finances and are not able to explain their grievances
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professional economists terms various groups in bold to cheer the end of the greatest system known to man and replace it with what who cares let's nap the protests and wall street are mindless and when you ask people who wall street what they want they don't know acts that took place over the last thirty years with regards to national debt and yet within the system generally all of these things are very complicated and difficult for the general public to understand and people in the media and people on wall street quite a fair way because if you don't understand it then you know you don't care what happens but the american people know that they've gotten hosed it was their jobs they've seen them offshore to china it lost their houses they saw a huge run up at home prices that are collapsing in people are saying you know what i know that i've got screwed by all this but i don't know how i but americans who took to the streets are looking to express themselves by me. other than
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motivational piece words and banners which as graphic as they are hardly convey the phone messages from movement the demonstrators are spreading their own paper now called occupied wall street journal which details with their are unhappy with and makes it clear that they're not rooting for one particular party it also works against both political machines and their p.r. slick's taking control of the protest message one word to describe these ongoing protests from the beginning is frustrated on their team kurds on cardboard on the backs of pizza boxes as we've seen people express that prostration but as the movement grows the ways of getting their message across also mature and as people here say this paper is just the beginning i'm going to check our reporting from last r.t. . the still ahead here on our it's a year of taxpayer dollars will be our work in africa this hour president obama has
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ordered one hundred advisers in troops there to help and iraq will take down but why now and how much do you really know about that and do americans even care. if we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old and just you know look through. my mistress and i am a total get over friends that i love rap and hip hop music and for. that he was kind of the jester that. i'm very proud of the world with its place.
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six. ft six. legs. or you. can't leave.
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well one hundred u.s. troops are on their way to central africa their task of helping uganda combat a rebel army of terrorizing civilians and the region and as the u.s. intervenes what does the public know about the country how do they feel about the military intervention and do they even care artie's other dionne of the set out to the streets to find out. as the obama administration announced its plan of sending advisory troops into uganda if. you would have a quick second i went out on the streets of d.c. to ask americans what they make of all this have you heard about you know the latest news about your ministration going to uganda and i have no i didn't but i'm
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not for it i hated. the idea i did what do you think about that obama i don't like our president i think he's doing a lousy job that's one of our country i don't like obama but i most of the time i think it's a good thing that we protect our interests and help others that are right there had never been one to. feel as though. we need to solve the problems of the world everywhere i think here too you know make sure to say people in africa you know that's valuable that you have kind of feel like we other mind our own business you know. take care of the situation at home which as we all know is it's taking care of. not to keen about. launching an expeditionary forces into other countries right now we can't police the whole world without though he certainly try and well there you have it the road to africa might
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be paved with good intentions but americans are divided on whether we should be everywhere all at once reporting from washington i'm odd renault said oh. and joining me now for more on this is agent times correspondent at they ask of our thanks for joining us thanks lou is of all of the battles to be fought in africa why is the u.s. choosing to help fight this. well there are so many reasons let's say let's try a short cut first of all this is an exchange of gifts president obama is giving a gift to the big favorable going to sydney it was being in power for twenty five to twenty six years and he's as responsible of human rights and freedoms and effect at tax on civilians and murders of acts and civilians as joseph colin e. goldie named lou sure like to go the version of a zombie a lot of them as they want to end their life and it's so above the senate these one hundred u.s. special forces build s.
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advisers so remember vietnam in one nine hundred sixty one sixty two it started with a bunch of advisers going to be about it and we know what history taught us later ok so the state is one hundred guys because it will severely sense from five six thousand to eight thousand who given the troops to fight the out militia in somebody some seventy was fighting a proxy war four of us in somalia so the interview should from the white house and specially to the cia because this is certainly a cia operation is to give any one hundred special forces to either buy them into crushing the guerrilla movement led by self described mystical christian belittle prophet joseph papp a what is there for twenty years any still going on. to say. i don't want justification for going in there is my best i guess i've cohen i guess
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a county has been responsible for murdering raping and kidnapping tens of thousands of men and women and children and from kill africa you know i think the an option but it is a driving force for the us going in there. it is there's no question about it but if you read humans rights watch is reports most of any skill of mine is even a batter and rutter apple then that cold this is a civil war and it's a matter nick war once again the us is right stepping right into the middle of a net ward it's been going on for over two decades it's basically between two ethnic groups in north into canada and southern again so there are get is in power but i am a seventy i'm simplifying a lot so people can release in the stem what's going on and these are rebels that christian rebels they are based in north in again but the bigger picture sivan more impressive because this is not about a candidate sell it even obama had made it on the record already that these
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advisors are a go in south sudan and the democratic republic of congo as well so when you look at that area in central africa and you see the amount of oil and the amount of mineral rich at play and when we see that china is making need a role in school urgently in this area and when we look at the africans agenda which is to combat china commercially viable military is asia of africa then you understand is one hundred the beginning of many will be going to go there so i don't let's talk about the timing are mepham turned on and why now. why oh why now ok once again i was the tail is getting emails from africans including people from again there and congo and it's fantastic because public opinion in this country is the are and will fill out soon through to the web in english all over the world they know what's going on they know about hidden agendas and you know they're
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saying outright of course this today further attentions from what's going on in new york yaki allstream from the crash of the american economy this fact that obama now is happy to play. very tough. in terms of organizing his reelection in two thousand and twelve the power plate size stablish meant that the military intelligence status mean to us where david petraeus now is running every single ever sing for do this counterinsurgency and this what's going on and i'm going to also advise so people in africa know what's going on you cannot feel them anymore and you know that seems to me now clear a timeline for the u.s. military involvement there how long do you think the troops and well being there and the. times there are a half an hour of clips this is the this is that the first one the hundred what will it could be thousands in one year or two years because the power play in
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africa is very clear is the chinese coming to these african countries with contracts offering billions of dollars and they're all know how to build the hospitals highways them their old as ok and we want of course your been there also and your oil and that counter revolution organized by special europeans as well because congo don't forget there are a lot of european firms who are absolutely right to leave their hands all congolese reaches very close to ground as well and there has been a civil war in congo for years with over four million people there were that if united states never wanted to interfere in the cone so why uganda and why not so this is total much bigger thing which we call the direct clash between beaching and the pentagon and it's also involves africa on the pentagon's african command so maybe instead it is getting very complicated to get their base in libya look at
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what's libya nowadays it's akin to wrecked by civil war and it's going to do that for months if not years so why not start with again the can is and will fall it's a very good beachhead for us in central. africa from the organ that it can monitor it is huge area including all those riches you know again there in south sudan or oil and minerals and in coal or oil and minerals as well so we start with like in vietnam one hundred advisors let's talk about it when you're. ok and you know the u.s. forces there they're combat equipped so they're prepared to defend themselves and attack and they need to but they're really only supposed to be providing information and advice do you believe that the u.s. will abstain from combat missions there we don't know this is pure speculation what we do know is that this is basically going to be a special forces contingency wants to collect local intelligence probably
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and probably barack's let's say trolls to go after the lord's resistance army and the coneys guys which are not more than four hundred the last substantial number that we got there in the middle of the jungle the they had two thousand people like two years ago it's a dwindling force here the problem is the ugandan army so corrupt and also if you treat it that they cannot fight only make this these people it is an internecine ethnic war so maybe this cia or the special forces will get enough intelligence and if you know try to orient stir the usual and canine reaper to you know take out has been the lord's resistance army because they care. now that was eighteen times correspondent pepe asked about that doesn't find out from our in the stories we covered that r.t. dot com flash us that in fact at a youth who paid to you tube dot com slash r t.

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