the nato ultimatum angers ethnic serbs manning makeshift barricades at a disputed border checkpoint a ban on the import of goods from serbia left kosovo and the serbs are feeling it was a direct attack on their way of life the situation degenerated when pristina attempted to take full control of the border leading to the deployment of peacekeepers to the ethnically tense region. on the brink founds in the stage of damascus in support of president assad while activists say at least seventeen of the more killed in fresh clashes the un warns the country is edging toward civil war with the death toll of over three thousand since the start of the uprising in a bid to end protest president assad has already pledged to rewrite the constitution and hold multi-party elections. and that does it for me but my colleague will be here in about thirty minutes with a complete and full look at your news but right now it's back to washington for part two of the i'll be on the show this time looking at the plight of american students trapped in spiraling loan debt don't go away.

it's time for you said it i read it take time to respond to my brilliant and engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you tube because we've got something to say i listen now first i would respond to a viewer who watched our story on conflicting reports from the pentagon and the associated press about when the united states will be leaving iraq chemical eighty three said on you tube didn't we allegedly leave iraq last year and yes i seem to remember that too it was actually a little bit over a year ago when the media made a massive spectacle of the last combat troops in iraq leaving and b c news went on for hours and hours of live coverage obama took to the airwaves to declare the end of the war yet long after the official combat mission was over thousands of americans true remained and they continue to lose their lives but i didn't have

quite the same ring as the rolling out of the take so the media just pretty much ignored it i think at this point it's pretty clear that the u.s. is fighting tooth and nail with the iraqi government to make sure that our troops remain in iraq long past the official end of the combat mission and that pesky december thirty first deadline of this year that was set years ago so all the media and the government can declare whatever milestone they want the bottom line is the american troops are still fighting and still dying in iraq and next on respond to a viewer who watched our coverage of the occupy wall street movement on monday and obama's tacit endorsement of this movement and that kotex said on you tube if obama wants to occupy wall street crowd he should go there and speak you know that's an interesting proposition but i don't exactly see it happening obama and other democrats in the capital are doing their best to try to ride the coattails of the occupy wall street movement without being too closely associated with it lest to be used against them in the future so obama democrats guess what you can't have it both ways you can try to co-opt occupy wall street movement and its energy without

any meaningful action to back it up if you support occupy wall street than put your money where your mouth is listen to what the people have to say and take some action but whether. the occupy movement would even accept obama that's a whole other story they see him as part of the problem now finally i want to respond to a viewer who watched our mainstream miss from monday james said i love the m.s.m. bashing but it's almost too easy isn't it and you know what yeah sometimes it is but just because it doesn't mean that we shouldn't criticize them for it the media in this country has a job to do and they're failing my rantings today i'll be back with more next week as usual. well the new york times predicted it earlier this year and now it's become official according to the federal reserve bank of new york americans now old more than a trillion dollars in student loans which is a truly staggering figure considering that the u.s. census bureau reported in two thousand and ten that the combined credit card debt for this country is only eight hundred eighty six billion dollars so student loans

now take the cake as the single largest source of outstanding debt in the u.s. even more than all the outstanding credit card debt so now that we know how enormous this problem is it's because step back and look at how we got here sally and twenty full time undergrad students borrowed an average of four thousand nine hundred sixty three dollars per person was the sixty three percent increase from just a decade earlier if you take inflation into account now along with the rising debt per student comes a rise in defaults on student loans which occurs when individuals over nine months behind on their payments so in two thousand and seven the default rate was six point seven percent in two thousand and nine it grew to eight point eight percent and these defaults come disproportionately from a specific type of higher education back in april i spoke with two universities and despair and about for profit colleges. just to give you an idea of how often students default on their loans after they graduate school for profit colleges keep in mind that only twelve percent of students go to these institutions that includes

the university of phoenix kaplan i.t.t. tech to verify all of these for profit institutions that are popping up all over the country only twelve percent of students go to these institutions but you also have to keep in mind that nearly fifty percent of all student loan defaults in the united states are from stated to attend these colleges are it's now that you have some of the figures let's remind you why student debt is so detrimental side of the stress that comes with handling that kind of debt it also affects the students credit score it's not only will graduates have more trouble paying off their debt but they also face a scary reality that there may not be as many jobs out there is a lot of students and. dissipated when they took on those massive loans now huge amounts of student debt often delay young adults plan of buying a home a new car even starting a family since they're now going to be sending money to the banks to pay off their debt and that's a pretty dismal outlook for those who have taken out large loans to get a degree and it looks like things are going to get better anytime soon. now since the arab spring began we've heard a lot of back and forth rhetoric hypocritical rhetoric in many ways as to which

government crackdowns were considered human rights abuse is worth going to war for think libya and where the u.s. foreign policy team decided to go easy on the critique think bahrain syria and yet it is now to take into account another element that shows just how mixed this u.s. response to the yesterday was a part of the u.s. diplomatic confirm that a fifty three million dollars weapons deal between the u.s. and bahrain had been finalized then today it was announced by the state department that after a number of u.s. senators had expressed their concern this weapons deal be put on hold until a special investigation of alleged human rights abuses in bahrain will be completed on october thirtieth and that's when they would make a final decision now this point time it's estimated that at least thirty five people have died since bahrain's protests began in february that's how we look at this postponement is a good sign that our policies are starting to shift or is it just a symbolic move to quiet critique to everybody moves on and then the weapons deal can still go through joining me from our studio in new york to scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine

scott i want to thank you for joining us tonight and i just want to ask you that same question i mean how do you see this is this a step in a positive direction that now suddenly we're interested in doing a human rights report we definitely didn't see that we made a six hundred billion dollar weapons deal with saudi arabia or do you think that the intentions aren't necessarily true here. well i think it's a mixed and complex situation and i think it reflects the tensions and the debate that's being played out inside the beltway in washington today. i think there's no question but that when we deal with bahrain it's position from the american perspective is as a military outpost this is where the fifth fleet has been centered the u.s. has had a special relationship with bahrain for some time it's also been viewed as effectively the u.s. military front lines. with iran on the other hand this is got to be squared with

the obama administration's policies concerning the arab spring and remember president obama spoken now very strongly very forthrightly about his embrace of this popular movement and the the core dilemma in bahrain is very simple that is if the people of bahrain had their way the khalifa family that has ruled that. nation dictatorially for generations would be out and the regime that might come in certain might not be so pro-american although we don't know and you know i think that you bring up some of the statements here too which is that we've seen this president criticize point fingers at iran saying that they're being hypocritical because they're supporting the arab spring but at the same time they're still propping up assad's regime in syria and yet aren't we doing kind of the exact same thing except for we're different actors. we're doing exactly the same thing i mean i think by the way i think the quote this is in the u.s.

levels of the rand is correct there hypocritical and i think by the same analysis you can call the u.s. defense arrangements with bahrain hypocritical the slight saving grace only slight i guess is the fact that obama personally has been vocally critical of the regime in their crackdown our state department has called them out not only on the people killed but also on the mock trials that were held the false convictions that were rendered the abuse of people in prisons now right now the state department has said this deals being held up to october thirtieth so that we can get the report from this independent commission in bahrain about human rights abuses. that strikes me as wrong frankly because i mean this independent commission isn't and then the bennett commission it's a government commission the government's funded and it's not frankly terribly credible i really don't particularly care whether it's going to say i think we know

the facts we know what happened we know that the government was highly abusive and all that would suggest that the u.s. government should be putting a freeze on this military aid package yeah i'm wondering why we choose to question it here in terms of needing an entire report but i want to switch gears really quickly and also speak about yemen and other place. me a lot of violence over the last couple of months between of course the leaders between president saleh has forces and those that are protesting and same thing we've heard some kind of gentle proclamations of support for a democratic movement there but ever since on while a lockie was taken out by a drone strike a couple of weeks ago it seems like suddenly the obama administration is now just showering regime also with a very positive note so do you think that all that's going to change now we're going to go back to solly side since we've only beefed up our counterterrorism operations there in the last couple weeks. yeah we really need to be studying this

more carefully i mean after he was killed there been a series of other raids in fact there was one yesterday in which. the sixteen year old son that also in the american citizen was killed and you many government sources are saying that this was another u.s. and they're suggesting that this was coordinated with the yemeni government so there clearly is a fairly high level of counterterrorism cooperation between the government and the and the obama administration that's focused on all these military actions so there's criticism but there's also close collaboration in this is collaboration with the regime that's killing hundreds in indiscriminate violence in the streets of sana and other major cities and it's a regime that i think most observers give it a few months i mean it's not viewed as having a particularly long shelf life that at this point now i'm doing a bit of

a mixed bag here and here the last time we were on our program it was just the day after the justice department had announced that apparently a terrorism plot of been foiled planned by iran using mexican drug cartels to take out the saudi ambassador to the united states i'm just wondering since we last spoke if you feel like you've seen any new bits of information that have come out that could explain the situation a little more tell us whether it is real or whether it's a fake i know that some people of iran has claimed that one of the man is a member of the army kay and that might prove a little bit problematic for so many u.s. politicians have been trying to get them off the terrorist organizations list. well i think you know i think we see statements from the u.s. government from the f.b.i. and others that present their case with a lot of certitude very forthrightly but they're still rather weak on the specific evidence to to shore it up and i guess when that when this announcement was originally made i was in london looking at the papers there and on the continent and what i saw in all the european coverage was that they repeated everything the

u.s. government said they repeated the iranian denials and they said look we have to view all of this in the context of a longstanding ongoing feud between washington the ron and we also have to take into account that there are a lot of people inside the beltway in washington d.c. looking to make out a case for war with iran and i think you know that skeptical analysis i think the skepticism is warranted frankly and i think the u.s. government's you know i think there's no doubt that there was a plot to assassinate a bear the question is to what extent this was really driven by a high level government direction and iran that that's where the evidence is weak and i guess we're just going to have to keep waiting to see if any more of the evidence while senator scott thank you so much for joining us tonight. great to be with you. also the come tonight let's charge the people of iraq for all the death and destruction that we caused their comments on the presidential candidates night

school time of war and happy hour the real world occupy wall street style class for the second time in recent weeks kalona show ends up in a political attack that activist. from the days of the manhattan project in one thousand forty two the university of california has been involved through the science of its provision and scientists

and their relationship to the university you see since day one has been in charge of researching designing and testing nuclear weapons and to some extent producing weapons every single nuclear weapon inside a is arsenal was designed by university of california. we don't warm go. to university of california who was selected as the because the army needed scientists to it's there versus the position it's. a group of protesters interrupted a university of california border regions meeting. to demand the school's severed ties with the nation's nuclear weapons program.

which bright. sun from science to question its. stance on t.v. don't. hide its time for tonight's school time award and tonight we go to michele bachmann now she made a few crazy statements during last night's debate and let's face it she was also annoying as hell she kept interrupting every candidate ad the debate host anderson cooper was about when she was referenced but anderson ok. let me know what love

is so he's going to talk to me you know but you. know a lot of things that i would think will welcome anderson your campaigns are telling us we have to it's time i'm a little slow no. manners. if you want to go you can begin to go ahead. kate is. all right so are friends over talking points memo but that clip together and well we just had to play it back to the reason that congresswoman bachmann is tonight's tool time winner she was asked a question about cutting foreign aid and in typical fashion launched into a non-related tirade about how president obama has put daylight between the u.s. and israel and then she said this. cutting back on foreign aid is one thing being reimbursed by mediations that we have liberated is another we should look to iraq and libya to reimburse us for part of what we have done to liberate these.

did you hear those cheers in the background michelle and the g.o.p. crowd think that we should charge iraq in libya for liberating them where i even begin here i mean let me remind michele the few things we invaded iraq based on faulty intelligence rigged by warhawks yes the us now the coalition forces got rid of saddam hussein who is by all measures a bad man who let's not forget used to be our friend at one point but whenever he was contained he posed no threat to the united states so now that we have that straight let's look at the price of the iraqi people have paid for their liberation best as limits put the number of iraqi civilians killed by u.s. and coalition forces above one hundred thousand now it's a low figure because exact numbers since the war began in two thousand and three are hard to find and over four million citizens have been displaced in iraq many their homes have been damaged and basic services like water and electricity have been disrupted and says the u.s. began training iraqi troops to protect their own country more than ten thousand have been killed so michele do you really still think that the iraqi people oh the u.s. money for their liberation i'm going to go on

a limb and say that they've suffered enough already thanks to u.s. forces that invaded their country under a false pretext and subsequently pushed the country into years and years more of sectarian violence so it's an i told time where is michele bachmann for her really absurd comments on charging the victims of war for their liberation by the u.s. . ok guys time for happy hour and joining me this evening is r.t. correspondent christine for sour and then capitol hill reporter for talking points memo you guys think i'm going to be. ok so we've obviously been doing a lot of occupy wall street coverage here on our show we were just down there on friday but here's something that's really hilarious the real world as in m.t.v.'s reality show the real world is apparently looking for occupy wall street cast members they put out a craigslist ad and set a part of occupy. wall street real world twenty seven zero one two. this is i just

this makes me you know this makes me worried i don't write i t v how it's now steppin like you're worried about democrats co-opting the movement he's going to buy i am totally all for this because as a former real world fan when you actually had intelligent people that were on the show to deal with like real issues in their lives it turned into this thing where all the housemates would just hook up with each other and i got very sad but when's the last time you saw intelligent people on the real world because now they just get people that are like well i don't know i was. just and you know looking for people who care about what's going on in the world hopefully they're not just like the hockey bear in mind a lot of real world people have run for office there's a congressman on the way john duffy maybe not the motion example good back in the day way back in the day i mean. maybe i'm just being optimistic but maybe this is m.t.v.'s attempt to try to get some interested people who care about what's going on in the world back on the show. all right well i hope you're right for some

reason i'm just. more skeptical i think they just want somebody who looks like they're from. you know like look like if you're saving the jersey shore that i'd be more worried. ok fair enough now let's take a look back it's just a really i don't know awkward. moment this kind of just made me uncomfortable last night at the debate and this is a little exchange that we saw between anderson cooper who's supposed to be moderating it was supposed to kind of be in charge and rick perry take a look. but let me ask you governor perry governor heard fortune the moment i was a anybody a troll that illegal immigrants who's born here is automatically american citizen should let me address the issue that i should rather rather you have to be rather. sure that i understand that you get to ask questions i get to answer like i want to and how i mean. that's actually were strong stuff you know very good issue. i mean ok that is the obvious unspoken truth as to how debates work as you asked

somebody question and they get to answer however they want nobody usually vocalizes that and says it out loud and then anderson cooper poor guy was just like actually . well i was glad he actually said hey i want you to actually answer my question to so many times these moderators just let the people give their bullet points and get away with like one of the only instances very actually did that last night i thought it was getting you know letting them get away with a lot without asking the following questions the one time we tried to do it he got trampled on and then he didn't try again did i hear boos there he was getting booed right sounds like the audience knew i didn't hear that i needed to the audience really didn't like the. pretty little bit romney crowd there in nevada is definitely was i don't know i thought anderson did a pretty good job last night considering the crazies ok so you think it was booze not use the. words yes i still think it was. like he told june. go back to high school with the rest of the. critiques

earlier the show ok let's move on to another story speaking of the media so we all know that fox news also now has the fox business network which supposed to be the business news element i guess are supposed to try to compete with the n.b.c. and apparently they're really miserably failing when it comes to the ratings and so fox business news actually ends up just being politics a lot of the time and the exact same thing of regular fox news so they actually had to send out a memo to provide everybody uses i've been asked to remind you all again that they are separate channels the more you make fox business network look like fox news channel the more disservice we do to ourselves i understand the temptation to imitate our sibling network in hopes of imitating its success but we cannot if we give the audience a choice between f. and c. and the almost evan c. they will choose f.n.c. every time earnings taxes jobs etc plenty to chew on. that kind of just cracks me up it's a little infighting like within fox like i know that you want to work for the for

the real fox so you know where you get the real bucks and you get to do the real crazy stories they can you just try to do business it's also if you ever see those ads for coke zero where they're mad at coca-cola coca-cola is mad at them for stealing their taste it's the same thing it's the point the whole point of fox business is that supposed to attract people who like the fox brand so who i don't know exactly what it says there it's kind of nice to know that seemingly perfect fox family does have a little infighting in it but yeah it's kind of strange that that's going on i just think it's really fun to get to remind everybody like ok obviously you know maybe they're seeing the exact same stories every single day on fox business that they are seeing on the regular fox news channel you know maybe they're sending out the exact same stories in all the e-mails and it's like on people you can't just turn on the channel steal a story and act like you came up with that yourself. interesting interesting let's move on to a story today that well i think everybody price out there watching the news but here's a little

a little overview. christine romans schools are closed after a grizzly bears and big party animals break out and then you got a handle on police hunting them down right now. i saw this story is really awful in so many ways because it turns out that the owner committed suicide before he did that he let them all go and so they were just wild animals lions tigers and bears on the loose and so they ended up having to put a lot of them down and then kill them so they didn't pose a danger to the humans but if there is one funny thing. is that apparently there is a monkey on the loose and the sheriff or that this monkey probably has heard i'm really torn on this monkey because on the one hand he's sympathetic right i mean he has no clothes he's been unjustly imprisoned as a preexisting condition you know the police are after me like the ninety nine percent but on the other hand i mean. one of these apocalyptic movies you know where there's some disease that wipes out the world this is how it happens and it's

only eight days later and planet of the apes i think outbreak was the same story yes indeed always the runaway monkey was some kind of herpes thing it's this is our what happened now you're freaking me out i doubt it was a lie how does he get herpes i mean i was very much. there is nothing funny about a runaway herpes infected by the baby had to have her. i looked up herpes monkey on the international because i was curious and there were these pictures of monkeys like holding their mouths down with like yeah it was pretty gross there are also some really good tweets out there today because somebody set up a fake account but let's just look at three of them we picked out once. and got all primates. i think john boehner his address no reason and don't worry be a. really quick before we go live to show you one more ad for some reason people keep. putting us in their political ads take a look. i had a feeling i had a feeling the greatest plans. had a. stimulus plan that will save or create up to two point four million jobs

a year old job zero jobs zero jobs were created and you got that iraq obama going. for that meal and i said i'm embarrassing i think i'm wearing the exact same thing he said this is a video of but you know first thing rick perry was asked was and i romney i know we got this ten cain thing when it's nice to know that everyone's watching number one i think you're good thank you why no i guess this means that we made it i had no idea how much you hated the failed job killing stimulus until now but i mean just look at the video taken out of context or whatever and i got to wrap it up is really heavy thanks you guys thanks for joining us if a night show make sure to come back tomorrow and despairing from the intensity on meantime follow us on twitter and on facebook check everything out it's a dot com slash two on the shelf and coming up next is the news.

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