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defeat was. this is russia calls it like it sees it this is prime minister putin questioning the purpose of nato mission in libya back in april so in light of moammar gadhafi death was the killing of the libyan leader what nato really hot in mind all along. and once upon a time he was the western world's best friend from meetings with some of the world's top leaders but now an enemy so why the change of power. and the crowds just keep on growing this as more people sympathize with the occupy wall street protesters who or what is funding them. and it seems more americans are being hurt by the economy the more they're joining forces with occupy wall street allows it grows unfortunately so does america's income gap so in the end what will happen to the rich will they soon have to hide their well the golden age.
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it's thursday october twentieth five pm in washington d.c. and christine and you were watching our team more top story this afternoon colonel moammar gadhafi who ruled libya for forty two years has been captured and killed in his hometown of sirte although this picture captured from a cell phone video has been shown to people around the world with rebel fighters claiming victory is obvious death comes two months after libya's capital tripoli was taken over by those rebels and seven months after united nations security council resolution called for a cease fire and authorized military intervention to protect civilians this action was taken over by nato and that is how the involvement in libya started but certainly things began to change and then of course with today's news of the death
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of moammar gadhafi. well us now to the speech given by russian prime minister vladimir putin this wasn't denmark back in april where he essentially last out at the changed mission in libya and questioned who had a right to make that call take a listen to the coalition say destroying get their feet was not their goal then why bomb his palaces now some officials have claimed eliminating him as was in fact their goal who gave them that right to be have a fair trial returning to the no fly zone the bombings are destroying a country's entire infrastructure when the so-called civilized world uses all its military power against a small country destroying what's been created by generations i don't know if that's good well of deeper now into the history of this and how good are these relationships with this country has changed r.t. correspondent liz wahl breaks it all down for us. today's events though bring to a close the forty two year reign of this ruthless dictator the blood of have so
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many allies on his hair there is no hope for the celebration volunteers were images smothered across screens of celebration the libyan leader moammar gadhafi death. is. the middle east as a. once despised as a sponsor of world terrorism only years later will mark a doc is friendship with the western world blossoms tarnished in three nights to. take. yours senator john mccain reminisces over a time span with the libyan leader in two thousand and nine he tweeted late evening with colonel gadhafi out his ranch in libya interesting meeting with an interesting man less than a decade ago secretary of state congolese a rice announced the u.s. was restoring full diplomatic relations with libya former british prime minister tony blair had no qualms doing business with gadhafi and italian prime minister
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silvio berlusconi got hosed with him at the united nations summit in rome and here is president obama shaking hands with him at the g. eight summit in italy the libyan leader also got close with british prime minister gordon brown and from politics to pop stars icons from mariah carey to beyond say have performed for the libyan leader all the while western leaders were well aware of the atrocities committed by gadhafi it was no secret that in the mid ninety's an estimated twelve hundred political prisoners were massacred but there was no talk of intervention that there was talk of oil deals. but the relationship turned sour early this year when the nato launched military operations against libya. today of victory for the west the death of a dictator a good friends turned anime. in washington liz wahl r.t. . evidence you could say of just how much things can change but we want to talk
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more about why they changed and look beyond you know the humanitarian crisis that was sold to the world by western leaders to talk about some other reasons for this change of heart and to help me do that the always outspoken asia times correspondent they also are joining me from paulo brazil but i want to get your take on this relationship between gadhafi and western leaders over the last decade libya's oil supplies certainly did not dry up so what do you think has specifically changed to make him go from hero to villain. well oiled deals the best and also collaboration in the war on terror very short for the bunch of few of us care that feels the perfect ally but then last year in october two thousand and ten that's this chief of protocol defected to france he got in touch with french intelligence and they organized basically to starting big guys and then transferred to tripoli it's and this is how the war started it was last year in france in
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october two thousand and ten that anybody back tracked a youth said that for many years khadafi was a perfect ally for the u.s. running i've got to disagree to an extent the u.s. talks about you know human rights violations and two thousand two thousand people were massacred under gadhafi thrall and athens stopped them from meeting with him so why do you say he was the perfect ally for a time look the hypocrisy is being reverberating the galaxy today actually as long as the oil deals were there even if they were with the italians and not with the griots even if there were with the chinese but not with the americas it was ok because at least he was doing deals with western and foreign companies and as long as he was collaborating with the world terror eep who think this guy who is now at the military commander of troops up to hurricane bill how much he was captured by the americas though he was sensible and then of they were sent to libya
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and he was in libya as a person for four years and then he was liberated by saif al islam himself because said no we need some kind of reconciliation in this country so until last until october last year there was nothing wrong with cut out the remember tony blair going to the desert to you know hail the big chief seriously kissing his hand the pictures we saw a few minutes ago they tell the story the problem is for the brits and for the french specially don't forget these are the people who respected u.n. resolution one thousand. so it's three do you want it more penetration more dues and special they wanted me to to have a beach in africa this is the big picture the big strategic question the americans also wanted because they wanted that nephew come depended on african command of peace in africa libya would be perfect and they don't want what it did but it's ready to be made to leap with an independent and i think that was impossible so this is the story that you really want see over the next few days because people
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are commemorating this guy's gone remember this guy also was remember this big guy here i battled using russia while some of his second still do both demands are current so what's the next move you met you ran we saw last year with that mexican fest if you use what this is a never ending scene in terms of trying to the point of view of the pentagon the long war their denomination not mine and from the point of view of nato we want to control the body to rein it and that's it the next stop is syria i mean quite a collection there pathway of the bogeyman very very i think it's right i love it and i but i want to talk specifically about just what's gone on since march since this case was first made to the world basically but also to the americans by president obama by western leaders humanitarian mission they need our help no ground troops what do you think i mean we present earlier of prime minister
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vladimir putin saying you know who's who has given this authorization to to change the mission at when they said from the beginning we don't care about gadhafi we just want to help the people and then our son could nothing if the step down now khadafy is dead the latest reports saying a u.s. drone may have had something to do with it but was this the intentional long or did something change along with us you know was a need to split all along if we follow this story and if we fall. although what nato has been saying for the past six or seven months the only thing that they care about was to snuff out corruption then they go why don't they tell us happened from day one because look in real politic it doesn't work like that you always have a cover story cover story in this case was art's complete responsibility to protect civilians and a no fly zone over libya that's the stuff the un resolution why do prick countries
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abstain brazil russia india and china thought for because their diplomats are still hurting the old one nine seventy three at the un the conclude that bet was an open ended commitment that this could become region change on day one any did it everybody knew it did the germans also knew it would be original change they need to has been saying from the beginning we want to capture or kill cathy two days ago hillary clinton told students at university of tripoli we want to kill or capture capture can happen there was the plan all along but plan b. which was that invasion that conquered tripoli they were very lucky because the they had a pincer movement sites are strained in qatar in the u.a.e. and those fighters trained in the south western mountains to prepare mountains they have the pincer movement of the capture tripoli and the key brigade which was the campus brigade they disappeared just like iraq in two thousand and three nobody
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knows what happened to tammy's brigade because they can fight back fairly but i remember hearing you know when this all first started it's going to be weeks not months that certainly didn't turn out to be the case why get your take last question real briefly what's next for libya. civil war there's no question to woman subordinate a story see there are two civil wars that's a loyalist against central government and islam is that is the central goal ok now so if you want civil war everybody that was left out of his arrangement which means a lot of people in tripoli time there are people who will resent that the gnc once they see what kind of the regime they're going to impose which we're going to be not a democracy at all because they're already squabbling of all themselves in tripoli's been taking all their baby licious and these diseases limits are out of the picture they're going to starve the gorilla i guess that hamid karzai spoke of in tripoli
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so welcome to civil war for years to come while certainly have as we look at how things have shaken our and countries like egypt where another leader has fallen in a different kind of way and not a lot of cause for optimism right now in terms of what's really said believe me and set effects times correspondent have asked of are joining us from purcell. was an important time to take a lock at the global system in which this major historic event has happened and it implies the same system responsible for a global economy in turmoil starting to hit very close to home many people affected by it or at least made it by our are voicing those thoughts and the occupy wall street movements going on around the country well earlier i spoke to michel chossudovsky director of the center for research on globalization about this system here's his take. i know those serious economic social crisis the well it's very. simple but it's the grassroots bukas of people who are in the three who are. going
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to go i believe and it's solidarity with one another and i know that it is obvious that if we think about the progress. however. this is something quite the studying about occupy wall street and the leaders are invisible and the federal going to call. on all of us we see anonymous but we don't know really authentic sense stays with you and he. is especially the symbol of our core anish today back in but i have been you've been there and covered revolution now the fact that they. did it in the united states and the occupy wall street i think have to be examined but the probability that organized a sion. not of the age was in fact brought in the united states and was actually
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a grad. the romney and new york but michelle i mean we have had numerous protesters on our show and they all want to make clear that the reason that you don't see the leaders is because there are no leaders they say this is a leaderless movement. what if there's you know just speaking the truth that they're reading to see any leaders and because there aren't any. you know with the repeal of car color. and then it changes to be and for them to do you need to be the organization and you need a program you need a leadership which maybe eventually will the goods but we have to look at who is behind and this is a quick this initiative over nine. is the result very granting. that a single network and so on and i think as congress. was
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involved as a consulting and to see i i i could see some of the elements of this kind of trade and then when the horse process went beyond that it started brutalizing people at the grassroots now compare the movements in the movement in the breeze but the been in the pit wall street. i think is a very. creative in that people can experience that you but ultimately if we want to rely on we have to question the legitimacy of those not only in the white house and also the wall street and who comes to the support of his. dad are very comical individuals such as warren buffett i'll go of it with you but buffett and al gore. are not i'm not the social never problem there are other names and there's other names being mentioned as well michel george soros of course another one that whether or not it had anything to do
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with what we've seen so far with occupy wall street a lot of people predicting that he might step and and help with the funding do you think that that could happen. well i can speculate a little will focus is going to do in the next you know in the next few weeks what i say is that you cannot. rule against the latest and then are. both to be called in to help to to kill off the wall street make sense so what we're running out of line and i want to get in on your question you were mentioning greece and what's going on there a lot of changes i know that you summit there's been some changes in terms of a possible delay on the markle has just said in terms of making any decisions just last question real briefly what do you see as happening in the coming days and weeks in terms of greece and really the chaos that that's happening in that country right now based on their honey rather than sudoku very difficult but they sweep
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through all of analogy put me in the occupied role. as a group and they freeze the very thing well it's a song or a gathering is a speech to your base with these about rather than organize strikes which in effect risk you that is the policy agenda which is their liberalism it is the measure of which i belong and it is a book or compensation against the political process it's going to be taking. so that. again this all has a sign alex. is the very best of all this is the words of our we must look at all this with gore surprises. financially. and warren buffett said with giving the result about. a block with ninety nine to thirty cents with daily. here
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knowledge is back but is he going to change are we going to read the bank to raise the output of the if we were provided with a sovereign directed against france rolls of all these low c. speculators rich and rich the poor. and that with michelle sounded off the director of the center for research on globalization. but first efforts from greece to the united states express their anger some in this country are turning that frustration into a little bit of profit and occupy wall street as are you gonna suck each are going to find out businesses in new york as well as around the country have been catching up with the movement popularity to make an extra buck. the occupy wall street trademark on its way to becoming a successful business trip companies big and small have been swarming to the encampment like bees to honey you're. there are ninety nine percent
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effective occupied condoms helping americans fight against being screwed. over. orders that we have. to think that sort of like an evil plot to make sure these protesters don't have babies on their numbers don't grow. that's funny there are over three thousand items of occupy wall street merchandise pins t. shirts and even an occupier's hygiene kit starting at twelve bucks a pack they'll go for purchase on e bay. fresh tomato sauce floats around and pepperoni and occupies the feet so. a neighborhood special save a few steps away where you can. buy meat with the seventy five young that she's just going for a pristine altar that you wouldn't touch regular pies are twenty two dollars the occupy pieces are on sale at fifty bucks this pizza looks good but let's find
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out if they have the truth of revolution but we have a pizza here and it's cold and occupied people. up. the street i just read a piece like. a there's a little greasy but i could take the potential of change into its pole revolutions are told that if you got back at the masters it's a slight victory. here my parents because my protesters don't seem to mind that businesses are using the occupy wall street name to stir up sales are the reason why this movement is so successful is because people in business people who directly profit off the sexploitation i. also one happy with the way things are working they see everyone is just trying to keep afloat in a terrible economy percent yeah i guess we're going to be trying to make their own minds. family is going to keep your doctor turned. mom and pop
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shops are using the movement feels yeah people make it a couple of bucks here and not into compared to the goldman sachs far too few have much too much and so many have so little is exactly why the protesters are a little help from businesses spreading the word he says you sure you know r t. well let's also examine one of the issues that's really been brought to light by occupy wall street and that is the growing gap between the rich and poor in this country and as a result the protesters say of a system that is broken ours the corresponding damage to cons and to look at the system in this report. a class war seemed impossible in a country where being wealthy he's part of the national dream but it sounds march on the last week and in other parts of america protesting against the system that they claim works only for the benefit of those super rich individuals and corporations many asked whether america is facing
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a class war better the time when the rich are getting richer while the middle class is collapsing class war is being waged in a birthday unfortunately the wrong side is winning the so-called one percent of winners are the nation's top corporations which this year the economy is very slow growth at non the last may record profits but thanks to various loopholes many of these corporations pay little or nothing in taxes the corporations say they need the tax breaks to be able to invest more in to hire more america's second largest energy producers chevron is now lobbying not to let the government tax them more and to my question how many americans has chevron hired since the tax breaks were introduced in two thousand and four the c.e.o. of the company said they were up slightly a few thousand in our upstream business over the years but not significantly not significantly on our chevron payroll
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a few thousand jobs for the billions of dollars in tax stimulus that the government gave the economy same erika's largest corporations are sitting on more than three trillion dollars and not investing in the economy unemployment in the us remains over nine percent where we live in a nation where corporations can profit off a child dying at the same time with their parents into bankruptcy because they're trying to pay for this kid's medical bills. with it what does that say about our country the wall street answer to people's rage if you kill wall street will be nobody held great jobs but as one of the protesters tried to put a word objection call on all. dawn hold on it's not your show i'm talking to these people hold on i'm not talking to you. my. personal success and money have always been part of the american dream the aspiration to become rich is the cli ingredient american society and widely promoted by pop culture of those
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who took to the streets and made it clear that the situation when the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer is not their idea of the american dream in fact it can be the end of it and the beginning of a class war i'm going to check on reporting from washington. all right so let's dig a little deeper into this idea of class war some of the notion or have suggested that the war is actually being waged against the wealthy the job creators by those out of control unemployed people who have nothing better to do and start fights well earlier i spoke to richard ask our senior fellow at the campaign for america's future about this and here is part of our conversation. you know it's going to because what these guys are really doing whether they intend to or not and yes i do support them what they're really doing is pushing for changes in our economy that would actually be great for the kinds of businesses that we think of as
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a typical american success story you know the someone with a better idea that steve jobs in a garage building a new kind of computer or somebody you know because what we have now is a system where wall street has forty percent of our corporate profits and they make a lot of that money by not lending or by betting against the success of certain businesses so we have an unproductive economy based on speculation and money for money say as opposed to what we always think of as the good old american such a success story where you build america better mousetrap in the world comes to your door if you build them a better mousetrap today you probably not be able to raise the money to start your company and if you did people are so strapped because of wage nation and unemployment that they wouldn't be able to buy it so if you really believe in the american dream you also believe that what these guys are pushing is the right thing to do for the country once thought about the american dream i mean you know on one
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hand everyone likes a good rags to riches story of people pulling themselves up by their bootstraps you mentioned steve jobs that's a great example of presidential candidate herman cain likes to talk about his story but what about richard people who literally drip with wealth you know their families for generations have been wealthy in so many countries it seems that wealth is not flaunted in the way that it is here people might have money but they don't necessarily you know buy several yachts are over fancy cars now is the case here do you think richard that in this country who are wealthy are looked down upon by the masses are they hated or are they just admire it. well you know i think it's changing and i think that one of the reasons that the liberal wealthy as you call them were able to get so many tax breaks and so many other privileges over the last few decades has been because the culture kind of idolized them you know one oliver stone made his movie with gordon gekko the michael douglas character he wrote him
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as a villain any and he says he was horrified because i was on wall street then and all the guys there thought he was a hero because he didn't care about anything except making money and he thought it was great so we had about twenty years of idolizing the most flagrant and extreme wealth even if you didn't do anything to deserve it kind of the way we think about celebrities now so you know i think it's come to the point where yes everybody seems to pretty much agree that steve jobs did a very impressive thing but when it comes to say lloyd blankfein at head of goldman sachs or jamie diamond a cheapie morgan chase they're not building anything they're not hiring people they're not creating jobs or making our lives better they're getting bailed out by the government so that they can trade off other people's gains or losses and seize more and more control of the economy that's wrong and it's got to stop i think that's an interesting point that you think perhaps at one point it was ok and
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worse if people were worse if that were extremely wealthy but the things are changing and i think that if i had to take a guess one of the main reasons would have to be this growing gap about the any quality in income within this country you know i think once in a while though and we talk about this all the time the race in america getting richer the poor getting poorer whether well it is good though to see how this country compares to other countries in terms of wealth on a global scale and i want to put this graph up on that there's a quiz shows ultra high net worth individuals we're talking people with net assets above fifty million dollars out of all the countries up here the u.s. total. the dominance being home to forty two percent of the group i want to get your take richard what do you think we should glean from figures like that you know certainly we can talk and talk about how this country of the us is suffering our economy is suffering but when we see this as we still have a lot of rich people there. well we have plenty of rich people but you know the
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interesting thing is there's even maps of the inequality in this country now among rich people we talk about we are the ninety nine percent but if you take the ninety ninth percentile the that average tax form shows five hundred thousand dollars in income according to live study but if you go to the ninety nine point nine percent file it's more than four times as much and if you want beyond that i'm sure it would continue to get more and more on even now is richard esko senior fellow at the campaign for america's future are not going to do it for this hour for more on the stories we covered can go to our t.v. dot com slash usa or check out our you tube page youtube dot com slash archaea merica can follow me on twitter at franzi ilona show is up next in thirty minutes.

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