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sure you get their feet was not going to. russia call that lie could see that this is prime minister putin question the purpose of nato mission in libya back in april so in light of moammar gadhafi is death was killing the libyan leader what nato really had in mind of all. i want to point to time he was the western world's best friend for meetings with some of the world's top leaders then and so why the change of heart. and the crowds keep growing more and more people sympathize with the occupy wall street protesters but who are what is funding. and it seems the more americans are being hurt by the economy the more are joining forces with occupy wall street and as the movement grows unfortunately so does this country's income gap so in the end what will happen to the rich or they soon have to hide with their with their wealth in a golden cage. it's
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thursday october twentieth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for and you are watching our team more top story this evening colonel moammar gadhafi who ruled libya for forty two years has been killed in his hometown of sirte all day this picture captured from a cell phone video has been shown to people around the world with rebel fighters claiming victory without it because his death comes two months after libya's capital tripoli was taken over by those rebels and seven months after united nations security council resolution called for a cease fire and also authorized military interject intervention to protect civilians this action was soon taken over by nato and that's how the involvement in libya started but certainly things began to change i mean of course with today's news of gadhafi is killing i want to listen to
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a short speech now given by russian prime minister vladimir putin back and then in april in denmark where he essentially lashed out at this changed mission and questioned who had the right to make this call take a listen. coalition said destroying get their feet was not their goal then why bomb his palaces now some officials have claimed eliminating him as was in fact their goal who gave them the right to have a fair trial returning to the no fly zone to bombings or destroying a country's entire infrastructure when the so-called civilized world uses all its military power against a small country destroying what's been created by generations i don't know if that's good oh allah deeper now into this history and how get out is with a sense of with this country has changed article as well as wrong break this down for us. today's events though bring to a close the forty two year reign of this ruthless dictator the blood of of so many
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lives on his hair there is a hole for the celebration for images smothered across screens of celebration the libyan leader moammar gadhafi death. in. the middle east as a. once despised as a sponsor of world terrorism only years later will mark a doc is friendship with the western world blossoms ties between the united states . take over. senator john mccain reminisces over time spent with the libyan leader in two thousand and nine he tweeted late evening with colonel gadhafi out his ranch in libya interesting meeting with an interesting man less than a decade ago secretary of state congolese a rice announced the u.s. was restoring full diplomatic relations with libya former british prime minister tony blair had no qualms doing business with gadhafi and italian prime minister
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silvio berlusconi doctor who is here with him i do united nations summit in rome and here is president obama shaking hands with him at the g eight summit in italy the libyan leader also close with british prime minister gordon brown and from politics to pop stars icons from mariah carey to beyond say have performed for the libyan leader all the while western leaders were well aware of the atrocities being committed by gadhafi it was no secret that in the mid ninety's an estimated twelve hundred political prisoners were massacred but there was no talk of intervention that there was talk of oil deals. but the relationship turned sour early this year when the nato launched military operations against libya. it's a day of victory for the last the death of a dictator of a good friends turned out to me in washington liz wall arts. evidence you could say of just how much things can change but we want to talk more about why they changed
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and look beyond the humanitarian crisis that was sold to the world by western leaders and talk about an other reasons for a change of heart could've taken place well how do you do that earlier i spoke to the always outspoken and sometimes chorus on a pastor of our in sao paulo brazil here is what he had to say about that well oiled use the best and also collaboration in the world terror very thoughtful a bunch of few of us care that he was the first. but then last year in october two thousand and ten columbus chief or political defected to france he got in touch with french intelligence and they organized basically to cool to starting big guys here and then transfer culture this is how the war started it was last year in france it october two thousand and ten battling it out he backtracked a youth that for many years khadafi was the perfect ally for you afghani i'm god if agreed to an extent of the us tough it out you know human rights violations and two
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thousand two thousand people were massacred under gadhafi israel and that didn't stop them from meeting with han so why do you say he was the perfect ally for a time look at the hypocrisy is being reverberating in the galaxy today actually as long as the oil deals were there even if they were with italian and not with the brits you finish their work with their speech i mean we're not with the americas it was ok because at least he was doing deals with western and foreign companies and as long as he was collaborating with the war on terror including this guy who is now the military commander of troops will hatch he was captured by the americas though he was sensible and kind of they were sent to libya and he was in libya as a prisoner for four years and then he was liberated by safe all islam himself because said no when it's a going to reach a solution in disk. so until last until october last year there was nothing wrong
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with you remember tony blair going to the desert to all you know hail the big chief so grimace going to kissing his hand the pictures we saw a few minutes ago they tell the story the problem is for the brits and for the french specially don't forget these are typical who rejected un resolution one thousand seven hundred three they wanted more penetration more jews and specially wanted we need to look to have a beach enormous in africa this is the big picture the big strategic question the americas also wanted it because they wanted that africom depended on african command of peace in africa libya would be perfect and they don't want what it did but it's rare to be a nato league with an independent that after there was impossible so this is the story that you really want to see over the next few days because people are commemorating this guy's gone remember this guy also was gone remember this is big guy here i've got all these in russian was not so it is episode the boat events are
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gone so was the next book you meant you ran we saw last year with that the mexican fest if you use work this is a never ending scene in terms of trying to the point of view of the pentagon the long war their denomination not like and from the point of view of nato we want to control the media to radio and that's it the next stop is syria i mean quite a collection at the bogeyman very very large. enterprise i love it and i want to ask is it actually about on just what's going on athens march tenth and this case was first made to the world basically by authors of the americans by president obama and by western leaders humanitarian mission they need our help no ground troops what do you think i mean we present marilee or our prime minister vladimir putin saying you know who was who was given as authorization to change the. mission with a second beginning we don't care about gadhafi we just want to help the people and
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now the son could have a need for step down now gadhafi that the latest reports saying a u.s. drone may have happened today where i was this man has no longer or did something change along with us it was a needle's plane all alone if we follow this story if we follow what nato has been saying for the past six or seven months deal the scene that they care about was to snuff out combat then they go light and they tell us that then from day one because look in rio politic it doesn't work like that you always have a cover story cover story in this case was art's complete responsibility to protect civilians and north lights all over libya that's the stuff you went resolution why the bric countries abstain brazil russia india and china to talk for because they're diplomats still hurting the one hundred seventy three at the u.n. they concluded that was an open ended commitment that this could become region
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change all they want any did it every body knew it the germans also knew it would be regime change a little has been saying from the beginning we want to capture or kill gadhafi two days ago hillary clinton told students at university of tripoli we want to kill or capture that there was the plan along but plan b. which was that invasion that conquered tripoli they were very lucky because the they had a pincer movement fighter strained in qatar in the u.a.e. and those fighters trained in the southwestern mountains the very very mountains they had the pincer movement of the capture of tripoli and the key brigade which was the can is brigade they disappeared just like iraq in two thousand and three nobody knows what happened to come his brigade because they didn't fight back. i remember hearing you know when it's our first started going to be we not month have
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certainly been turned out of it in case i want to get your take last question real briefly what's next for libya. civil war there's no question. one month of war wrote a story saying there will be two civil wars gaddafi loyalists against central government and islam is that is the central government ok now it's going to be one civil war if everybody there was left out of his arrangement which means a lot of people in tripoli turn are. people who will resent the t.n.c. once they see what kind of the regime they're going to impose which we're going to be not a democracy in iraq because they already scrabbling all themselves in tripoli speaking or they're both militias and this is a mystery out of the picture they're going to start the guerrilla against the kurds i spoke with tripoli so welcome to civil war for years to come while certainly as we look at how things are shaking our in countries like egypt where another leader has fallen in a different highway and not a lot of cause for optimism right now in terms of sets your belief be uncertain
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fact it is time correspondent have to ask of our joining us from propeller procedure. of course is an important time to take a look at the global system in which this needs are historic events has happened it is in some ways the same system that's responsible for the global economy in turmoil starting to hit very close to home many people here in the united states affected by or at least made angry by our voicing those thoughts in occupy wall street movements going on all around the country earlier i spoke to michelle to us and ask interactor of the center for research on vocalization about this system here's his take. we are in those various economic social crisis very. polluted brussels two thirds of people in the street who. committed i believe the solidarity with one another and i know that this is impoverished but it may be about the congressman. who has
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a. big why now being about occupy wall street is that the leaders are invisible and several organizations involved. along with the b.c. anonymous but we don't know who they offer and the ten pages which you see. is. the symbol of our core additionally back and that is being you've been very current revolution now the fact that in. the united states and the occupy wall street i think you have to be examined rather relieved of that organization. even modest what in fact was in the united states and was actually addressing the rally in new york but michel i mean we have had numerous protesters on our show and they all want to make clear that the reason that you don't see the
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leaders is because there are no leaders they say this is a leaderless movement. what if there's you know just speaking the truth that the reason you don't see any leaders and because there aren't any. you know where the repeal of caracalla. and this is change is to be implemented you need you need an organization you need a program you need a leadership which the baby eventually go to budge but we have to look at who is behind. this initiative or the nine. it was the result or very poor planning or both. that christian minutes were gone and i think that that can go on in other words our course broader and broader as a consulting and busy i. i could see some of the elements of that of the strategy and when but when the whole sauces went awry and then it started
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globalizing people at the grassroots now compare that to the movement in three bourbons in the last thing. i think is a very you know creative group that people can express their view but ultimately if we want to root out the pond we have to question the legitimacy of those not going to wind down and all through the rotary and who comes to the support of this helping things that are very powerful individuals such as warren buffett al gore that sit well with you but ron buffett and i'll go on and on but. those are not the solution there the problem there are other names and there's other names being mentioned as well michel george soros of course another one that whether or not he had anything to do with what we've seen so far with occupy wall street a lot of people predicting that he might step and and help with the funding do you think that that could happen. well like oh thank you there you go along little
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thought of this. you know in the next few weeks what i say is that you cannot waste a rule against this and then are. all three because it helped to kill off the wall street says you know what we're running out of line and i want to get in one more question you were mentioning greece and what's going on there a lot of changes i know the e.u. summit there's been some changes in terms of a possible de lay on all of merkel has just said in terms of making any decisions just last question real briefly what do you see as happening in the coming days and weeks in terms of greece and really the chaos that that's happening in that country right now based on their honey we're going to go work with very difficult but maybe through all analyses with free market pride or people who are the group in a recessionary well it's a song or a gathering is
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a new york and basis but it is all around isn't organized right which refuses to follow the agenda with just their liberalism in. the maze with which i'm for or go on and it is brought to the good political bar which. raises a thing. that but again this all has it's my knowledge. is very typical how this is stories across we must look at all the core rises. financial or. and water bucket that weakening them and he talked about you know the ninety nine. and he had knowledge of that but is the corporate change always going through we will thank you later. if we've gone through the we have to take sovereignty measure the director of. france rolls of all these low
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three speculators rich and rich. that was michel chossudovsky director of the center for research on globalization. so i asked protesters from greece to the united states express their anger some in the u.s. are turning that frustration into a lot of profit and occupy wall street as artie's honest our future going to find out business in new york as well as around the country have been catching up with the movement's popularity to try to make an extra buck. the occupy wall street trademark on its way to becoming a successful business trip companies big and small have been swarming to the encampment like bees to honey feel. there are ninety nine percent effective occupy condoms helping americans fight against being screwed you know we've got over the great orders. we have. you think that sort of
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like an evil plot to make sure these protesters don't have babies in their numbers don't grow. that's a little funny there are over three thousand items of occupy wall street merchandise pains t. shirts and even an occupier's hygiene kit starting at twelve bucks a pack they will do for purchase on e bay. ladle sauce floats around and pepperoni and occupied the feet so. a neighborhood special save a few steps away from where the camp is set up by me with the money. the young girl she's just with their first impulse and i think it was a regular pies are twenty two dollars the occupied pieces are on sale at fifteen bucks this pizza looks good but let's find out if you have to take a revolution that we have a pizza in here and it's cold and occupied people. like
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to i just read a piece that. appears a little greasy but i can trace the potential of change into it's called revolutions are called. if you got it back at the masters it's a slight victory to pure progressives because my protesters don't seem to mind that businesses are using the occupy wall street name to stir up sales part of the reason why this movement is so successful is because people in business and people who feel radically profit off the sexploitation i. also one happy with the way things are working they see everyone is just trying to keep afloat in a terrible economy this is percent yeah i guess we're going to be trying to make their own money and so you just don't need more you're going to keep your record turned. mom and pop shops are usually in the fields while yeah people making a couple of bucks here it is not into compared to the goldman sachs far too few
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have much too much and so many have so little is exactly why the protesters are a little help from businesses spreading the word he's their future you know he. could the occupy wall street trademark be on its way to becoming a successful business trick companies big and small have been flocking to mean can't like bees to honey. there are condoms helping americans fight as we just saw in in last year's piece there and lots going on but i do want to examine one of these issues that so many occupy wall street movement that so many people in the occupy wall street movement have taken to the streets to fight against and that is the growing gap between the rich and poor in this country it is a result the protesters say of a broken system now depending on where you get your news you might hear some different interpretations of what this movement is about for example some
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conservative networks imply that the occupy wall street protesters are nothing but a bunch of communists well earlier i spoke to richard ascot senior fellow at the campaign for america's future he is a supporter of the movement so i asked him for his take on the portrayal of the protestors here's what he had to say. you know it's funny because what these guys are really doing whether they intend to or not and yes i do support them what they're really doing is pushing for changes in our economy that would actually be great for the kinds of businesses that we think of as the typical american success story you know the someone with a better idea that steve jobs in a garage building a new kind of computer or something you know because what we have now is a system where wall street has forty percent of our corporate profits and they make a lot of that money by not lending or by betting against the success of certain businesses so we have an unproductive a con me based on speculation and money for money's sake as opposed to what we
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always think of as the good old american such a success story where you build a better mousetrap in the world comes to your door if you built a better mousetrap today you'd probably not be able to raise the money to start your company and if you did people are so strapped because of wage stagnation and unemployment that they wouldn't be able to buy it so if you really believe in the american dream you also believe that what these guys are pushing is the right thing to do for the country let's talk about the american dream i mean you know on one hand everyone likes a good rags to riches story of people pulling themselves up by their bootstraps you mentioned steve jobs that's a great example of presidential candidate herman cain likes to talk about his story but what about richer people who literally drip with wealth you know their families for generations have been wealthy in so many countries it seems that wealth is not flaunted in the way that it is here people might have money but they don't
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necessarily you know buy several yachts our fancy cars not always the case here do you think richard that in this country who are wealthy are looks down upon by the masses are they hated or are they just mired. well you know i think it's changing and i think that one of the reasons that the wealthy as you call them were able to get so many tax breaks and so many other privileges over the last few decades has been because the culture kind of idolized them you know one oliver stone made his movie with gordon gekko the michael douglas character he wrote him as a villain any and he says he was horrified because i was on wall street then and all of the guys there thought he was a hero because he didn't care about anything except making money and they thought it was great so we had about twenty years of idolizing the most flagrant extreme well even if you didn't do anything to deserve it kind of the way we think about celebrities now so you know i think it's come to the point where yes everybody
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seems to pretty much agree that steve jobs did a very impressive thing but when it comes to let's say lloyd blankfein head of goldman sachs or jamie diamond at j.p. morgan chase they're not building anything they're not hiring people they're not creating jobs or making our lives better they're getting bailed out by the government so that they can trade off other people's gains or losses and seize more and more control of the economy that's wrong and it's got to stop i think that's the interesting point that you think perhaps at one point it was ok and worse if people were worse if they were extremely wealthy but the things are changing and i think that if i had taken gas one of the main reasons would have to be this growing gap about the inequality of incomes in this country you know i think once in a while though and we talk about it all the time the rates in america getting richer the poor are getting poorer once in a while it is good to see how this country compares to other countries in terms of
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wealth on a global scale so i want to put this graph up this basically shows ultra high net worth individuals we're talking people with net assets of fifteen million dollars i don't know all the countries up here the u.s. taught. dominates being home to forty two percent of the group i want to get your take richard what do you think we should glean from figures like you know certainly we can talk and talk about how this country how the u.s. is suffering our economy is suffering but when we see this we still have a lot of rich people there. well we have plenty of rich people but you know the interesting thing is there is even massive inequality in this country now among rich people we talk about we are the ninety nine percent but if you take the ninety ninth percentile though that average tax form shows five hundred thousand dollars in income according to the study but if you go to the ninety nine point nine percent tile it's more than four times as much and if you went beyond that i'm sure
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it would continue to get more and more on even you know the top four hundred families in wealth in this country in one thousand nine hundred five they paid thirty percent of their income in taxes which is much too low and at last report they paid sixteen percent so we're allowing this massive accumulation of extreme wealth and you know we're not doing anything about it while there's an enormous need and norma's unemployment so people i wonder if. people are wondering that i didn't know that but it's funny people do wonder why the department of treasury seems to be running dry and i guess that could be one of the reasons i want to play something for you or it's or this is something that sank you were host of the young turks that occupy wall street he was down there gave a speech let's play a little bit of it and we can talk about it. this boy. we need leaders.
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we want to meet. who won't play. ball it's. all right thank you down there using of course that human microphone saying that this country needs an amendment to declare that corporations are not people do you think that this is the gist of the movement. well i don't think it's the gist of the movement but i think it's a great idea i think it's one aspect of the movement and i think it reflects the movement's fundamental concerns i mean first of all jenks a friend of my he's a great guy but he's absolutely right look the movement is a reaction to the fact that the wealthy and corporations have taken over our political process and his analysis of that is absolutely right and one of the things that should come out of the movement is absolutely what's he says should come out of it which is no more massive contributions from corporations no more big
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contributions from the wealthy get private money out of the election process public financing corporations aren't people because if they were people they'd be psychopaths so let's root so i'm all for what you're doing and his wolf pack i think he calls it a c. i support it i think it's a great idea and it's certainly part of what this movement is all about thirty i know one branch of government that would disagree with you that is the supreme court of course giving a green light to citizens united going to be hard to get that overturns we do want to thank you for joining us richard asco senior fellow at the campaign for america's future. and that is going to do it for now but for more on the stories we covered go to r t v dot com slash usa or youtube dot com slash r g america and follow me on twitter i'm at frenzy have a great night.

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