understanding. something else here's the part of it and realize that everything is ok. i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.

mr. you said it i've read it take time to respond to my brilliance and engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you tube because we've got something to say i listen now first i would respond to a viewer who watched our story on conflicting reports from the pentagon and the associated press about when the united states will be leaving iraq chemical eighty three said on you tube didn't we allegedly leave iraq last year and yes i seem to

remember that it was actually a little bit over a year ago when the media made a massive spectacle of the last combat troops in iraq leaving and b c news went on for hours and hours of live coverage obama took to the airwaves to declare the end of the war yet long after the official combat mission was over thousands of americans troops remain and they continue to lose their lives but i didn't have quite the same ring as the rolling out of the take so let me i just pretty much ignored it i think at this point it's pretty clear that the u.s. is fighting tooth and nail with the iraqi government to make sure that our troops remain in iraq along past the official end of the combat mission and that pesky december thirty first deadline of this year that was sent years ago so while the media and the government can declare whatever milestone they want the bottom line is the american troops are still fighting and still dying in iraq and next on respond to a viewer who watched our coverage of the occupy wall street movement on monday and obama's tacit endorsement of this movement not kotex. if obama launched the occupy wall street crowd he should go there and speak you know that's an interesting proposition but i don't exactly see it happening obama and other democrats in the

capital are doing their best to try to ride the coattails of the by wall street movement without being too closely associated with it left to be used against them in the future so obama democrats guess what you can't have it both ways you can try to co-opt occupy wall street movement and its energy without any meaningful action to back it up if you support occupy wall street and put your money where your mouth is listen to what the people have to say and take some action but other. not the occupy movement would even accept obama and it's a whole other story basically him as part of the problem now finally i want to respond to a viewer who watched our mainstream miss from monday to james said i love the m.s.m. bashing but it's almost too easy isn't it and you know what yeah sometimes it is but just because they see the doesn't mean we shouldn't criticize them for it the media in this country has a job to do and they're failing that's it my rantings today i'll be back with more next week as usual. well the new york times predicted it earlier this year and now it's become official according to the federal reserve bank of new york americans

now old more than a trillion dollars in student loans which is a truly staggering figure considering that the u.s. census bureau reported in two thousand and ten that the combined credit card debt for this country is zero only eight hundred eighty six billion dollars so student loans now take the cake as the single largest source of outstanding debt in the u.s. even more than all the outstanding credit card debt so how do we know how enormous this problem is let's take a step back and look at how we got here shall we and twenty two and full time undergrad students barred an average of four thousand nine hundred sixty three dollars per person with a sixty three percent increase from just a decade earlier if you take inflation into account now along with the rising debt per student comes a rise in defaults on student loans which occurs when individuals over nine months behind on their payments so in two thousand and seven the default rate was six point seven percent in two thousand and nine it grew to eight point eight percent and these defaults come disproportionately from a specific type of higher education back in april i spoke with universities and

asperin about for profit colleges. just to give you an idea of how often students default on their loans after they graduate school for profit colleges keep in mind that only twelve percent of students go to these institutions they've got includes university of phoenix kaplan i.t.t. tech to verify all of these for profit institutions that are popping up all over the country only twelve percent of students go to these institutions but you also have to keep in mind that nearly fifty percent of all student loan defaults in the united states are from students who attend these colleges. all right now if you have some of the figures let's remind you why student debt is so detrimental side of the stress that comes with handling that kind of that also effects the students credits court it's not only will graduates have more trouble paying off their debt but they also face a scary reality that i mean not be as many jobs out there is a lot of students anticipated when they took on those massive loans and huge amounts of student debt often delay young adults plan of buying a home

a new car even starting a family since they're now going to be sending money to the banks to pay off their debts so it's a pretty dismal outlook for those who have taken out large loans to get a degree and it looks like things are going to get better anytime soon. now since the arab spring began we've heard a lot of back and forth rhetoric hypocritical rhetoric in many ways as to which government crackdowns were considered human rights abuses worth going to war for think libya and where the u.s. foreign policy team decided to go easy on the critique syria and yemen now take into account another element that shows just how mixed this u.s. response to the yesterday was a part of the u.s. diplomatic confirm that i think people million dollar weapons deal between the u.s. bahrain had been finalized and today it was announced by the state department that after a number of u.s. senators had expressed their concern this weapons you'll be put on hold until a special investigation of alleged human rights abuses in bahrain will be completed on october thirtieth and that's when he would make a final decision now this point time it's estimated at least thirty five people have died since bahrain's protests began in february that's how we look at this

postponement is a good sign that our policies are starting to shift or is it just a symbolic move to quiet critique to everybody moves on and then the weapons deal can still go through joining me from our studio in new york to scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine scott i want to thank you for joining us tonight and so i just want to ask you that same question i mean how do you see this is this a step in a positive direction that now suddenly we're interested in doing a human rights report we definitely didn't see that we made a six hundred million dollar weapons deal with saudi arabia or do you think that the intentions aren't necessarily true here. well i think it's a mixed in contract situation and i think it reflects the tensions and the debate that's being played out inside the beltway in washington today. i think there's no question but that when we deal with bahrain its position from the american perspective is as a military outpost this is where the fifth fleet has been centered the u.s.

has had a special relationship with bahrain for some time it's also been viewed as effectively the u.s. military front line with iran on the other hand this is got to be squared with the obama administration's policies concerning the arab spring and remember president obama spoke and now very strongly very forthrightly about his embrace of this popular movement and the the core dilemma and already there's a very simple that is if the people of bahrain have their way the khalifa family that has ruled that. nation dictatorially for generations would be out and the regime that might come in certain might not be so pro-american although we don't know and you know i think that you bring out some of the statements here into which is that we've seen this president criticize point fingers at iran saying that

they're being hypocritical because they're supporting the arab spring at the same time they're still propping up assad's regime in syria and yet aren't we doing kind of the exact same thing except for what different actors. so we're doing exactly the same thing i mean i think by the way i think the criticism the u.s. levels of the rand is correct there are hypocritical and i think by the same analysis you can call the u.s. defense arrangements with bahrain hypocritical the slight saving grace only slight i guess is the fact that obama personally has been vocally critical of the regime in their crackdown our state department has called them out not only on the people killed but also on the mock trials that were held by the force convictions that were rendered the abuse of people in prisons now right now the state department has said this deals being held up to october thirtieth so that we can get the report from this independent commission in bahrain about human rights abuses but that

strikes me as wrong frankly because i mean this independent commission isn't an independent commission it's a government commission the government funded it and it's not frankly terribly credible i really don't particularly care whether it's going to say i think we know the facts we know without and we know that the government was highly abusive and all that would suggest that the u.s. government should be putting a freeze on this military aid package yeah i'm wondering why we choose to it's a question here in terms of needing an entire report but i want to switch gears really quickly and also speak about yemen another place where it's seen me a lot of violence over the last couple of months between of course the leaders between president saleh has forces and those that are protesting and same thing we've heard some kind of gentle proclamations of support for a democratic movement there ever since i while a lockie was taken out by a drone strike a couple of weeks ago it seems like suddenly the obama administration is now just

showering regime also with a very positive note so do you think that all that's going to change now are going to go back to solly side since we've only beefed up our counterterrorism operations there in the last couple weeks. yeah we really need to be studying this more carefully i mean after he was killed there's been a series of other raids in fact the there was one yesterday in which a larky sixteen year old son that also in the american citizen was killed in your many government sources are saying that this was another u.s. strike and they're suggesting that this was coordinated with the yemeni government so there clearly is a fairly high level of counterterrorism cooperation between the saudi government and the and the obama administration that's focused on all these military actions so there's criticism but there's also close collaboration and this is collaboration with the regime in its killing hundreds an indiscriminate violence in the streets

of sana and other major cities and it's a regime that i think most of the servers give it a few months i mean it's not viewed as having a particularly long shelf life it at this point now i'm doing a bit of a mixed bag here to the last time they were on our program it was just the day after the justice department had announced that apparently a terrorism plot of been foiled planned by iran using mexican drug cartels to take out the saudi ambassador to the united states i'm just wondering since we last spoke if you feel like you've seen any new bits of information that have come out that could explain the situation a little more tell us whether it is real or whether it's a fake i know that some people of iran has claimed that one of the man is a member of the ek and that might prove you know a little bit problematic for so many u.s. politicians in trying to get them off the terrorist organizations list. well i think you know i think we see statements from the u.s. government from the f.b.i. and others to present their case with

a lot of certitude very forthrightly but they're still rather weak on the specific evidence to to shore it up and i guess when that when this announcement was originally made i was in london looking at the papers there and on the continent and what i saw in all the european coverage was that they repeated everything the u.s. government said they repeated the iranian denials and they said look we have to view all of this in the context of a longstanding ongoing feud between washington iran and we also have to take into account that there are a lot of people inside the beltway in washington d.c. looking to make out a case for war with iran and i think you know that skeptical analysis i think the skepticism is warranted frankly and i think the u.s. government's you know i think there's no doubt that there was a plot to assassinate a bear the question is to what extent this was really driven by a high level government direction and iran that that's where the evidence is weak

and i guess i just nap and keep waiting to see if any more of that evidence will surface scott thank you so much for joining us tonight. great to be with you. let's start of the people of iraq for all the death and destruction that we caused their. presidential candidates nights the time of war and happy hour the real world occupy wall street style plots for the second time in recent weeks. that. internally are new and. difficult to bring to justice or. i have every right to know what my government would want to know why i think taxes . i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism.

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here see some other part of it and realize that everything is. part of the big picture.

the police corruption. what a protest nobody seems to know. but never ever sprayed the face but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic. i discern for it's night school time award tonight because michele bachmann actually made a few crazy statements during last night's debate and let's face it she was also annoying as hell she kept interrupting every candidate added a host anderson cooper. when she was reference but anderson ok.

so you. know a lot of things that are you think. anderson in your campaign to tell us we have time and. if you want to go you can go and go. all right so our friends over talking points memo put back live together and well we decide to play it back to the reason the congresswoman bachmann it's a nice tool time winner she was asked a question about cutting foreign aid and in typical fashion launched into a non-related tirade about how president obama is put daylight between the u.s. and israel and then she said this cutting back on foreign aid is one thing being reimbursed by me sions but we have liberated is another we should look at iraq and libya to reimburse us for part of what we have done to liberate these nations.

did you hear those cheers in the background michelle and the g.o.p. crowd think that we should charge iraq and libya for liberating that we're not even begin fair i mean let me remind michele the things we invade iraq based on faulty intelligence rigged by warhawks yes the u.s. and other coalition forces got rid of saddam hussein who is by all measures a bad man let's not forget it used to be our friend at one point but whatever he was contained he posed no threat to the united states so now we have that straight let's look at the price of the iraqi people have paid for their liberation best estimates put the number of iraqi civilians killed by u.s. and coalition forces above one hundred thousand now it's a low figure because exact numbers since the war began in two thousand and three are hard to find and over four million citizens have been displaced in iraq many their homes have been damaged and basic services like water and electricity have been disrupted and says the u.s. began training iraqi troops to protect their own country more than ten thousand have been killed so michele do you really still think that the iraqi people oh the

u.s. money for their liberation i'm going to limb and say that they've suffered enough already thanks to u.s. forces that invaded their country under a false pretext and subsequently pushed the country into years and years more of sectarian violence so titles i wonder is michele bachmann or her really absurd comments on charging victims of war for their liberation by the u.s. . ok guys time for happy hour and joining me this evening is archie course on it christine for sour and she saarland capitol hill reporter for talking points memo hey guys thing is going to be. ok so we've obviously been doing a lot of occupy wall street coverage here on our show we were just down there on friday but here's something that's really hilarious the real world as in m.t.v.'s reality show the real world is apparently looking for occupy wall street cast

members they put out a craigslist ad and set apart. of occupy wall street real world twenty seven zero one two. this is i just this makes me you know this makes me worried i don't cry at t.v. how it's no steppin like you're worried about democrats co-opting the movement now and he's going to go up by it was totally all for this because as a former real world fan when you actually had intelligent people that were on the show to deal with like real issues in their lives it turned into this thing where all the housemates would just hook up with each other and i got very cynical when's the last time you saw intelligent people on the real world because now they just get people that are like. just looking for people who care about what's going on in the world hopefully they're not just like a hockey bear in mind a lot of real world people have run for office there's a congressman tom de lay sean duffy beating out the motion example but back in the day he's back in the day i mean. maybe i'm just being optimistic but maybe this is m.t.v. is it time to try to get some interested people who care about what's going on in

the world back on the show. i hope you're right for some reason i'm just. more skeptical i think they just want somebody who looks like they're from. you know like look like if you're saying the jersey shore did it i'd be more worried. ok. now let's take a look back it's just a really i don't know awkward. the moment is kind of just maybe uncomfortable last night at the debate and this is a little exchange we saw between anderson cooper who is supposed to be moderating it was supposed to kind of be in charge and and rick perry take a look at the let me ask question governor byrd ever heard fourteenth amendment allows any anybody troll that illegal immigrants who's born here is automatically american citizen should actually which let me address the issue that should all be ready to be i'd rather you ask a question for that understand that you get to ask questions i get to answer like i want you to tell me. that's actually were strong stuff you know that is very good if you. i mean ok that is the obvious unspoken truth as to how debates work as you

ask him but he question and they get to answer however they want nobody usually vocalizes and says it out loud and then anderson cooper poor guy was just like actually. so i was glad he actually said hey i want you to actually answer my question to so many times these moderators just let people give their bullet points and get away with like one of the only instances very actually did that last night i thought he was getting you know letting them get away with a lot without asking the follow questions the one time he tried to do it he got trampled on and then even try again or die did i hear boos there he was getting booed it sounds like the audience or you i mean he really needed to get the audience really didn't like. the pretty little bit romney crowd or about it was i don't know i thought anderson did a pretty good job last night considering the crazies ok so you think it was boos not use the. words yes i still think it was.

like he told on june. the back to high school with just a means for me to play critique earlier the show ok let's move on to another story speaking of the media so we all know that fox news also now has the fox business network response to be business news element i guess are supposed to try to compete with the n.b.c. and apparently they're really miserably failing when it comes to the ratings and so fox business news actually ends of this big politics a lot of the time the exact same thing as regular fox news so they actually had to send out a memo provides everybody uses i've been asked to remind you all again that they are separate channels the more you make fox business network look like news channel the more disservice we do to ourselves i understand the temptation to imitate our sibling network in hopes of imitating its success but we cannot if we give audience a choice between f. and c. and the almost seven c. they will choose f.n.c. every time our earnings taxes jobs etc give us plenty to chew on. i can just cracks

me up with a little infighting like within fox like i know that you want to work for the for the real you know where you get the real bucks and you get to do the real crazy stories but can you just try to do this it's also if you ever see those ads for coke zero where they're mad at coca-cola coca-cola is mad at them for stealing their taste it's the same thing it's the point the whole point of fox business is that supposed to attract people like the fox brand so i don't know exactly what it says there it's kind of nice to know that the seemingly perfect fox family does have a little infighting in it but yeah it's kind of strange that that's going on i just think it's really trying to dance to remind everybody like ok obviously you know maybe they're seeing the exact same stories every single day on fox business that they are seeing on the regular fox news channel you know maybe they're sending out the exact same stories in all the e-mails and it's like on people you can't just turn on the channel steal a story and act like you came up with it yourself. interesting interesting and that's move on to a story today that well i think everybody priced out there watching news but here's

a little a little overview. q monday on the streets of ohio i'm thinking really schools are closed after believe there's a big party and a long break out of the you've got a handle on police hunting them down right now. this story is really awful in so many ways because it turns out that the owner committed suicide before he did that he left and so there were just wild animals lions tigers and bears on the loose and so they ended up having to put a lot of them down and kill them so they didn't pose a danger to humans but there is one funny thing. is that apparently there is a monkey on the loose and the sheriff or that this monkey probably has. i'm really torn on this monkey because i'm on one hand he's sympathetic right i mean he has no clothes he's been unjustly imprisoned as a preexisting condition you know the police are after me like the ninety nine percent but on the other hand i mean. all of these apocalyptic movies you know

where there's some disease that wipes out the world this is how it happens and it's twenty eight days later and planet of the apes i think outbreak was the same story yes indeed always the runaway monkey was some kind of herpes thing it's this is out of a tired guy you're freaking me out i doubt it was a lie how does he get herpes i mean i was very busy today where there is nothing funny about a runaway herpes infected but if anybody had to have herpes or if course of the monkey i looked up herpes monkey on the international because i was curious and there were these pictures of monkeys like holding their now down with like yeah i was. there also some really good tweets out there today because somebody set up a fake account and let's just look at three of them that we picked out once the tracks were about all primates no matter what john boehner is address no reason not . to worry be a. really quick before we go live show you one more ad for some reason people keep putting us in their political ads take a look. my. greatest friends. the.

stimulus plan that will save or create up to two point four zero. million jobs bureau job zero zero zero jobs were created not that morocco obama. says. it's embarrassing i think i'm wearing the exact things that he said video but you know first thing rick perry and i romney are now we got the same claim thing hey it's nice to know that everyone's watching number one i think you're good thank you brian oh i guess this means that we made it i had no idea how much you hated the field job killing stimulus until now but i mean just look at the video taken out of context or whatever yeah got a really heavy thanks you guys thanks for tuning in it's a good night show make sure to come back tomorrow and despairing from the other parts beyond meantime follow us on twitter and on facebook take everything out he took up pops last meal of the shelf and coming up next tuesday.

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