we've. seen the story. really hard. and with that happy anniversary occupy wall street today marks one month since protesters moved into new york's financial district but as the movement continues to grow with numbers but some of its biggest turnouts and one person has yet to show his face so where in the world is president obama. oh right he's heading the wrong way away from new york and instead of going to north carolina to sell his jobs plan so i was the president ignores the spreading movement and protesters love or hate the commander in chief and is occupy wall street really fighting for

socialism. and the u.s. is raining down on africa of this as president obama sends one hundred u.s. advisors and troops into uganda to assist in a rebel takedown but why now and is the u.s. doing more harm than good when it comes to quote helping other countries. it's monday october seventeenth seven pm in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're walking artsy well today marks the one month anniversary of the occupy wall street protests the movement have gone global now with hundreds of thousands of people occupying times square and cities around the world from london to rome to oneness areas to name a few back of the u.s. artsy has been on the ground our way in new york since day one and we're not slowing down today is today arts he's marine corps and i are caught up with

celebrity actor william baldwin who flew from l.a. it's the big apple to show his support take a listen. it's not about the people anymore even elected officials and government institutions that run this country anymore it's it's big corporations and and wall street that to you and that's why a lot of people are here to try and redistribute the balance of power bring it back to the people and baldwin when albert hall for more regulations of the banks more transparency and corporate responsibility are they also caught up with who are hosts of the young turks producer liz account and i've asked him what his expression of the movement has been so far. i made sure if we can. see and hear all this come out of here. so what will the spirit. say well this week. we have a new survey says leave

a week. for you to see if you. hear these issues he says he does. not think you. plan to mention that we were moving into i guess the first full month of the occupation and yet media coverage still kind of similar to always on the beginning and we have a carrier and as advertisements all over the park aaron still she calls these folks that like homeless white people with no specific concrete aspirations or demands that what's your impression of the media coverage stuff are why i think it was disastrous it would be any and i noticed too that when the first time we came it was erin burnett ads all over the place and i thought that's a wonderful piece of irony. having said that i actually think it's getting a lot more coverage and so now as the coverage improved in terms of quality it's a different question and it's it makes paganini a little bit more respect i think what's happening is that as they do occupy all

across country and fifteen hundred people show up in orlando i think that's what people go oh maybe people are mad at wall street and there was a poll out a d.c. news wall street i'm sorry washington post poll that said sixty eight percent of independents are really angry with the big financial institutions and sixty percent of republicans so republicans are angry don't wait a bit it's legitimate right and so it's beginning here improve slowly as they get the whole american people or because not just the budget as they would say like oh hippie young guys who are willing to you know fight for this and why do you think it's so difficult or has been so difficult for mainstream outlets. heard of that look at this movement as something that for whatever the greater american population a lot of times the stories focus on you know individuals with dreadlocks and whatnot but it's not really that is it but i think there's two elements to it number one i think honestly to establishment media it is so establishment that it has a number of facts number one all the people they know or stablished you know so and

work at goldman sachs she knows all the people goldman sachs she now knows all the people citi group you know she knows so to her she's like what the people of goldman sachs are lovely what do you need your challenging if i don't get it right second of all they got for the positions that they did honestly ninety percent of them did by being comfortable with this out of not challenging establishment that's not how they got promoted right so dave learn from that experience say be cool be cool do selfishness challenged you're not on that side you're on the side of the guys who want to keep their power and then lastly all related to that is that when they come here they see a guy with dreadlocks or they see a guy with jews i see that i go hey that's a good guy i mean you know where the young turks will get it but they see no like over i got no one i know has trouble no one i know as such is all up and down their arms this is wild and weird so it doesn't compute for them and hence they think it must be me. but one of the things i first thing to surprised when i first came down

here is a lot of families a lot of older people a lot of i don't quite average looking americans not really the radical left wing stereotypes that you see in the press and what do you think specifically this movement has tapped into that has turned out such a wide range of americans. personally i think that the number one gun feeling that everyone here has is that our government doesn't represent us it's not that hey we hate wall street it's a wall street hispano way to corrupt our government so they were not represented wall street represented because they are the ones who pay our politicians. i think people feel that in their gut not appear just liberals but if they're conservatives libertarian center citizen america that's all you had washington post where he was sixty percent of republicans say are you bothered by the big influence of money and politics yes yes yes we're all bothered by it and then you know you can spread that out to a lot of consequences of that but that's the core and that's the core would older

americans realize except for the meeting at the same time you have for example the triple c. sending out funding request email asking for folks to donate to occupy wall street and i would say that more the more natural political party alive and support this movement would be the democratic party and you see some folks in the establishment party sort of trying to tap into that what do you make of that i mean it is this a natural ally for the occupy wall street movement it isn't it isn't immediate to be careful because obviously the democrats are going to come because this. and president obama is already if planning is in tonight or a reelection campaign or in taking wall street which is hilarious. because he has i think it may be totally helped wall street never even possible way except he once called fat cats. and that was it jan host of the young turks and his interview doesn't stop there we'll have more with chen coming up in our next half.

so as the occupy wall street movement grows president obama kicks off as the raid a bus tour not on wall street but north carolina now president obama has said that he understands why are people are angry but why won't he take that message straight so the crowds for the obama stiffing wall street on his national bus tour how do protesters feel about the president do they support him and while obama's been linked to socialism do protesters really want to see a socialist america are the correspondent are in a fortnight in the heart of the protests in new york and pose some of those questions. five weeks and counting occupy wall street has cemented its grassroots movement in lower manhattan as these activists continue fighting to change the u.s. system where do they stand on the u.s. leader who promised change i voted for him i donated i worked hard i thought he was the wind but now. so if election day were tomorrow i mean if you guys aren't for

obama slap with your old vote for him obviously because i want rick perry yes i am like. because i think he's doing the best that he can with the congress but he has to work with to try to get progressive legislation pushed through seize be trade. virtually everything that i got the impression he was going to do based on everything he said in the run up to the election i would ask what i would sort of get it shown that he's ready to work for the people of this country i was for obama i did some fundraisers for him. he's in a tough situation and i'm very disappointed with the way some things have gone. if i have to raise money in and advocated behalf of obama again to prevent michele bachmann from being elected president i would do that in a headlight. for change but he else socialism is an attorney word or is it

something worth trying what do you think our fire department is or the police department and it's also sure as a favor actually of socialism. because i believe that people should work together for the common good i'm really for what marsha called a final state socialism of the penultimate stage and for the ultimate stage when the occupy wall street movement kicked off last month u.s. president barack obama was in town hosting two back to back fundraisers donors paid up to thirty five thousand dollars with time both offense at these activists say there's. waiting for their president to pay every visit here with them. r.t. . and for more on this i spoke to someone that's been on the ground since day one katie davison from the occupy wall street media center start things off i asked her to give me her take on whether or not she thinks president obama is nothing occupy

wall street and of this will have any effect on populist sentiment toward him here's what she had to say you know i mean i think the thing that everyone needs to understand is a lot of what we're doing is rejecting the current three party system of which obama is a part so we you know we created this liberates liberated space to have a meaningful dialogue that doesn't exist with a mature party system so we feel neither snow nor i mean this is kind of what we expected this is partially why this movement exists. katie i want to. bring to your attention a statement from sean penn he's a supporter of this movement he has urged president obama to visit the occupy wall street protesters in new york he says quote i think the media plays a big part of it because you say that you felt that it was gaining momentum i saw another network this afternoon trying to encourage the idea that it was losing momentum the real thing in part is going to be what is best for television. and

what's your reaction to that do you think the media. play is a big role in the in this movement. i mean i think the mainstream media plays a big role and public opinion in the united states i don't think that it always represents what's really happening on the ground and i think the lack of coverage on that was a large turnout that we had in times square on saturday as proof of that. and you know president obama he's been linked to socialism a dirty word first and i want to play for you a part of this song by hank williams. now

katie i don't know if your country music fan but do you think protesters are rooting for socialism. well we are actually i can only speak for myself as always but we part of what we are doing is rejecting all is a lot of what this movement is about is reinvention a world view that hasn't existed before and i think socialism the word itself carries a lot of weight is a system that has been tried and didn't necessarily work economic inequality is really important to us and that is part of our fundamental. underlying political you know ideas that we're trying to figure out however socialism doesn't really represent what we are about and that katie dave's from the occupy wall street media center and earlier i spoke to protester christina good knowledge she's been on the

ground in new york from the beginning she also spent some time in egypt right before the protests there i asked her what it's like in new york and how occupy wall street compares to tahrir square. well it seems like there's so much going on there things are really becoming very organized i've been a good there on and off day two so i don't know the exact things that are going on with every working group but i actually recently became a part of the nonunion workers an immigrant workers working group so yes so we're just creating more groups are making sure everyone's involved we're spreading the word they're actually people it's in the media center that are connecting with people in other media centers of other argue patients so that we can stay posted on any videos that are put up and what's going on and just keep each other informed you know and christina i understand that you took a trip to egypt to talk to students. about how government standing up to government

and starting a revolution in two days later the prose has in egypt the ruf said you want to send the same message to protests there is in new york. for this occupy wall street protest i do i want to punish the protesters in new york and california and europe like wherever it's going on because this is not just an american thing it's not just in egypt and saying there's corruption going on all over the planet and the powers that be are really oppressing us right now and yet we you know you have to be really great to do something like this and you have to be really strong and understand that you're taking a lot of risks but think about what it will be in the future i mean do we want our children and our grandchildren to be out here doing the same thing years and years from now knowing that we could have done something to stop it. but you know in egypt since we are making this comparison to egypt we saw the riots we saw hundreds of thousands of people coming out into tahrir square while the live take for some

real change to happen here in the u.s. here there were riots and things got really violent over there and as you see there getting pretty violent here also in italy we saw that you know buildings were burning and cars were blowing up and you know. what was going on but i think it's going to take a lot more than this i can i can honestly say that i'm scared because i don't know what's going to happen i know that there aren't enough police to control the masses that are out in the streets right now and it makes me think that the military is possibly going to come in i think i think things are really going to get messy because people don't want to let go of their power they're not going to let it go that easy and we already know how ruthless they can be you know they've been killing us secretly and and subversively for so long you know we know that they can come out and take us out as quickly as they would like so yeah i think it's going to be a long road but i'm willing to stick her with because i know that you know it's not

just for me is this for all humanity and do you think things need to get messy like the way we saw things get nasty and egypt these things need to get to that point in order for some real changes to happen the revolution i know that's what you're advocating in egypt to what extent do we need things to get to escalate here in order for a change to happen. well we know one things to get messy we don't want them to get violence that's right the whole time we've been promoting peaceful movement as a peaceful protest but unfortunately that's the way that the society words you know we glorify violence and as soon as the cops are hitting people that's when we got the media attention so you see it seems like it is going to take something like that and there's only for so long that you can withstand someone beating you and oppressing you before you have to take action back so i definitely don't promote

the violence that's going to take place but i know that it's inevitable so it would be great if our voices could be heard without us having to be beaten down but yeah it seems like us pointed out that we're going to be pushed and we just have to be ready for it and hopefully try to stay peaceful at all times but still stay safe you know and protect ourselves and that was occupy wall street protester christina gonzales had here on our t.v. are taxpayer dollars will soon be hard i work in africa this as president obama has ordered one hundred advisors and troops there to help in a quote a rabble to take down the line now and how much do you really know about this deal merican even care. leave iraq. but

what about that nobody seems to know. but never a pepper spray to shake but the argument that they're being overly dramatic. this. one hundred u.s. troops are on their way to central africa they're tasked with helping uganda combat

a rebel army terrorizing civilians in the region and as the u.s. intervenes let us the public know about the country how do they feel about the military intervention and do they even care are things are beyond i was that zero sense of the streets to find out. as the obama administration announced its plan of sending advisory troops into uganda if. you would have a quick second i went out on the streets of d.c. to ask americans what they make of all this have you heard about you know the latest news about your ministration going to uganda and i didn't but i'm not for it i heard of no no a special idea i did what do you think about that and. i don't like our president i think he's going to lousy job. i don't like obama but i most of the time i think it's a good thing that we protect our interests and others that are right there have

never been one to. feel as though. we need to solve the problems of the world everywhere i think here too you know make sure to say to people in africa it's valuable that you kind of feel like the other mind our own business you know say take care of the situation at home which as we all know is it's taken care of. not taking about. launching an expeditionary forces into other countries right now we can't police the whole world without though he's certainly trying and well there you have it but it's africa might be paved with good intentions but americans are divided on whether we should be everywhere all at once reporting from washington i'm now said oh archie. and joining me now for more on this is agent times correspondent pepe escobar thanks for joining us thanks lose

a lot of battles to be fought in africa why is the u.s. choosing to help fight this battle. well there are so many reasons let's say let's try a short cut first of all this is an exchange of gifts president obama is giving a gift to the dictator of sevigny has being in power for twenty five to play six years and he's as responsible of human rights and freedoms and in fact thanks on civilians and murders of excellence of unions as joseph colney to the main do sure like to go to a version of also being allowed in as they want to buy thousand the cia so obama's senate is one hundred u.s. special forces bill this advisers so remember vietnam in one nine hundred sixty one sixty two it started with a bunch of advisers going to get up in we know let history taught us later ok so he say these one hundred guys because that will serve any sense from five six thousand

to eight thousand who given troops to fight. in somalia so the seventy was fighting a proxy war four of us in somalia so the interview should from the white house and specially the cia because it is certainly a cia operation is to give the civilian one hundred special forces to either buy them into crushing the guerrilla movement led by self described mystical christian political prophet joseph can i what is there for twenty years and it's still going up what do you have to say. only one death occasion for going in there and that this guy. gets of county he's been responsible for murdering raping and can happen tens of thousands of men and women and children and central africa and you not i thank you not think that this is the driving force for the u.s. going in there. it is there's no question about it but if you read humans rights

watch is reports most events government is even a badder and rutter apple then that code this is a civil war and it's and that nick war once again the us is right stepping right into the middle of a net war that's been going on for over two decades it's basically between two at me groups in north into ghana and southern again so there again is in power but i am a civilian i'm simplifying a lot so people can more or less understand what's going on and these are rebels that kristen rebels they are based in north and again but the bigger picture is even more impressive because this is not a public candidate cell and even obama at made it on the record already that these advisers are according to south sudan and the democratic republic of congo as well so when you look at that area in central africa and you see him out of oil and the amount of mineral rich is at play and when we see that china is making inroads

koehler recently in this area and when we look at the africans agenda which is to combat china commercially viable military zation of africa then you understand is one hundred the beginning of may any will be going to go the soup about let's talk about the timing are often intervention my now. why why now ok one second i was so there was getting e-mails from africans including people from again that and congo and it's fantastic because public opinion in this country it's the uncle phil soon to the web in english all over the world they know what's going on they know about hidden agendas and you know they're saying out right of course is to die for it attentions from what's going on in your pocket by all street from the crash of the american economy the fact that obama now is have to play. very tough.

in terms of organizing his a reelection in two thousand and twelve the power play inside the status meant the military intelligence status mean to us where david petraeus no is running every sing and ever sing for babes at cyril's this counterinsurgency and this what's going on i'm going to also applies so people in africa know what's going on you cannot feel that many war and you know there seems to be no clear timeline for the u.s. military involvement there how long do you think the troops and well being there and the expect them to leave prime soon are are they have an aha couple of clips this is the this is that the first one the hundred one of the what could keep thousands in one year or two years because the power play in africa is very clear is to chinese coming to these african countries with contracts offering no billions of dollars in their own know how to build hospitals highways dams are as ok and we want of course your minerals and your oil and that counter revolution organized

with social europeans as well because cold go don't forget there are a lot of european firms who are absolutely bank to leave their hands on congo's riches very close to canada as well and there has been a civil war in congo for years with over four million people there were ten united states nasser wanted to interfere in the cold war so why again that and why not so this is part of a much bigger thing which we call the direct lash between beijing and benfica and it's also people's african and their guns african command so maybe it's it is getting very complicated to get their plays in libya look at what's libya nowadays it's a cataract by civil war and it's going to be that for months if not years so why not start with who can go can these anglo feel it's a very good beach head for the u.s. in central. africa from again that it came on it or it is huge area including all

those riches in south sudan or oil and minerals and in cologne will all in minerals as well so we start with like in vietnam one hundred advisors let's talk about it when you're. ok and you know the u.s. forces there they're combat equipped so they're prepared to defend themselves and attack and they need to but are really only supposed to be providing information and advice believe that the u.s. will not change from combat missions where we don't know this is pure speculation what we do know is that this is basically going to be. special forces cia contingency one super collector local intelligence probably and probably barack's let's say drolls to go ask her the lord's resistance army and the connies guys which are a lot more than four hundred you last a substantial number that we got there in the middle of the jungle they had two

thousand people like two years ago it's a do in dealing force dia the problem is the organ an army so corrupt and also into training that they cannot fight only make this these people it is a internecine ethnic war so maybe this cia and the special forces will get enough intelligence and if you know try to orient the usual and kenai you refer to you know take out as many lords resistance army people as they can. and the elevated times correspondent i ask are while that doesn't pan out for more on the star of the card but are the dot com slash usa in check out are you to pay to youtube dot com slash i think america you can also follow me on twitter apple is not up to see you right back here in thirty minutes.