greece continue to paralyze the country for the second day one person is reported dead dozens injured in clashes between rival groups of protesters. and police and breakers nato forces clash with serbs in northern kossovo control over a disputed border area which the serbs consider their territory. now with the occupy wall street movement showing no signs of abating arche talks author and blogger james counsellor who says president obama is hostage to big business well his interview is coming up next. archie is sitting down with author blogger and public speaker james howard kunstler thanks so much for joining us it's nice to be here let's get started with the occupy wall street movement we've seen many media outlets try to ridicule them marginalize this movement as something that's temporary and really an artist teenage behavior and you've essentially called this bogus in your blog let's talk

about that what is your take on occupy wall street well first of all it's hilarious that all of these scolds in the media are shaking their fingers at these young people and say oh you don't you can articulate your position you have any agenda we're living in a time in the united states when the consensus about reality is so fractured even among people who are supposed to know what's going on that we cannot construct a coherent story about what's happening to us and what we're going to do about it so to expect the young people to be able to construct a coherent narrative when nobody else in the culture is capable of doing i think a little unfair. what's more you can tell just from the placards that they're carrying around we know where their heads are at the the most significant or telling one that i saw said. i have seventy

thousand dollars college debt twelve thousand dollars in medical bills i'm twenty two where's my bailout that's a good enough reason to be out there i think so and i think what it represents is very clear it's the idea that this younger generation feels like their future has been sold out from under them but with major unions joining we've seen a much more kind of mature knowledgeable group of people come out onto the streets thousands of people do you think that's reason enough for the media and politicians to really start taking this seriously i don't know if we're capable of really interpretating what's going on politically in our country right now you know i have a pet theory that the more social and economic distress a culture goes through the greater the delusional thinking gets so that you know as the social stress rises the crazy ideas and delusional

ideas and tend to increase it's not a very. good it's not a very good set of conditions for you know arriving at a picture of reality if we compare occupy wall street to the arab spring we saw american politicians and the mainstream media plotting the arab spring yet this is somewhat of a similar beginning of some uprising along those lines isn't the old double standard a little bit too obvious yeah it's amazing it's amazing that we were cheerleading for all those people in the street in tahrir square you know anderson cooper was down there and you know all the other. usual media suspects were there cheering for the protesters in spite of the fact that there was a very good chance that the outcome of the revolution might not be so good let's put it this way you know the outstanding feature of the politics in the last three years. there's has been that nobody on wall street has

had to sit in a court room to answer for the tremendous amount of misbehavior in banking and you know this includes acts that can only be described as swindles and frauds well people have been talking about the lack of accountability ever since the financial meltdown took place three years ago but we haven't seen anybody come out onto the streets why now and do you think that this movement could end up taking america to a better place at least in terms of pushing politicians to hold someone accountable if just i do think there's a reason why we haven't seen a lot of protests the kind of things that have been happening to americans are very shameful they lose their job they lose their income they can't support their families they can't feed their families their house gets taken away from them you

know these are things that tend to be humiliating and shameful and i think that because of the way our system works where you know this is the land of freedom and liberty people blame themselves and they internalize the lot of the bad feelings and then you know they suppress it because it's shameful the combination of the shame and the anger that's all kind of mixed up with that has not really expressed itself and it may take a bit more to shove it over the edge and may take you know a bit more hardship now in one of your articles you say the hope invested in obama will end up in a museum of lost hopes along with the integrity of t.v. news i want to ask you if this were to be obama's only term as president what would he be remembered like in history well i voted for obama i think that he's probably all said and done he's probably a decent chap but it also appears that he's either a hostage to history or hostin. to certain factions in our

culture and economy like the wall street bankers. remember over a thousand people were successfully prosecuted for the misdeeds in the savings and loan scandals of the late one nine hundred eighty s. and early one nine hundred ninety s. no significant figure from the banking community has really been even sat in a courtroom and had to answer for any of their their deeds you know there have been a couple of fluky cases including bernie made off you know these are outliers these are the marginal cases but really the heart of the system hasn't been touched i think that. mr obama will be remembered as kind of a spectacular failure and i also think that this is a period of history that is comparable to the eight hundred fifty s. in the usa that was the period that preceded the civil war and it was

a period in which political institutions were failing you know an interesting thing happens in situations like this institutions lose what's called legitimacy legitimacy a reason to exist and the faith among people who have subscribed to the their beliefs that they are worth believing in and you know we're seeing a grand failure of legitimacy now in the political system in the usa and it's rather frightening you really sort of forecast every year for for the year ahead what the united states should await and in your forecast for twenty eleven you said that the number one question really is can a political economy be floating like a when he a loon of gusts of sheer fakery has that balloon pop yeah well i think that the air has been going out of it steadily but surprisingly slowly for three years and you know we're the whatever pin. in this balloon you know where

where it seems to be located at the moment is over europe with tremendous questions about the legitimacy of the european union and the banking sector more more generally but you know all of the banks in europe and north america are. interrelated and there's no chance that what happens on one continent is not going to affect another i think that there are sooner or later we're going to see similar problems in the usa the air is going out of the balloon. it's been remarkable that the fabric of this bubble was so strong but when all is said and done it's a fabric of faith and confidence that the system is meaningful and sustainable and people are beginning to doubt that that it is if we could return to the role of the media you return to to the this issue in your blog quite often you've written that

they shout down invited guest commentators pander to their demographic and dissed their rivals for ratings what role do they play these days well you know culture goes through cycles when institutions. take various forms acquire a certain legitimacy and then blow it throw it away and i've seen it happen in my lifetime where you know the the authority of the evening news on the networks was unquestioned but what's happened is that you know i think that the media has lost its confidence it's certainly in a great state of. convulsive transition we do know that younger people tend not to really get their news from t.v. at all you know they mostly get it from the internet. there are very few kind of vested legitimate authorities on the internet who are trust. good news bringers

they all appear to have an agenda of some kind or another whether it's left wing right wing capitalist socialists you know we never won it is and you know i think we have a long way to go before any of these things are sorted out and it's one of the reasons that we can't construct a coherent narrative about what's happening to us do you think the united states could face its own per store i prefer to call it a reset because i don't think it's the end of the world or the end of culture or the end of america i think it's a reset of culture but it can be very very painful and you know there will be a lot of losses involved of of property and status and you know things that were important to people that they're going to lose and so we have to somehow be prepared for this period of history that's very difficult what i think we're seeing is something that i did expect that we would mount

a campaign to sustain the unsustainable because of our tremendous psychological investments in the stuff that we've got running you know we put all of our national treasure into building freeways and building these massive suburbs and building all of the accessories and furnishings for them you know the strip malls and the malls and all the you know all the stuff that comes with them. that's where our national wealth has gone you know we're not going to just kick it into the garbage can without a struggle. but i don't think that it's going to work very well for us anyway so the final in the final analysis what i think is going to happen is america is going to be dragged kicking and screaming into a reset of daily life james howard kunstler thank you so much your time.

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this in this round. visibility trying to make sense of global economy and its own changelings us financial template the research clambering to maintain zero confidence in markets and thinking on points teasing trade imbalances recession look keep the nation's close to collapsing in some plain loan foreclosed homes people. to fail super late banks again feel level i think is us question seven and . feeling. like ultimate trust in athens greece the i.m.f. in close proximity and just programs increase the total economy. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world

has been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to corporations are today. very good news on our fall when a dictator this footage is released as colonel gadhafi dies from his injuries after being shot by government troops during his capture earlier on thursday the news comes from the city of sirte which has been freed from get off the list after two months of fighting the rule libya for nearly forty years before being ousted by revolutionary forces assisted by nato air strikes this on. the greek parliament passes a new tough austerity measures us protests on the streets of greece to you to paralyze the country for the second day one person is reported dead and dozens injured in clashes between rival groups of protesters. at peace breakers nato forces clashed with serbs in northern cost a vote for control over

a disputed border area which the serbs consider their territory. i'll be back with more of those stories in fifteen minutes but first kate is here with all the latest sports. hello and thank you for joining me for the sports roundup this thursday night and there are the headlines they were the century dimitri secured schools twice as lot of beat three won in their one hundred european fixture we have all the latest on the europa league. while home sweet home world number one yani tseng this tie for the lead up to the opening round the ladies golf tournament in his native taiwan. and raring to go favorites new zealand are taking nothing for granted while france halted open training session head of sunday's rugby world cup final showdown. and

in the europa league dimitri situ of baghdad brace to help luck out of moscow beat greek side ike athens three one and celebrate their one hundredth european match in style so joe struck first just off the restarts before converting from the spot midway through the second half to reaches a shallow did pull one back for the visitors in the dying minutes and substitute the fake i say that a team that looked deep into injury time so coached as eighty seven returns to winning ways after losing two minutes how would you handle it last time i realize but that's been his only defeat so far in all competitions since joining the railway men until one of the knobs in all belgian group leaders and legs are leading in austria and well into the last ten minutes that. night in the meantime russia strike out a lot of public anger will make a rest stop for second place to host group elite as rubin has on probably jenga has spent just seventeen top flight minutes on the pitch this season but has been a regular starter in the europa league netting the equaliser in last month's three

one win over shamrock rovers tottenham's trial revealed only on goal difference and spurs manager harry redknapp is worried the russian side. what you read over all the videos remember everything. is up to speed. to do good so it will all the noise good character check into a very good two. elsewhere greek side welcome dublin club shamrock rovers who have yet to pick up that first points of the campaign and total of twenty four matches are taking place across europe this thursday night and among other tiniest p.s.v. eindhoven our taco bell tel aviv group easily dystonic host another israeli side well to me he had entertained turkish pushing tashan also include being french johnsbury son jim our in slovakia and english championship side having a protocol to bruges group why there's a battle of the joint leaders between athletico literate and old in a.z.

scottish john celtic are in france taking on the red bull and have travelled to polish side because well. they are going to tennis now a third seed marion bartoli has beaten russian to go through to the quarterfinals of the kremlin cup here in moscow the french woman cruised to victory as she aims to please her ranking points to reach the season ending w t h championships however she needs to take the title to qualify elsewhere at united as they are not one rushing back eight seed to make it's a bulk of triumph in straight sets mexico's top seeded is all about and finally succeed spot on i couldn't say that he's taking on the spot on a head on for about all the area and over in the men's draw a local man to return to also not converted the first of his body of much points in the second set time great to outplacement friend from battle to succeed will next play a serbian top seed young coach at sara bitch who came from a second down the chance to go can you. hear on french qualifier jeremy shockey

asked if you playing alexander double fall off the next day kohlschreiber of germany had the best luxembourg's junior. golf now and despite her pre-tournament. nervous world number one yani tseng produced a strong finish to the opening round to tie free one shot lead at the first ever event on the island of taiwan the twenty two year old five time major winner did bogey the first hole but cheney bats back in style setting up this birdie in the past five nights and saying help her nerves on the back nine to count this burden on the final followed the four on the far round of sixty eight gave saying a share of the lead with misato japanese while there were seven rallied from a bogey at the sixty second date leave in mind saying that if a song of an unordered list and morgan pressel all one stride behind. now in the meantime france and host new zealand have been going through their final

preparations for the rugby world cup decide that you know auckland the sunday the all blacks trained away from the cameras but held an open session and looked into tracks to boost their defense they conceded a stinging five tries to the home nation in their thirty seven seventeen defeat in pool a however historically the french have no time to defeat the kiwis in the knockout stages having done that twice before new zealand lifted the webb ellis trophy by beating france at the inaugural toward twenty four years ago but two time finalists france are expected to put up a proper fight one star. good. with down the road. for the american fry on sunday norcross. you know it's a two horse race. and. dr james will be doing the march to one. giant feelings that we have. and it's a great night about. psyching now team katyusha have added yet another spaniards to

the palace and after three time world champion oscar for a has signed for the russian outfit next season the thirty five year old was reportedly considering retirement after lochte lost it in two thousand and eleven but instead has swapped his previous dutch to bank the two share he joins the likes of hockey rodriguez daniel my they know and i'll bet on a saw go through fellow spaniards where up is a sprint specialist and has tanked three road race world titles the last of them in two thousand and four who also won the points classification at the two thousand and eight tour de france and that he aims to do well on what could become his final world championships and the london olympics in twenty twelfth. largest ports now in case you stand i can finally say as the australian rider prepares for his first race since reclaiming his world moto g.p. crown last week my g.p. said his next pitch is up in malaysia for the season's penultimate grown prix but before getting down to business why does indulge in a different type of speeding

a car race around the supreme circuit provide the means to lighten their base ahead of some serious racing weekend however champion stoner seems to be no need of that extra practice the twenty six year old sealed his second world title in front of his home crowd on sunday and he's fully relaxed. you know this is a big way to pressure off and you know we knew in those last races if we made any mistakes that jorge was going to take a big bunch of points off you know that it was wide open so you know for us to consider you know a couple rounds to go it's always nice you know we can go and just enjoy these races. and finally russia's artistic gymnasts have been on it on their return to moscow but sports chiefs are raising concerns about the judging at the recent wall championships in tokyo where russia finished third behind china and the united states one possible for poles. only thirty three thousands of a point separated russia's viktoria come up from the american world champion jordan

weaver big tears were flowing out of despair after the judges awarded her just enough to win a silver medal in the women's all around final the three time junior olympic champion calma already had a senior world championship medal at this event in i'm even bohr's and she achieved that feat despite not being in top shape after an injury is expected to be one hundred percent at the olympics in two thousand and twelve weeks or a coma will present a real threat for the rest of the competition. we still have a lot of work to do on our basic skills and flawless execution but we did really well overall and all of us are ready for london men's team captain anton gold suits golf was quite happy with his partner's performance after all four out of seven gymnasts were experiencing a major senior event for the first time he won an individual silver medal in the vault while russia only managed a fourth place in the team event however on dawn feels that the guys were robbed of

a bronze world championship medal which. we did great and i think our performance deserved a bronze medal but the judge's decision was unfair or it will be different at the olympics where the judges will not be able to take away points from our so blatantly. russia's national team coach on duty already on in call believes the issue is not with any one particular judge it's rather as systemic problem a solution to which is way overdue if not mistakes or if their opinion is but that it's been shipped binion it's still playing the different bits and then so have to and visible difference of course will work better but i'm sure. the games will have to roll with things like coma and of course will be subjected refereeing is nothing new with artistic gymnastics clar from the only sport where certain decisions seem controversial the issue is now under

a close watch by russia's sports authorities as the country's sports minister it's not a must call promise to discuss it with the head of the international gymnastics federation . north of the world i'm certain that the i.o.c. should pay close attention to such things and we have to speak with all the nations that sponsor major sports and make sure that objective refereeing is in place for everyone involved this is a global problem and not just in gymnastics while it looks like once again we will be looking forward to not just the political achievement of the upcoming olympics in london but unfortunately also all the drama that will surround the judging in the less objective events at the games room on call for an artsy moscow. sports news for the savings i think. well. bringing you the latest in science and technology from around the world.

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